Ukrainian Defensive War against the Russian Invasion - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[Snekposter]

The new Twisted Metal is looking pretty fun

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"Hey you, you're finally awake..."

Sounds like you have a very brainlet understanding of what's going on internationally. Have you considered a career in geopolitics?

I think the Russian Foreign Ministry is hiring. There's a lot of openings, and I'm not just talking about the missing window panes. I will say its impressive how people who fail Putin for the last time always magically throw themselves from high places. Even Darth Vader had to reach out with his hand when he wanted to fire someone for poor job performance.

I think its more serious now, tensions are higher than ever and both sides really would want to make sure there is no direct confrontation
Russia took down a US drone in international waters, completely illegal and an act of agression. I honestly thought the response would've been much greater than what we've seen thus far

It was involved in spying on Russia for Ukraine, and nobody was injured. Its just "yeah okay Russia, did you really have to do the aviation equivalent of pissing on our drone's leg before you took it down?"

 

[draggs]

"Hey you, you're finally awake..."

I think the Russian Foreign Ministry is hiring. There's a lot of openings, and I'm not just talking about the missing window panes. I will say its impressive how people who fail Putin for the last time always magically throw themselves from high places. Even Darth Vader had to reach out with his hand when he wanted to fire someone for poor job performance.

It was involved in spying on Russia for Ukraine, and nobody was injured. Its just "yeah okay Russia, did you really have to do the aviation equivalent of pissing on our drone's leg before you took it down?"

Legally the US is neutral and international airspace and waters are international

Russia certainly does what it can to get surveillance up close to US shit any way it can and then use it to fuck the US, although what they can do is much less than when they were Soviets

It's just stupid to buzz an aircraft that close even a drone and then hit it or make some soy soldier in Virginia or Kuwait or wherever spill his latte and crash the thing

 

[Snekposter]

Legally the US is neutral and international airspace and waters are international

Russia certainly does what it can to get surveillance up close to US shit any way it can and then use it to fuck the US, although what they can do is much less than when they were Soviets

It's just stupid to buzz an aircraft that close even a drone and then hit it or make some soy soldier in Virginia or Kuwait or wherever spill his latte and crash the thing

I didn't say it was smart. Just that the US's response of shaking its head and going "Really, Russia?" is an entirely appropriate response. I mean an MQ-9 is only like five million, which might as well be a rounding error on the Air Force's annual budget.

 

[Ghostse]

I didn't say it was smart. Just that the US's response of shaking its head and going "Really, Russia?" is an entirely appropriate response. I mean an MQ-9 is only like five million, which might as well be a rounding error on the Air Force's annual budget.

I'll also say its probably not forgiven or forgotten and "Rememebr when we didn't roast your balls over being idiots in international airspace?" if the US has a whoopsie in the future.

 

[Snekposter]

I'll also say its probably not forgiven or forgotten and "Rememebr when we didn't roast your balls over being idiots in international airspace?" if the US has a whoopsie in the future.

Pretty much.

 

[Absurdist Laughter]

translating into more political pressure to end the adventure.

That is what I've been hoping this entire time. I admit my view of Russia is influenced by media (movies, music, YouTube) the most supplemented now with actual news and reporting coming out of the country. This is what I was hoping for, much like waiting out the coof, I'm waiting out this war. China and Russia, much like the states, are impacted by this global depression and their economies are suffering. Adding a war where the war tactic is attrition without the general population on your side is a recipe for volatility and one bright flash and then a swift fizzling out as attrition kills more brothers, sisters, sons, daughters, fathers and mothers.

I think that is what the broader message being sent to Russia right now, the "iron bank" has shown who they support and they will reclaim everything loaned to Ukraine either monetarily or through natural resources such as farmland and oil.

 

[RodgerDodger]

at the time of nato founding the USSR was a real global power that could absolutely strike at UK, canada, portugal if it had wanted to, and this was seen as a real danger since the USSR officially pursued the goal of achieving worldwide communism.

in general a defensive alliance is useful only if there exists someone that could realistically pose a threat to you, otherwise it's pointless. for nato, that someone is russia. nobody else on the planet has the ability to seriously threaten nation states in europe or north america (except maybe turkey threatening greece over island disputes)

You'll notice the sudden move to add Japan and South Korea to NATO. Which clearly reflects an evolving anticipated threat vector. CHINA. And the closest NATO Member to China, the only one that is only separating by 2 borders of 2 largely failed states, is Turkey. Granted you would think China would not be stupid enough to tray and invade through Afghanistan seeing the wreckage of empires there. But they did go into Vietnam in the late 70's.

 

[Snekposter]

You'll notice the sudden move to add Japan and South Korea to NATO. Which clearly reflects an evolving anticipated threat vector. CHINA. And the closest NATO Member to China, the only one that is only separating by 2 borders of 2 largely failed states, is Turkey. Granted you would think China would not be stupid enough to tray and invade through Afghanistan seeing the wreckage of empires there. But they did go into Vietnam in the late 70's.

