Off-Topic When did you hit peak trans and why? - Finally realized that trans activism and gender ideology are harmful.

[gay porn is the best porn]

I used to know (online) a TiM who claimed to have been "fully transitioned" since the 90s.

I'd hardly count him as fully transitioned if he got that shit done in the 90s, even considering how bad it is today, those trannys would put all kinds of shit into their bodies back in the day. IIRC it wasn't all that rare for some to put artificial materials like plaster and insulation foam in themselves in the 60s and 70s.
Speaking of older trannys, what was that one story of a tranny who had a sex change in the 1930s or 1940s?

 

[Glory To Arztotska]

IIRC it wasn't all that rare for some to put artificial materials like plaster and insulation foam in themselves in the 60s and 70s.

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[Pluciferous]

IIRC it wasn't all that rare for some to put artificial materials like plaster and insulation foam in themselves in the 60s and 70s.

Is that where the term “drywall” comes from? Some construction guy who drunkenly fucked a tranny’s axe wound and said “damn those are some dry walls”?

 

[Not A Cat Person]

pedophiles aren't picky about a childs gender but rather the dynamic between them

I don't know that I believe this, necessarily. There are some pedophiles into little girls and some into little boys.
In the same way, there are some serial killers that target men (John Wayne Gacy, Jeffrey Dahmer), and some that target women (Ted Bundy, Richard Cottingham). But in both cases they tend to have a preference.
Although, I'm sure, there are plenty that are less discriminating.

 

[Commander Suzdal]

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I don't know about plaster and insulation foam, but as early as 2001, people were dying from injecting industrial silicone or Superglue mixed with Fix-A-Flat as an alternative to feminizing surgeries. (The injecters and injectees were mostly FTMs, but the Superglue/tire sealant death was an actual grandmother in her 50s.) This 2019 NPR article mentions that it's basically caulk, sometimes cut with transmission fluid, olive oil, or paraffin. (BTW, in that article NPR says that the real problem here is that "black and brown" trans women aren't getting "culturally competent care", so insurance needs to pay for their hormones and facial feminization surgery.)

Here's satisfied customer turned silicone pumper Oneal Ron "Duchess" Morris, who accepted a plea bargain for killing the grandmother.

 

[thejackal2]

The tide has turned, even in local Democratic politics imo. People are getting really sick and tired of troons making their ridiculous overblown concerns the center of any political debate, especially vis a vis MAGA. People are realizing that when they screech about "trans rights" what they really mean is to insert themselves into women's spaces and act a fool swinging their dicks around without repercussions.

 

[SenseDemons]

Like another user very early in the thread, I peaked in the early 2000s when I discovered how easy it is to access all this shit, and how open and honest the doctors were that they had no idea what the fuck they were doing.

I never had dysphoria, but my life situation was horrific, and I was a retarded sixteen year old who thought if I could be hideous enough that it would stop happening. Despite a shit-life-syndrome dossier a mile thick and a recent PTSD diagnosis, no doctors or psychiatrists ever bothered to get to the bottom of why I wanted to pretend to be male, and they just helped me along.

20+ years on now... I just live my life as the butch lesbian that my rapists tried to 'fix' me of being. People are free to assume whatever they like or call me whatever as it doesn't bother me either way, and I just let my body do whatever it wants without hormones.

The bonus is that it really triggers the fuck out of the local kweers. The young FTMs get angry about me being open about the malpractice, the MTFs get triggered that I'm a dyke who won't suck girlcock, and the NBs get triggered because I've made remarks about how I'm biologically female and 'vibes' or 'fashion' doesn't change that.

They all need external validation 24/7 and anyone who doesn't live like that makes them have an insecure tantrum. Just existing and being comfortable despite it all is enough to piss them off.

I also trigger the fuck out of them because I am critical of SRS and call out lazy-ass fake-commie fake-activist bullshit but I always couch it in PC language and delicate disclaimers, so they can't cancel me about it publicly with normies and can only seethe in their discord hugbox.

Every time they fuck around more, they have another blowup and lose another person, and that person gets shunned socially over it.

The whole thing reminds me of Scientologists.

But the biggest peak moment was finding out a couple years back that one of my rapists trooned out and is a stunning and brave woman. I wish him a million dick chops.

 

[toilet_rainbow]

I'd hardly count him as fully transitioned if he got that shit done in the 90s, even considering how bad it is today, those trannys would put all kinds of shit into their bodies back in the day. IIRC it wasn't all that rare for some to put artificial materials like plaster and insulation foam in themselves in the 60s and 70s.
Speaking of older trannys, what was that one story of a tranny who had a sex change in the 1930s or 1940s?

I don't know about plaster and insulation foam, but as early as 2001, people were dying from injecting industrial silicone or Superglue mixed with Fix-A-Flat as an alternative to feminizing surgeries. (The injecters and injectees were mostly FTMs, but the Superglue/tire sealant death was an actual grandmother in her 50s.) This 2019 NPR article mentions that it's basically caulk, sometimes cut with transmission fluid, olive oil, or paraffin. (BTW, in that article NPR says that the real problem here is that "black and brown" trans women aren't getting "culturally competent care", so insurance needs to pay for their hormones and facial feminization surgery.)

