Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

[WTBOnlineFather]

Next, a detrans woman has posted a thread calling out Crane Center, specifically DeLeon and Santucci

Lol. Troon has her tits destroyed, is surprised when her tits are destroyed.

first, lol

Nigger what? "Cut a little slit and pop it right out on my own"? Why, cutting holes in your ballsack sounds perfectly normal, I do that cute little ritual together with my dudebros every Saturday.

 

[Autistic Faggot]

The dumbass 'can I just go back to normal' questions make so goddamn MATI. These arrogant narcissists truly believe that they can fuck around with their God-created, nature-perfected bodies like MR Potato Head and then expect that they can just rearrange everything the way it used to be. The human body is nothing short of a miracle. It took millennia of evolution to get to the point where everything in your body has a function and a purpose and it works perfectly all on its own. And then foolish unbelievers who think their surgeons are better than God decide to throw a wrench in everything and act surprised when, after fucking with the extremely delicate and complicated processes of the human form, they destroy their body and bodily functions irreperably.

Fuck it, give me Maoi statues if needed, but allow me to quote Romans 1:22-25:

"Claiming to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things. Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen."

 

[Fapcop]

Lol. Troon has her tits destroyed, is surprised when her tits are destroyed.

I liked the part where this strong dude bro is at the verge of tears and shaking because the doctor was a bit short on the phone, and forgot to read her mind to realize she can’t see what number he’s calling from.

The outrage over them taking a month (gasp!) to get back to her and wanting her to sign a non disparagement agreement before handing over money is also quite something.

Troons, whether detrans or not, all seem to have Main Character syndrome.

They’re unable to comprehend that they’re just one of hundreds of patients that a surgical center deals with, and no: Just because it’s happening to them, doesn’t mean that it automatically gets to the front of the line of stuff the surgeons are dealing with.

Likewise they all (well, many of them to be fair) seem to think their complications were the result of criminal negligence or nefarious ill will instead of what they actually are: Perfectly predictable results of fucking around.

Like, if she’d take a look at the list of side effects and complications of double mastectomy, she’s find that “hematoma” is right there.

Of course none of them expect the complications to actually ever happen to themselves.

I have sympathy for detransers, but for god sake, take some responsibility.

The dumbass 'can I just go back to normal' questions make so goddamn MATI. These arrogant narcissists truly believe that they can fuck around with their God-created, nature-perfected bodies like MR Potato Head and then expect that they can just rearrange everything the way it used to be.

Try to compare your average detranser to a reformed drug addict.

(Someone they have a lot in common with!)

You rarely hear an ex junkie try to blame it all on the dealer or the war on drugs.

Instead, they take responsibility: “I had heard the stories, I thought it wouldn’t happen to me, I was a dumbass.”

It’s a shame many detransers don’t have the same self awareness and accountability.

 

[Fapcop]

r/salmacian seems to be the subreddit for the regretters who are still neck deep in the ideology to go to discuss reversal surgeries.
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reverse vaginectomy?

I got RFF phallo in 2018 with complete vaginectomy, scrotoplasty and urethraplasty. Everything went pretty well, I have some ongoing nerve pain but moreso with my arm/donor site than penis.

I really regret closing my vagina, and have this odd feeling of feeling it still. Especially in a sexual context, it feels similarly to pre-surgery when it would swell/etc and pressure and touch there feels great, but I really miss that hole!

I wonder if anyone has ever had a reverse vaginectomy who was in a situation like mine? I know I would likely need to reroute my urethra to reopen the hole but that is okay with me. I would miss standing to pee, but would prefer to have the hole back more.

Thanks for any advice or experience given!

This is another post she made a few months ago on r/phallo

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"reverse" vaginectomy?

So I know you can't fully reverse it, but does anyone know (or has anyone had) a hole reopened?

