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The trend of non-troons passing better than the true and honest ones is one I fully support.
Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.
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I was already a bit concerned for Finnster's safety, since he's a very young man basically prostituting himself to very sketchy older men, but now that the trannies are ree-ing for his blood it honestly seems like someone might attack him. Sounds dramatic, sure, but the UK has been the site of unprovoked tranny-with-a-hammer attacks, and trannies travelled here to literally wait outside J.K. Rowling's door to do...something....once.
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Shouldn't you actually do something before you become not just a champion but a remarkable one?
He wrote this himself didn't he.
Swimminglanes
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That's funny, he probably did write it himself. He's clearly not a native speaker though, too posh for that.
From the Geordie dialect:
In Geordie English, the word “champion” becomes an adjective rather than a noun, meaning “great” or “excellent”. This phrase is commonly prefaced with “Eeeh”, which is a Geordie way of adding emphasis to something.
Belta is another term meaning something is excellent. Belta is the Geordie form of belter used to mean “impressive” or “exceptional” since the late 19th century. It comes from belt, meaning “a heavy blow or punch”, in the sense of something literally being “strikingly” brilliant.
He's a belta alreet, but not in the way he thinks.
From the Geordie dialect:
In Geordie English, the word “champion” becomes an adjective rather than a noun, meaning “great” or “excellent”. This phrase is commonly prefaced with “Eeeh”, which is a Geordie way of adding emphasis to something.
Belta is another term meaning something is excellent. Belta is the Geordie form of belter used to mean “impressive” or “exceptional” since the late 19th century. It comes from belt, meaning “a heavy blow or punch”, in the sense of something literally being “strikingly” brilliant.
He's a belta alreet, but not in the way he thinks.
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Gossip alertOK so this is going to powerlevel me if people I know read this thread, but I couldn't not share this.
Holy shit. I was at brunch (thus obviously I'm a bit tipsy and oversharing) and a friend of mine shared that they'd run into Ollie a while back. It was at Drab Drinks in Retro Bar, which is like a meetup for lonely transgender people. Ollie had apparently turned up by himself because he has no friends in the London trans scene, which meshes with what other people (including trans people) who've met Ollie said.
Ollie was wankered and apparently overshared quite a lot. My mate's a handmaiden so was trying to be polite and affirming about it and downplaying this nonsense, but they ran into Ollie and an Aiden out front and:
- Was told "never repeat this"
- Ollie was grandstanding about how famous he is, plugging his play and TV show (regrettably did not disclose what seriously big deal IP he was working on, but mentioned it)
- He organically brought up his "messed up ex" who my friend knew was Contra. When asked if this was Contra, Ollie said yes and bragged about being "Chad". They apparently went out for 18 months.
- Confirmed it was Contra who said "I'm so sorry this has happened to you" when he came out as Trans.
- Apparently he came out to Contra before 'Shame".
- Contra left her bag in Ollie's room at the last vidcon they were at together but was super frosty and basically treated Ollie as a cloakroom attendant
- Contra won't even look at Ollie anymore. The last time he saw Contra, he'd approached her to say "Look, I've transformed". Contra blanked him and then later was carried out of a bar because she'd gotten so fucked up she couldn't stand.
- Ollie uses Contra's opiate addiction to mock and belittle her.
- Aiden appeared visibly disgusted at how Ollie was talking about his "crazy ex Nat", mocking her for her addictions, and my friend felt uncomfortable too (hence why they brought it up at brunch).
- Apparently "Abigail" looked "really nice". I guess the fetish clothing is only for videos.
- Sadly, my mate did not get "babes"'d. But there was a sense Ollie just wanted to talk about himself and was very dismissive if people weren't feeding his ego. He monopolised this conversation and besides "Is Contra your ex?" all this was infodumped without prompting.
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I never fail to be amused at how some posters on The Farms can make observations about makeup and “beauty aesthetics” (for lack of a better term) that id never be able to fathom, to succinctly and accurately convey how troons aren’t real women
Keep up the good work
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Notes on the live stream. Nothing too exciting.
