How Biden's New Washing Machine Regulations Could Ruin Laundry Day - They're waging a war on all appliances, not just gas stoves

Manufacturers say government climate change initiative would make your washing cycles longer, clothes dirtier​

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Collin Anderson
March 13, 2023

When Cincinnati firefighter Ed Wallace bought a high efficiency Whirlpool washing machine, he came to regret the decision almost immediately. The machine used less water—not enough to clean Wallace's work clothes—and his colleagues at the firehouse quickly took notice. "I walked past my guys and they say, 'Dude, you stink!'" Wallace said. "I smelled myself, and yeah, that's me stinking."

Now, President Joe Biden is pushing regulations that could force Wallace's stinky situation upon millions of Americans.

Biden's Energy Department last month proposed new efficiency standards for washing machines that would require new appliances to use considerably less water, all in an effort to "confront the global climate crisis." Those mandates would force manufacturers to reduce cleaning performance to ensure their machines comply, leading industry giants such as Whirlpool said in public comments on the rule. They'll also make the appliances more expensive and laundry day a headache—each cycle will take longer, the detergent will cost more, and in the end, the clothes will be less clean, the manufacturers say.

The proposed washing machine rule marks the latest example of the administration turning to consumer regulations to advance its climate change goals. Last month, the Energy Department published an analysis of its proposed cooking appliance efficiency regulations, which it found would effectively ban half of all gas stoves on the U.S. market from being sold. The department has also proposed new efficiency standards for refrigerators, which could come into effect in 2027. "Collectively these energy efficiency actions … support President Biden's ambitious clean energy agenda to combat the climate crisis," the Energy Department said in February.

While the Energy Department—which did not return a request for comment—acknowledged in its proposal that "maintaining acceptable cleaning performance can be more difficult as energy and water levels are reduced," it expressed confidence that Whirlpool and other appliance manufacturers can comply with its regulations without sacrificing stain removal and other performance standards. For the Heritage Foundation's Travis Fisher, however, manufacturer concerns over the proposal are justified.

"When you're squeezing all you can out of the efficiency in terms of electricity use and water … you by definition either make the appliance worse or slower," said Fisher, who serves as a senior research fellow at the foundation's Center for Energy, Climate, and Environment. "Why are we so focused on the energy output, as opposed to if it's helping me wash my clothes? That standard has kind of gone off the rails."

Beyond the performance standard debate, the Association of Home Appliance Manufacturers argued that the Energy Department's washing machine regulations "would have a disproportionate, negative impact on low-income households" by eliminating cheaper appliances from the market. The Energy Department estimates that manufacturers will incur nearly $700 million in conversion costs to transition to the new machines.

The department countered concerns over higher appliance prices by arguing in its proposal that consumers will ultimately save money under the regulations through lower energy and water bills. Still, those estimated savings won't apply to all consumers, roughly a quarter of whom "would experience a net cost" thanks to the efficiency rule, according to the Energy Department's proposal.

The Energy Department is required to conduct efficiency standard reviews every six years under the Energy Policy and Conservation Act, which Congress enacted in 1975, two years after an Arab oil embargo inflated gas prices in the United States. The Clinton administration subsequently established the country's first washing machine energy and water efficiency standards in 2001, just before former president George W. Bush took office. Those standards led to "ruined laundry, ongoing maintenance, and service calls," prompting Whirlpool to release a cleaning product "specifically designed to address moldy washing machines," according to George Washington University's Sofie Miller.

The debacle has not stopped the Biden administration from moving forward with more stringent appliance energy efficiency standards, which have not been updated for washing machines since 2012. The tightening of those standards "could put performance at risk" but is unlikely to provide "meaningful energy savings," the Association of Home Appliance Manufacturers says, because most appliances covered under the Energy Policy and Conservation Act "now operate at peak efficiency."

"They keep tightening the standards, and I'm not sure their reasoning makes sense anymore," Fisher told the Washington Free Beacon.

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Oh boy. The climate agenda entails not only severely reduced travel, summers without AC, and winters without heat and fire, but now we gotta get used to ourselves and others smelling like shit as well? What next?

>make new machines use less water to save water
>new machines don't clean clothes properly
>people wash clothes twice or wash in twice as many loads to compensate using twice as much water

Yup sure sounds like a smart idea to me.
Coming from the same people who think we should get rid of the combustible engine and have only electric vehicles...which like the combustible also runs on a form of fossil fuel (coal.) With nuclear power that wouldn't be so pointless...but muh Chernobyl...
 
>make new machines use less water to save water
>new machines don't clean clothes properly
>people wash clothes twice or wash in twice as many loads to compensate using twice as much water

Yup sure sounds like a smart idea to me.
Leftist thinking summed up in general. They are too stupid to think more than one step ahead and look out how an idea would play out or see the big picture.

Their thought process is literally;

"Oh this uses less water so it saves water"

And stops there. It doesnt go any further than that.
 
Already sperged about it another thread; but was in Home Depot just looking around, a washer/dryer combo, one of the talking points on the card was something like "Firmware updates through Wi-Fi." Just in case big brother thinks you're washing your clothes a bit too much or whatever.

Reminds me of the King of the Hill episode where Hank showed the new toilets wasted more water by being inefficient. If I have to wash my clothes twice to get them clean, I've spent more on water and electricity than if I just had a normal washer/dryer
This too. Firefighter Ed Wallace is having a Peggy Hill needs to flush more than once moment.
 
I fucking hate my HE washing machine. I can't get a proper wash done with more than half the drum loaded and I still have to toss the clothes and run a rinse cycle just to get that gummy soap-y texture off of the wash.
I probably spend more time over-washing my clothes and trying to dry them out than I would if the old bat who owned this place before me had bought a normal washing machine.
 
