What is the worst thing about the right?

[Thomas Highway]

The anti abortion movement is probably the only Social Conservative issue that gets traction and wins. Mostly because of religious zeal. Namely abortion is murder and therefore america has legalized murder for the past fifty years.

Unless you have the same religious motivations and attitudes, abortion will not be something you are passionate about opposing.

I was raised Catholic and abortion was never really anything more than something that happens but is not discussed.

 

[Mr Cuddles]

Look, I don't deny that current culture is anti-white to a ridiculous extent. But you can be against the demonization of European civilization without coming off as a foaming-at-the-mouth loon. The issue is that *every single* supposedly optical "white advocate" eventually has that breakdown - think the Richard Spencer octaroon rant - which calls into question the whole idea.

I don't class Richard Spencer as a conservative or right wing, that guy is a plague. Think about it. Over the last 5/6 years he has been the biggest gift to the left they could ask for. He pushes politics that are too far right to ever get elected, holds a trap rally in Charlottesville and insists that everyone dress the same, then supports Biden in the last election trying to convince anyone whose dumb enough to still follow him to vote dem.

I suppose the question I would ask you, is who (in your opinion) effectively argues against things like CRT and anti-white discrimination that doesn't come of as a loon.

 

[RandyAcolyte]

Refuses to go far enough. Free helicopter and right wing death squad memes are great and all, but why can't we make them a reality?

 

[Makhnovshchina]

The conservatives are fools: They whine about the decay of traditional values, yet they enthusiastically support technological progress and economic growth. Apparently it never occurs to them that you can't make rapid, drastic changes in the technology and the economy of a society without causing rapid changes in all other aspects of the society as well, and that such rapid changes inevitably break down traditional values

 

[Alex Hogendorp]

They're just the like the Left, except branded as Christians but they know jack shit about what's written in the bible. This is why they're cucks who sucks the cocks out of Donald Trump and Elon Musk.

Once you know about the book of giants, you're basically more superior than anyone else.

They're also simple minded. Like Prohibition in the 1920's, they clearly thought banning Alcohol would stop people from drinking, they're dead wrong.

 

[HeyU]

Them trying to impose their religious beliefs into law. IDC if you’re religious, but the belief is not rational or something that’s proven, so laws shouldn’t be based around it. And some of the laws they’ve imposed are counterproductive.

 

[YourFriendlyLurker 2.0]

American left and American right totally deserve each other.

 

[Not A Bunny]

The left will do the most malicious shit possible, and do it with shit-eating grins on their faces.

The right...they'll just take what the left did and accept it as the status quo.

In other words: The left are actively evil. The right will gladly take their leftovers and serve them warmed over.

 

[Bunny Tracks]

The fact that they could easily win if they just dropped the insane beliefs that only a few of them hold.

It's like watching a man trying to get through a wall by repeatedly running into it when the gate is wide open.

 

[The Ugly One]

The biggest problem with the right is they have zero positive vision. They can't finish the sentence, "In five years, I'd like for society to be..." No vision means no action. It's the reason libs control all the state schools in R+20 states, why you can take women's studies courses at universities in Texas, Kentucky, Tennessee, and Wyoming, why they really never seem to do anything other than mess with how the government is funded and what it spends on.

If the right had a vision and were as motivated a the left, in 25 years, we could have a Puritan theocracy where homosexuality is punishable by being dragged through the streets by a mule. Or whatever. The point is the right actually has the numbers to drive any social change it wants, but lacks any vision or will.

The fact that they could easily win if they just dropped the insane beliefs that only a few of them hold.

It's like watching a man trying to get through a wall by repeatedly running into it when the gate is wide open.

The idea that we'd start winning if we'd just purge the fringe a little bit harder has been pursued by the right since the 1960s, and has continually failed since the 1960s. Amoral small government is a political turkey that everyone says they would vote for, but nobody actually votes for. The left can openly celebrate, fund, and provide logistical support to communist terror gangs burning down entire neighborhoods in the name of letting niggers commit crimes, a deeply unpopular tactic by a deeply unpopular group for a deeply unpopular cause, and still win.

So no, the fact that the right can't somehow forbid Christians from publishing books, holding conferences, or running for office is not why we lose.

 

[Tren Shapiro]

So no, the fact that the right can't somehow forbid Christians from publishing books, holding conferences, or running for office is not why we lose.

