Ukrainian Defensive War against the Russian Invasion - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

Putin finally visits Crimea/Sevastopol; (tinfoil wearing vatniks & hohols insist it's his body-double).



If it's him or not doesn't interest me as much as his security detail's lackadaisical demeanor & composition does.
 
Goofy translation aside, the whole thing is funny and dumb. Apparently the drone survived the crash intact enough for them to recover exploitable technology, including software, because the Americans didn't have enough time to zeroize a few bytes of key material. There's just a whole MQ-9 on the sea floor waiting for them to haul it up, turn it back on, and teach it Russian.
There were quite a few crashes of MQ-9 drones, including ones over hostile territories. If tech in these drones was of high importance to Russia, it most likely has it already. Russians could simply use wrecks of reapers that crashed over Syria years ago to do that. This wreckage's main use will probably be for propaganda purposes. Retrieving that drone from over 4000 feet deep and salvaging it after a salt water bath and collision damage will take some effort and expense.

The point of ICC decision is more aimed towards lesser ruzzkie officials, like that batshit crazy guacamola nightmare Lvova-Belova (facts: married at 18 with a ex-priest, 5 kids before 30 yo, 18 more kids adopted - if that chick is sane and her housband isnt a pedo I have balls on forhead).
If ICC will make such decisions against other putins pets like that idiot from ruzzkie TV or officials from their MoD, it will be effictively fucking them into asses - they will not have a option to make a tour into any of european countries, most of American countries, more than half of Africa, Mongolia and even some ex-soviet republics in Central Asia.
It might sting them especially bad because the Mediterranean and Western Europe are the Russian elites' favorite playgrounds. Now some of these people might be afraid that they could lose access to their expensive vacation homes abroad, and that their yacht trips to Monaco might soon be a thing of the past. Holing down somewhere in South America if this war ends badly for Russia could be risky too.
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The court case drives a wedge between Russia and potential allies such as Brazil, South Africa. It makes Russia more reliant on India and China, who are going to be driving tough deals.
Not only that. Even countries like China and India might think twice before letting Putin in or advocating for him just so they do not risk their relations with the west. China needs the West as its export market and a place for CCP elites to park their wealth. India needs the West to counteract China before Chinese allies completely encircle India.
Russia will have to offer them something that outweighs a diplomatic hit for playing along with Putin and his government.
Another effect of this will be on support for Putin with Europe. Now Orban and Macron might be less eager to maintain their relations with Putin. Developing new relations might be tougher too after Russian head of state joined the ranks of Gaddafi and Milošević. Lastly, this could be seen as West's signaling how they are expecting this conflict to end and that relations with Russia might not be normalized until Putin is handed over.
 
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>But seriously, you're going to call a mother of 23 children a war criminal because she adopted an orphan from Mariupol and moved children to safer zones in Russia so they won't get shelled? I hate how morally incomprehensible the West is.

Boy, if you think that, considering the overall degeneracy of the Russian elite, they are well taken care of, then I've got a bridge to sell to that fella. That crazy woman also has 8 children, if I remember correctly, being married to a Russian Orthodox monk/former programmer. Do they have the space alone to host so many children? If so, I'd like to see her bank and tax statement. What's that? According to the Russian law, bureaucrats tax info is now considered a state secret? Color me surprised.

And yeah, children aren't your property, even if they're orphans in another country.

Imagine being delusional for so long, that you must present a literal kidnapping as a morally laudable thing to do.
Whatever happened to these people bitching about white genocide? Something tells me they don't really give a shit about actual genocide and just use the term because they want to feel like victims...

And yes, Russia's actions fit the definition of genocide.
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
  1. Killing members of the group;
  2. Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
  3. Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
  4. Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
  5. Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

I seriously, unironically think a lot of the people who dickride Russia are legit sociopaths who don't give a shit about the suffering of others
 
This wreckage's main use will probably be for propaganda purposes.
I figure the worst case scenario is that Russia is able to analyze the drone and determine various qualities of its spying capabilities and change their communications protocols accordingly. They may be able to determine 'ok, this communication method is pretty secure' or 'ok, this communication method may be more vulnerable than we thought'. A relatively minor setback, but enough to be annoying to the intelligence community for a few months. The US will have to assume everything is compromised and reevaluate confidence in all intercepts.
 
MiGs to Ukraine arc.


It would be interesting to see if these things were stuffed with modern Western instruments and sensors.
lol no, the Slovak ones haven't had AAM missiles in years the only weapon system that works is the cannon, the polish ones can't be in much better state. The Russian maintainers left in March of 2022, and the Israeli's have cut off support for the avionics.

The only reason the Poles and Slovaks didn't donate them before now, is that they were hoping the US would give the F16's in return.
 
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If it's him or not doesn't interest me as much as his security detail's lackadaisical demeanor & composition does.
Do you think he's someone that can have switched on capable people with loaded weapons around him. They might decide to Indira Gandhi him.
 
I figure the worst case scenario is that Russia is able to analyze the drone and determine various qualities of its spying capabilities and change their communications protocols accordingly. They may be able to determine 'ok, this communication method is pretty secure' or 'ok, this communication method may be more vulnerable than we thought'. A relatively minor setback, but enough to be annoying to the intelligence community for a few months. The US will have to assume everything is compromised and reevaluate confidence in all intercepts.
Even if it had a SIGINT package, they're not going to get anything that useful out of it. They could maybe figure out the kinds of transmissions that could be intercepted with the hardware, but they won't learn anything about cryptanalytic attacks, stolen keys, targets, keyword searches, anything with counterintelligence value.
 
Man Slavic arcade crane games are wild.
Speaking of....

That particular video caused all sorts of salt to flow; vatniks said it was their drone, while hohols insisted it was Ukrainian & released the entire unedited video to prove it. But the vatniks slapped a watermark on it first, so.....

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Least schizophrenic Zigger.
I remember a Ukrainian on /pol/ commenting at the start of the war that Ukrainians live Rent Free in the head of every Russian because they simply cannot keep their national mythology and the existence of the Ukrainians in the same head space. This past year has convinced me that Hohol was right.

Okay but for real this time
Has Bakhmut fallen yet? What is the situation on the ground? TF
Another division of Hohols were slaughtered today, and Zelensky keeps finding more to send even after every last hohol was killed last month. Fortunately there has been another breakthrough and the city should fall in 2 weeks.
 
Another division of Hohols were slaughtered today, and Zelensky keeps finding more to send even after every last hohol was killed last month. Fortunately there has been another breakthrough and the city should fall in 2 weeks.

Ah, good! After a few months of similar posts, i was getting worried that it wasnt true.
Russia is very cleverly using Bakhmut to grind down Ukrainian troops, doing offensive actions without meaningful force multipliers into a fortified urban area against defenders that probably have higher morale is a sure way to win!

And after 100k Ukrainians are dead in Bakhmut, 2000 T-90s that has been stored in the Ural mountains will be rolled in and make quick work of the fascist nazist bandera regime :smug:
 
Ah, good! After a few months of similar posts, i was getting worried that it wasnt true.
Russia is very cleverly using Bakhmut to grind down Ukrainian troops, doing offensive actions without meaningful force multipliers into a fortified urban area against defenders that probably have higher morale is a sure way to win!

And after 100k Ukrainians are dead in Bakhmut, 2000 T-90s that has been stored in the Ural mountains will be rolled in and make quick work of the fascist nazist bandera regime :smug:
They've unironically claimed they destroyed Leopard tanks with Polish Mercenaries in Bakhmut too.

 
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