Ukrainian Defensive War against the Russian Invasion - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[DumbDude43]

My understanding of the vatnik worldview is that Poland and Slovakia are not third parties but part of the American empire. All NATO countries, and indeed many outside of NATO, are American vassals which take orders from Washington. Ukraine is also an American colony.

I don't know what our blessed Argentine Pope believes, but when people talk about the American empire, it usually means more than just the 50 states and some military bases.

american empire usually refers to
>america
>anglosphere (uk, can, aus, nz)
>NATO
>non nato allies (japan, south korea, arguably taiwan)

 

[Racist Trash]

I don't know what our blessed Argentine Pope believes, but when people talk about the American empire,

Probably still has the ache that America didn't back them in the invasion of the Falklands.

 

[Corette]

Typical of that Communist bastard. He's one of the plants the Soviets put in the Church, I just know it.

Thanks Obama.

 

[Agamemnon Busmalis]

Thanks Obama.

I have to admit he's exactly the kind of Pope I'd expect Obama to pick.

 

[Pork Packer]

Probably still has the ache that America didn't back them in the invasion of the Falklands.

South America in general is a nexus of turbo-autist to downright schizo leftist "thought" and has been for near a century now, and indeed the same can be said for turbo-autist to downright schizo far right "thought"

Maybe its a result of absorbing all the shittiest and sketchiest euro radicals who were not allowed into burgerland over the centuries and then becoming the focus for soviet/US glowie shit in the cold war, maybe its the inevitable result of the terminally fucking retarded way Spain ran its colonies back in the day and how these colonies subsequently ran themselves, maybe its the fucking humidity.

Either way the end result was a continent where every batshit scumfuck psycho and gibberfuck lunatic were able to reliably accrue a cadre of mindless followers who would throw their support behind anything that went against the shitty status quo alongside a fuckload of covert foreign support and all the resource money sloshing around that they could shanghai, and to top it all off they would have all the jungles/mountains a guerilla movement could wish for

 

[AgendaPoster]

I have to admit he's exactly the kind of Pope I'd expect Obama to pick.

We need proper Polish Popes to make a retvrn

 

[teriyakiburns]

Maybe its a result of absorbing all the shittiest and sketchiest euro radicals who were not allowed into burgerland over the centuries and then becoming the focus for soviet/US glowie shit in the cold war

A lot of it is the result of the Monroe Doctrine. Monroe wanted to establish a US hegemon over the entirety of the American continents, which created a de-factor barrier between European nations and their newly-independent colonies in the south. Without that, it's possible that links between the south and Europe (particularly Spain) would have been much closer and much less fraught, which would have reduced the ability for the US to overthrow unfavourable regimes, but would also likely have reduced the chances of extremist communist or hard-right regimes emerging in the first place.

Maybe.

 

[draggs]

A lot of it is the result of the Monroe Doctrine. Monroe wanted to establish a US hegemon over the entirety of the American continents, which created a de-factor barrier between European nations and their newly-independent colonies in the south. Without that, it's possible that links between the south and Europe (particularly Spain) would have been much closer and much less fraught, which would have reduced the ability for the US to overthrow unfavourable regimes, but would also likely have reduced the chances of extremist communist or hard-right regimes emerging in the first place.

Maybe.

The links between south of the border and Spain were quite close and the US did not have the power to enforce the Monroe Doctrine until after the American civil war

The real reason is that the Spanish created a very strictly class divided society in all these countries which created ripe conditions for communist agitprop

 

[Snekposter]

My understanding of the vatnik worldview is that Poland and Slovakia are not third parties but part of the American empire. All NATO countries, and indeed many outside of NATO, are American vassals which take orders from Washington. Ukraine is also an American colony.

I don't know what our blessed Argentine Pope believes, but when people talk about the American empire, it usually means more than just the 50 states and some military bases.

If that's the case the Holy Roman Empire was less of a clusterfuck than the American Empire.

 

[Fait Accompli]

is this accurate? There's nothing on the Pridnestrovi-Ukraine border.

