Modern Web Woes - I'm mad at the internet

[Monuklear]

To me KF isn't "social media", it's a "Web 1.0" style forum. Sites like FB and Twitter are "social media" to me.

BBS forums like Kiwifarms are the very definition of Web 2.0.
Web 1.0 is Geocities.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole 2]

BBS forums like Kiwifarms are the very definition of Web 2.0.
Web 1.0 is Geocities.

I sort of agree but forums and communities were a thing before Web 2.0 and I think Web 2.0 are things from 1999 and onwards. Plain forums and late 90's social media sites are more web 1.5. Fighting with strangers on the internet could be easily done without web rings, e-mail chains and IRC channels. (I'm ignoring usenet in this post, it's about the web)

 

[Billhook]

For those of you who want to see modern web UI designers boiled in chinese gutter oil, some browser addons I've been enjoying for a couple of months:
Youtube Redux : "Replicate old YouTube look and features within the modern layout" - rough around the edges, but has a lot of nice settings like square avatars and feature hiding (no more fucking shorts)
GoodTwitter 2 : "A try to make Twitter look good again." - similar to yt redux, square avatars, feature hiding, set "Following" as the default feed, etc

(I'm retarded and had no idea whether or not to post this in the software endorsements thread since these technically aren't software)

 

[PipTheAlchemist]

For those of you who want to see modern web UI designers boiled in chinese gutter oil, some browser addons I've been enjoying for a couple of months:
Youtube Redux : "Replicate old YouTube look and features within the modern layout" - rough around the edges, but has a lot of nice settings like square avatars and feature hiding (no more fucking shorts)
GoodTwitter 2 : "A try to make Twitter look good again." - similar to yt redux, square avatars, feature hiding, set "Following" as the default feed, etc

(I'm retarded and had no idea whether or not to post this in the software endorsements thread since these technically aren't software)

Thx for the YouTube Redux recommendation. I've used similar extentions in the past, but they'd always expire or stop working after a while. I've been looking for something like this for so long now

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Mentioned it before: it really sucks how the YT algorithm detects "kids stuff", turns comments off, and puts a "Try YouTube Kids" ad in their place.* Then "related" vids to what the algorithm processed as "kids stuff" really are stuff meant for kids. Little kids.

*(it's even happened to a video by "Chris Chan" at least once, IIRC)

 

[Inafune Fanfiction]

You can’t look up anything now without being bombared by weaponized narcissism in the form of aggressive clickbait and discordnigger shitpost spam or completely irrelevant political propaganda.

Then talking about it anywhere will get some glownigger and their sockpuppets to show up and gaslight or outright ban you.

 

[Maggots on a Train v2]

Mentioned it before: it really sucks how the YT algorithm detects "kids stuff", turns comments off, and puts a "Try YouTube Kids" ad in their place.* Then "related" vids to what the algorithm processed as "kids stuff" really are stuff meant for kids. Little kids.

*(it's even happened to a video by "Chris Chan" at least once, IIRC)

YouTube Kids is the biggest fucking farce. If a multi-billion dollar company is going to market videos to kids, they should have to pay a living adult human somewhere to cherry pick what goes through. A dozen censors in an office somewhere could process more content in one month than a kid should ever watch in a lifetime. A content bottleneck wouldn't even hurt. But it's all pointless, because people just give their kids unrestricted access to the full Internet.

 

[ditto]

I don't understand what's happening with Google search recently. Even Bing is getting better results.
Seems like every second search I get maybe a page and a half of results before this fucking thing appears.

Note to UI designers: when your software doesn't work that's not the time to be cutesy.

 

[volatile]

It feels like the soul of the Internet was just ripped right out of it. Communities on Reddit and Discord and Twitter are made up entirely of virtue-signaling narcissists with a stick always up their asses, hell-bent on monetizing and moralizing and shutting down every possible method of open dissent that could ever exist.

Reminder that old communities were great because it gatekept those plebs out with elitism and a higher barrier to entrance. This is also the reason why the I2P network is so comfy, a normie isn't capable of firing up an I2P daemon(Mental Outlaw shilled it a while ago but it hasn't degraded the quality).

 

[Inafune Fanfiction]

Reminder that old communities were great because it gatekept those plebs out with elitism and a higher barrier to entrance. This is also the reason why the I2P network is so comfy, a normie isn't capable of firing up an I2P daemon(Mental Outlaw shilled it a while ago but it hasn't degraded the quality).

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You try any gatekeeping these days and the site staff will have you removed before you can finish typing your post. Remember, its only bad when you do it. When the discordniggers, glowies, trannies, and other brainlets do it, its justified and "necessary".