It's not like the Government is forcing consumers at gunpoint to buy a brand new washing machine. Just keep using your current machine until it craps out, then consider whether or not you want to buy one of these new high-falutin' machines, fix your old one* (assuming your machine that's economically viable to repair) or buy a used machine from Craigslist.

* IMHO the repairability aspect is an important yet overlooked way of being more environmentally friendly but that's a whole other story
 
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Are we trying to recreate the great depression? Take away all the jobs, put the banks out of business, take away cars, blow up the food factories, get rid of electricity and water.

But at least it will stop global warming which is scientifically proven to be a natural occurrence and humans have little to no impact on it.
 
I'm not sure what the fuss is about tbh. It's not like the Government is forcing consumers at gunpoint to buy a brand new washing machine. Just keep using your current machine until it craps out, then consider whether or not you want to buy one of these new high-falutin' machines, fix your old one (assuming your machine that's economically viable to repair) or buy a used machine from Craigslist.
They're not forcing you, yet, and with how things are going; they're gonna raise the rate of utilities to start pricing people out, and if that doesn't go hard enough; I could see certain states (like California) do some sort of fucking audit/force of buying new stuff. Like California only allows low-flow toilets and faucets to be sold; sure your older stuff is grandfathered in, but they are slowly phasing shit out. And if you do certain renovations to your house, especially the kind that require permits, you can't reuse the old style, they require shit to be replaced. Just because it's not instant tyranny, doesn't mean it won't lead it to.

 
I'm not sure what the fuss is about tbh. It's not like the Government is forcing consumers at gunpoint to buy a brand new washing machine. Just keep using your current machine until it craps out, then consider whether or not you want to buy one of these new high-falutin' machines, fix your old one (assuming your machine that's economically viable to repair) or buy a used machine from Craigslist.

You can also stick to handwashing some items to lighten the load in the washer. Years ago I had to handwash everything so I'm pretty good at it. But it is time consuming and that's a necessity thing. But putting aside the most delicate, unstained stuff for handwashing uses less water and is easier on those kinds of clothes.
 
Already sperged about it another thread; but was in Home Depot just looking around, a washer/dryer combo, one of the talking points on the card was something like "Firmware updates through Wi-Fi." Just in case big brother thinks you're washing your clothes a bit too much or whatever.


This too. Firefighter Ed Wallace is having a Peggy Hill needs to flush more than once moment.
You should see the new 'energy efficient' heat pump water heaters. It has a built in wifi module with an accompanying app. The app gives lets you control the water heater, tracks your energy usage and shit like that. It's also constantly connected to the manufacturer and is completely manually overrideable by them. With the one I seen, the water was still lukewarm 5+ hours after being on in 'energy saving' mode set to 125° after being installed. It has a backup electric coil, but they use more energy than the high efficiency gas hot water tank he replaced with that thing.

There are air to water heat pumps that work faster. There's some that can heat up a 50 gallon tank to 120° in like 10 minutes. But they require a 96000 btu commercial compressor that runs on 3 phase AC. Running 240 through a 3 phase converter requires an 80 amp breaker. When the compressor's running full tilt it can draw up to 60 amps. On average it draws about 15-30 amps.

Which means it's spiking at around 14kW and using 3.6kW- 7.2kW on average. Electric water heater elements are usually 4500W. So, on average, it's going to be the same or worse on electricity as a standard electric tank and way less efficient than the gas boiler that particular system replaced.
 
If we live in such a "global climate crisis", why do the rich still live by the ocean? Wouldn't it make more sense to live more inland to be protected from storms? If we're only X number of days / months / years from a point of no return, why do the rich still fly everywhere with 80 bodyguards and drive giant ICE SUVs? They could save on carbon and energy by having meetings in zoom and/or encourage rapid development of VR tech.

Because its all a bunch of bullshit. The elites want to rule over everyone with an iron fist. They want to control every aspect of everyone else's lives, forever.

Are we trying to recreate the great depression? Take away all the jobs, put the banks out of business, take away cars, blow up the food factories, get rid of electricity and water.

But at least it will stop global warming which is scientifically proven to be a natural occurrence and humans have little to no impact on it.
They're trying to usher in the great reset.

Live in a pod
Eat the bugs
Have social credit score
You'll Own Nothing but be happy

While the elites live like jet setters in the 60s.
 
You should see the new 'energy efficient' heat pump water heaters. It has a built in wifi module with an accompanying app. The app gives lets you control the water heater, tracks your energy usage and shit like that. It's also constantly connected to the manufacturer and is completely manually overrideable by them. With the one I seen, the water was still lukewarm 5+ hours after being on in 'energy saving' mode set to 125° after being installed. It has a backup electric coil, but they use more energy than the high efficiency gas hot water tank he replaced with that thing.

There are air to water heat pumps that work faster. There's some that can heat up a 50 gallon tank to 120° in like 10 minutes. But they require a 96000 btu commercial compressor that runs on 3 phase AC. Running 240 through a 3 phase converter requires an 80 amp breaker. When the compressor's running full tilt it can draw up to 60 amps. On average it draws about 15-30 amps.

Which means it's spiking at around 14kW and using 3.6kW- 7.2kW on average. Electric water heater elements are usually 4500W. So, on average, it's going to be the same or worse on electricity as a standard electric tank and way less efficient than the gas boiler that particular system replaced.
I'm not a fan of most gas appliances (bad experience with a stove, didn't explode and I wasn't fucking around, just bad memory); but I'll take a gas water heater over any of the other options; especially the electric tankless ones. Even if it works as advertised; you're telling me this device is gonna turn air temperature water hot without much of a tank heating solution? Okay, so that's some amazing energy transfer... just how much juice runs through this thing to accomplish that?

And God forbid you live a little too far north, and it's winter, and the electricity goes out.
 
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