Microsoft is fucking butthurt no one wants Windows 11 so they're stopping the sale of Windows 10 licenses this month

mandatorylurk said:
I noticed last night I got an update icon on my computer with a blue dot saying it was ready to upgrade to windows 11 tonight while sleeping, glad I saw it and disabled it so it wouldn’t pull that shit like they did years ago with windows 8
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I'm assuming everyone who hasn't been bamboozled up until this point has done this or something similar, but you can lock down your computer incessant desire to upgrade itself into a total, non-working shitheap by using administrative group policies to disable any kind of automatic update:

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So far as I know, this is the only way to say to Windows "no, really, I mean it, don't update or randomly restart in the middle of the night" and have it actually listen to you, because this is a tool used by the corporate customers they actually care about recurring revenue from (vs. home users, which Microsoft just wants to sell the data of).
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Their vision is to one day have "GNU Windows TNEE 'There's No Escape Edition'" that will pretty much be a cloud only internet dependant dummy station with no real meaningful hardware other than the ability to access cloud files and whatever Stream Only game services exists at the time.
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So basically, Microsoft Office.
 
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DamnWolves! said:
So far as I know, this is the only way to say to Windows "no, really, I mean it, don't update or randomly restart in the middle of the night" and have it actually listen to you, because this is a tool used by the corporate customers they actually care about recurring revenue from (vs. home users, which Microsoft just wants to sell the data of).
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I just set my network data limit to 1 meg per month and it de facto turns off automatic updates without all the group policy fiddle-fuckery.
 
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Aidan said:
I don't know about Win11 but I know Win8 and Win10 were hoisted upon unwitting users early on. I assume they're doing that again.
Not that I fault Microsoft too much for automatic Win10 -> Win11 updates, if you're using Windows that's part of the package and understood at this point. Windows 8 was understandably egregious.
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Win 8 was egregious because it was a radical UI change that everybody hated. Win 10 -> Win 11 is, like Win 7 -> Win 10, "mostly fine." Some things are better, some things are worse, and in the end, it has that distinct Microsoft smell of dangerhairs who couldn't get hired at Apple playing at being a style leader. Ironically, I would consider Win 7 -> Win 10 a worse upgrade, because the shift from skeuomorphic buttons to flat glyphs was a much more intrusive, widespread degradation in experience than Win 11's gay bullshit search, or how it merged sound, wi-fi, and battery life into a single button.
 
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DamnWolves! said:
I'm assuming everyone who hasn't been bamboozled up until this point has done this or something similar, but you can lock down your computer incessant desire to upgrade itself into a total, non-working shitheap by using administrative group policies to disable any kind of automatic update:

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So far as I know, this is the only way to say to Windows "no, really, I mean it, don't update or randomly restart in the middle of the night" and have it actually listen to you, because this is a tool used by the corporate customers they actually care about recurring revenue from (vs. home users, which Microsoft just wants to sell the data of).

So basically, Microsoft Office.
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Pretty much... damn depressing really. Enjoying the privileges while I still can.

This might be useful for those stuck using Windows 11, disables telemetry and liberates some memory:
Useful for VM guests as well.
Bash: 
# Disable Windows Defender real-time protection
Set-MpPreference -DisableRealtimeMonitoring $true

# Disable Superfetch, Windows Search and other unnecessary services
Stop-Service -Name "Superfetch","WSearch","Themes","RemoteRegistry","DiagTrack","dmwappushsvc"

# Set power plan to high performance
powercfg.exe /setactive 8c5e7fda-e8bf-4a96-9a85-a6e23a8c635c

# Disable Nagle's algorithm
New-ItemProperty -Path "HKLM:\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters" -Name "TcpAckFrequency" -Value 1 -PropertyType dword -Force | Out-Null
New-ItemProperty -Path "HKLM:\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters" -Name "TCPNoDelay" -Value 1 -PropertyType dword -Force | Out-Null

# Increase priority of game process
Get-Process -Name "game.exe" | ForEach-Object { $_.PriorityClass = [System.Diagnostics.ProcessPriorityClass]::High }