Here's satisfied customer turned silicone pumper Oneal Ron "Duchess" Morris, who accepted a plea bargain for killing the grandmother.

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There was also that MTF on Botched who had concrete injected into his face.

Back alley butt injections are also popular in some troon communities (particularly black and Hispanic MTFs). Quite a few deaths from embolisms or other reactions from having the wrong type of silicone in you. If plaster was involved at least once, I wouldn’t be shocked at this rate.

I do wonder how much of this has fallen out in favor of DIY HRT (which was another peak for me in itself).

As for the 1930s troon @gay porn is the best porn, I think you’re thinking of Lili Elbe?

There were a couple others that got the chop or a rotdog between the 1930s-50s but he was one of the very very first (and died after attempting to have a uterus implanted in him).

 

[Aunt Carol]

Back alley butt injections

Are we not doing "phrasing?"

 

[bouquetnine]

Are we not doing "phrasing?"

One type involves injecting unknown substances that can cause serious harm and the other type involves injecting AIDS.

They're not all that different.

 

[⋖ cørdion ⋗]

Used this one forum for years when I was a young teen, basically a glorified, shared diary. Recently I went back and saw people are still using it, but since it's primarily tumblr-adjacent women, it's all sex, parties and sadly quite a few troons. F2M that is, making it even worse. One just wrote about how she came out as trans and was going into treatment etc, "and my hallucinations and schizophrenia hasn't been as severe as of late". I just.. fucking hell. How about treating the symptoms you've had for years instead of immediately jumping the gun on your newest badge of mental unhealth? Worst part is you can't even wish death onto these people cause troondom is even worse, yet also tears at the soul.

It's like le heckin killing curse: You achieve the desired result but at cost of your humanity.

 

[Paleolithic Nigga]

I don't have an exact year for my peak, it felt more like a gradual process. Being a terminally online sperg as a teenager got me hanging out with plenty of troons, so I used to go along with their bullshit, to the point where I even thought about the possibility of being trans myself at one point.

I think it was the overall whiny, self centered and disgusting attitude they usually have that started driving me away, especially how hyper sexual most of them are. They can barely talk about anything other than sex, troonslop or wanting to join the 41%, and God forbid you disagree with some "we should use taxpayer money to groom minors into becoming troons!" opinion, or you'll be crucified for it.

Their whole lifestyle usually consists of the most unhealthy shit imaginable, like poor hygiene, social isolation (self inflicted 99% of the time), drug abuse, shitty diets, or lack of exercise and sleep, but they'll insist their unhappiness stems from a vaguely described dysphoria that'll be magically fixed if they fuck up their bodies even further with mutilation and horse piss hormones.

I hate how common this shit has become and how it infests discussions, relationships, communities, hobbies, etc. They ruin everything they touch, like if they were Midas with a shitty touch.

I wouldn't even mind them if they stayed in their own corners and didn't bother anyone, but they always have to make sure they take their unwashed, unemployed asses where nobody asked for them.

 

[BIG SHOT Autos]

Speaking of older trannys, what was that one story of a tranny who had a sex change in the 1930s or 1940s?

Lili Elbe?

 

[FierceBrosnan]

Tl;dr: Jesus Christ

I hate that you went through all that, but I'm glad your abuser has become a victim of their own stupidity.

 

[Pervbashing]

I don't have an exact year for my peak, it felt more like a gradual process. Being a terminally online sperg as a teenager got me hanging out with plenty of troons, so I used to go along with their bullshit, to the point where I even thought about the possibility of being trans myself at one point.

I think it was the overall whiny, self centered and disgusting attitude they usually have that started driving me away, especially how hyper sexual most of them are. They can barely talk about anything other than sex, troonslop or wanting to join the 41%, and God forbid you disagree with some "we should use taxpayer money to groom minors into becoming troons!" opinion, or you'll be crucified for it.

Their whole lifestyle usually consists of the most unhealthy shit imaginable, like poor hygiene, social isolation (self inflicted 99% of the time), drug abuse, shitty diets, or lack of exercise and sleep, but they'll insist their unhappiness stems from a vaguely described dysphoria that'll be magically fixed if they fuck up their bodies even further with mutilation and horse piss hormones.

I hate how common this shit has become and how it infests discussions, relationships, communities, hobbies, etc. They ruin everything they touch, like if they were Midas with a shitty touch.

I wouldn't even mind them if they stayed in their own corners and didn't bother anyone, but they always have to make sure they take their unwashed, unemployed asses where nobody asked for them.

Same here. I had a LOT of trans friends for about a decade, starting in my teens. I ignored a lot of warning signs as a very GNC, queer woman who, like most actual women, was conditioned to just accept shit and not be too confrontational, give the benefit of the doubt etc.