I am thinking about rerouting my urethra and they told me I'd have about a nickel sized hole behind my scrotum to pee out of. I am wondering if it would be possible to open it up mote and create a hole again? I feel my old bits and miss them/having sex with them more than I thought.

Obviously planning to consult with my surgeon bur interested to hear from others. Thanks!

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Jesus Christ man…

You “miss your vagina more than you thought you would”.

Well fuck, maybe all the transphobes had a point?!

Sorry girl… They cut off or burned off all the tissue before closing up your vagina.

Whatever you have, you have. There’s no “undo” button in life.

 

[Tard Whisperer]

Lol. Troon has her tits destroyed, is surprised when her tits are destroyed.

this was a teenager groomed since 11…

I liked the part where this strong dude bro is at the verge of tears and shaking because the doctor was a bit short on the phone, and forgot to read her mind to realize she can’t see what number he’s calling from.

The outrage over them taking a month (gasp!) to get back to her and wanting her to sign a non disparagement agreement before handing over money is also quite something.

Troons, whether detrans or not, all seem to have Main Character syndrome.

They’re unable to comprehend that they’re just one of hundreds of patients that a surgical center deals with, and no: Just because it’s happening to them, doesn’t mean that it automatically gets to the front of the line of stuff the surgeons are dealing with.

Likewise they all (well, many of them to be fair) seem to think their complications were the result of criminal negligence or nefarious ill will instead of what they actually are: Perfectly predictable results of fucking around.

Like, if she’d take a look at the list of side effects and complications of double mastectomy, she’s find that “hematoma” is right there.

Of course none of them expect the complications to actually ever happen to themselves.

I have sympathy for detransers, but for god sake, take some responsibility.

Yeah if you have a complication your provider is supposed to support you to resolve it. This is what she looked like and they told her to fuck off:

She never blames the surgeon for giving her the surgery that she asked for. She blames them for dismissing the responses for her complications that needed further care. Like anyone should.

You really have to make some wild leaps to make her the one not taking responsibility, pretty similar to how troons themselves attack detransitioners

 

[monstrous bubo]

Whatever you have, you have. There’s no “undo” button in life.

It ties into the other observations here about people treating major surgery like it’s modding in games. Add on, cut off, it doesn’t matter. CTRL + Z promises consequence-free decisions. Right up until you realise you were sold a lie, you helped sell it to yourself, and there is no going back, only forward.

 

[HERE YOU GO]

When else would you need to be Ok with it? Gardening? In the office? It’s for pissing through and having sex with, what else does he expect?
“My ears really bother me except when I hear with them.”

he particularly misses sex because he's a pervert.
rapists who get their dick bit off by dogs in brown countries usually miss their dicks too.
throbbert missing his cawk and bawlz like that is gross and degenerate just like becoming a tranny in the first place is.
when he becomes a straight guy again, maybe he can stalk little kids and step over other boundaries since he's a boundary stepper and wants his dick back to cause problems.
he can't even see that sex already got him to chop himself up, but it wont be a problem with it further if he gets it back now that he SPECIFICALLY WANTS TO FUCK WITH IT AND MISSES DOING THAT.
fucking destroy this guy.

 

[Lady Farishta]

yeah, it's not even like she was asking for much. just reimbursement for a dismissive ER visit, instead of crying transphobia and suing the fuck out them... I mean as much as tifs love milking things

bizarre how she can take a smiling mirror selfie with that beat-up chest...

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

The way dating is these days I don’t have hope for what I want anymore (a family and kids)

Tranny dumbass would have had a family and kids if she hadn't destroyed her sex organs and never turned into a hairy roid Goblin.

And yes, she is right; there is no fucking reason to date a crazy woman pretending to be a man when you can date actual men. There is absolutely no good reason to date trannies. All you get are either horribly hrt mutated or multilated genital abominations attached to an insane sick freak.

 

[Cow goes moo]

with as few surgeries as possible? trans people act like it's their God-given right that another human perform surgery on them. so fucking weird.

