Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

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If for whatever reason you can't understand why a troon wants something (standing to pee, breastfeeding, periods, pregnancy) all it comes down to is HECKING VALIDATION! Cis men can stand to piss, so if I surgically wrap my arm flesh around a catheter and attach it to my mons... that means I can piss, and I AM HECKIN VALID DOODERINOS!!!

... Either that, or it's a fetish. Ezpz.
 
If for whatever reason you can't understand why a troon wants something (standing to pee, breastfeeding, periods, pregnancy) all it comes down to is HECKING VALIDATION! Cis men can stand to piss, so if I surgically wrap my arm flesh around a catheter and attach it to my mons... that means I can piss, and I AM HECKIN VALID DOODERINOS!!!

... Either that, or it's a fetish. Ezpz.
Most women can actually learn how to urinate standing up by positioning their fingers in a certain way, but I will leave a detailed explanation of that to the internet, as apparently situations such as disgusting public toilets and camping necessitate this from time to time.
 
This troon is upset he wasn't getting enough attention from his surgeon. He's finally given up on talking to him directly and plans to see a different surgeon in hopes for a revision. I didn't find pictures, I guess the results dont look good or they got removed/abandoned. The other troons that have used him also vanished or abandoned their purported updates from the surgeon. (A)
Troon's name is DearDeerEllie. Butcher is Dr. Roth.
He was initially happy with his butcher job since he could coom after rubbing it vigorously. His main complaint was that his piss sprays everywhere. He wanted his doctor to look at the urethra. However, each visit and check-up was met with "your uroflow looks great and you can void your bladder!" The butcher never checked his urethra.
The other complaint was that his canal was closing up since he couldn't get the bigger dilator in. Too tight, painful and bleeds.
This repeated until 9 months later the doctor put a glove on and didn't use lube to inspect the outer areas of his amhole. He refused to look into the stink-ditch.
The troon had enough and consulted with another surgeon who validates him more in another state. This doctor doesn't feel confident touching his amhole further since there's too much leftover erectile tissue and would need to use his colon if he really wants a revision. The butcher who did the amhole installation is of course, a GOOD surgeon. His follow-up care is just bad. :story:
One year & 4 months later: Giving up on Dr. Roth.
I've posted my experience with Dr. Roth in Indianapolis from my surgery on. (*Some of the posts might be from another account.) Initially, things were very positive! Depth was around 6 inches. My clit at least had some sensation - enough to orgasm it I rub the hell out of it for a while. Dilating initially went very well! I was able to take the middle dilator, which is (I believe) the Soul Source blue dilator. Aesthetics were pretty damn good considering! I initially recommended Roth as a competent surgeon for GCS, and I potentially could still ...
Let's take us to this point, step by step.
... Alas, his follow-up care and a few of his team for follow-up concerns have ignored every problem that I brought up. From month three on (my first followup), I expressed concern about the spray of my urine. It literally sprays all over the underside of my thighs and butt! The response was essentially, "The Uroflow curve looks great, and you are voiding your bladder!" His assistant, a woman, told me to, "Try and spread your legs open more and lean forward."
... Thanks! Good advice! My urethral area was never inspected or looked at following surgery beyond a Uroflow at every appointment.
I also brought up the tightness. A girl that had surgery just two weeks before me was already able to wiggle the largest BIG orange dilator in, and I couldn't make much progress above blue. When I tried, it was way too tight, and it hurt and bled. I brought up the tightness at my appointment. There was no exam for my canal. There was an outer exam of my vagina. The end.
... I guess it looked okay.
I brought these issues up again at my six month appointment. Once again, I was given the same thoughts: "Well, your Uroflow looks great. Lean forward and maybe spread your legs wider for urination, and as for the tightness? Just keep trying the bigger dilators. We will check again if the issue is still there at your nine month checkup."