Live Stream
Oliver denying his biggest patron a pair of glasses he stole:
Live Stream
Oliver denying his biggest patron a pair of glasses he stole:
Oliver’s back was injured from sleeping with a pillow under his legs. He heard doing that makes you sleep better but it put too much pressure on his back. It hurts enough that it’s difficult for him to walk.
His mom and dad love Django. They told him the show is quite violent and they like that he’s one of few characters who smile.
“Crypto Bitch” is what he and the crew called his look where he has his feet on the desk and the stockings on.
He’s pleased with how this video performed. He thinks his presence on TikTok and Insta might have helped bring new people over. He said some people who were new viewers “aren’t used to thinking theatrically” and specifically were like, “why are you dressed as a nun???” Lol. He said nuns are “doing good and helping others” and that it’s not a hard concept to grasp. He said he got a lot of “transphobic abuse” from this video. He thinks it’s coming from TikTok. He says that the viewers “see that I’m a woman” and get agitated by that.
He says Finster texted him merely asking to sit and observe a filming of Philosophy Tube, but Oliver decided to write him a little something to do in the episode. Oliver says Finster is very different in person. They went to dinner the night before. After filming they ordered pizza and returned to Oliver’s flat. He described it as “wholesome.”
He talked quite a bit about “retention rates” and the algorithms and metrics. I guess he’s dropped the artistic pretense. He even sped up the intro (about attending the conference) because it didn’t “pop” enough so it plays at like 1.5 speed or whatever.
He talked about going vegetarian for awhile, he’s not officially so, but he said he ate so much meat during his premiere trip that he decided to buy all non-meat/veggies when he returned to the UK. He isn’t going full vegetarian because he worries with his [alleged] history of disordered eating, he may become fixated or whatever. I’m actually inclined to believe him here, it seems like he is focused on weight loss right now and he does have a history of obsessive fixation on strength training, dieting, or restricting. He talked about wanting to slim down as long ago as the first post-trooning live stream. He has not been able to work out due to the back injury and says he is unhappy with his appearance on this stream because of that.
Of course he cried again over the Diana Rivera donation, though it was slightly abbreviated this time. Later he referred to her donation as a “distraction” (because he had gone off topic) which belies his phony tears. He didn’t seem to mean anything by it, but still, I thought it was a telling slip.
Around 47:00 Diana was allowed to ask a SuperChat question and her question was does he still have the aviator glasses from the Confucius video and can she (Diana) have them? He matter of factly responds, “no you can’t, they’re mine.” No pretense whatsoever of saying - I’d love to give them to you, but they are sentimental to me - or something like that.
Recall this person has donated thousands of dollars to him. He goes on to say that he stole them as a teenager from a prop cupboard. Then he repeats, again totally matter of factly, “no you can’t have them, they’re mine. They’re my Joe Biden glasses.” And he puts them on and poses sEdUcTiVeLy. To reiterate, this fan has donated thousands and thousands of dollars, and Oliver often breaks down crying asking if Diana is taking care of herself etc. Yet when she asks for the glasses he just abruptly says no you can’t have them. Bam. No rejoinder, no offer to send something else. I’m not saying he’s obliged to give them to her but the matter of fact way he dismisses the request is telling to me.
He then says a third time “no you can’t have them, they’re mine.” Again, just blunt as can be. I’m gonna clip this exchange. During this clip he also gets up to get the glasses and you see his ridiculously fake breasts and (apparently) thinning hair.
When he puts the glasses on you can see what’s in front of him in the reflection and chatters ask if he has a ring light and he confirms that he does and uses it for selfies and TikTok.
He talks about the premiere after party and how fun it was and he says this (55:00): “We just had a blast. I think that night was one of the only nights I can remember as an adult when I just had fun. When I just relaxed and had fun without trying to achieve anything.” Another telling statement. Tube is always hustling.