 

[Yaks]

I just came here to bitch about mobile website design spreading to desktop web design. Half the sites I go to now, even ones where technical information is important like a type of software, is just the single page scroll now with anchor links. The sections don't even link to more informative pages anymore, it's just basic "here is product and some unhelpful pictures, with some corpo jargon about how great product is!" I've seen two page pamphlets be more helpful. But you know, it has smooth transitions and a e s t h e t i c s.

Also fuck you if you like putting a burger menu for your navigation.

 

[PhoBingas]

You can’t look up anything now without being bombared by weaponized narcissism in the form of aggressive clickbait and discordnigger shitpost spam or completely irrelevant political propaganda.

Then talking about it anywhere will get some glownigger and their sockpuppets to show up and gaslight or outright ban you.

I can't quite place my fingers on when search engines stopped giving me "information" and started giving me "answers", but search engines like google and bing have been nigh on unusable for nearly a decade. You'll either only find stuff from 'approved' sources only, or anything relevant will be behind a paywall.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Some site which worked well and was not too JS heavy had layout changed, changed to only work in JS, and search was borked to be BS.

This made me think: has a website ever gotten better, or does entropy apply to web design too: sites always decay and don't improve?

Spoiler

(aside from this site anyway)

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole 2]

I just came here to bitch about mobile website design spreading to desktop web design. Half the sites I go to now, even ones where technical information is important like a type of software, is just the single page scroll now with anchor links. The sections don't even link to more informative pages anymore, it's just basic "here is product and some unhelpful pictures, with some corpo jargon about how great product is!" I've seen two page pamphlets be more helpful. But you know, it has smooth transitions and a e s t h e t i c s.

Also fuck you if you like putting a burger menu for your navigation.

Maybe my biggest issue with mobile site designs is that PC doesn't work like mobile. If the browser loses focus and you need to bring focus back then... you have to click on it. Who the fuck knows what will happen when you do that

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Seems YT just got even worse (yet again).

Used to be because of all the annoying stuff I selected "not interested" or "don't recommend this channel" on, the custom front page was nice and short, with the occasional annoying thing only sometimes. Now, videos from channels I selected to not recommend keep showing up, and the custom front page is really long and filled with annoying stuff. Selecting "not interested" or "don't recommend this channel" seems to be useless. For example, "The Late Show With Stephen Colbert" keeps popping up.

Is this happening to anyone else?

 

[RSLUG30]

Seems YT just got even worse (yet again).

Used to be because of all the annoying stuff I selected "not interested" or "don't recommend this channel" on, the custom front page was nice and short, with the occasional annoying thing only sometimes. Now, videos from channels I selected to not recommend keep showing up, and the custom front page is really long and filled with annoying stuff. Selecting "not interested" or "don't recommend this channel" seems to be useless. For example, "The Late Show With Stephen Colbert" keeps popping up.

Is this happening to anyone else?

This happens when you have video viewing history disabled and I've noticed this a lot more since I disabled that, just with different videos to what you're seeing.
My guess is that when youtube can't recommend a video based on your history, watch later playlist, or subscriptions, it will fall back to videos popular in your identified region and that happens to include mostly normie content.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Is this happening to anyone else?

Not exactly, but I have started seeing community posts appearing at random in the video list, rather than kept away in their own section. It feels like something they're A/B testing because I've only seen it a couple of times. Fucking annoying when it happens, though.

 

[Pig Boss]

Seems YT just got even worse (yet again).

Used to be because of all the annoying stuff I selected "not interested" or "don't recommend this channel" on, the custom front page was nice and short, with the occasional annoying thing only sometimes. Now, videos from channels I selected to not recommend keep showing up, and the custom front page is really long and filled with annoying stuff. Selecting "not interested" or "don't recommend this channel" seems to be useless. For example, "The Late Show With Stephen Colbert" keeps popping up.

Is this happening to anyone else?

It was happening to me recently despite leaving viewing history on, as always I just turned to extensions and use BlockTube to permanently block the channels and videos I keep getting recommended.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

it will fall back to videos popular in your identified region and that happens to include mostly normie content.

Not exactly

It was happening to me recently

update: YT seems to be "readjusting" and going back to the short custom page after I repeatedly clicked "do not recommend this channel" or "not interested". Maybe there was some reset somewhere. And yeah, I don't like having American "normie stuff" swamping the front page. Feels like an attempt at "social engineering" there.

 

[ryuichi]

update: YT seems to be "readjusting" and going back to the short custom page after I repeatedly clicked "do not recommend this channel" or "not interested". Maybe there was some reset somewhere. And yeah, I don't like having American "normie stuff" swamping the front page. Feels like an attempt at "social engineering" there.

YT lost its way after 2011.

I don't understand what's happening with Google search recently. Even Bing is getting better results.
Seems like every second search I get maybe a page and a half of results before this fucking thing appears.
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Note to UI designers: when your software doesn't work that's not the time to be cutesy.

fuck i hate this ugly ass thing