Off-Topic When did you hit peak trans and why? - Finally realized that trans activism and gender ideology are harmful.

[Not A Bunny]

All right, I'm going to sperg here...

Spoiler: Just what did they think was going to happen...

Your movement comes off as spoiled, whiny children who demand that every accept not only your identity but every craven and unholy demand that crosses your feeble little minds, and now you have states that are looking to abolish the concepts of trans rights from polite fucking discourse?

You wanted acceptance. You came by it by saying that if we didn't smile and eat shit at the same time no matter how ugly, unsupported and downright dangerous your ideas are, and now suddenly, you're acting like you didn't bring the war to the door of people who just wanted to be left alone?

I don't wish death. I wish you an hour in an anechoic chamber, alone with yourself and your miserable, pathetic thoughts and infantile emotions. I want to see you confront living with yourself rather than making the whole world be caged in with you.

 

[Procrastinhater]

I just wanna say to all my Tomboy Kiwisisters.
Fuck those Troonigger retards.
You be you, Tomboys are the best girls anyway, and every Tomboy who refuses to bow to those shits and use their bullshit "Enby" or whatever made up crap is a slap in the face and a big fuck you to the Cult.
This is why I call it a Cult, they are predatory and agressive, not only to anyone not sufficiently aquainted with their bullshit to give them the benefit of the doubt, but to anyone they identify as possibly being a potential recruit.
Even if their selected target disagrees, they try to wheedle, cajole and if that fails outright bully people into falling into line.
Gimme those hats I don't care.
I'm at the point where I'll string corks off my Top Hat to keep away the flies while I piss on their corpses.
This shit needs to be driven back to the hell it crawled out of.
Its predatory, perverse, aggressive, and manipulative and a fucking danger to the naive, the lonely, and the autistic..
The times coming when I hope we'll see a reconning and when it does we need Nuremberg style tribunals for all the fucking "counsellors" "TRA's" and butcher "surgeons" that pushed this shit for Crimes Against Humanity.
Bunch of fucking freaks.

 

[GunCar Gary]

in the early 2010s when any scrutiny or gatekeeping medical professionals and therapists were allowed to have towards trannies was phased out in favor of fast tracking people to surgeries and drugs, proceeded by GID being removed from the DSM5. magically, a few years later, more and more celebrities and people in the public eye started coming out as trans or "genderqueer" or other cult bullshit reminiscent of scientology spreading like wildfire among narcissistic idiots in the 2000s (and like scientology, there's what seems to be some kind of coordinated effort to take over as many institutions as possible to push their agenda). it's gotten a million times worse in the last few years as covid and TDS fried the critical thinking center of leftists' brains and they've forgotten they need to at least pretend that they're not targeting children

 

[GunCar Gary]

I don't know where to post this so I'm gonna post it here.

Spoiler: Angry tomboy rant

I'm so tired of this bullshit. I, once again, have people in my life questioning my fucking gender. Apparently being a tomboy isn't okay anymore, I HAVE to be a enby or transman. It's unacceptable now to be a woman without liking makeup or dresses. I am a adult female, I'm not even that masculine, I have long hair, I wear woman's clothes, I like men. I don't understand why that's not fucking enough. These fuckers have ruined everything. You have to be a living stereotype to be recognized for your biological sex these days.

Nothing before this has made me want to be feminine, but fuck, I'm thinking I should start wearing makeup and girlier clothes. I'm tired of being repeatedly questioned for something so basic and dismissed as being 'in the closet'. None of the conservatives and traditionalists have ever treated me as shitty as these fucking gender people have. At least the conservatives will acknowledge I'm a woman.


This is the death of tomboys.

I'm so glad I found this site. I'd be fucking alone in this without you guys.

the way you fight back against personality disordered nutjobs, including the alphabet cult, is that you respond "no". that's it. nothing makes a narcissist or borderline angrier than shutting down their attempts to draw you into their insanity. they want you to be on the defensive. they want you to give them some kind of "in" so they can find a chink in your armor. they want you to keep interacting with them because the longer you do the more likely you are to fold

when you shut a narcissist/borderline down it feels to them like you're denying their right to exist. that's not your problem, that's theirs

stay strong. just say no

 

[Fapcop]

Pour one out for the tom girls. Deeply missed. Sad to think that a whole generation of young men won’t ever see one.

And big ups to those out there who resist the call to troon out.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Pour one out for the tom girls. Deeply missed. Sad to think that a whole generation of young men won’t ever see one.

