I've nothing against TOH or Dana, but it's funny how little influence or lasting impression it had despite being hyped up for years. It didn't even have to deal with shit like CN's love of hiatuses either.
I've nothing against TOH or Dana, but it's funny how little influence or last impression it had despite being hyped up for years. It didn't even have to deal with shit like CN's love of hiatuses either.
It and Amphibia seem to have failed the same popularity as Gravity Falls, which kind of tracks since even Amphibia, which I like more of it or Owl House, I think I enjoy less than the spiritual predecessor to both given the people involved. But it's been a while since I saw them close together.
Which might be growing more common. I don't follow such things closely but it feels like newer cartoons fail to achieve similar fanbases to the previous ones. Which unfortunately might actually be intentional. A popular show, that can be rewatched and enjoyed even after people age out of the targeted age group, while successful also takes away from new shows. Whereas now the aim seems to be more for shows that are consumed and discarded, unlikely to ever really be revisited. In turn this creates work for new show runners, writers, animators etc.
yeah that sounds about right
I'm completely unsurprised a series as inherently vapid as TDI is doing a reboot like this, but it is really funny to see that the art style is identical to the first series because that's always the one element that changes in other reboots. TDI can't even be assed to put in enough effort to try out a shitty beanface.
A good decision, for once, but also a really funny one that highlights just how creatively bankrupt this franchise is.
Can't quote the @SpiderBitch on the initial Total Drama post but what bothers me about them jerking themselves off over the diversity was that the show was already diverse.
The original cast had an equal amount of boys and girls, a Hispanic contestant, an Indian, two black people, a Hawaiian, two Asians (I think Sadie is Asian?) and in World Tour they introduced another Hispanic and Sierra who is probably black. But the showrunners didn't have to point any of this out or pat themselves on the back. They just did it and didn't feel the need to shout it off the top of a mountain. Diversity isn't bad on its own, it's when you feel the need to loudly pat yourself on the back for it when it becomes obnoxious.
Can't quote the @SpiderBitch on the initial Total Drama post but what bothers me about them jerking themselves off over the diversity was that the show was already diverse.
The original cast had an equal amount of boys and girls, a Hispanic contestant, an Indian, two black people, a Hawaiian, two Asians (I think Sadie is Asian?) and in World Tour they introduced another Hispanic and Sierra who is probably black. But the showrunners didn't have to point any of this out or pat themselves on the back. They just did it and didn't feel the need to shout it off the top of a mountain. Diversity isn't bad on its own, it's when you feel the need to loudly pat yourself on the back for it when it becomes obnoxious.
Yeah, they're really acting like they're only starting to be diverse now, which is weird because wouldn't you get MORE asspats for reminding people you were diverse in the mid 2000s???
Many were a bit stereotypical and some booted early, but the same was the case with the white characters.
I guess 'diversity' now is having as much black characters as white ones, in a country with 80% white population and 4% black population. Also homos.
In season 1, there were I think two asians (katie and sadie) and 1 wasian (heather).
So 10 characters of various colours in a cast of 24. Most of them with more interesting and appealing designs than the poc designed 20 years later...
In the second cast, it took kind of a weird turn, it had 3 black males, 1 ambigously brown male with DID, a male and a female who are probably white, and 7 characters who are definitely white.
But then the 3rd cast was more diverse again by having an Indian beg for bobs and vagene from a native girl and then go into incel rage when rejected, besides having another 3 new black characters in the group of 14 contestants.
And then the Ridonculous Race spinoff had 36 contestants, who were mega diverse, and designed better and with more detail than these new 'diverse' contestants despite being with more than double the characters.
Throwaway characters
VS 1/8th of the new cast.
For some reason, at this point, they had begun to give their asian characters literal yellow skin, something that absolutely wasn't the case in the first season, and it seems they are continuing with this in the new season.
Season 1 Asian character on the right.
Ridonculous Race and New Season Asian characters.
So basically, they're giving themselves asspats over becoming diverse even though they already were and might actually be regressing on that front, all while the actual quality of their show has been regressing since after season 3.
A lot of the things known about this new season is JUST multiple statements about them 'focusing on diversity', nothing about what will actually happen or what these characters are like is known.
It's not even known when the show will release, despite it already being like 2 years overdue.
It and Amphibia seem to have failed the same popularity as Gravity Falls, which kind of tracks since even Amphibia, which I like more of it or Owl House, I think I enjoy less than the spiritual predecessor to both given the people involved. But it's been a while since I saw them close together.