Around 57:30 to 58:50 he sort of subtly implies there was some kind of troon orgy or hookup that he participated in on the trip. Several of them got sick with strep throat. He never says anything definitive just keeps arching his eyebrow and smiling mischievously aka derangedly. He talks a bit about having different friend groups meeting and how awkward it can be. He seems to say ( at 1:00:00) that Claire (his ex) met his current “girl” friend. They got along.
At 1:01:00 he seems to refer to Contra. He says a “really big awful thing” happened at last year’s VidCon. “Basically ran into an old - a very old friend - who I hadn’t seen in quite a long time [he gestures to his now trooned out self]. Basically we couldn’t be friends anymore. It was IMMEDIATELY made very apparent that they didn’t accept my transition. Which was sad.” Based Contra lol. [\spoiler]
His mom and dad love Django. They told him the show is quite violent and they like that he’s one of few characters who smile.
“Crypto Bitch” is what he and the crew called his look where he has his feet on the desk and the stockings on.
He’s pleased with how this video performed. He thinks his presence on TikTok and Insta might have helped bring new people over. He said some people who were new viewers “aren’t used to thinking theatrically” and specifically were like, “why are you dressed as a nun???” Lol. He said nuns are “doing good and helping others” and that it’s not a hard concept to grasp. He said he got a lot of “transphobic abuse” from this video. He thinks it’s coming from TikTok. He says that the viewers “see that I’m a woman” and get agitated by that.
He says Finster texted him merely asking to sit and observe a filming of Philosophy Tube, but Oliver decided to write him a little something to do in the episode. Oliver says Finster is very different in person. They went to dinner the night before. After filming they ordered pizza and returned to Oliver’s flat. He described it as “wholesome.”
He talked quite a bit about “retention rates” and the algorithms and metrics. I guess he’s dropped the artistic pretense. He even sped up the intro (about attending the conference) because it didn’t “pop” enough so it plays at like 1.5 speed or whatever.
He talked about going vegetarian for awhile, he’s not officially so, but he said he ate so much meat during his premiere trip that he decided to buy all non-meat/veggies when he returned to the UK. He isn’t going full vegetarian because he worries with his [alleged] history of disordered eating, he may become fixated or whatever. I’m actually inclined to believe him here, it seems like he is focused on weight loss right now and he does have a history of obsessive fixation on strength training, dieting, or restricting. He talked about wanting to slim down as long ago as the first post-trooning live stream. He has not been able to work out due to the back injury and says he is unhappy with his appearance on this stream because of that.
Of course he cried again over the Diana Rivera donation, though it was slightly abbreviated this time. Later he referred to her donation as a “distraction” (because he had gone off topic) which belies his phony tears. He didn’t seem to mean anything by it, but still, I thought it was a telling slip.
Around 47:00 Diana was allowed to ask a SuperChat question and her question was does he still have the aviator glasses from the Confucius video and can she (Diana) have them? He matter of factly responds, “no you can’t, they’re mine.” No pretense whatsoever of saying - I’d love to give them to you, but they are sentimental to me - or something like that.
Recall this person has donated thousands of dollars to him. He goes on to say that he stole them as a teenager from a prop cupboard. Then he repeats, again totally matter of factly, “no you can’t have them, they’re mine. They’re my Joe Biden glasses.” And he puts them on and poses sEdUcTiVeLy. To reiterate, this fan has donated thousands and thousands of dollars, and Oliver often breaks down crying asking if Diana is taking care of herself etc. Yet when she asks for the glasses he just abruptly says no you can’t have them. Bam. No rejoinder, no offer to send something else. I’m not saying he’s obliged to give them to her but the matter of fact way he dismisses the request is telling to me.
He then says a third time “no you can’t have them, they’re mine.” Again, just blunt as can be. I’m gonna clip this exchange. During this clip he also gets up to get the glasses and you see his ridiculously fake breasts and (apparently) thinning hair.
When he puts the glasses on you can see what’s in front of him in the reflection and chatters ask if he has a ring light and he confirms that he does and uses it for selfies and TikTok.