It's getting to the point where any self-described tomgirl is more likely to be a lazy troon than the genuine article.

 

[Fapcop]

It's getting to the point where any self-described tomgirl is more likely to be a lazy troon than the genuine article.

Yup… I still remember when you got genuinely excited over seeing a girl into vidya online.

“Oh cool! A girl who shares some of my interests! Neat!”

Today it’s a big ass warning sign that it’s either a troon or an FTM, and there’s a 100% certainty of BPD.

 

[Vect]

Now tell me fren… Was getting married in a church instead of signing some civil certificate in city hall really worth dealing with these freaks?

No, and I was pushing for pulling back to civil unions when it was unpopular. Rick Santorum was right about the slippery slope. I don’t think a same sex couple is incapable of raising a child, but heterosexuality matters. It is the norm for a reason.

 

[Fapcop]

No, and I was pushing for pulling back to civil unions when it was unpopular. Rick Santorum was right about the slippery slope. I don’t think a same sex couple is incapable of raising a child, but heterosexuality matters. It is the norm for a reason.

Based and reality pilled!

What happened was entirely predictable. Once you have a whole goddamn CIVIL RIGHTS INDUSTRY, they’re not going to just close down and start coffeehouses and gay stamp stores. They’ll just find something else to push as an issue.

 

[Catman from cat town]

Catching up on this thread has made me appreciate my family encouraging and supporting my tomboy ass. When I was a little tomboy, I would get bullied for liking boy things or not dressing up femininely. I’m pretty sure I would still be insecure about myself if it wasn’t for my folks basically telling me it’s normal to be gender non-conforming, I’m still a woman.

 

[LimeRikki]

Sometimes I wonder if all of this isn't the result of parents mistaking enabling behavior for supportive behavior.

Being supportive sometimes means putting your foot down saying no and holding firm to your boundaries and rules. But doing that can feel really shitty sometimes because you're probably going to hurt your kids feelings. But that's part of being a parent, and a kid needs to learn how to deal with those kinds of emotions and responses and consequences.

I'm rambling a bit but I guess what I'm really trying to say is that if a kid goes to their parents and says "i'm uncomfortable with the fact that i'm developing breasts and they make me feel uncomfortable" Parents today are told to affirm them and say yes and let them cut their tits off without having a further discussion about it. Which is enabling.

Actual support would be having a discussion with your kid and talking about how sometimes discomfort is normal during puberty, in fact it's really normal. And that discomfort is an emotion that people are going to experience in their lives, and it's important to learn how to deal with that because it's going to be a lot easier to learn to deal with discomfort when you're a teenager, and have the safety net of your parents, vs adulthood where you may have to face that on your own.

Parents need to start parenting again, and that means saying no.

 

[Fapcop]

Sometimes I wonder if all of this isn't the result of parents mistaking enabling behavior for supportive behavior.

Being supportive sometimes means putting your foot down saying no and holding firm to your boundaries and rules. But doing that can feel really shitty sometimes because you're probably going to hurt your kids feelings. But that's part of being a parent, and a kid needs to learn how to deal with those kinds of emotions and responses and consequences.

I'm rambling a bit but I guess what I'm really trying to say is that if a kid goes to their parents and says "i'm uncomfortable with the fact that i'm developing breasts and they make me feel uncomfortable" Parents today are told to affirm them and say yes and let them cut their tits off without having a further discussion about it. Which is enabling.

Actual support would be having a discussion with your kid and talking about how sometimes discomfort is normal during puberty, in fact it's really normal. And that discomfort is an emotion that people are going to experience in their lives, and it's important to learn how to deal with that because it's going to be a lot easier to learn to deal with discomfort when you're a teenager, and have the safety net of your parents, vs adulthood where you may have to face that on your own.

Parents need to start parenting again, and that means saying no.

It’s the old Chris Chan lesson about parenting. Kid is lonely? Well, you could go out and pay some kids to spend time with him. Or you could teach your kid about how to get friends and how to manage feelings like loneliness.

If your kid comes and complains about how they don’t like having breasts, the worst fucking thing is to “be affirmative” and indulge their fantasies.

A parent should try to find out what’s at the bottom of those feelings, and teach their daughter how to manage them.

One of the most important lessons for a small child is loss: That sometimes things happen that you can’t change no matter what.

Seems like that’s a lesson a lot of troons never learned. Sorry, you can’t be the other sec, no matter how unfair you think it is.

 

[Where's Waldo?]

