Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[Rubick]

Is there actually a decocking effort or is this Hohol cope like the OMG WAGNAR ARE BEEFING WITH PUTIN AND HAVE NO AMMO!!!

Not 100% sure. They are moving an amassing a force at a rate. So something big is going to happen. Plus Bakhmut is the center of gravity now. So I expect that to be the goal. While operational realities still somewhat allow it.
Its no in their best interest to wait for mobilized Russian manpower to trickle down. And NATO wants results.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

There's literally no reason not to archive. It's practically 0 effort, allows one to view a source even if it's been subsequently purged, and in the case of many sources: Denies them a click.

Why is this a hill YOU'RE willing to die on? Stop making me side with a J*nny.

Stop engaging him, you won't be able to explain anything to him, trust me, I tried repeatedly.

 

[smartypants302]

Decent stuff, even if bit generic for my liking. Wars have tendencies to push creativity in other areas than just technical field and music tends to come second since it's one of best ways to boost morale. It's always interesting to see how artists compose using musical styles that are in vogue during conflicts. Personally I found Врата Овертона pretty good, Сдавайся is how I found the group/person. Yandex Music is good place to scour for this stuff.

Here is some more, Chechen song about the special operation, https://youtu.be/fkSAxFP1YzI, Russian patriotic song https://youtu.be/9gvx7apeuAQ, modern version of Arise Ye Russian people, https://youtu.be/vmdm5LJEJFI, Rock popish song https://youtu.be/FwurY-PqMzU, this song folk is not related it to war but it sweet and people need to embrace being a bee and enjoy beauty (Orthodox parable). https://youtu.be/_ETBmGSjg2w

 

[Useful_Mistake]

UN High Commissioner for Human Right report determines that instead of killing garbazilion civilians, Russia only killed 441 (and suspiciously the report looks at only a hundred):

Key note, it only looked at 24 February to 6 April 2022:


One of the worst offenses the report found was that Russian murders were sexist due to gender roles. They are especially annoyed that women were spared:

List of recommendations:


Report:

https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/2022-12/2022-12-07-OHCHR-Thematic-Report-Killings-EN.pdf

Apparently this was made in December, but I only now noticed it.

 

[make_it_so]

That is very clearly not a Stryker. Like it's not even close. That's some sort of truck or light vehicle.

Looks kind of like an ATF Dingo.

 

[Fait Accompli]

Im usually in the other ecochamber, but i thought this was interesting for y'all

Kyrkan höjer beredskapen – här planeras för krigsgravar i Karlskrona

Svenska kyrkan ser nu över sin kapacitet att begrava krigsoffer om kriget kommer. På griftegården i Augerum finns redan en tilltänkt yta – som i en krissituation skulle kunna rymma flera tusen gravar. – Det bör räcka till huvuddelen av Blekinges befolkning, säger Berton Nyström, tf...

www.svt.se

( Hopefully y'all could translate it to english somehow )

Basically, the last few days news in Sweden has been dominated by quite drastic war articles
Sweden has acted on a very old cold war policy, forcing several institutions ( in this case, the church ) for massive casualties. The swedish church has been ordered to prepare a sudden loss of life and burial for this loss of life, about 500k ( 5% of the swedish population )

I dont see how this is necessary, a regular conflict wont cause these kinds of casualties. It sounds like the Swedish government ( that is a pending NATO-member ) are preparing for some sort of massive attack, terrorist dirty bomb, limited nuclear attack etc. Very speculative, but Sweden may have helped in the bombing of nordstream and are now super scared of retalition? Keep in mind, Sweden has for decades been very slow and passive in enacting and publicizing these sort of policies. They are known for reacting, not acting

Thoughts? I thought this could cause some discussion as this is the only case ive seen of a western nation not in direct conflict making these drastic preparations in the wake of a possible conflict with mother russya

 

[Male Idiot]

Im usually in the other ecochamber, but i thought this was interesting for y'all

Kyrkan höjer beredskapen – här planeras för krigsgravar i Karlskrona

Svenska kyrkan ser nu över sin kapacitet att begrava krigsoffer om kriget kommer. På griftegården i Augerum finns redan en tilltänkt yta – som i en krissituation skulle kunna rymma flera tusen gravar. – Det bör räcka till huvuddelen av Blekinges befolkning, säger Berton Nyström, tf...

www.svt.se

( Hopefully y'all could translate it to english somehow )

Basically, the last few days news in Sweden has been dominated by quite drastic war articles
Sweden has acted on a very old cold war policy, forcing several institutions ( in this case, the church ) for massive casualties. The swedish church has been ordered to prepare a sudden loss of life and burial for this loss of life, about 500k ( 5% of the swedish population )

I dont see how this is necessary, a regular conflict wont cause these kinds of casualties. It sounds like the Swedish government ( that is a pending NATO-member ) are preparing for some sort of massive attack, terrorist dirty bomb, limited nuclear attack etc. Very speculative, but Sweden helped in the bombing of nordstream and are now super scared of retalition? Keep in mind, Sweden has for decades been very slow and passive in enacting and publicizing these sort of policies

Thoughts? I thought this could cause some discussion as this is the only case ive seen of a western nation not in direct conflict making these drastic preparations in the wake of a possible conflict with mother russya

Maybe they are thinking neither them nor the Spurdo Spardes can deepthroat Erdogan quite enough to get that Nato bill passed? Though I can't see Poland not defending either with all the rage of a rabid chiuahua.

