Authorities Reinstate Alcohol Ban for Aboriginal Australians


Geoff Shaw cracked open a beer, savoring the simple freedom of having a drink on his porch on a sweltering Saturday morning in mid-February in Australia’s remote Northern Territory.

“For 15 years, I couldn’t buy a beer,” said Mr. Shaw, a 77-year-old Aboriginal elder in Alice Springs, the territory’s third-largest town. “I’m a Vietnam veteran, and I couldn’t even buy a beer.”

Mr. Shaw lives in what the government has deemed a “prescribed area,” an Aboriginal town camp where from 2007 until last year it was illegal to possess alcohol, part of a set of extraordinary race-based interventions into the lives of Indigenous Australians.
Last July, the Northern Territory let the alcohol ban expire for hundreds of Aboriginal communities, calling it racist. But little had been done in the intervening years to address the communities’ severe underlying disadvantage. Once alcohol flowed again, there was an explosion of crime in Alice Springs widely attributed to Aboriginal people. Local and federal politicians reinstated the ban late last month. And Mr. Shaw’s taste of freedom ended.

From the halls of power in the nation’s capital to ramshackle outback settlements, the turmoil in the Northern Territory has revived hard questions that are even older than Australia itself, about race and control and the open wounds of discrimination.

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A man and woman sitting on a shaded porch look down at a small dog the man is holding.

“For 15 years, I couldn’t buy a beer,” said Geoff Shaw, shown with his partner, Eileen Hoosan, at their home in Alice Springs.Credit...Tamati Smith for The New York Times


For those who believe that the country’s largely white leadership should not dictate the decisions of Aboriginal people, the alcohol ban’s return replicates the effects of colonialism and disempowers communities. Others argue that the benefits, like reducing domestic violence and other harms to the most vulnerable, can outweigh the discriminatory effects.

For Mr. Shaw, the restrictions are simply a distraction — another Band-Aid for communities that, to address problems at their roots, need funding and support and to be listened to.

“They had nothing to offer us,” he said. “And they had 15 years to sort this out.”

The liquor restrictions prohibit anyone who lives in Aboriginal town camps on the outskirts of Alice Springs, as well as those in more remote Indigenous communities, from buying takeaway alcohol. The town itself is not included in the ban, though Aboriginal people there often face more scrutiny in trying to buy liquor.

One recent day at Uncle’s Tavern, in the center of Alice Springs, patrons — almost all of them non-Indigenous — drank beneath palm trees strung with lights. In the town of 25,000, it seemed as if everyone had a friend, relative or neighbor who had been the victim of an assault, a break-in or property destruction.

As night fell, Aboriginal people who walked the otherwise empty streets were separated from the pub’s patrons by a fence with tall black bars, like something out of a prison. Sometimes, those outside pressed up against the bars; children asked for money for food, and adults for cigarettes or alcohol. The pub’s gate was open, but there were unspoken barriers to entry for the people outside.

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White Australians have not faced the same alcohol restrictions as Aboriginal people.Credit...Tamati Smith for The New York Times

Two women in the back of a pickup truck on a beach watch a third woman emerge from the water, as a man with a baseball cap opens the vehicle door.

Many Aboriginal people travel into town for basic services from the remote communities where they live, in conditions more akin to those of a developing country. Some Indigenous leaders in and around Alice Springs attribute the spike in crime to these visitors.
In the daytime, they were often the only people sitting in public spaces, with nowhere to go to escape the blistering heat. One Aboriginal visitor to Alice Springs, Gloria Cooper, said she had traveled hundreds of miles for medical treatment and was camping in a nearby dry creek bed because she couldn’t afford a place to stay on her welfare income.

“Lots of people in the creek,” she said. “Lots of children.”

The roots of the 15-year alcohol ban were a national media firestorm that erupted in 2006 over a handful of graphic and highly publicized allegations of child sexual abuse in the Northern Territory.

Many of the allegations were later found to be baseless. But just months before a federal election, the conservative prime minister at the time used them to justify a draconian set of race-based measures. Among them were the alcohol restrictions, along with mandatory income management for welfare recipients and restrictions on Indigenous people’s rights to manage land that they owned.