Twitter thread (archive) where people shared what peaked them
View attachment 4716196

Lol, "Have a look cis people, these are the enemies of trans equality and dignity"

So self-centered.
Instead of addressing anyone else's concerns, they just get mad at you for not supporting them enough.

Raped by a troon?
WELL YOU BETTER NOT BE TRANSPHOBIC AFTER IT!!!!!!!
Even though some¹ of the same people might be understanding if a woman was scared of men after being raped by a man.
but give that man some eyeliner² and suddenly it turns into a culture-war where people who you would expect to be reasonable just turn into rapist-defenders. It's completely insane.

and yeah, I understand some of their "not like other men" schtick, but then those 'other men' also troon out.
or maybe they're all shitty, and anyone who says they're "totally not like other people" is really the epitome of what they say they hate. I don't know. That happens occasionally.
Sometimes the outward signifiers are different, but their hearts may be the same.

¹ not all of these people really are as compassionate as they say they are.
They might not actually respect it if a woman is scared of men, but they know its 'popular feminist discourse' to accept that. They just wait for the right 'socially acceptable thing' to come along to express their true feelings and then they latch onto it.

To be clear, I don't think it's morally right or wrong to be scared of guys. I think it's a thing that just happens to some people.
Some people are, but they don't want to be.

² oh wait, I forgot its bigoted to imply that any one thing makes someone a tranny. You should go up to every hulking 6'4" man in the bar and ask him his pronouns just to make sure he isn't secretly a woman, in his mind.
If you get punched, you should lecture him for 45 minutes on the sanctity of gender identity.

ANYONE COULD BE TRANS! WE ARE ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL AROUND YOU!

What peak-transed me was realizing that, in reality, a lot of the same people who will make a big conflagration on their social media pages about how "TRANNERS ARE TEH BEST! CISSIES SUCK BALLSACKS!" actually are just normal, greedy human beings who aren't at all altruistic towards their fellow trannies unless they think it will benefit them.
Online, if someone is a tranny but doesn't make it freely-known, then these entitled shitheads will spit fury at them for any minor disagreements, until that person mentions, "um, but I am trans. I'm not cisgender, why are you assuming that I am?"

and then the freaks will act like, "oh, but you're not the right kind of tranny. you're not ideological enough."
So it's not really about gender or anything at all. It's just about having "my club versus YOUR CLUB" and if you're a tranny but you disagree with me you're part of THE EVIL CIS CLUB.

It just reminds me of the Party in 1984.
The Party members are the ones towing the line and throwing all the hurrah everywhere, but any little unconscious step out of the rhythm from any one of them means that THAT PERSON IS FUCKING EVIL! THEY DESERVE TO BE KILLED!

"Zeal is not enough; orthodoxy is unconscious."

It can happen to any one. If you think that you are too smart to ever fall out of line, then Big Brother is looking for you. He sees into your heart. He knows what you are thinking. He knows the private grievances that you keep to yourself, (or even keep from yourself).
He sees everything on the other side of the schism in your mind. Your only hope is to get out of the Party.

The Party's maxims are changing all the time. It is the perpetual building (and simultaneous destruction) of Theseus's ship.
What was once an orthodox commandment is now a symbol of traitorism. It will carry on perpetually. The only thing you can control is yourself.
What do you want to do with your life? You only have so long.

I really ❤ kiwifarms because you guys archive everything.
So someone says, "lmao, I never said that, no one would ever say that. What are you, crazy? We have always been at war with Eurasia."

It's funny going back and reading the forum-posts from like 2013 when this whole crazy ideology was first starting to spread rapidly. There's so many thoughtful refutations that have been made. People have been thoughtful forever. Nothing has changed.
The world ends not with a bang, but a whimper.

 

[barbieQ]

Sometimes I wonder if all of this isn't the result of parents mistaking enabling behavior for supportive behavior.

Being supportive sometimes means putting your foot down saying no and holding firm to your boundaries and rules. But doing that can feel really shitty sometimes because you're probably going to hurt your kids feelings. But that's part of being a parent, and a kid needs to learn how to deal with those kinds of emotions and responses and consequences.

I'm rambling a bit but I guess what I'm really trying to say is that if a kid goes to their parents and says "i'm uncomfortable with the fact that i'm developing breasts and they make me feel uncomfortable" Parents today are told to affirm them and say yes and let them cut their tits off without having a further discussion about it. Which is enabling.