The key to total rightwing victory is more Turning Point Black Leadership Summits featuring based homosexual black conservatives like Rob Smith.

 

[Angry Alt Right Nerd]

Generally, the left follows good ideas but horribly corrupts them, but the right just follows bad ideas. This doesn't isn't limited to ideas on how society should be run, it also extends to how modern society is actually run. The left has methodically seized all levers of both culture and power because of the correct idea that society is run by the few with power, and the right has absolutely nothing but cope based on the incorrect idea that society is run by the masses. Also their hubris makes it extremely difficult for them to ever correct their wrong ideas.

 

[Sagengrot]

They don't value culture. Or support its creation in any meaningful way.

 

[VIPPER?]

didn't read thread
the overarching reliance on rule of law makes it self-defeating in any revolutionary context: the people who value rule of law so much are generally unwilling to engage to get things changed. the ones that do are mostly accelerationists hoping that collapse will magically bring about new rules that are convenient to them, which is hopeful at best and magical thinking at worst

 

[Ishtar]

One of the things I noticed reading way too much DR twitter is the anime fandom. You see this in BAP adjacent circles(Amarna and its offshoots), as well as more trad catholic/orthodox stuff. You can tell these people were into anime in the 2010s and maybe earlier, before it really hit the mainstream. One could argue all western media is zog garbage(as some do) but reading between the lines, I get the impression these young men were already mostly weebs, chan users, and other maladjusted weirdos.

The same ones that will trumpet Nietzchean egoism and how badass the SS was. One of them said totally unironically "Nietzche would have disliked anime, Hitler would have loved it"-think about that, no think about an entire social sphere where such an inane statement can even be made.

A lot of the far right, especially online is comprised of alienated young men who feel no real affinity for the mainstream-mass culture, western religion, all of it. Nazism is the one avenue that doesn't involve a loss of self-respect(which they do have).

The problem...in case it has to be said again is people like this will never lead a vanguard, they will never seize power, they will never enact their dreams of "total nigger death" and "le vitalist ubermensch world". Its a cope-ironic that people like this are such hardcore Nietzcheans.

Similar issues exist with other sub spheres-the right attracts the comfortable and stupid(boomers, qanon, etc...) and the intelligent but alienated. It never gains an entry into the masses, it never wins over elites.

I just don't see how this will change-sexually frustrated incels with Asuka pps who will never reproduce much less become conquerors and kings, and boomers who comprise qanonist White ghost dance postmodern spiritualism, and comfortable freepers that rail at the gays on Teevee but would never sacrifice their 401Ks is not and will never be a winning movement.

Its a parade of the lost and the damned, the wise and the fools. A headless snake somehow chasing its own tail.

 

[This Is Violence Now]

I noticed reading way too much DR twitter is the anime fandom

Tranime is the refuge of pedophiles and closet/outed gay/transexual freaks. They can't help themselves either, they boast about their pedophile fetish if you confront them. Most vile yet mainstream sector of the right wing.

 

[56 others]

They're all so gay. Current groyper/alt-right meme is thugposting, post gay black porn edits. Not gay btw

 

[Sneeter Rabbit]

lifestyle politics, personality cultism, minimal praxis informed by elite theory without an actual elite to implement it, hostility to activism and lack of a mass base or will to build one, ruralism, unwillingness to fight back institutional marginalisation, exclusivity & inability to bring new people in (relates to the fixation on ideological purity), empty terminology and abundance of catchphrases, the autistic self-absorption of right wingers themselves, the fatalism... i can't really pick.

 

[Ishtar]

lifestyle politics, personality cultism, minimal praxis informed by elite theory without an actual elite to implement it, hostility to activism and lack of a mass base or will to build one, ruralism, unwillingness to fight back institutional marginalisation, exclusivity & inability to bring new people in (relates to the fixation on ideological purity), empty terminology and abundance of catchphrases, the autistic self-absorption of right wingers themselves, the fatalism... i can't really pick.

You literally described 99.9999999999999999999999% of the things I read on Twitter and telegram every day.

 

[Sneeter Rabbit]

You literally described 99.9999999999999999999999% of the things I read on Twitter and telegram every day.

that makes sense, since 99.999999999999999999999% of the things that the right is doing are wrong.
but do mean from right wingers specifically or things you read in general?