General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

Zaion has liked multiple comments speaking ill of him on YouTube, whereas his "Golf With Friends" collab featuring her and Pio got unlisted/deleted due to him unable to take the banter. Said stream also had him shit-talk them while on mute, which he was called out for directly by both parties. Days later, Enna would berate and speak poorly of Pio during the WrestleSanji event while hanging out with Kyo seemingly in retaliation. You also have to factor in that Kyo and Enna decided to go "on break" the second her graduation was announced. As linked elsewhere in the thread, Kyo also used his personal account to speak ill of her. Wiggers are never to be trusted.

Subject of Pio. Some on /vt/ and social media have taken issue with him going radio silent on the whole graduation, especially as they had a high number of collaborations together in her short timespan in Nijisanji.
Pio being Doppio I assume? I don't watch his solo content but he's been fun in collabs so I hope he keeps course. My vocabulary might be 90% slurs but you don't go and publicly disparage coworkers, even ex ones, and especially don't do it to your shared customer base. The proper professional responses are: no comment or point people to the official guidance with a potential "wish them well in the future". Anything else is petty but it does at least create some spicy drama to laugh at. The ones who decided to make a comment regardless, and a negative one at that, what did you expect? You decided to play in the pig pen, don't be surprised when you get shit on you.

Have some Kettle
 
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Bicori nooooo!
 
Zaion has liked multiple comments speaking ill of him on YouTube, whereas his "Golf With Friends" collab featuring her and Pio got unlisted/deleted due to him unable to take the banter. Said stream also had him shit-talk them while on mute, which he was called out for directly by both parties. Days later, Enna would berate and speak poorly of Pio during the WrestleSanji event while hanging out with Kyo seemingly in retaliation. You also have to factor in that Kyo and Enna decided to go "on break" the second her graduation was announced. As linked elsewhere in the thread, Kyo also used his personal account to speak ill of her. Wiggers are never to be trusted.

Subject of Pio. Some on /vt/ and social media have taken issue with him going radio silent on the whole graduation, especially as they had a high number of collaborations together in her short timespan in Nijisanji.
i wonder why Enna simps for Kyo so much. it seems they build this unholy alliance together.
 
If Ren can denounce harassment (that the livers never commanded either, unprofessional as some of them were), so can Sayu.
Sayu has no motivation to do that in this situation. Niji and its talents have burned their bridges with her. She herself has been harassed and even doxed, and nobody at Niji ever came to her defense. So I don't blame her for not saying anything. In any case, her official account with Niji has been terminated, and she's already preparing an official response to her release, as per her own statements. She may comment on the harassment then, if at all.
 
If Kyo is friends with that cunt it says A LOT about his character.
You’re only saying that because you don’t like Kyo.

Now try to apply that with some consistency to Magni. Who collabed with her and is also her friend.

I still like Kyo because a few shitty actions look WAY worse when you already don’t like someone. And since I liked him before the mistake, I’m not dropping him because he was a dick a few times.
Zaion has liked multiple comments speaking ill of him on YouTube, whereas his "Golf With Friends" collab featuring her and Pio got unlisted/deleted due to him unable to take the banter. Said stream also had him shit-talk them while on mute, which he was called out for directly by both parties. Days later, Enna would berate and speak poorly of Pio during the WrestleSanji event while hanging out with Kyo seemingly in retaliation. You also have to factor in that Kyo and Enna decided to go "on break" the second her graduation was announced. As linked elsewhere in the thread, Kyo also used his personal account to speak ill of her. Wiggers are never to be trusted.

Subject of Pio. Some on /vt/ and social media have taken issue with him going radio silent on the whole graduation, especially as they had a high number of collaborations together in her short timespan in Nijisanji.
Do you have any evidence? A link to an archive would help. Also you go on to say Enna “berated” Doppio on Wrestlesanji, I just watched the Enna and Kyo interview of Day 2 of the event and that didn't happen. Like at all. She doesn't even mention him. She said "I wanted to lose like 2 rounds ago" and bantered with Kyo
I even decided to look at ALL the interviews she did and her chats on both streams. Just to be 100% fair.
(side note, these are hilarious)
As you can see, the one thing she said was "stop roleplaying Doppio I have no time, I'm gonna go to sleep" which she said while dead tired and at 3 am.
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Correlation=/= causation. You're trying to connect events that are not related. Maybe they were thinking about it for a while and this situation simply added stress, maybe they had the date planned in advance.
Enna for example announced the break 2 days after the termination and claims her fans encouraged her to take one. It had nothing to do with Zaion
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Kyo's break also had nothing to do with Zaion. Because he went on it BEFORE she was terminated.
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"Kyo also used his personal account to speak ill of her" once, he MIGHT have done that, one time. As far as I have seen there has been nothing but that 1 time.

This just feels like you're pulling a Stretch Armstrong to justifying hating on Kyo and for some reason Enna.
 
i wonder why Enna simps for Kyo so much. it seems they build this unholy alliance together.
Enna attaches to guys she can connect with from what she's said, so I dont think it's really simping for but rather one of the few guys we see her actually getting along with that's obviously outside of "hey we work together."
Also keep in mind, Anykara confirmed soft suspensions are a thing, so while it may not be 1:1 related to Zaion, Kyo's break was weirdly timed.
 
Magni confirms what we knew; that Fortnite is a psy-op.

Flayon talking about his school sports past and his ways to commit on working out.