Now, the debate has flared up again at another politically charged moment, as Australia begins to discuss constitutionally enshrining a “voice to Parliament” — an Indigenous body that would advise on policies that affect Aboriginal communities.

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An Aboriginal town camp in Alice Springs. Little has been done to address Indigenous communities’ severe underlying inequality.Credit...Tamati Smith for The New York Times


Opponents have used the Alice Springs debate to argue that the proposal distracts from practical issues facing Indigenous communities. Supporters say that such a body would have allowed more consultation with affected residents and prevented the problem from escalating.

Indigenous leaders say that the roots of the dysfunction in their communities run deep. A lack of job opportunities has left poverty entrenched, which in turn has exacerbated family violence. Soaring Indigenous incarceration rates have left parents locked away and children adrift. Government controls on Aboriginal people’s lives, imposed without consultation, have bred resentment and hopelessness. Add alcohol to the mix, and the problems only mount.

“We’ve never had our own choice and decision making, our lives have been controlled by others,” said Cherisse Buzzacott, who works to improve Indigenous families’ health literacy. Because of this, she added, those in the most disadvantaged communities “don’t have belief changes can change; they don’t have hope.”

Some Indigenous leaders oppose the alcohol ban on these grounds, arguing that it continues the history of control of Aboriginal communities. Others say that their own contributions to the community show why blanket bans are unfair.

“Some of my mob, some are workers and some are just sitting down, haven’t got a job,” said Benedict Stevens, the president of the Hidden Valley town camp, using a colloquial term for an Aboriginal group. “And what I’m saying is it wouldn’t be fair for us workers to not be able to go back home during the weekends, relax, have some beers.”

Before the alcohol ban expired last year, a coalition of Aboriginal and non-Aboriginal organizations predicted that a sudden free flow of alcohol would produce a sharp rise in crime. They called for the restrictions to be extended so affected communities could have time to develop individualized transition plans.

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A sign listing rules for entering an Aboriginal town camp looms over a gated entrance. An expanse of trees and grass extends beyond the sign.

A sign stating that alcohol is prohibited in a town camp.Credit...Tamati Smith for The New York Times


The predictions proved accurate. According to the Northern Territory police, commercial breaks-ins, property damage, assaults related to domestic violence and alcohol-related assaults all rose by about or by more than 50 percent from 2021 to 2022. Australia does not break down crime data by race, but politicians and Aboriginal groups themselves have attributed the increase largely to Indigenous people.

“This was a preventable situation,” said Donna Ah Chee, the chief executive of one of these organizations, the Central Australian Aboriginal Congress. “It was Aboriginal women, families and children that were actually paying the price,” she added.

The organization was among those that called for a resumption of the ban as an immediate step while long-term solutions were developed to address the underlying drivers of destructive drinking. Ms. Ah Chee said she considered the policy to be “positive discrimination” in protecting those most vulnerable.

What Indigenous leaders on all sides of the debate agreed on was that long-term strategies were needed to address the complex disadvantages facing Indigenous communities.

The problems in Alice Springs were caused by decades of failing to listen to Indigenous people, said William Tilmouth, an Aboriginal elder. The answers, he added, would be found when “politicians and the public looked beyond the alcohol. What they will find is people with voice, strength and solutions waiting to be heard.”
 
It doesn't work for the Inuit and their communities are literally in the middle of nowhere. People will buy smuggled liquor at an insane markup. I don't think it will work for Aus Aboriginals either. They need to stop with these liquor bans. It didn't work during Prohibition and it's not going to work now for natives.
 
It doesn't work for the Inuit and their communities are literally in the middle of nowhere. People will buy smuggled liquor at an insane markup. I don't think it will work for Aus Aboriginals either. They need to stop with these liquor bans. It didn't work during Prohibition and it's not going to work now for natives.
Some people will pay a markup for a smuggled fifth, other people will spend the same money getting two handles at the store for the same price.