If you really have to ask yourself if someone really is that dumb, you probably already know the answer.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

Exclusive: Chinese-made drone, retrofitted and weaponized, downed in eastern Ukraine​

Exclusive: Chinese-made drone, retrofitted and weaponized, downed in eastern Ukraine | CNN

Driving deep into the forest, the hush between the towering pine trees and the clear blue skies was splintered every few seconds by the sound of distant explosions from the frontline battles for eastern Ukraine.

www.cnn.com

China-made Mugin-5 drone downed in eastern Ukraine | CNN

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China-made Mugin-5 drone downed in eastern Ukraine | CNN

archived 16 Mar 2023 04:56:45 UTC

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I'm going to put this in this thread since it's CNN.

 

[Uranus Pink]

I didn't say it was smart. Just that the US's response of shaking its head and going "Really, Russia?" is an entirely appropriate response. I mean an MQ-9 is only like five million, which might as well be a rounding error on the Air Force's annual budget.

As of 2021 the price of a brand new MQ-9 Reaper drone is $56.5 million. If however the USAF is using the older block MQ-9 Reapers in theater, their cost were substantially less at $14 million per drone.

 

[Coffee Mugshot]

As of 2021 the price of a brand new MQ-9 Reaper drone is $56.5 million. If however the USAF is using the older block MQ-9 Reapers in theater, their cost were substantially less at $14 million per drone.

According to the USAF website regarding the MQ-9,

"Unit Cost: $56.5 million (includes four aircraft with sensors, ground control station and Predator Primary satellite link) (fiscal 2011 dollars)"

Divide by four and you get about $14 million per drone. Note at the bottom of the page '(Current as of March 2021)'.

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[DumbDude43]

You'll notice the sudden move to add Japan and South Korea to NATO. Which clearly reflects an evolving anticipated threat vector. CHINA. And the closest NATO Member to China, the only one that is only separating by 2 borders of 2 largely failed states, is Turkey. Granted you would think China would not be stupid enough to tray and invade through Afghanistan seeing the wreckage of empires there. But they did go into Vietnam in the late 70's.

unlike russia, china is not a military threat to europe, and it does not pose a serious nuclear threat to america either (its nuclear arsenal is laughably small compared to russias)

china is a threat to taiwan, south korea, japan (which are all US vassal states so america has a strong interest in defending them to maintain its influence in the region) but it can not fill the role of main adversary to nato like russia can.

 

[King George III]

Wasn't Bakhmut supposed to fall two weeks ago? What the fuck is taking so long? I'm getting very impatient with these faggots.

 

[an retard]

The creation of Nato was to counter Soviet Union influence. Not Russian invasion. And the role of Nato has evolved or devolved into protecting "Western values" and hegemony on a global scale not just a regional one. It has nothing to do with a North Atlantic strategic defensive pact protecting Europe. Nato even says this themselves with their partnership with Japan, South Korea, Mongolia, and Australia.

I guess that's why it was formed as a military defensive alliance, huh. Even the link you fucking posted discusses how NATO's military objectives should still be upheld and that Russia's actions actually justify that position, directly contradicting the shit you're posting, its right there on page 2

 

[Melmac_Knight]

summary on how good the SMO is going

 

[draggs]

NATO was formed to keep the Russians out, the Americans in, and the Germans down

Acting like it doesn't have a purpose in Europe when Russia started the largest war in the world in the last 50 years on the doorstep of Europe, or in Europe depending on what you believe, is retarded

Anyway the glowniggers have released footage from the drone of drunk slavniggers doing drunk slavnigger things

 

[Vince McMahon]

Not Russian invasion

Which country has inherited USSR assets around the world as well as the seat at the UN Security Council? Which constituent USSR republic, to be exact?

 

[EpicGamerMoment]

Wasn't Bakhmut supposed to fall two weeks ago? What the fuck is taking so long? I'm getting very impatient with these faggots.

Just 2 more weeks Z-bros. The globohomo will fall and heckin based Putin will become Tsar of Europe! Just 2 more weeks, 3 more months, another year!

2030 the latest!

 

[Astro Galactic Megalul]

Wasn't Bakhmut supposed to fall two weeks ago? What the fuck is taking so long? I'm getting very impatient with these faggots.

It's like nuclear fusion, but instead of being forever 20 years away, it's two weeks instead.

 

[MG-34]

MiGs to Ukraine arc.

Four now, more to go. Poland sends MiG-29 fighters

Polish president Andrzej Duda informed that Poland will send four MiG-29 fighters to Ukraine in "coming days", and others are being prepared.

defence24.com

We are handing over four aircraft in full working order in the coming days, the others are being serviced, prepared and will probably be successively handed over," Duda said on Thursday in Warsaw after a conversation with Czech President Petr Pavel.
Duda added that "we still have a dozen of these MiGs in our inventory at the moment", the aircraft are operational and still used for surveillance of Polish airspace, but "these are the last years of their operation".
He pointed out that MiGi-29s are "fighters that today Ukrainian pilots are able to operate without any additional training". "We will successively transfer (them) to the disposal of the Ukrainian Armed Forces". - he announced.
Currently Poland has more than 20 MiG-29 fighters with operational status. They were purchased directly from USSR during the times of Warsaw Pact (12 units), from Czech Republic (10 units) and were taken from Germany as symbolic 1 EUR purchase (24 but only 11 were included into Polish fleet, the rest was worn out).
It is unclear how many fighters in total will be given by Poland, however the other NATO MiG-29 user – Slovakia – declared it will give 10 fighters.

It would be interesting to see if these things were stuffed with modern Western instruments and sensors.