This time, Dr. Roth put a medical glove on, and he examined my vulva, clit, and surrounding area. He did not lube a finger to examine the canal. He did not attempt an internal exam. I expressed concern that it felt like scar tissue. I was told they would check it at the next appointment.
... It was still a problem, and it was worse. My vaginal canal was getting tighter and tighter. I lost two inches of depth to the tightness and inability to get dilators where they needed to be. I was always hopeful at his words: "We will check it at the next appointment and address."
This appointment was about the same deal. Quick exam of the outside, and a photo for my chart. I was sent along with the same hope: "Well, this is the turn-around point. That tissue will start to really soften and stretch soon."
... Can you guess what happened at my year followup?
The only person that attended my year follow-up was his assistant. I'm going to be careful about specific names, but let's call this person Saammannndaa. Saammannndaa is the one that kept giving advice like, "Lean forward" and "spread wider when you pee." She is also the one that said multiple times when I complained about how long it takes to orgasm, "Welcome to being a woman!"
... I've been sexual with CIS women. I can tell you that my inability to get there when I'm in the mood and want to? That's not normal, and you are dismissive as hell. In fact, my entire complaint with this team has been dismissing.
I was upset at this appointment. I had been pushed aside too many times. I brought up EVERYTHING that I needed addressed - the scar tissue, the potential extra tissue around the urethral area, the excess erectile tissue.
Every point I made was met with a nonsense excuse, or a platitude about womanhood. When I brought up my loss of depth, there was zero discussion of how much I lost. She then paused, and said, "... Let me go talk to Roth and see what he wants to do."
My surgeon. The one that did my GCS. He was close by, in the building...and he didn't come to my follow-up.
I don't want to speculate, but I feel like he knew I wasn't happy with the excuses anymore. The general vibe I got in a year was that Dr. Roth generally does good work! His results are generally promising. However, if you are a patient that has any issues that require assistance to fix? Don't rely on his team to do it. Not without raising hell.
I'm writing this because I recently had a consult with another surgeon in Ohio. She was very confident, and very validating. The urethra was not placed correctly, and there is far too much tissue around the area that would cause my urine to spray.
There is excess tissue that comes up from the peritoneum and slightly covers my entrance with my legs spread at all. It creates this little 'shelf' of skin that impedes the entrance. The scar tissue will need addressed, and I will now need Botox shots in both sides of my pelvic muscles, because the inability to properly dilate has caused them to tighten over time - thus losing depth and elasticity.
The other concerns I brought up, and that she confirmed but didn't feel confident touching: There is too much erectile tissue left, (She is afraid that if she works on this, I could lose blood flow to my clit completely.) and she doesn't feel confident that depth revision will be something that she wants to do. It would require a graft from either another area of my body, or a section of colon. She wants to see what these other improvements might do for regaining some of my depth through dilation after.
I've spent a year frustrated with a part of me that I had to go through a hell of a lot to get.
You can't imagine what this consult has already done for my hope!
If you are a Roth patient and feel ignored, be louder! Threaten to get a separate consultation. Demand they address the issues, or get an administrator involved to mediate things.
I really feel that Dr. Roth is a good surgeon... His follow-up care is just horrible for anyone that ends up with complications. You might as well schedule your follow-up care with someone else, if you can.
Anyway... I'll post an update when I have a revision date, and I'll surely share from that!
I really hope this helps someone. ♥️
Keep strong!



