Ukrainian Defensive War against the Russian Invasion - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[Ghostse]

Check the calendar. It was 20C yesterday and I prepared my garden for the spring. If you want to do concern shilling right mention the high energy cost of the European economy what are indeed a serious problem as of right now. At least in Germany.

General Winter fucking Russia by taking a break this year cannot be overstated.

Russian S&R radio bands were chattering, I think the Su-27 went into the water.

That could be Russians looking to get their hands on the MQ-9 wreckage tbf.

 

[Disheveled-Human]

Whether you love or hate the globohomo they really can put up a fight when they want to. I think the Z fags think because a gang of free countries otherwise known as "The West" which allows gays, troons and the right to criticize their governments mean that they are weak. Big misplay to assume such things. Even if they take Bakhmut tomorrow they still need to secure the zone which would be at least hitting the 2 month period and that being the only forward pressure Russia is really pushing is weak as fuck. At the start of the war they were doing a trident attack from north, east and south now they are just trying to peg a city from the south where they are strongest. Russia will have fun having to rebuild all their equipment and vehicles.

 

[Jewthulhu]

Russia will have fun having to rebuild all there equipment and vehicles.

I'm curious as to how they'll rebuild after this. They had 20 years of relatively minor military pressure (with most conflicts they were getting into being shit they instigated) where they could have built up their conventional army for a military operation (that again, they controlled the timing of), and yet their conventional forces are still heavily reliant on hastily cold war equipment with a hasty upgrade package if lucky. When the smoke clears, and a good chunk of their cold war stockpiles are smoldering in some field in Ukraine, they'll realize they'll have to actually produce shit domestically that can compete with the shit actual NATO nations are developing, while having to deal with economic isolation and without access to western tech to shortcut production. That or become China's bitch.

 

[Disheveled-Human]

Next NATO fleet to hit Ukraine.
From the west with love.

 

[mindlessobserver]

I hope when the Russian ambassador bitched about the US flying drones close to Russia he was told "Mister Ambassador, the US was not flying drones anywhere near Russia. At all times, we were in international waters off the coast of Ukraine".

 

[Foltest]

RUssia should also shut up as they violate other countries airspace all the time.

 

[GatorAids]

The new Twisted Metal is looking pretty fun

 

[Racist Trash]

The new Twisted Metal is looking pretty fun

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It's like those Japanese ww2 anti tank poles but flying.

 

[I faked the autism]

There's been some gigabrain retard takes posted here and that's pretty high up there among them, congrats.

What outcome of this war that won't be brokered by a third party that isn't a peace deal with Ukraine getting the short end of the stick do you think will happen? You think nato and the US will just never stop sending money to Ukraine? And they'll just fight forever? International attention is already dropping off from Ukraine. Yemen, Syria .. Afghanistan.. lol.

I can't quote some but for those who think all the military aid Ukraine was "gifted" or "donated" so they don't have to pay it back for muh liberal democracy, That's not how capitalist countries or Blackrock work. https://thegeopolitics.com/myths-over-ukraine-military-aid-how-the-lend-lease-works/
It's also why Germany is the biggest funder of Ukraine, they really want those oil fields in the east for energy costs.

Big misplay to assume such things. Even if they take Bakhmut tomorrow they still need to secure the zone which would be at least hitting the 2 month period and that being the only forward pressure Russia is really pushing is weak as fuck. At the start of the war they were doing a trident attack from north, east and south now they are just trying to peg a city from the south where they are strongest. Russia will have fun having to rebuild all their equipment and vehicles.

I think you are missing the bigger geopolitical picture. Nato is looking incredibly weak and cowardly.
-Putin invades Georgia.
Nato response: Stern words and condemnation
-Putin invades Chechnya
Nato response: Stern words and condemnation
-China recaptures Hong Kong
Nato response: Stern words and condemnation.
-Russia invades Ukraine.
Nato response: Send billions of dollars in equipment that has to be paid but made very clear in the beginning of the war they physically will not get involved.
-China regularly violates Taiwan's airspace
Nato response: Stern words and condemnation
-Russia threatens nuclear war
Nato response: Strong words and condemnation
-Russia literally shoots down an American aircraft on international waters (haha drunk vatnik doesn't know how to fly) spin it however you want but the reality is Putin put down a US aircraft in international waters.
Nato response: stern words and condemnation
See a pattern here? Point is the UN can huff and puff all they want about democracy but they will not do action, because in reality these things aren't strategically worth it to them.