He talks about the premiere after party and how fun it was and he says this (55:00): “We just had a blast. I think that night was one of the only nights I can remember as an adult when I just had fun. When I just relaxed and had fun without trying to achieve anything.” Another telling statement. Tube is always hustling.
Around 57:30 to 58:50 he sort of subtly implies there was some kind of troon orgy or hookup that he participated in on the trip. Several of them got sick with strep throat. He never says anything definitive just keeps arching his eyebrow and smiling mischievously aka derangedly. He talks a bit about having different friend groups meeting and how awkward it can be. He seems to say ( at 1:00:00) that Claire (his ex) met his current “girl” friend. They got along.
At 1:01:00 he seems to refer to Contra. He says a “really big awful thing” happened at last year’s VidCon. “Basically ran into an old - a very old friend - who I hadn’t seen in quite a long time [he gestures to his now trooned out self]. Basically we couldn’t be friends anymore. It was IMMEDIATELY made very apparent that they didn’t accept my transition. Which was sad.” Based Contra lol. [\spoiler]
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You’re adorable.
Oh you’re serious?
Silly child; words don’t have meaning anymore.
singlefilemurdermile
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any indicator of when that mightve been? is there any suggestion he made another pass at contra during his recent stint stateside?
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I’m never going to get to the point in life where I know any of what that stuff is or means
And on the one hand it gives me pause but on the other hand I’m cool with it.
I’m sure there’s something deeper in there about troons being skinwalkers to the extent that they’ll try to ape/mimic being a high falutin type that they try to act fancy and adopt a “oh hmm yes I think I’ll have the chateau gay frenchman with the quail” type of attitude but I do know that the truly cultured elite are very adept at sniffing out who’s actually immersed in that kind of stuff and who’s just playing make believe.
And that all ties back to troons (like PT) aping/mimicking what they think “being a woman” is like, and it always ends up being the most surface level aspects; just like people who try too hard to seem cultured by eating fancy cheeses and expensive wines.
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Does playing a video at higher speeds affect the retention rates in the Studio? I've a couple of friends with smallish channels and I sometimes "watch" their vids on 2x (muted) and comment on a random thing lol so they have a full watch and engagement, but does it show as having watched it for the time spent, or amount of video watched?
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this tard.
is every word out of his mouth a weirdly thought out lie?
cause I LOATHE being vulnerable
-apart form when i can leverage my dOmEstic aBuSe! and then dEpReSsIoN! and uhhhh sExuALiTy! and then gEnDeR iDeNtItY! OH and uhhhhhhh and eAtInG dIsOrdEr!
OR
did he get the chop?
lol
did he fall over on the way home from Drab Drinks? or get punched by the Aiden after closing time?
is every word out of his mouth a weirdly thought out lie?
cause I LOATHE being vulnerable
-apart form when i can leverage my dOmEstic aBuSe! and then dEpReSsIoN! and uhhhh sExuALiTy! and then gEnDeR iDeNtItY! OH and uhhhhhhh and eAtInG dIsOrdEr!
OR
did he get the chop?
lol
did he fall over on the way home from Drab Drinks? or get punched by the Aiden after closing time?
PuddIeduck
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The livestream summary a few posts above says that he slept with his legs elevated, which put pressure on his back, minorly crippling him for a couple of days...
Tombigbee
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Dunno specifically but Oliver was talking about two different issues, he just said that this particular video has a better retention rate than some recent others. And he attributes that to all the editing and bells and whistles (he’s essentially artificially shoehorning) in the videos.
He described even putting transitional sounds (whoosh, etc.) into the jump cuts. He really went on at length about how the title, the thumbnail, the editing and pace are all constructed with maximum engagement in mind. At one point he said unapologetically, “it works!” He said the thumbnail was not even his choice, his agent overrode Tube and demanded the pervert latex nun. (I believe Oliver wanted “crypto bitch.”) Oliver said the more sentence-like titles are what’s popular now so he goes with that. And while he was editing he didn’t like the intro so he sped it up just to give it that quick TikTok style.