Now for another troon with the name of RainbowsCrash. He wanted to post his 1 year results from the butcher Dr Al Kassis. (A)
3/7 last year was my date and I thought I should drop a 1 year post-op post.

The last year has been great and in the last couple months I started dating another woman (cis). We've sonce become sexually active and have discovered that I can get really wet from it. No, it's not from my vaginal canal, but she's jealous and it really helps when we're having fun so there's no awful tasting lube involved.

I don't really know what else to add and am happy to answer any questions people may have either here or in DM's.

No idea what the hell is making him wet and I doubt the woman he's with is real to claim jealousy over a stink-ditch's lubrication.

This one posted a few photos. It looks more like a bifurcated gunt. Then when he spreads it open it looks like a wart is his "clit". He also has hair growing inside his stink-ditch.
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I cannot understand the obsession that many MTFs have with wanting to have one as it seems like a real hassle for women to go through and I do not envy them for it.
The obsession with these troons is it helps them live out the fetish or they think it makes them the opposite sex. They think if they bleed from their crotch it makes them more womanly. For the TIFs they think if they can stand to pee it makes them men. They are all fucked in the head.
 
Because as much as I wish I could, and have tried, it is something that I can't change.
So the next best thing is to learn to live with it with as few surgeries as possible.

Things aren't always so black and white you know :)
You're adapting yourself to the wrong "reality" (ie one that is not actually reality.)

The reality is: you can't change your sex. Whatever you were born is, that's what you are. You can dress up and method act as something else. You can get crude surgical approximation of the features of the opposite sex stapled onto your body. (At the expense of tens of thousands of dollars and not being able to coom or pee normally, possibly getting painful complications, neuropathy, lymphedema, you name it.)

But at the end of the day, all these surgeries and hormones can make is a mutilated man or a mutilated woman, a grotesque weirdo who doesn't really look like they belong anywhere.

So what do you do when you want something that is an impossibility? When you want to live in the deep sea, but you were not born an angler fish. When you want to date Jody Foster but she's just not that into you. When you want to stop grandpa from dying, but he's old and he's sick, and he just dies?

You could throw yourself into the ocean and drown. You could shoot Ronald Reagan and go to jail. You could carry grandpa's dead body around in the bed of your truck and prop it up to talk to it, until the cops catch up to you.

Or you could grow the fuck up and cope with actual reality. You're a human, and can't be a fish. But you can visit them at the zoo, buy an aquarium for your home to keep them as pets, and watch David Attenborough specials on the deep sea. You can't have Jody, but you can watch Contact and maybe find a nice girl who has a lot of traits in common with her. You have to say goodbye to grandpa, but you can honor his memory and keep it alive by taking up one of his hobbies or duties.

Trooning out is the shooting Reagan option. It just proves you are batshit insane, guarantees Jody Foster will never look at you, and destroys your life (and does quite the number on the lives of those who care about you).
 
Because as much as I wish I could, and have tried, it is something that I can't change.
So the next best thing is to learn to live with it with as few surgeries as possible.

Things aren't always so black and white you know :)
Nobody says that you have to take up the stereotypical hobbies or interests of that of most men or women. Until the "trans" movement, I thought that we were supposed to be getting away from being restricted by gender stereotypes. Liking the color pink, being emotionally sensitive, or floral prints on decorations does not magically mean that you are going to stop being male if you are one, just like working on cars, watching football, or not wearing cosmetics does not mean that you are not a woman if you are one.

Being male or female are immutably biological traits, and therefore cannot be changed. However, this does not mean that this should dictate what people's interests are. If a man likes to wear dresses, fine, if that is how he likes to roll, but he cannot change the fact he is a man, and should not be allowed in spaces or sporting events restricted for women and should still be referred to as he/him; just like a woman binding her breasts and wearing a fake beard will always be a woman, and is she/her and should not be allowed in men's bathrooms or male-only clubs.

People's pronouns should refer to what they actually are, not what they want to be, as I can call myself Napoleon, but that does not make me Napoleon regardless if I believe I am Napoleon or not, so why should the pronoun issue be any different?
 
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Oh, and apparently “plenty of Cis people get these surgeries!”
Is she trying to refer to the rare cases of people who have had to have their genitals surgically-reconstructed due to injury or being amputated from something like cancer?

Now that is something I do wonder about...we talk so much about troons fucking up their genitals from SRS here that I wonder what can be done for people who have lost theirs due to unfortunate circumstances...and it is hard to search for examples because almost all of the results you get are that of troons getting SRS.
 
these women totally ignore the harder and less tangible aspects of manhood: Integrity, honesty, responsibility, industriousness, respect in favor of cringe parodies.
Just like MtFs ignore what women really are perform a parody of womanhood.
There’s a link where both groups have made a categorisation error. They think ‘a woman is like this (list of superficial traits like hair and makeup and skirts) but I don’t like makeup and skirt. Thus I am not a woman. IF NOT woman THEN man. Must become man.
They lack the theory of mind maybe, but they lack the ability to realise that ‘woman’ isn’t a dress up with skirts and makeup but a biological category. A woman is a thing you are, not things you do.
Same applies for men. I suspect there’s a specific subset of people who are especially vulnerable to the trans ideology.
@cowgoesmoo Pimozide cures dysphoria fast so if you truly want to get rid of gender dysphoria you could discuss taking it with your doctor? (Not medical advice.)
 
A lot of FTMs also want to stop their periods, either out of some disgust with themselves for being female or out of convenience.