The US can larp about how important it is strategically for Ukraine to be pro West but in reality its far more important to Europe and Russia. Meaning Russia and Europe are far more likely to broker a deal. Because Europe needs the oil the US does not. And the Twitter hashtags, telegram posts, upside ukie flags only keep people's attention for so long. And once the attention goes the funding stops and Ukraine looses everything. You already have major political figures not just in the US, France and I believe Germany now who are questioning the continued funding of Ukraine and it's purpose.

What's China do in all this? Well China needs Russia or in theory to at least resemble to be a strong country to be a bulwark against Western global hegemony. Without Russia, China is alone against the ideological influence of the West. Sure theres Iran, NK, and Cuba but that's not the same. Although China could do a 180 and try to swallow up territories if Russia falls apart. Somebody said it earlier but China comes out the biggest winner no matter the outcome.

 

[teriyakiburns]

I can't quote

This should help you. It's been up as a site notice for a few days, but a lot of people are missing it anyway.

 

[Foltest]

China recaptures Hong Kong
Nato response: Stern words and condemnation.

You know that China got Hong Kong back as the lease was over?
As in, they had control over Hong Kong for 99 years and 1997 was the end of it?

 

[MS Paint Gigachad]

@I faked the autism said:

I think you are missing the bigger geopolitical picture. Nato is looking incredibly weak and cowardly.
-Putin invades Georgia.
Nato response: Stern words and condemnation

-Putin invades Chechnya
Nato response: Stern words and condemnation

-China recaptures Hong Kong
Nato response: Stern words and condemnation.

-Russia invades Ukraine.
Nato response: Send billions of dollars in equipment that has to be paid but made very clear in the beginning of the war they physically will not get involved.

-China regularly violates Taiwan's airspace
Nato response: Stern words and condemnation

-Russia threatens nuclear war
Nato response: Strong words and condemnation

-Russia literally shoots down an American aircraft on international waters (haha drunk vatnik doesn't know how to fly) spin it however you want but the reality is Putin put down a US aircraft in international waters.
Nato response: stern words and condemnation

See a pattern here? Point is the UN can huff and puff all they want about democracy but they will not do action, because in reality these things aren't strategically worth it to them.

So tell me exactly what NATO/the west should've done for half of those without getting into an all-out war between superpowers and respecting proportionality?

-Putin invades Georgia.
Nato response: Georgia wasnt even a NATO ally or on the NATO border.

-Putin invades Chechnya
Nato response: Chechnya was recognised as part of Russia at the point in time the USSR fragmented. It'd have been the equivalent of Florida declaring independence. I'm not sure if the west even recognized Chechnya as a country, and even if it was, it wasnt a NATO ally anyway, and so the only really illegal thing the Russians did was be tooooo brutal with the fighting.

-China recaptures Meddles with internal affairs in Hong Kong
Nato response: Hong Kong isn't even allied with any NATO members, the only thing it's got is some treaty the British signed guaranteeing internal self-governance, which was there partially because the Chinese wanted to take it back in the 80s and the British knew they militarily couldn't keep it.

-Russia invades Ukraine.
Nato response: Ukraine isn't NATO, so it's hard to pull up a justification for sending in the troops. Send billions of dollars in equipment that has to be paid

-China regularly violates Taiwan's airspace
Nato response: popping into each others airspace is nothing new, everyone's been doing it for years. Taiwan isn't even NATO, it's a US ally, so of course NATO (other than US) does nothing. Shooting them down might risk a declaration of war, so resort to Stern words and condemnation

-Russia threatens nuclear war Strong words and condemnation

-Russia literally shoots down an American aircraft on international waters (haha drunk vatnik doesn't know how to fly) rams an American aircraft, thus allowing for plausible deniability spin it however you want but the reality is Putin put down a US aircraft in international waters.
Nato response: stern words and condemnation

 

[DumbDude43]

You think nato and the US will just never stop sending money to Ukraine?

yes.
countering russia is the whole reason for natos existence in the first place. as long as a russian military presence in or around europe exists, nato will keep countering it, that's the whole point of the organisation. if they wouldn't do that, they might as well dissolve the whole thing becauase it would be pointless and serve no purpose (russia is the only conceivable military threat to europe)

 

[Astro Galactic Megalul]

It's like those Japanese ww2 anti tank poles but flying.