Either that or they think the nukes will fly, but than 5% seems rather low. Or maybe they just worried what happens if the power cuts and all those wonderful migrants chimp out and give them a fiery but peaceful protest.

 

[Fait Accompli]

Maybe they are thinking neither them nor the Spurdo Spardes can deepthroat Erdogan quite enough to get that Nato bill passed? Though I can't see Poland not defending either with all the rage of a rabid chiuahua.

Finland is accepted into NATO, not Sweden. Finland has now started to turn their back against Sweden and show signs of being willing to join without Sweden joining. But still, i see no chance of Russia conventionally invading Sweden, only way is a massive seaborne invasion which would be destroyed due to large amounts of anti-naval missiles and local air power being stationed in the area. So the only realistic conclusion is that the Swedish government fears some sort of massive terrorist attack, or nuclear attack. Its just very condradictory and confusing

 

[White_N]

Im usually in the other ecochamber, but i thought this was interesting for y'all

Kyrkan höjer beredskapen – här planeras för krigsgravar i Karlskrona

Svenska kyrkan ser nu över sin kapacitet att begrava krigsoffer om kriget kommer. På griftegården i Augerum finns redan en tilltänkt yta – som i en krissituation skulle kunna rymma flera tusen gravar. – Det bör räcka till huvuddelen av Blekinges befolkning, säger Berton Nyström, tf...

www.svt.se

( Hopefully y'all could translate it to english somehow )

Basically, the last few days news in Sweden has been dominated by quite drastic war articles
Sweden has acted on a very old cold war policy, forcing several institutions ( in this case, the church ) for massive casualties. The swedish church has been ordered to prepare a sudden loss of life and burial for this loss of life, about 500k ( 5% of the swedish population )

I dont see how this is necessary, a regular conflict wont cause these kinds of casualties. It sounds like the Swedish government ( that is a pending NATO-member ) are preparing for some sort of massive attack, terrorist dirty bomb, limited nuclear attack etc. Very speculative, but Sweden helped in the bombing of nordstream and are now super scared of retalition? Keep in mind, Sweden has for decades been very slow and passive in enacting and publicizing these sort of policies

Thoughts? I thought this could cause some discussion as this is the only case ive seen of a western nation not in direct conflict making these drastic preparations in the wake of a possible conflict with mother russya

It could be much simpler; they may want to push for war articles to intimidate the population and make them more inclined to strengthen the government and spend heavily on the military complex. This has been said by many European leaders, and the Ukrainian conflict has shown their utter insignificance with many countries having spent most or all of their arms in a few months donating to Ukraine.

 

[Fait Accompli]

It could be much simpler; they may want to push for war articles to intimidate the population and make them more inclined to strengthen the government and spend heavily on the military complex. This has been said by many European leaders, and the Ukrainian conflict has shown their utter insign

This is absolutely true, in some cases. But as a Swede, our population is very easily convinced and passive. Basically no one has thus far resisted economic and military support ( except 2-3% of reactionaries ). Most here are totally for increased expenses and hate towards russia, so i think its something else.

Its either the swedish state being absolutely retarded and acting without logic or that they're establishing this cold war situation due to some sort of percieved threat

 

[Male Idiot]

Yeah I can't imagine Russia actually invading Swedistan without going through Perkele Land first, all the while the spurdos sperging on pervitin and Poland launching its next, failed and poolish, if glorious, charge at Moscow.

The Russian fleet is not that great to do a sea landing of the magnitude that would be required.

 

[Protonigga Stole My Mail]

This is absolutely true, in some cases. But as a Swede, our population is very easily convinced and passive. Basically no one has thus far resisted economic and military support ( except 2-3% of reactionaries ). Most here are totally for increased expenses and hate towards russia, so i think its something else.

Its either the swedish state being absolutely retarded and acting without logic or that they're establishing this cold war situation due to some sort of percieved threat

What do you mean? They already mentioned their intent to ramp up military production and alertness to levels more similar to what Sweden has had historically. This includes alloted spaces at cemetaries, and mandatory bomb shelters in apartment buildings. It was only around the early 2000's up until 2014 that Sweden had a relatively calm period as far as military spending goes. It's been slowly ramping up and intensifying since then, and with the invasion it has only sped up.