Dry communities in Alaska clearly feel like they're getting ahead of the problem. And that's Natives telling other Natives no, unlike what seems to be the case in Australia.
 
I'm hoping we can get another epic romance/adventure from this racial injustice. Just when you think the DTs are going to kill someone, modern Drover sweeps in with a jeep full of malt liquor.
 
7am beers are delicious and perfectly acceptable in my opinion, provided you're sipping the breakfast beer in between casts of a fishing rod. Alcoholic behavior does not count if you are currently spending the day fishing.
It's true, there are exceptions. For example, you can drink at any time if you're in an airport. That's just common sense.
 
Not wanting the mass extermination of a group of people for merely existing is not simping some abos are indeed killers and rapists but most are just normal people things like this are a distraction from real problems.
I can agree with this, a lot of dealing with native populations are not to address any of the issues, its about getting political clout. Once clout has been achieved then they tend to be forgotten while the bandaid fixes & handouts just make shit worse.
The problem is that to address real problems, you have to admit that they are different from whites, and as you know you just can't do this. So the horror continues.
 
If I were made a benevolent dictator one of the few undeniable uses of government overreach I would enact is a ban on wussy party alcohols/high ABV Cordials. Products like the disgusting Fireball Whiskey, Crown Royal Apple and Skrewball Peanut Butter flavored whiskey. Also a ban on disgusting white trash shit like Four Loko.

A respectable alcoholic lives on beer/wine and Vodka, Whiskey, Tequila, etc. Wussy glorified cordials are in my opinion a danger to society as their high alcohol concentration plus candy like taste make it a favorite among teenagers and young adults.

I have a historical example of this. In 18th Century England there was the Gin Craze and everyone especially the poor was getting shitfaced on that stuff. The government started taxing the shit out of Gin and that drove the Gin manufacturers to improve the product. During the Gin craze what was popular was "Old Tom Gin" which was essentially shitty Gin topped with sugar so you couldn't tell it was made in a bathtub.

In my view recreational drugs need to be accessible and tightly regulated. To any young Kiwis I say only drink top shelf or what to you
is measurably top shelf. It's way harder to murder a bottle if it feels like it cost you a pretty penny.
 
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In case people missed this part:
The organization was among those that called for a resumption of the ban as an immediate step while long-term solutions were developed to address the underlying drivers of destructive drinking. Ms. Ah Chee said she considered the policy to be “positive discrimination” in protecting those most vulnerable.

The organization being the Central Australian Aboriginal Congress.
Congress was the second organisation of Aboriginal people formed in the region (CAALAS was formed the morning of the same day) and one of the first in Australia.

In case it needs pointing out, the abos are the ones who asked for the ban to be reinstated.

To add to all this, they KNOW that they are occupied and will NEVER get back their territories and ancestral way of life. It's over.
Umm yeah dude, not in Australia it ain't. That's what the 'Voice' is all about, a Jewish headed group, who is spear heading the easiest way to get white people to give up everything they own.

The Voice will enable abos to claim any land they like, and whatever white man 'owns' that property at present, will either have to pay a yearly 'rent' for the priviledge of paying a mortgage and being able to call that property home; or if they refuse to pay the rent, they will have give up their property to the abos, no compensation as 'they were here first and have sacred spiritual links that someone somewhere made up (no not all but a great many) to enable the native title claim'.
 
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This usually happens because Eskimos (whatever you want to call them) are notoriously ill-equipped to handle alcohol and are genetically predisposed to becoming raging alcoholics.
All "indians" cant handle alcohol. Reservations in the US are quite literally filled with nothing but extreme alcoholics and thats no exaggeration. And of course all the associated problems like domestic violence, broken families, diabetes/liver disease etc. come with it.

The Maori on the other hand were in New Zealand for at most 600 years, and still built a decent society.
You mean the Maori that happily practiced genocide?
 
All "indians" cant handle alcohol. Reservations in the US are quite literally filled with nothing but extreme alcoholics and thats no exaggeration. And of course all the associated problems like domestic violence, broken families, diabetes/liver disease etc. come with it.
Yeah. The explanation I've heard is that they didn't have centuries of alcohol consumption to weed out the weak genes that were more prone to alcoholism, like they did in Europe. This leads to catastrophic side effects when they are introduced to the crack cocaine of alcohol (whiskey and other liquors).
 