# Clear standby memory
Clear-Host
Write-Host "Clearing standby memory..."
$AllocatedMemory = (New-Object System.Diagnostics.PerformanceCounter -ArgumentList "Memory","Standby Cache Reserve Bytes").NextValue()
$BytesToAllocate = $AllocatedMemory + (4 * 1024 * 1024 * 1024)
$BytesToAllocateFormatted = [string]::Format("{0:N0} GB",$BytesToAllocate / 1GB)
Write-Host "Allocating $BytesToAllocateFormatted of memory..."
$Memory = New-Object Byte[]($BytesToAllocate)
Write-Host "Memory allocated. Clearing standby cache..."
[GC]::Collect()
[GC]::WaitForPendingFinalizers()
$AllocatedMemory = $Null
$BytesToAllocate = $Null
$BytesToAllocateFormatted = $Null
$Memory = $Null
Write-Host "Standby cache cleared."

# Disable unnecessary visual effects
Set-ItemProperty -Path "HKCU:\Control Panel\Desktop" -Name "DragFullWindows" -Value 0
Set-ItemProperty -Path "HKCU:\Control Panel\Desktop" -Name "MenuShowDelay" -Value 0
Set-ItemProperty -Path "HKCU:\Control Panel\Desktop" -Name "UserPreferencesMask" -Value ([byte[]](0x90,0x12,0x03,0x80))
Put that into a powershell script, like 'fuck-microsoft.ps1' and run as admin
 
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DamnWolves! said:
So far as I know, this is the only way to say to Windows "no, really, I mean it, don't update or randomly restart in the middle of the night" and have it actually listen to you,
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I have it set to option 7 "Auto Download, Notify to install, Notify to Restart" and the thing still fucking automatically downloaded, installed and rebooted for updates. I've set "No auto-restart with logged on users for scheduled automatic update installations" so hopefully that'll fix the issue. If not, I'll just throw my computer out a window and get a life.
 
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The Ugly One said:
Just about every rolling-release version of Linux is horrendously unstable shitware that manages to create new and hilarious ways to break computers on a regular basis. Seriously, fuck off with this shit. Some of these distros break so frequently that you might as well be using Windows 95. Claiming otherwise just shows you know next to nothing about enterprise Linux or its users.

Enterprise Linux users generally won't touch rolling-release distros, to the point that when the CentOS Project announced that they were prematurely EOLing CentOS 8 and going rolling-release, it caused a minor panic as everyone rushed to find a replacement (btw, it's Rocky or Alma). For servers, enterprises primarily rely on RHEL, with SLES as a distant second, and on workstations, Ubuntu LTS shows up now and then; some ISVs will test on it along with RHEL and SLES. Most of these random goofball distros that the "Switch to Linux!" crowd insists are a replacement for Windows are trash, and major ISVs won't even try to support them.
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>Citing bugs from Ubuntu 11.04 (which was released over a decade ago to prove a point about Linux now)
>Citing Arch Linux forums, forums for a distro that is necessarily rolling release and prone to gay ass bugs all the time

Fucking hell. People that are against using Linux for personal use are fucking retarded if this is their justification for their mentality. I get using Windows or MacOS for work, but stop pretending that Linux isn't a mature as fuck project at this point (at least distros like Debian, Ubuntu and OpenSUSE which are easy to install and are LTE) and you can use it for doing 99% of your average needs nowadays. This isn't BSD where no one actually uses it. Unless you swallow Microsoft's or Apple's jizz, it's probably best to use software that respects you as a consumer. If you don't want to use it, don't complain when Microsoft or Apple takes away functionality from their OSes since you are actively telling them you'll deal with anything so long as you won't have to passively absorb shit. It takes like a couple days (maybe a week) to learn the ins and outs of Linux. If you are so lazy that you have no respect for yourself and want to use an operating system that is usable and doesn't treat you like a fucking source for data analytics instead of an active user, LTE Linux distros are your best bet. It's so fucking perplexing people that have the gall to complain about this shit always refuse to use Linux and then bitch and moan when these gay ass corporations double down on their draconian dystopic nonsense.
 
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Virago Esteemer said:
>Citing bugs from Ubuntu 11.04 (which was released over a decade ago to prove a point about Linux now)
>Citing Arch Linux forums, forums for a distro that is necessarily rolling release and prone to gay ass bugs all the time
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I was specifically talking about why enterprises don't use rolling-release distros, and specifically responding to a claim that desktop Linux is, in general, perfectly stable, with no meaningful difference between enterprise server Linux distros and any random desktop distro. So yes, examples of rolling-release Linux distros being far too unstable for enterprise use are relevant.