This isn't unusual. What was unusual were the past two decades of peace, and the short period without mandatory conscription. We're just going back to the norm now, with reinstated mandatory conscription, increased civil and military readiness, and spending. There's a reason you can barely go a block without coming across a sign with a blue triangle inside an orange square. It's the same reason why Sweden at one point had one of the largest airforces in the world, still has its own jet factories, and submarine warfs. This is the normal in Sweden.
We just had an unusually peaceful past two decades, and one lucky generation got to enjoy it.

Now it's back to wartime spending, and conscription. Hopefully we'll get up above 3% and close to 4% spending again. That military industry was a boon for regular workers, as well as skilled engineers.

 

[Fait Accompli]

What do you mean? They already mentioned their intent to ramp up military production and alertness to levels more similar to what Sweden has had historically. This includes alloted spaces at cemetaries, and mandatory bomb shelters in apartment buildings. It was only around the early 2000's up until 2014 that Sweden had a relatively calm period as far as military spending goes. It's been slowly ramping up and intensifying since then, and with the invasion it has only sped up.

This isn't unusual. What was unusual were the past two decades of peace, and the short period without mandatory conscription. We're just going back to the norm now, with reinstated mandatory conscription, increased civil and military readiness, and spending. There's a reason you can barely go a block without coming across a sign with a blue triangle inside an orange square. It's the same reason why Sweden at one point had one of the largest airforces in the world, still has its own jet factories, and submarine warfs. This is the normal in Sweden.
We just had an unusually peaceful past two decades, and one lucky generation got to enjoy it.

Now it's back to wartime spending, and conscription. Hopefully we'll get up above 3% and close to 4% spending again. That military industry was a boon for regular workers, as well as skilled engineers.

I think the graveyard thing is the most unusual, since its a legacy cold war action counting on nuclear war. Re-arming during times of crisis isnt that odd, but this emergency measure? Idk, it just rubs me the wrong way. It seems like such an extreme overreaction
Preparing for graveyards for 5% of the population, just think about that massive number

And honestly, i think that the EU's massive re-armament is retarded. The only thing they need to re-arm is their ammunition production and stockpiles, Russia poses no real conventional threat to Europe anymore. The next step is China, i doubt that european tanks will do much good in that theater

 

[VargReallyDidNothingWrong]

Looks kind of like an ATF Dingo.

The first vehicle shown in the video looks like it's a Kozak, based on the "suicide" rear doors and the overall shapes of things. I think the second one (with the corpses inside) might also be a Kozak but the small square viewports and firing ports don't look like the ones you see on Kozak models (the spacing and viewport shapes are different) but that might just be due to the camera not giving a good shot of them and moving around.

 

[RobotDog]

Just when you think the ukranian cope machine couldnt be any more stupid...
After a year of saying Russia ran out of missiles, THIS time, their stockpiles are critically low, unlike back in december when they had only missiles for 3 more unsustainable attacks on khokhols

Also, quite funny they now have to clarify the glorious ukranian armed forces are not able to destroy 99% of the russian missiles launched at them, after they caused the destruction of the Dnipro apartment building in january

https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/status/1634270395552636928

https://web.archive.org/web/20230310221925/https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/03/10/on-9-march-russia-attacked-ukraine-with-missiles-it-produced-in-a-month-yet-russia-lacks-high-precision-missiles/

 

[Vesperus]

Euromaiden press deserve a kinzhal or two just for emoji abuse. Is everybody in Ukraine dead apart for TikTokers and Instagram thots?

 

[Fatniggo1488]

1) Don't know don't care
2) Useless Fuckwit has autism and chooses shitty hills to die on.

Strong disagree. It's really important to start archiving shit, especially now because there's going to be an absolute fuck ton of people deleting shit probably within the next couple of months.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Thoughts? I thought this could cause some discussion as this is the only case ive seen of a western nation not in direct conflict making these drastic preparations in the wake of a possible conflict with mother russya

Seems interesting and suspicious. If they are preparing that much, either they know something we don't, or they are prepping for a WW1 style war propaganda campaign.

 

[Fatniggo1488]

In the Ukie trans allies thread, @Null was asking about looted patches and other war trophies


Two good videos of Wagner soldiers showing off patches taken off of killed foreign mercenaries and UA soldiers after the Soledar encirclement:

Know it's not likely to happen, particularly for the rare shit, but I really hope a lot of these end up in a museum.

How often do you go back and check out the threads from last year?

About once a week, but that's not really the point of archiving things.

 

[Fait Accompli]

Seems interesting and suspicious. If they are preparing that much, either they know something we don't, or they are prepping for a WW1 style war propaganda campaign.

I mean, looking at all possible conventional scenarios, there is absolutely no reason for that sort of preparation

1) They know something disastrous that we dont know
2) They are retarded

Im really hoping for number two