Microsoft is fucking butthurt no one wants Windows 11 so they're stopping the sale of Windows 10 licenses this month

[Pissmaster]

They do a lot of telemetry, I don't actively keep up with it. It's kind of a copout to go "b-but apple!!!" when no one even knows quite what's in Windows telemetry except Microsoft.

If nobody knew, then there'd be no way to disable it all, and ShutUp10 couldn't exist. Just run that and an activation script, and you're good to go.

 

[Never Scored]

Because of this win11 shit and how dead the desktop linux scene is I'm seriously consider for the first time in decades to get a fucking mac.

The last time was when OSX was new and it looked like TNBT, until I actually used it...

I was curious about high end Chromebooks because I'd never fucked with one and I used a little bonus specifically for new tech at home we get from work every year to buy $500 Chromebook. This is a high end device as chromebooks go with a decent quality aluminum body, 8 gigs of ram and 128 gigs of onboard storage. You know what? It's actually a very viable option for home use depending on what you're doing.

Now look, it forces you to use an online account which I hate, so I can't outright advocate for it. However, Chrome OS as it exists now lets you install most Android apps, has a built in Linux environment that lets you install essentially anything you want and Steam functionality is currently in beta and works very well with 80% of the games I've thrown at it. On top of that, the OS itself is very secure because of how it sandboxes apps/The Linux environment.

What I'm saying here is the days where Chrome OS was essentially just a browser are long gone. It's not going to replace programs that only exist on Windows that you need for accounting or graphic design or whatever, but you know, if you just want to browse/watch YouTube, play some games on Steam and edit documents and stuff like that, it's rapidly becoming a very viable alternative.

I'd consider it at least before getting a Macbook which also requires you to have an online account to use these days. Telemetry is going to be part of the package with any modern major commercial OS, unfortunately.

 

[Aidan]

If nobody knew, then there'd be no way to disable it all, and ShutUp10 couldn't exist. Just run that and an activation script, and you're good to go.

It's not formally documented what Windows telemetry collects last I checked and it almost certainly changes without anyone knowing. What programs and scripts like that do is brutally disable what they can across the board which includes telemetry services. You'd need to see the telemetry to know what's in it.

Kinda sidestepping the point that just because Apple collects a lot of data doesn't mean anyone is better off on Windows. The respective OS's are spyware.

 

[The Ugly One]

Apple is not near as bad about the current Microsoft gripes but it is a different paradigm to keep in mind. They're not trying to shove advertisements in Finder, for example.
Very different company model altogether.

If I had to drop Linux, I'd move over to Apple and bitch about how overpriced it is. When I first tried Windows 8 I saw where things were heading and started shifting away with no regrets, using Windows at work is painful enough.

I would switch back to Mac in five seconds if the games worked.

But yeah, Apple is far worse than Windows about supporting software updates. Your old machine will work for a very long time, but nah, forget updates. "Buy a new computer or eat shit" is their business model.

 

[The-Patriarchy]

Micro$oft should just admit defeat, skip windows 11, and call it a wash until they get windows 12 out.

Never trust a man who is both "Micro" and "Soft" - dating him will only end in disappointment.

 

[Catgirls are Love]

Micro$oft should just admit defeat, skip windows 11, and call it a wash until they get windows 12 out.

That's assuming they don't double down, though.

I stayed on 7 as long as I possibly could, only finally moving to 10 very recently once Stable Diffusion stopped playing nice with 7. That said, it's less "moved to 10" and more "selecting the other installed operating system" because I feel no urge to stop dualbooting even after beating Windows 10 upside the head until it stopped doing all of the shit that annoys me (telemetry, ads, bloatware, automatic updates, extensive malware scans of EVERYTHING that accesses the hard drive that didn't come from their app store, etc...).

If I had to build/setup another computer today, it'd honestly be a coinflip as to whether I'd go with Windows 10 or give some Linux distro with Wine a chance to show its worth (I do hope Wine has greatly improved since I last used it on OS X). I don't like Microsoft's current trends and should they not reverse course then this is likely where I'm getting off.

 

[rareblacklobster]

Who can we hold responsible?

Jews

 

[Gender: Xenomorph]

I was curious about high end Chromebooks because I'd never fucked with one and I used a little bonus specifically for new tech at home we get from work every year to buy $500 Chromebook. This is a high end device as chromebooks go with a decent quality aluminum body, 8 gigs of ram and 128 gigs of onboard storage. You know what? It's actually a very viable option for home use depending on what you're doing.

Now look, it forces you to use an online account which I hate, so I can't outright advocate for it. However, Chrome OS as it exists now lets you install most Android apps, has a built in Linux environment that lets you install essentially anything you want and Steam functionality is currently in beta and works very well with 80% of the games I've thrown at it. On top of that, the OS itself is very secure because of how it sandboxes apps/The Linux environment.

What I'm saying here is the days where Chrome OS was essentially just a browser are long gone. It's not going to replace programs that only exist on Windows that you need for accounting or graphic design or whatever, but you know, if you just want to browse/watch YouTube, play some games on Steam and edit documents and stuff like that, it's rapidly becoming a very viable alternative.

I'd consider it at least before getting a Macbook which also requires you to have an online account to use these days. Telemetry is going to be part of the package with any modern major commercial OS, unfortunately.

8gigs of ram and 128 gigs of storage are not 'high end' what the fuck are you smoking?

My decade old laptop has 8 ram and 256 storage.