Isn't it though? I mean maybe it's just the libertarian in me talking but I think every person should be free to do with their body as they please.

People have elective surgery all the time. Whether that's wise or not is a personal risk/benefit analysis.

 

[Fapcop]

yeah, it's not even like she was asking for much. just reimbursement for a dismissive ER visit, instead of crying transphobia and suing the fuck out them... I mean as much as tifs love milking things

bizarre how she can take a smiling mirror selfie with that beat-up chest...

And they did offer her a reimbursement.

And obviously in return wanted a non disparagement clause and not to be sued, which is hardly unreasonable.

She wanted: “A guarantee that the surgical center would take measures against this sort of negligence”.

Nigga wut?! Does she think she’s the FDA or something?

Does that strike you as reasonable? Or like a bizarre rant by a teenager with Main Character Syndrome?

 

[Lady Farishta]

Isn't it though? I mean maybe it's just the libertarian in me talking but I think every person should be free to with their body as they please.

People have elective surgery all the time. Whether that's wise or not is a personal risk/benefit analysis.

I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about expecting that there is someone who can and will and must do this for you and that you *need* it done or you won't survive, this idea that the surgery is lifesaving in the same way someone who is literally bleeding out and dying needs surgery; expecting that there is another human skilled enough, expecting the surgeries to even exist. They didn't a hundred years ago, or two hundred, whatever. And so what? Did every tranny *die*? ... I'm talking about this idea that you were born this naked little baby that spilled out into the world with a perfectly functioning healthy body, if you were lucky, but somehow your existence, your fate is tied to someone else: a surgeon.

like I saw this tif talking about we need to "advocate" for better surgeries for trans people, again and again over and over putting their power in the hands of another. I'm thinking, bitch, you become a surgeon and cut up your body if it's so damn important; stop putting the burden on others.

we all know there are plenty of surgeons out there and plenty of procedures to choose from. my point was that it is absurd to think in this way, this way of "we just have to learn to live and get the least amount of surgeries as possible," as if it's natural as can be that a human should need surgeries in order to just live normally. to me it just sounded like such a ludicrous statement.

 

[Fapcop]

Isn't it though? I mean maybe it's just the libertarian in me talking but I think every person should be free to do with their body as they please.

Nope.

No man is an island, and I don’t want to live in a society where every lunatic can just cut off their body parts and be told “Yeah maaan! That’s fine! It’s your body!”

Also, it’s not just “your body” your actions always have consequences for other people as well.

The BPD chick who wants an abortion in the third trimester? There’s a father and baby to consider as well.

The troon who wants a stinkditch? Increases the premiums for everyone else.

The pooner in the ER with their third UI this year? You might be behind her in line, and everyone’s money is wasted.

People have elective surgery all the time. Whether that's wise or not is a personal risk/benefit analysis.

Sure, and many of the surgeries, like rhinoplasties or breast reduction are reasonably safe.

But there’s a limit to elective surgery. We don’t let crazy people chop off their arms or legs or get surgically blinded because “it’s their body” and they want elective surgery.

Troon surgeries should be treated the same way elective leg amputations are.

 

[Lady Farishta]

yeah, I personally think SRS should be illegal

but hey, if you wanna do it to your own body... who is stopping you... there is your liberty

 

[Law]

Also… I actually found this interesting,,she is showing how testosterone changes a female body in 19 months combined with working out).

Man, I would be so pissed if I did roids and they made me fatter and fuzzier instead of ripped.

It ties into the other observations here about people treating major surgery like it’s modding in games.

I think the normalization of cosmetic surgery has played a role in all this. All your favorite celebrities have "gotten a little work done" and surgery is portrayed as fun, cool and glamorous instead of serious and potentially dangerous. Lip injections are out of control in my area (I'm tried of seeing women look like plungers) and Botox is being advertised on TV to people in their 20s. Kim Kardashian is idolized partially because she paid teams of surgeons to transform her into a patchwork quilt of saline and ass-fat. These surgeries and procedures are profitable, so the companies behind them have an incentive to convince people that surgical procedures are fun, necessary and no big deal or easily reversible with more surgery.
If you grow up in this culture I can't really blame you for underestimating the dangers and permanence of surgery.