Drones be like:
WITNESS MEEEE!!!

Mad Makhno

 

[draggs]

Shorter I didn't fake the autism:

Why didn't you guys start WW3 with all those opportunities what are ya chicken huh bawkbawkbawkbawk bawkBAWK

 

[an retard]

-China recaptures Hong Kong

Sounds like you have a very brainlet understanding of what's going on internationally. Have you considered a career in geopolitics?

 

[Foltest]

As Russia can't stop winning, they are going to call up another 400k conscripts!
Just two more weeks Z-bros!
snippet from article:

Details: As Radio Svoboda reported, the Russian Defence Ministry has sent documents to the regions indicating the number of people with whom contracts should be signed.

Radio Svoboda noticed that several Russian regional media outlets immediately published the total number of contract service personnel needed to replenish the Russian army. It was noted that Russia planned to recruit 400,000 such soldiers.

Radio Svoboda indicated that the main part of the work will be carried out by military enlistment offices, and governors will be responsible for the implementation of the plan.

Russian army to be replenished with 400,000 new contract service personnel

The Russian Defence Ministry will start new recruitment of professional soldiers to the Russian army from 1 April, their aim being to add 400,000 new recruits to the army.

www.pravda.com.ua

Russian army to be replenished with 400,000 new contract service pers…

archived 15 Mar 2023 15:23:22 UTC

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[draggs]

As Russia can't stop winning, they are going to call up another 400k conscripts!
Just two more weeks Z-bros!
snippet from article:

Russian army to be replenished with 400,000 new contract service personnel

The Russian Defence Ministry will start new recruitment of professional soldiers to the Russian army from 1 April, their aim being to add 400,000 new recruits to the army.

www.pravda.com.ua

Russian army to be replenished with 400,000 new contract service pers…

archived 15 Mar 2023 15:23:22 UTC

archive.ph

Remember Russia is barely taking any casualties while more gorillions of hohols have been killed on the battlefield than starved in the holodomor

which was totally fake and gay btw never happened. we are fighting nazis by indulging in a wee bit of genocide denialism ourselves you know

 

[draggs]

Chimputin already said in December that Russia was going to draft another 130,000 men this year as part of a totally not hohol war related new military policy, adding another quarter million on that isn't so far fetched

 

[Corette]

Russian spy-ring apprehended in Poland.
Source in vowel deficient speech:
Link
Archive

Machine translation of dubious quality:

Russia's Dangerous Spy Network Broken! Sensational news from RMF FM
Author:
Krzysztof Zasada
Today, March 15 (15:27)
Update: 1 hour 7 minutes ago
Polish services have broken up a spy network working for Russia. The group was supposed to conduct preparations for sabotage activities in our country. As the RMF FM reporter found out, officers of the Internal Security Agency detained 6 people in this case, and a security alert was introduced in connection with the activities of the network on railway routes and in the national critical infrastructure.

Spies on important routes and railway junctions hid cameras that recorded the movement on the tracks and transmitted the image to the network. / CHRISTIAN BEUTLER /PAP/EPA
Spies on important routes and railway junctions hid cameras that recorded the movement on the tracks and transmitted the image to the network. / CHRISTIAN BEUTLER / PAP / EPA
According to the journalist of RMF FM Krzysztof Zasada, six people detained by the Internal Security Agency are foreigners from across our eastern border, who were supposed to work on behalf of the Russian special services.

Hidden cameras by the train tracks
ABW agents detained them in connection with the discovery of hidden cameras on important routes and railway junctions that recorded movement on the tracks and transmitted the image to the network. There are dozens of such devices.

According to the information obtained by the RMF FM reporter, it is mainly about sections of railway routes in the Podkarpackie Voivodeship - including in the vicinity of the airport in Jasionka near Rzeszów. It is the main transfer point for Western weapons and ammunition for Ukraine.

Preparations for the construction of a railway stop at the airport in Jasionka /Darek Delmanowicz /PAP/EPA
Preparations for the construction of a railway stop at the airport in Jasionka/Darek Delmanowicz /PAP/EPA
Cameras were also set up in other parts of Poland.

Security Alert
In connection with this action, officers of the services and the police were put on high alert.