From what I've seen, you can buy any laptop with twice the specs for the same price of a Chromebook.

 

[The Ugly One]

8gigs of ram and 128 gigs of storage are not 'high end' what the fuck are you smoking?

My decade old laptop has 8 ram and 256 storage.

From what I've seen, you can buy any laptop with twice the specs for the same price of a Chromebook.

"You don't need RAM if you have an NVMe drive!"
"You don't need local storage if you have cloud!"

Literally downgrading your machine and calling it an upgrade.

 

[Pissmaster]

8gigs of ram and 128 gigs of storage are not 'high end' what the fuck are you smoking?

My decade old laptop has 8 ram and 256 storage.

From what I've seen, you can buy any laptop with twice the specs for the same price of a Chromebook.

I guess it's high end as far as Chromebooks go, but even my aging telephone has 256gb storage and 12gb RAM.

 

[Never Scored]

8gigs of ram and 128 gigs of storage are not 'high end' what the fuck are you smoking?

My decade old laptop has 8 ram and 256 storage.

It's high end for a Chromebook hence the term "High end Chromebook." Stop being an over reactionary faggot lol. Ram requirements are generally going to be lower for something running Chrome OS because there's less overhead.

"Hey, this would be a viable alternative for a lot of people."
*autistic screeching follows*

Some of you guys really do just like getting into gay slapfights, don't you?

 

[Car Won't Crank]

Some of you guys really do just like getting into gay slapfights, don't you?

It wouldn't be a Linux vs Windows thread without the frequent sound of slappin cheeks clappin an echo through mom's basement.

 

[TheBigZee]

Needed to reinstall windows 11 for someone. Bing knows what people want.

 

[Dirty Harry]

This is what I don't (and millions of others get)... I just got a throwaway laptop for $99 with 4gb of Ram and a slow processor for under 100 bucks but it runs Windows 11.

But my main desktop has 16gb of Ram, a much faster i5 processor, and won't let me "upgrade" to Windows 11 unless I do do the hack trick. And I'm not sure if the hack trick will keep accepting updates.

 

[Matt Damon]

Still though, I don't get why people hate the direction Windows and Apple are going in yet refuse to switch from them

Because (say it with me, everyone) Linux isn't compatible with the software I use.

 

[The Ugly One]

This is what I don't (and millions of others get)... I just got a throwaway laptop for $99 with 4gb of Ram and a slow processor for under 100 bucks but it runs Windows 11.

But my main desktop has 16gb of Ram, a much faster i5 processor, and won't let me "upgrade" to Windows 11 unless I do do the hack trick. And I'm not sure if the hack trick will keep accepting updates.

The issue is CPU features, not CPU performance. It's not just TPM 2.0, either, there are other things like HVCI support. The laundry list of features Microsoft is requiring is here:

Update on Windows 11 minimum system requirements

Windows Insiders, Today we’re releasing our first Insider build for Windows 11, and we’re looking forward to the insight that comes from you installing and using on a variety of your PCs. Last week’s

blogs.windows.com

Intel didn't apparently have all these features in the package until the 7th gen X-series. Every CPU from 8th gen on up qualifies.

 

[Geddy Lee's Fee and See]

Because (say it with me, everyone) Linux isn't compatible with the software I use.

WINE and virtual machines exist and they ate more than capable of running whatever you need. If WINE doesn't support it then VirtualBox does. There are very simple solutions to a lot of these problems.

 

[Kiwifarmsname]

WINE and virtual machines exist and they ate more than capable of running whatever you need. If WINE doesn't support it then VirtualBox does. There are very simple solutions to a lot of these problems.

We the consumers shouldn't have to put up with that shit. No offense to the people who make Linux distros and all that but the fear of my PC not being compatible scares me too. I really want to move from Linux on my desktop but I hate that I also can't delete Windows without formatting my drives.

 

[Matt Damon]

WINE and virtual machines exist and they ate more than capable of running whatever you need. If WINE doesn't support it then VirtualBox does. There are very simple solutions to a lot of these problems.

Or I can just run Windows and it's all much, much easier and simpler.

I don't see much upside to your "solution" unless you experience a sexual thrill at the very thought of running Linux.

 

[Geddy Lee's Fee and See]

Or I can just run Windows and it's all much, much easier and simpler.

I don't see much upside to your "solution" unless you experience a sexual thrill at the very thought of running Linux.

Whatever floats your boat faggot. If you want to be Microsoft's bitch, be my guest. I enjoy not having pajeets spy on me on an OS level and have been for 8 years. Apparently, you enjoy having a false sense of security in thedeclining quality of Microsoft's software ecosystem since Windows 7 and do the typical retarded cope of ease of use at the expense of your freedom and your privacy (which is funny since it's not even like installing a virtual machine on Linux is that hard. Literal script kiddies do it but I digress). You being as useless and idiotic as your average American is not my problem.

We the consumers shouldn't have to put up with that shit. No offense to the people who make Linux distros and all that but the fear of my PC not being compatible scares me too. I really want to move from Linux on my desktop but I hate that I also can't delete Windows without formatting my drives.

Literally just use Ubuntu. It's the most compatible Linux distro with most hardware very simple to install. You might have to do some search engine searches for particular drivers, but from my own experience, it was nothing too egregious. They even have a wiki that shows which hardware is compatible with the distro.

Also, it's not 1999. You can reaize your disks while you are instslling so you can dual boot Windows and Linux simultaneously if you wish. This has been a thing since the 2000s at least.