Actual support would be having a discussion with your kid and talking about how sometimes discomfort is normal during puberty, in fact it's really normal. And that discomfort is an emotion that people are going to experience in their lives, and it's important to learn how to deal with that because it's going to be a lot easier to learn to deal with discomfort when you're a teenager, and have the safety net of your parents, vs adulthood where you may have to face that on your own.

Parents need to start parenting again, and that means saying no.

When I was around 15 I told my parents I was trans and they pretty much said "You're a girl, you're just not girly." and told me to shut up.

Spoiler: TMI

I'd been spending a lot of time on Tumblr, mostly fandom stuff at first, but you couldn't even stay in those circles without trans shit eventually creeping in. I was a tomboy growing up and deep into my "Not like other girls" phase, so I took me not being into stereotypically feminine things as a sign that I wasn't meant to be a girl at all, which wasn't helped by people I was interacting with constantly hyping my dumb ass up. I was mad at my parents for a while, but eventually I got over it. Imagine that. Now I'm way more feminine and very comfortably a woman.

Looking back at it now the number of grown ass adults telling my teenage self that I was definitely a boy is creepy af.

 

[SpiderBitch]

Had to live with one.
The sperging from the public about Rowling was already eh when the tweets themselves were absolutely milquetoast, but having to hear constant sperging about her being 'a nazi' for saying that sex is real whenever something with Harry Potter happened or just randomly truly peaked me.
Also, the 'they're more at risk than cis women' being just a straight up fucking lie that all of them repeat either mindlessly or maliciously.

Also just a lot of factual information I got from here, very ironically I was led here by an ftm and an enbie who used it to get dirt on yandere dev a year before him being a creep became general public knowledge.

I was a borderline TRA and even questioning before this, but having to spend real-life and online time with trannies, especially mtf transbians, instead of just watching a few ftm from a distance (and still lowkey considering them girls) made me change my mind.

Spoiler: TMI

If I had tried to troon out, my parents probably would've been supportive, and I would've been a mutilated unhappy gaiden unselfaware that trooning out was only making issues worse, not better, and even if self aware the damage could not fully be undone.
All because I was an undiagnosed female retard who liked homestuck gay boys and needed time to adjust to the changes from puberty.

 

[Fapcop]

Not sure if this is off topic or not, but it sure sounds like this kid was just peaked… HARD!



Kid had recently been suicidal, so great timing by tranny daddy.



“They feel like our child is taking their happiest away…”

You can always trust a tranny to be selfless and put others first!

 

[LimeRikki]

"I was a tomboy and I hated girly stuff but now as an adult. I'm comfortable as a woman and I am relatively feminine" is a sentiment i've heard not only on the farms, But also out in a real world where this topic comes up occasionally.

And to me that indicates that desistence is real and relatively common.

Most gnc kids are just that, a kid that's a little bit gender non conforming. To me it would make more sense for a parent to accept their kid as being gnc rather than trying to change them to make their behavior fit the stereotype. Isn't that the opposite of accepting?

 

[KiwiFuzz]

Stray thought:

It seems obvious to me that being an FtM is in the same pile as anorexia, cutting, and so forth.

One thing that just floated across my brain is that it's a socially acceptable way for a young woman to be angry all the time. Or like a way to externalize some of the anger.

I was just reading the "taking the L" thread and when a normal woman goes to a bar and gets rejected, that's usually going to result in turning anger inwards, but these people... "Every single person at the bar is a hater and a transphobe and fuck all of them."

I'm surprised we've only seen the one FtM school shooter.

 

[one_time_user]

Not sure if this is off topic or not, but it sure sounds like this kid was just peaked… HARD!

View attachment 4761892

Kid had recently been suicidal, so great timing by tranny daddy.
View attachment 4761898

View attachment 4761894
“They feel like our child is taking their happiest away…”

You can always trust a tranny to be selfless and put others first!

That entire family is a fucking mess. Mom's bipolar, so is teen kid, younger sister has a sensory processing disorder and startles/screams, mom was raised by grandfather and mom is fully supportive of trans. nothing good is coming from that mess.

 

[Fapcop]

That entire family is a fucking mess. Mom's bipolar, so is teen kid, younger sister has a sensory processing disorder and startles/screams, mom was raised by grandfather and mom is fully supportive of trans. nothing good is coming from that mess.

Jesus Christ! You keep track of them?

No wonder the guy decided to fly through trooning out. You see this quite a bit with some of the MTFs. Serious life change like a child or marriage or a medical diagnosis and they decide to troon out as a bizarro narc way of escaping the situation.