Its very innacurate
But at the same time, probably one of the most accurate ones

Most information comes from the Ukrainian deployments, thats why the Russian side looks sparse and the Ukrainian one looks dense ( which pro-russians like to spin despite the fact that its against all logic )
Also, alot of the times only elements of certain brigades are presented as active in Bakhmut, so its misleading

 

[MG-34]

Based Russians burn down a RuAF Su-27.

 

[DumbDude43]

Based Russians burn down a RuAF Su-27.
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will that even do anything? i guess the tire on the wheel will be ruined, but the plane itself won't catch fire from a bit of burning petrol like that i think

 

[GatorAids]

Tactical pause in Bakhmut!

"GUYS GUYS TIMEOUT GUYS I THINK I SPRAINED MY ANKLE GUYS! TIMEOUT ON THE WAR GUYS! OWIE OWIE IT REAWWY HUWTS"

 

[draggs]

will that even do anything? i guess the tire on the wheel will be ruined, but the plane itself won't catch fire from a bit of burning petrol like that i think

Yes, if the fire keeps burning it will damage the plane bigly. Lots of stuff in that plane that doesn't take well to extended period of high temperatures

 

[MG-34]

will that even do anything? i guess the tire on the wheel will be ruined, but the plane itself won't catch fire from a bit of burning petrol like that i think

Aircraft are some of the most fragile machines the military uses. There's a reason why aircraft hangers have elaborate fire suppression systems not found elsewhere. Not even in ammo bunkers. If you look at parked military airplanes outdoors they even keep a mandatory idiot proof large wheeled fire extinguisher just in case.

 

[Ghostse]

My understanding of the vatnik worldview is that Poland and Slovakia are not third parties but part of the American empire.

Excuse me?
They are part of the Glorious Russian Empire, comrade, in a state of temporary rebellion fomented by the decadent western pig-dogs. Their puppet leaders are just tools of Amerikkkan Imperialism and very soon we will over throw them and get things back on track by making their languags illegal and deporting their best and brightest to siberia.

A lot of it is the result of the Monroe Doctrine. Monroe wanted to establish a US hegemon over the entirety of the American continents, which created a de-factor barrier between European nations and their newly-independent colonies in the south. Without that, it's possible that links between the south and Europe (particularly Spain) would have been much closer and much less fraught, which would have reduced the ability for the US to overthrow unfavourable regimes, but would also likely have reduced the chances of extremist communist or hard-right regimes emerging in the first place.

Maybe.

Monroe wanted Europe and European wars to fuck off because Napoleon's dabbing on the rest of Europe was fucking with trade as both France and England tried to deny the other access to the resources of their New World colonies. The US couldn't do shit at the time, and not many colonies were independent - he was more about creating a bulwark of american states that would prevent the need for any of them to ally with European powers.

The links between south of the border and Spain were quite close and the US did not have the power to enforce the Monroe Doctrine until after the American civil war

The real reason is that the Spanish created a very strictly class divided society in all these countries which created ripe conditions for communist agitprop

The other issue is that Latin America doesn't allow for "proper war" to happen. Corrupt governments are not toppled from without, the only real threats are within, so as long as you can oppress your population your shitty government will lumber along. European governments half as incompetent as the ones in 1800's Latin america would have be toppled by neighbors.

retvrn

 

[Corette]

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[Fait Accompli]

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Reminds me of the early mission in MW2 where u infiltrate and sabotage russian runways
We need to ship a bunch of PS3 consoles with MW2 attached ( and a ACR equipped with a silencer ) to anti-government forces in Russia, the entirety of their attack aircrafts in Siberia would be turned to ash within days
Lovely investment

 

[Trig.Point]

I wanted to post the video below because the BMP 1, is still the mainstay of both the Russian and Ukrainian army.

This video is from the Australian Armor museum who do far better content than the Tank Museum in Bovington, because they actually show the workings and interior of a vehicle.

It show just how bizarre a vehicle it is.

 

[MG-34]

I wanted to post the video below because the BMP 1, is still the mainstay of both the Russian and Ukrainian army.

This video is from the Australian Armor museum who do far better content than the Tank Museum in Bovington, because they actually show the workings and interior of a vehicle.

It show just how bizarre a vehicle it is.

The fuel doors always got me. Slavaboos would claim they would never be loaded with fuel during combat, as if the enemy will offer fair warning before an ambush to ensure the doors are properly drained.