It was slow at first, every time I'd mention how some mutual TiM friend acted disgusting and creepy they'd be like 'well we're all hypersexual bc trauma soo' (later found out most of them watch or consume pornographic content like several times a day every day.. is the trauma in the room with us?) and basically just enabling this person until he inevitably was caught trying to groom a young teenager. Couldn't help but notice that in my mostly TiM friend group (I know lmao) the gay ones were MUCH closer to looking, acting and overall just passing as a woman and were not actively unpleasant to be around, whereas a good deal of the 'transbians' were basically indistinguishable from porn-addicted, deeply sexist and perpetually malding incels. Great drugs at the parties, but I also kept noticing that NONE of the transbians knew how to do their own makeup and when I tried to explain some stuff to them about this or help them, it was clear they'd never made so much as a single effort to try and learn 90% of the shit that would help them assimilate in women's spaces or just... appear to be women. Nope, only the parts that are fappable are interesting to them like putting on a skirt and heels despite most women not wearing shit like that outside of porn made by straight men (who would've thought) or taking a pill to get tits. For all the 'protect trans kids' shit they spout I was the only person at the parties in question keeping tabs on the sheltered teens and making sure they weren't going to OD on the shit just lying around or drink until they hurled. figures that the only actual woman there is the default 'mom'.

The HSTS ones at least bother with cooking and cleaning, but the more I got to know the straight ones I realized they're kind of just.. exactly like the worst kind of socially maladjusted, thinly-veiled raging sexist online men I'd come to recognize at that point in my life. One I knew pre trans, after it he became even more angry and prone to explosive outbursts, and I had to cut him off after he straight up screamed at me for using his old paypal bc it had his deadname. That plus him being super upfront about the fact that he collected teens/young men on grindr to get them to take estrogen, I put two and two together that this was really just a fetish first and foremost, and that most of them had zero interest in hanging out with women they didn't find sexually attractive and all the feminist shit they spout was just about them, that misogyny otherwise was either not as bad or some variant of 'foids always overract,' like a fucking groyper in a different font. Literally everything in their life had to serve their sexual gratification, or they wouldn't waste a single second thinking about it.

I now know these freaks are just neckbeards who don't feel shame, and their jealousy of actual women dials up their sexism to a 10, so they're actually WORSE than the run of the mill neckbeard since they weaponize progressive language to heavily obfuscate their deep-seated, vitriolic hatred of women. I have a few friends left from that group I'm trying to salvage bc they seem the most well adjusted (the HSTS ones ofc) but the latent narcissism is just... deeply unsettling, and I can't unsee it anymore.

 

[Starefag]

For me, it was this gradual transition (Heh) from a casual "live and let live" idea. To doubt. Sadness. And finally pity. For context, I grew up around progressives. Got a bit righty, settled on being mostly Libertarian. (Long story short. I enjoy personal freedom. But think healthcare is a human right)

It starts around 2020, where I notice the weirdly sexual posts during pandemic from that crowd. I'm not really a stranger to hornyposting, but being inside more often made it really apparent that these people had a weird need to constantly broadcast their sexual lives. It was offputting. But I've known some people in that camp who were childhood friends. So I held onto a sort of passive 'shrug my shoulders and let them have fun' idea. Because I've found that it's fucking exhausting to do anything to remain frothingly mad at some people for long.

The second set of eyebrow raises was when the r/Detrans subreddit was being called out as a hatesub. Back when I still actually browsed. It struck me as odd, especially when I looked in there myself and just saw people who were trying to be happy, still mostly left-wing. And just talking about how the whole process wasn't right for them. And how they were happy to be alive. It was really strange, because on my end, these posters just looked like people who gave it an honest try, but didn't like it. How can you fault someone for that? Would you rather them just be miserable and repressing themselves still? How is that better than forcing you to not Troon?

The third, and final strike. Was actually from a couple things. First, I found the 'How the Sausage is made" video Jim made. And how people that actually go through the operations have to deal with lifelong pain. The second was around the same time the string of trans lolcows and scandals that came out. Kris Tyson, Keffals, Goonclown. One after the other.
I can't say I hate them. Hating people just isn't in me. But I feel this lump of pity and disgust whenever I see one, or talk to my old friends. (Thankfully none of them are the gooncrazy AGP type.)

TL;DR Erosion

 

[Polexia Aphrodisia]

the gay ones were MUCH closer to looking, acting and overall just passing as a woman and were not actively unpleasant to be around

This is why I'm not as bothered by gay MTFs. It seems like mostly a lot of internalized homophobia. While I'm sure that a motivating factor is also the desire to have gay sex with a straight man, I honestly don't really give much of a shit about that. I'm sure I'd feel differently if I was a straight man.

 

[Dolly Brooks]

This is why I'm not as bothered by gay MTFs. It seems like mostly a lot of internalized homophobia. While I'm sure that a motivating factor is also the desire to have gay sex with a straight man, I honestly don't really give much of a shit about that. I'm sure I'd feel differently if I was a straight man.

Yeah, I don’t hate them as much after reading a lot of their posts (except the ones who try to stealth straight men, that’s rape.) They seem to hate themselves and anyone like them more than anyone else. “CAN YOU BELIEVE MY FUCKING FAGGOT BOYFRIEND CAME OUT AS TRANS TODAY, I CAN’T BELIEVE THIS HAPPENED TO ME AGAIN.” I feel like Godzilla backing away from Haiti.