I think YouTube provides a lot of metrics so it seems like any engagement you give (even at 2X speed) is helping your friends.
Edit - He mentioned this in the live stream but I have yet to watch / be subjected to it yet:
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LOL
Tube wtf are you talking about?
Lineker is in trouble for talking about actual vulnerable people in a different demographic to himself, not moaning because he wants more expensive elective surgery NOW DAMNIT
The 'GET IN THERE..' image, seen this used a few times lately in his replies.
Can guess its always different people, since he blocks constantly
Tube wtf are you talking about?
Lineker is in trouble for talking about actual vulnerable people in a different demographic to himself, not moaning because he wants more expensive elective surgery NOW DAMNIT
The 'GET IN THERE..' image, seen this used a few times lately in his replies.
Can guess its always different people, since he blocks constantly
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Well duh. Ollie is the fun house version of Hontra. He breaks the illusion of being a woman and I bet Hontra hates that.
But personally, I love that for him.
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@AssignedEva Great intel. Every time I visit London I secretly hope to catch a glimpse of Olly in the wild. I guess I just don't go to enough meetups for lonely troons. A few questions/comments:
Also someone will have to explain to me what an 'Aiden' is, I have no idea.
I occasionally feel sorry for Olly being so evidently forever alone. It does seem strange to me that he has no friends in the London trans scene though. Why not? I understand why he doesn't have friends in general - because he isn't very likeable and doesn't make a good first impression, as your friend's story demonstrates. But why no troon friends? These aren't the most well-adjusted people with the highest standards, and Olly is a reasonably famous troon to boot, with a big YouTube channel and an acting career, as well as being a 'champion' for 'trans rights'. You'd think plenty of troons would be eager to be his hangers-on. Weren't some of the people who came to the première his friends from London?
Your friend said that to you, or Olly said that to your friend? Referring to what specifically? Contra?
Olly takes 'not being over your ex' to serious psychotic stalker levels. I can maybe understand having this conversation with your close friend, but with someone you don't know? wow
What exactly did Olly say when mocking him?
To be taken with a pinch of salt? Is this just a handmaiden trying to be nice?
Surprise, surprise.
Also someone will have to explain to me what an 'Aiden' is, I have no idea.
Tryphine
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This was interesting to me. I'd always assumed he trooned out because Contra came out as a lesbian, but it's funny to imagine it going the other way. Publicly renouncing men is an understandable reaction to being offered the choob in a dress.
The problem Olly has is that he isn't one thing or the other. He went to public school and his childhood home sold for over a million, which means to most Geordies he might as well be Queen. But to posh people, he's common as muck; people here keep saying he's descended from a king, but it's not true. His family made their money in the Industrial Revolution. He has no breeding whatsoever.
His upbringing was so privileged he has no way to relate to regular people, but he doesn't have the money or the breeding to relate to the aristocracy. He can't decide whether he wants to pretend to be relatable, or pretend to be the people's princess. So he wobbles back and forth. He can't afford a house, but he's descended from a king, babes! He hesitated to get FFS because so many trans people can't afford it
but he's working on a serious big name IP, babes. He doesn't seem to have any sense of identity. It would be sad if it wasn't happening to him."Aiden" means FtM. It comes from a disproportionate number of them choosing Aiden as a new name.
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It's worth pointing out here that just about everyone is descended from a king or other notable person from back in the mists of time. It's been hypothesised for example that all moderns Europeans are the descendants of Charlemagne. This fact surprises people because they don't take into account the exponentially expanding nature of human descendancy - the average person born a thousand years ago will have a trillion descendants today. There aren't a trillion people on Earth of course, but each individual is descended from most of his or her ancient ancestors multiple times.
The only difference is that if you're listed in Debrett or the Almanach de Gotha then there's a good chance you can actually prove that you're descended from a king, whereas most people can't.