All "indians" cant handle alcohol. Reservations in the US are quite literally filled with nothing but extreme alcoholics and thats no exaggeration. And of course all the associated problems like domestic violence, broken families, diabetes/liver disease etc. come with it.
They also generally live in the middle of nowhere and there's just no human development. Such a depressing environment to stop at a reservation and it's just dirt & squalor with with a shop or two to buy "Indian Souvenoirs" I bet are made in a chinese sweatshop. Who wouldn't want to just drink booze all day if you lived there? Love this old video from John Stossel, he might be a libertarian shill but I can't find anyone disputing the claims made.

In all sinceity it does seem that for Native Americans it has been a geographic crapshoot. The tribes that had land that could easily be used for good business certainly appear to be doing well. Some tribes wound up getting land adjacent to cities, they built smoke shops, resort getaways, golf courses, now they're doing cannabis dispensaries! I don't know anyone from the Morongo tribe but I sure as hell hope the few thousand people entitled to royalties (or whatever they call it) are doing okay.

As for the Abbos I can't find any information but I wonder could the reservation land they do have be used for something? I feel sympathetic because to my understanding Australia (the continent) is largely hostile to civilization but it really does seem they're also just too damn lazy to make something out of themselves.
Yeah. The explanation I've heard is that they didn't have centuries of alcohol consumption to weed out the weak genes that were more prone to alcoholism, like they did in Europe. This leads to catastrophic side effects when they are introduced to the crack cocaine of alcohol (whiskey and other liquors).
Making (shitty) alcohol is a pretty early human development trait and the internet claims Tribes had their own stuff. You find an abundance of fruit that you and your group devour all of, it goes bad but you keep it because who knows in a few weeks those berries might be appetizing again. Then you finally decide to eat it and it makes you feel good.

I think alcohol abuse just goes hand and hand with depression. Life fucking sucks and the alcohol numbs the pain. I don't think any group functions well with heavy alcoholism.
 
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They also generally live in the middle of nowhere and there's just no human development. Such a depressing environment to stop at a reservation and it's just dirt & squalor with with a shop or two to buy "Indian Souvenoirs" I bet are made in a chinese sweatshop. Who wouldn't want to just drink booze all day if you lived there? Love this old video from John Stossel, he might be a libertarian shill but I can't find anyone disputing the claims made.
Beacuse indians are either horribly stupid, or insanely corrupt. Weve spent tens of billions(likely over a hundred billion when you factor in all the insane gibs they get) over the decades providing for them and they have next to nothing to show for it.

For example;


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I always love seeing the small-government, taxation is theft, 2nd amendment posters simping for restricting personal freedoms. If communities want to be “dry” then that’s one thing, but I don’t think many people here would be really happy if precedents on restricting freedoms based on race or birthplace become widespread in the developed world.
Okay okay but what if abos aren't a separate race but a separate species?

Anyways slightly off topic but one of my favorite things about abos was back in the day when I was reading about '100 massacres of abos by evil settlers' and 99 out of 100 of them started with 'a group of abos attacked unprovoked...'
 
I always love seeing the small-government, taxation is theft, 2nd amendment posters simping for restricting personal freedoms. If communities want to be “dry” then that’s one thing, but I don’t think many people here would be really happy if precedents on restricting freedoms based on race or birthplace become widespread in the developed world.
I always love seeing retards who think petrol huffing, perpetually drunk, loud, impulsive, illiterate retards like abos are "people" when they can't even understand the concept of "individual liberty".
 
It doesn't work for the Inuit and their communities are literally in the middle of nowhere. People will buy smuggled liquor at an insane markup. I don't think it will work for Aus Aboriginals either. They need to stop with these liquor bans. It didn't work during Prohibition and it's not going to work now for natives.
Obviously the bans worked since crime spiked AFTER they were lifted.
 
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