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They might (emphasis on might), but it won't be for long. An Iranian nuke is a hard no-no for Israel, and unlike the the usual US leadership won't hesitate to launch a full-scale attack to wipe out any concerted effort at making one.
I'm not so sure they wouldn't hesitate. The problem with that is that if they act well before any nuke is created, they enter a range of doubt on whether a nuke could have, or would have, been created - meaning they were the unmitigated aggressor in what would assuredly be a nasty, bloody war. That is not a good idea for a country that wants to keep the US and global elites very friendly to it for its continued existence. Overlooking Palestinian fuckery is easy compared to overlooking an invasion.

If they wait until a nuke is 'probable', then they run the serious risk that their intel is a bit off or delayed, and find out that the nuke is in fact operational, and just got chucked as a retaliation against the invasion. And the world would be hard pressed to blame Iran for doing so if Israeli troops are in their country to try and destroy them. Narratives would be spun to try and cover it up for sure, but even then the damage is done, y'all ate a nuke.

Its a delicate line to walk, because if you get it wrong on either side a lot of fucking people die when it could have been avoided.
 
This shit scares me because the current Chateau Generals in the Pentagon right now are the exact same types who 20 years ago were rigging the Millennium Challenge 2002 so they could claim the USA was ready to face any Middle East war, and of course Afghanistan.
 
They might (emphasis on might), but it won't be for long. An Iranian nuke is a hard no-no for Israel, and unlike the the usual US leadership won't hesitate to launch a full-scale attack to wipe out any concerted effort at making one.
Israel has been hesitating for the past 15 years. The simple fact is that Israel doesn't have the bunker busters needed to do damage to the underground nuclear bunkers, they don't have the planes needed to deliver those bombs, and they don't have the tankers that are needed to get the planes back. Add in the fact that Hezbollah has about 50k guided missiles given to them by Iran that they will launch once Iran is attacked, Syria will likely attack, and the Gaza/west bank fronts will have constant attacks. Add in the fact that Israeli Arabs seem to be willing to help the enemy in the case of the Lod uprising in the last Gaza war and it's a lose lose situation. Even if Israel managed to carry out a perfect strike, nothing stops Iran from trying again in a few years.

This assumes that the us and eu is anti Iran nuke. The way that they are acting now strongly suggests they consider Iran having a nuke not to be a threat.
 
This assumes that the us and eu is anti Iran nuke. The way that they are acting now strongly suggests they consider Iran having a nuke not to be a threat.
Because it's not. Welcome to MAD, Schlomo. Adjust your expectations and tactics accordingly. Or don't. It seems our leadership has gone pants on head retarded, so what's one more Armageddon hanging over us, eh? Either way, it's going to be nice once mutual assured destruction keeps the both of you guys from throwing monkey wrenches at each other all over the rest of the world's geopolitics with wild abandon because God said this sandbox filled with durka-durkas was yours.
 
Because it's not. Welcome to MAD, Schlomo. Adjust your expectations and tactics accordingly. Or don't. It seems our leadership has gone pants on head retarded, so what's one more Armageddon hanging over us, eh? Either way, it's going to be nice once mutual assured destruction keeps the both of you guys from throwing monkey wrenches at each other all over the rest of the world's geopolitics with wild abandon because God said this sandbox filled with durka-durkas was yours.
Mad doesn't work when the enemy are literally crazed and yearn to be shahids. Forgot to mention that Iran was preparing lists of disapora Jewish communities to attack if there was an attack and there's no doubt that they would actually do it since Iran has bombed a synagogue back in the 80s. They've also attempted to murder Israelis in Turkey. Point being that these are not rational people and they would love to attack Israel even if they die in the process. If they get the bomb, the only thing stopping them is a fatwa forbidding the use of nuclear weapons by the supreme leader of Iran. However that fatwa also forbids researching and developing nuclear weapons so it's already been broken. The god thing is not accurate but whatever.
 
Mad doesn't work when the enemy are literally crazed and yearn to be shahids.
Don't fucking care, not my problem.
Forgot to mention that Iran was preparing lists of disapora Jewish communities to attack if there was an attack and there's no doubt that they would actually do it since Iran has bombed a synagogue back in the 80s. They've also attempted to murder Israelis in Turkey. Point being that these are not rational people and they would love to attack Israel even if they die in the process.
You mean they do attacks and run ops in neutral third party countries and target civilian populations? Oh man, how unfair, I'm absolutely sure this stupidity and barbarity isn't a mutual practice.
If they get the bomb, the only thing stopping them is a fatwa forbidding the use of nuclear weapons by the supreme leader of Iran. However that fatwa also forbids researching and developing nuclear weapons so it's already been broken.
No, Schlomo, what will keep them from using nuclear weapons is the fact they'd be turned into a glowing wasteland in response, which, contrary to what you might think, even theocracies generally assume is a bad outcome.
The god thing is not accurate but whatever.
Sure, the place to settle your people and build your nation wasn't in the Pale of Settlement, where you already were in large numbers, nor in relatively empty land offered to you in Birobidzhan or Madagascar, but instead in the place that just so happened to have all the holiest sites for the Jewish religion and was declared yours in perpetua by YHWH in your religious texts. That it was already densely populated with other people for hundreds of years and only contained a handful of Old Yishuv didn't matter. That the then majority population also had some of its most sacred sites there and would get pissy about losing control of them didn't matter.

Yup, choosing that place for Zion had zero non-rational justifications. Sure.
 
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We know they left that all behind on purpose though. The manner of the pullout wasn't a mistake.

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Trying to invade Iran would make Afghanistan and Iraq look like a walk in the park. I wonder how absurdly out of reality the Pentagon niggers are, if they try and actually go into Iran at a moment like this it... I don't even have a metaphor it's just too retarded.
Ideally, Iraq would have made for a good staging post for such an invasion. It'd still be a tough slog given Iran's size, but being able to constantly threaten their borders is what Iraq offered. Now, an Israeli-US invasion has to go through many potentially hostile nations that would leave Israel itself open, which I doubt their population is willing to tolerate.

Oh well, should have kept Saddam in power then.
 
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Call me stupid, but doesn't the US wage war as an excuse to make more weapons? Why would they need the old weapons?
 
Call me stupid, but doesn't the US wage war as an excuse to make more weapons? Why would they need the old weapons?
Leaving behind weapons after you seized their land and drained their resources is a BAD idea. That's like pissing off your roommate and leaving your bedroom unattended.
 
Leaving behind weapons after you seized their land and drained their resources is a BAD idea. That's like pissing off your roommate and leaving your bedroom unattended.
So what are you saying? That the Taliban will use these weapons to go after American interests? The only thing I can think of is to sell that shit to Russia in their fight against Ukraine, or onto the black market to restart the terror wave of the 2010s in Europe.

Hell, I’m willing to bet that there’s some nationalists that’d LOVE to go after work governments and migrants. 4Chan would be proud.
 
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