 

[Cow goes moo]

I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about expecting that there is someone who can and will and must do this for you and that you *need* it done or you won't survive, this idea that the surgery is lifesaving in the same way someone who is literally bleeding out and dying needs surgery; expecting that there is another human skilled enough, expecting the surgeries to even exist. They didn't a hundred years ago, or two hundred, whatever. And so what? Did every tranny *die*? ... I'm talking about this idea that you were born this naked little baby that spilled out into the world with a perfectly functioning healthy body, if you were lucky, but somehow your existence, your fate is tied to someone else: a surgeon.

like I saw this tif talking about we need to "advocate" for better surgeries for trans people, again and again over and over putting their power in the hands of another. I'm thinking, bitch, you become a surgeon and cut up your body if it's so damn important; stop putting the burden on others.

Fair enough. Surgery shouldn't be your lifeline. And you shouldn't expect anyone to safe you, doesn't matter if it's a surgeon or a priest.

I think it's unfair that the surgeons who are performing SRS present it as something that it's not, but they have a symbiotic relationship with transpeople in the same way that a rhinoplastic surgeon moves to Malibu, it's supply for demand.

Nope.

No man is an island, and I don’t want to live in a society where every lunatic can just cut off their body parts and be told “Yeah maaan! That’s fine! It’s your body!”

Also, it’s not just “your body” your actions always have consequences for other people as well.

The BPD chick who wants an abortion in the third trimester? There’s a father and baby to consider as well.

The troon who wants a stinkditch? Increases the premiums for everyone else.

The pooner in the ER with their third UI this year? You might be behind her in line, and everyone’s money is wasted.



Sure, and many of the surgeries, like rhinoplasties or breast reduction are reasonably safe.

But there’s a limit to elective surgery. We don’t let crazy people chop off their arms or legs or get surgically blinded because “it’s their body” and they want elective surgery.

Troon surgeries should be treated the same way elective leg amputations are.

Abortion isn't really only your own body now is it. And I agree society should be paying for "gender affirming surgeries" same as it shouldn't be paying for a voluntary liposuction.

Agree there should be some limits. When I said "as few surgeries as possible" I meant safe and tried and true things like rhinoplasty.

 

[Fapcop]

Rhinoplasty is one thing. I’m fine with that, even though the results are often pretty horrid.

But the whole “your body” argument just breaks down when you look at tranny surgeries.

Like, it’s your body, sure… But drugs have been criminalized for decades, because what you do with “your body” doesn’t exclusively affect you.

 

[Lady Farishta]

Interestingly, my morbid obsession with botched plastic surgery is partly what led me to discover the horrors of SRS many years ago...

 

[Tard Whisperer]

And they did offer her a reimbursement.

And obviously in return wanted a non disparagement clause and not to be sued, which is hardly unreasonable.

She wanted: “A guarantee that the surgical center would take measures against this sort of negligence”.

Nigga wut?! Does she think she’s the FDA or something?

Does that strike you as reasonable? Or like a bizarre rant by a teenager with Main Character Syndrome?

yes, sounds reasonable to me to expect more from the surgeon than $431 after the way she was treated. they weren’t interested in taking any further action to make it right, so she went public with the experience to warn others.

 

[Myrtle the Turtle]

The plastic surgery profession is going to have its work cut out for them on that one, because there is often not much tissue left to work with, post-SRS, and it would lead to even further scarring and urinary issues.

This goes beyond most plastic surgeons capabilities. They operate on healthy adults. These people are coming in with a host of problems. They need a reconstructive specialist and a urologist.