Which might be growing more common. I don't follow such things closely but it feels like newer cartoons fail to achieve similar fanbases to the previous ones. Which unfortunately might actually be intentional. A popular show, that can be rewatched and enjoyed even after people age out of the targeted age group, while successful also takes away from new shows. Whereas now the aim seems to be more for shows that are consumed and discarded, unlikely to ever really be revisited. In turn this creates work for new show runners, writers, animators etc.
I'm surprised we don't hear more about Cybersix given that the main character was a crossdresser. But I guess when America does something that's when it matters. Brazil or somewhere else doing it aren't important.
I think you're pretty spot on with a lot of the problems with modern cartoons. Everything is trying the same formula of establish rules and then have plot, and boy does everything want to have a fanbase right now.
I think what TV animation needs to take risks with weirder artists. A show like Invader Zim took the fuck off because it exposed a lot of young people to the style of the goth subculture at the time. Nothing else looked like it. A lot of these shows blend together style wise.
yeah that sounds about right
I'm completely unsurprised a series as inherently vapid as TDI is doing a reboot like this, but it is really funny to see that the art style is identical to the first series because that's always the one element that changes in other reboots. TDI can't even be assed to put in enough effort to try out a shitty beanface.
A good decision, for once, but also a really funny one that highlights just how creatively bankrupt this franchise is.
Damn not even Becky Sugar or Ian JQ were this salty when they left CN on bittersweet terms. Or hell that guy who make that peanut pickle show was this butthurt and his show was universally panned! Judging by the design of the Mickey Mouse on her ID, she must have been there a while predating the newer IDs that have the new Mickey Mouse design on there (that stylized New Mickey Mouse Shorts one). She got what she wanted like a Disney Princess and bit the hand once it didn't go her way like a brat. Nice.
Happy trails Terrace. Enjoy one-hit wonderland with your manbitch Hirsch.
I've nothing against TOH or Dana, but it's funny how little influence or lasting impression it had despite being hyped up for years. It didn't even have to deal with shit like CN's love of hiatuses either.
I think it's because it was SU 2.0 and not just because lots of the crew worked on it. Terrace insisted on having Luz be half gay on paper, full gay in practice making it hard to get chinkbux and non-pozzed familybux. It was doing the long narrative thing making it unwatchable for kids to casually pick it up anytime. And again, there was barely any official merchandise! In the end, it "made history" but no money. And the ability to rewatch suffered for it. Shows like Phineas & Ferb and Big City Greens knew what to do and they're still rewatched and reran like crazy.
It didn't bother you because TLOK was a precursor to the divershitty pushes we see now. Arguably korra was the the first "stonk feemail prowtag" that didn't get shoved in your face when the announcement was made. Then slowly it became that way because it kept sucking until they pulled an emergency gay card and have been defending it as "the plan all along, you're just too dumb and homophobic to see it" ever since. Now whenever there's been an ambiguously brown maybe-gay chick, you had to know that first and foremost instead of her story and world she lives in. And thanks to "Velmindy", it's not working anymore.
I've nothing against TOH or Dana, but it's funny how little influence or lasting impression it had despite being hyped up for years. It didn't even have to deal with shit like CN's love of hiatuses either.
Disney also has an obsession for hiatuses, considering DTVA is trying to compete toe-to-toe against CN here. Still doesn't change the fact that Dana and Alex are complete cunts. Shit, at least Daron Nefcy was more chill after her show from Disney had ended, and she's currently working for Nick, for better or worse, as she still has a career.
It’s pretty interesting that they are trying to out-diversify the already diversified Total Drama Island from many years ago. Are they really going to make us ignore that the cartoon was at one point a literal haven for Rule34 artwork?
I highly doubt former DeviantArt/Tumblr users are going to care this much about “gender representation“ when the fanfiction already exists.
It has been nearly 22 years since this was a possibility, and now we seem to be getting it. That’s right, WWTAS is seemingly in production. View attachment 4757530
Judging by the quality of most DC animated shows and/or movies these days, it'll have pretty stiff animation and an art style similar to everything else that came before it.
Judging by the quality of most DC animated shows and/or movies these days, it'll have pretty stiff animation and an art style similar to everything else that came before it.
Judging by the quality of most DC animated shows and/or movies these days, it'll have pretty stiff animation and an art style similar to everything else that came before it.
Someone on 4chan /co/ is already making bets it will be Harley Quinn 2.0 rather than a genuine action series.
Personally, I want this to be good. Diane desperately needs a standardization like BTAS and STAS brought to their heroes. Her series and even characterization fluctuates so rapidly that it is hard to even know what WW is. She has decent villains and side characters, but they just come and go.
I am worried that either this show will be a woke piece or some overly convoluted mess like Young Justice became, probably both.