In case you haven't seen those, Axel and Selen talk about how they got together in VSaikyo. It all comes down to Axel not being able to get to JP players at time, and reaching out to Selen, for whom he had to negotiate for 1 hour in order to accept her. They also streamed together today, Apex of course.
 
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You’re only saying that because you don’t like Kyo.

Now try to apply that with some consistency to Magni. Who collabed with her and is also her friend.

I still like Kyo because a few shitty actions look WAY worse when you already don’t like someone. And since I liked him before the mistake, I’m not dropping him because he was a dick a few times.
100% not true, and the simple reason is because you had to make a post to try and 'explain' shitty actions Kyo's taken in the past. Magni HAS NOT done any such actions that would require any kind of explaner. Which immediately brings Kyo's character into question in a way that Magni doesn't require.

It's much easier to be trusting of good people with a shitty friend, rather than a seemingly shitty person hanging out with shitty friends.
 
100% not true, and the simple reason is because you had to make a post to try and 'explain' shitty actions Kyo's taken in the past. Magni HAS NOT done any such actions that would require any kind of explaner. Which immediately brings Kyo's character into question in a way that Magni doesn't require.

It's much easier to be trusting of good people with a shitty friend, rather than a seemingly shitty person hanging out with shitty friends.
Hmm, I guess “ a few shitty actions look WAY worse when you already don’t like someone” is an explainer of his actions. Though that paragraph was honestly meant to explain why I don’t hate the guy and am not dropping him
 
I don't think Finana doesn't understand the meaning of gaslight:
manipulate (someone) using psychological methods into questioning their own sanity or powers of reasoning.

She might have lied to Finana, but based on what little information she said, I don't think that's "gaslighting."

Yeah, she's ESL, but if I were her, I would've pre-planned my statement rather being off the cuff about it all, and making things worse for Zaion. Man, she's dumb...
Gonna be real though on this side of things I think some of you guys have been living under a rock not realizing the word "gaslight" has become in recent times just a synonym for lying.

like it's been commonplace for over a year now to use the word that way even among EN vtubers (regardless of whether or not one agrees with the word being used this way). So insisting that Finana was using it to it's literal definition as abuse just makes you sound autistic.

This just feels like you're pulling a Stretch Armstrong to justifying hating on Kyo
I mean hey I don't even personally defend Zaion on this whole situation because I think she was plenty enough of a dumbass all on her own even before anycolor or any other person responded improperly. But honestly the fact that Kyo has now more than once taken to a roomate account to underhandedly throw shade at co workers (he was liking tweets tearing down Enna back when twitter declared her racist too) Is enough for me to think he's a fuck up. No stretching required, you just shouldn't do that shit.

Hmm, I guess “ a few shitty actions look WAY worse when you already don’t like someone” is an explainer of his actions. Though that paragraph was honestly meant to explain why I don’t hate the guy and am not dropping him
I promise I mean this nicely Nolan but who the fuck asked. You don't need to explain to us why you are watching him, and rambling on about it ends up just sounding like you're defending him/his actions not that you're defending your decision (which no one here even gives a damn about)
 
Now try to apply that with some consistency to Magni. Who collabed with her and is also her friend.
Man, call me when Magni talks shit about his coworkers/friends behind their backs, on his side account. Call me when he gets any of his coworkers attacked because they made a joke about his gook ass liking kimchi.

I don't understand how the concept of good will towards someone, and losing it by doing retarded shit repeatedly is so fucking alien to you.
 
Man, call me when Magni talks shit about his coworkers/friends behind their backs, on his side account. Call me when he gets any of his coworkers attacked because they made a joke about his gook ass liking kimchi.

I don't understand how the concept of good will towards someone, and losing it by doing retarded shit repeatedly is so fucking alien to you.
Or... maybe... and this will blow you're fucking mind out of the back of your skull. I compared the 2 because Rein's statement was the mere fact that Kyo and Daph were friends spoke to his character. "If Kyo is friends with that cunt it says A LOT about his character."
 
Man, call me when Magni talks shit about his coworkers/friends behind their backs, on his side account. Call me when he gets any of his coworkers attacked because they made a joke about his gook ass liking kimchi.

I don't understand how the concept of good will towards someone, and losing it by doing retarded shit repeatedly is so fucking alien to you.
Last response was poor so let me try something better.
1. I was wrong with the posts and realized after the last one that I was taking the comment in a vacuum and without subtext.
2. Ofc I know that, and I want to make it clear that I don't care if people did like him and now don't. The thing is I'm pretty sure you guys never liked Kyo, even before the Enna and Zaion stuff I never saw people compliment him, so there was no "good will" for him to lose in the first place.
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@Burnt Fish For some reason I can't reply to your post.
Since the farms were down at the time I decided to check TVA and see if Kyo "was liking tweets tearing down Enna back when twitter declared her racist too".
These were all posts made at the time of the drama. None mention him liking tweets. So from what I can tell, that didn't happen. (I also checked his likes https://twitter.com/QuinnBenet/likes)
 
Ofc I know that, and I want to make it clear that I don't care if people did like him and now don't. The thing is I'm pretty sure you guys never liked Kyo, even before the Enna and Zaion stuff I never saw people compliment him, so there was no "good will" for him to lose in the first place.
You know, how when Yugo got terminated, you said this exact same thing? And then I think, I told you something along the lines of "nobody praised Yugo because nobody talked about Yugo in the first place". Yeah. People didn't praise Kyo because nobody really cared about Kyo, it doesn't mean people hated him or disliked him instantly. And then his yabs started piling up, and people started disliking him. It's not rocket science.
 
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