Virago Esteemer said:
but stop pretending that Linux isn't a mature as fuck project at this point (at least distros like Debian, Ubuntu and OpenSUSE which are easy to install and are LTE)
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I mentioned RHEL, SLES, and Ubuntu LTS as distros that are mature, stable, and relied upon by enterprises (nobody uses Debian). Replying to posts you didn't read in a thread you're not following is a hallowed tradition on the internet, I guess.

Oh yeah, welcome to the Farms, and stop being a faggot.
 
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The Ugly One said:
I was specifically talking about why enterprises don't use rolling-release distros, and specifically responding to a claim that all Linux distros are perfectly stable.



I mentioned RHEL, SLES, and Ubuntu LTS as distros that are mature, stable, and relied upon by enterprises. Replying to posts you didn't read in a thread you're not following is a hallowed tradition on the internet, I guess.

Oh yeah, welcome to the Farms, and stop being a faggot.
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I've been on the Farms before. I was @Tomboy Respecter. Anyways, I'm not a faggot. I'm retarded and proudly so.

Still though, I don't get why people hate the direction Windows and Apple are going in yet refuse to switch from them, especially since Windows 7 is not recieving security updates anymore (not to mention just flat out outdated at this point) and Micrsoft and Apple are only going to rev up their anti-consumer tendencies even more since normalfags are too dumb and helpless to so anything about it. For fuck's sake, I read somewhere in the EULA for Windows 11 that you don't even own your filea anymore and telemetry of all your files and programs is a default feature. This has gone past Windows 8's "we have a shitty UI due to hiring too many pajeets in the kitchen" and into "we see you as a source of income and don't try to escape our gay walled garden". It's amazing all the sources of cope people that have zero self respect or self awareness will come up with to not install Ubuntu.
 
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Because of this win11 shit and how dead the desktop linux scene is I'm seriously consider for the first time in decades to get a fucking mac.

The last time was when OSX was new and it looked like TNBT, until I actually used it...
 
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Pissmaster said:
MacOS is just as globohomo as Windows. It's a pick-your-poison ordeal
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Apple is not near as bad about the current Microsoft gripes but it is a different paradigm to keep in mind. They're not trying to shove advertisements in Finder, for example.
Very different company model altogether.

If I had to drop Linux, I'd move over to Apple and bitch about how overpriced it is. When I first tried Windows 8 I saw where things were heading and started shifting away with no regrets, using Windows at work is painful enough.
 
Aidan said:
Apple is not near as bad about the current Microsoft gripes but it is a different paradigm to keep in mind. They're not trying to shove advertisements in Finder, for example.
Very different company model altogether.

If I had to drop Linux, I'd move over to Apple and bitch about how overpriced it is. When I first tried Windows 8 I saw where things were heading and started shifting away with no regrets, using Windows at work is painful enough.
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They're just not as in-your-face. Have fun having all your software that's older than a few years old just suddenly not work one day, with the replacement being subscription-based.
 
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They're just not as in-your-face. Have fun having all your software that's older than a few years old just suddenly not work one day, with the replacement being subscription-based.
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What are you talking about?
 
Aidan said:
What are you talking about?
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Try installing Xcode on High Sierra right now, lol. There's a good amount of software that flat out refuses to install if you're on a Mac that's not supported by the newest version of the OS.

I used a Mac for a few years, and jumped right back to Windows.
 
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Try installing Xcode on High Sierra right now, lol. There's a good amount of software that flat out refuses to install if you're on a Mac that's not supported by the newest version of the OS.

I used a Mac for a few years, and jumped right back to Windows.
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Well yeah, that's part of their business model. They're shitty about not supporting older Apple devices. There are workarounds that exist but if you're Apple-ing then you're probably buying a new device every 4-5 years at least.

Fortunately I don't have to make the choice, I was primarily pointing out that Apple is less bad about the spying, the advertising, interrupting the user, retarded UI, etc compared to modern Microsoft.
 
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Isn't there also a thing in newer versions of MacOS where every single application launch calls home to Apple?
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They do a lot of telemetry, I don't actively keep up with it. It's kind of a copout to go "b-but apple!!!" when no one even knows quite what's in Windows telemetry except Microsoft.
 
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