However, as inconvenient and unpleasant as periods sound, there are much easier ways to stop it than the methods that FTMs resort to....and being male, I cannot understand the obsession that many MTFs have with wanting to have one as it seems like a real hassle for women to go through and I do not envy them for it.
RE MTFs bizarre desire for a period- natch there’s the fetishy aspect- womens!vaginas!privacy!blood-yuck=moreTaboo!- but then there’s possibly the biggest reason they want it..

Because it’s something we women have “got” that they haven’t, and shit as it is, they can’t stand it-
There’s something like, the worst meanest aspect of toddler level psychology at play in Tims-
They don’t want their toy- they want yours because it’s yours.

They must have everything, how dare you say they can’t have it, aren’t “allowed” it because of trifling “biological reality”.

They are autist collectors. It doesn’t matter that they have a room full of untouched Transformers toys on shelves- they want this new one that costs another $50, the idea of even questioning this desire is a inconceivable.
They are all consooming
 
A TiF on r/phallo has made a post asking about what bucket list things they want to do after they get a penis.
Link
There isn't too many comments yet but here's everything so far:
  • Helicoptering
  • Skinny dipping in a river
  • Pissing name into snow.
  • Pissing into one of the giant trough-style urinals at the local renaissance festival
  • Multiple day camping trips,
  • long hikes
  • rock climbing
  • peeing in urinals
  • seeing my bulge in different types of pants
  • being naked
  • literally everything lol just being completely present in my body and not feeling inferior to cis guys in everything I do
  • pictures of just my dick in my pants
  • I want to go to a nude beach
  • Road head
 
A TiF on r/phallo has made a post asking about what bucket list things they want to do after they get a penis.
Link
There isn't too many comments yet but here's everything so far:
  • Helicoptering
  • Skinny dipping in a river
  • Pissing name into snow.
  • Pissing into one of the giant trough-style urinals at the local renaissance festival
  • Multiple day camping trips,
  • long hikes
  • rock climbing
  • peeing in urinals
  • seeing my bulge in different types of pants
  • being naked
  • literally everything lol just being completely present in my body and not feeling inferior to cis guys in everything I do
  • pictures of just my dick in my pants
  • I want to go to a nude beach
  • Road head
Not a fetish btw, I need all this to feel like my true self!
 
  • rock climbing

surely having a flayed arm would make this basically impossible? don't you need really good strength and fine motor control in both hands for climbing? i think they might discover what that nerve and artery they harvested were actually for.

has anyone told them you can enjoy the great outdoors without mutilating yourself? in fact it would likely be better for their mental health than surgery. especially the poor girl who thinks an operation will stop 'feeling inferior.' maybe a lobotomy would.
 
surely having a flayed arm would make this basically impossible? don't you need really good strength and fine motor control in both hands for climbing? i think they might discover what that nerve and artery they harvested were actually for.

has anyone told them you can enjoy the great outdoors without mutilating yourself? in fact it would likely be better for their mental health than surgery. especially the poor girl who thinks an operation will stop 'feeling inferior.' maybe a lobotomy would.
Apparently women can't go camping multiple days at a time. I literally, do not understand this.
 
Apparently women can't go camping multiple days at a time. I literally, do not understand this.
no we cannot. we are supposed to be at home cooking and doing our makeup.

it never crossed my mind on camping/hiking trips that i shouldn't be doing this without first installing a rotdog. getting a complication in the middle of nowhere would be exciting i guess.

do these women not know a single woman who has done these activities? or do they think they must all have suppressed gender dysphoria due to internalised transphobia?
 
Apparently women can't go camping multiple days at a time. I literally, do not understand this.
I know it’s a slight inconvenience to pop off trail and find a tree to piss behind but I’ve done multi day hikes carrying everything I need and managed to urinate just fine.
And there is no way she’s rock climbing. Nothing past a spot of scrambling up something easy with that done to her arm. Even a nice diff or v diff easy route will be impossible.
She will find it’s harder to go multi day camping in fact. The piss will spray more, she will be far more prone to UTIs etc. goodness knows what would happen to a rot dog if it chafed your pants for a week hiking ten hours a day.
Do I even want to ask what ‘road head’ is?
 
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