Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

It's starting to look like Disney's preemptively getting ready to pull the plug and head into survival mode. This level of quality drop for your flagship shows is not the mark of a healthy company.
Season 4 definitely happening at the very least. I can see that being the final one, especially given how Din's back in the Mando cult again and we're seemingly getting Grogu's backstory soon.

(Source: https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/the-mandalorian-season-4-written-ahsoka-1235531752/)
 

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At this point I really hope there is some pre-Disney version of Wookiepedia achieved somewhere.
All I've been able to find are some european and russian wikis.

Closest things I have to something like a pre-disney english wiki are a bunch official pdf guides that are specific to certain categories like ships, droids and aliens, along with interviews and artbooks by George, Anderson, McQuarrie and Rinzler, the Essential Atlas and the Unofficial Star Wars encyclopedia pdf, but even the unofficial encyclopedia is just two-sentences long entries despite being more complete than the official 2010 encyclopedia. I can share most of these if anyone wants them, and the art books are great even if you aren't a fan of SW, but you'll have to PM me for the download links.

@Dixieland Buckaroo iirc you mentioned you had some kind of archive of pre-Disney Wookieepedia, right? Is there any way that can be shared or viewed on your desktop or converted into some kind of pdf?

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This guy on exhentai is uploading a bunch of the essential guides to star wars. I'm going to keep going on my coomer rampage but if anyone wants to check it out and archive it too then I'm leaving you this link: https://exhentai.org/uploader/8077513
If you can't access it I'll give you instructions if you DM me.
Doing Panda God's work. Weird, but clever, especially since the site isn't easily accessible. Probably the only faster alternative for Star Wars pdfs now since Hungry-Ewok got taken down.
 
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@Dixieland Buckaroo iirc you mentioned you had some kind of archive of pre-Disney Wookieepedia, right? Is there any way that can be shared or viewed on your desktop or converted into some kind of pdf?
I do have a couple of versions but it's a MediaWiki database, so not terribly useful for human reading at present. I've handed it off to my good friend, who I shall refer to as Darth Dix. I actually met him at Disneyland this past week (report to come in due time). I'll give him a poke and see if he's progressed anywhere with it.

That said, don't expect any miracles, just that someday a Star Wars EU wiki shows up (aka sans Disney and probably Clone Wars and also TOR), and probably a ton of borked images at first.

Will update you all on the park and if/when the EU wiki happens.
 
Well that's kind of... odd. But those Essential Guides are still great. That old Essential Guide to Characters actually has characters from the Ewoks cartoon and Jedi Prince to fill out the pages.
Not really as Sad Panda have had crap ton of all sorts of SFW material made and scanned over the decades. With it being an archive site something like Star Wars wouldn't be out of place given SW been animefied since the Daicon 3 intro video.
 
Season 4 definitely happening at the very least. I can see that being the final one, especially given how Din's back in the Mando cult again and we're seemingly getting Grogu's backstory soon.

(Source: https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/the-mandalorian-season-4-written-ahsoka-1235531752/)
I could see Disney greenlighting more season just to pretend things are A-OK, for example Batwoman lasted for 5 seasons despite the fact that season 1 broke a Guiness record for low ratings, the show kept going and CW kept pretending it was a massive hit, and was only canceled after the fact that the CW hasn't been profitable since 2006 came to light, I can see Disney doing the same with The Mandalorian
 
Fair point. We are in a post-LOTR world, though. Post-Hobbit trilogy, specifically. I have to wonder if people weren't just wary of fantasy jaunts at the time.
GOT is fantasy and people went apeshit over it (mostly because OMG RAPE AND DRAGONS). but even with that in mind look and when people soured on it, it was when the writing took a nosedive. most other stuff like wheel of time was never good to begin with.

call me naive but good writing will always be able to stand on it's own. you might not make capeshit money, but people will appreciate it for longer - look at any classic that bombed initially but developed a cult following.

not saying the series would've been able to accomplish that, but at least would've been enjoyable instead of the crap we got.

another aspect I mentioned before (can't remember if it was here or another thread): fantasy is expensive. sci-fi too but you can get away with a log of shortcuts (like simple sets) and CGI, fantasy wants more elaborate environments and expensive landscape shots (which compared to just space in sci-fi you would immediately pick out as CGI).

Man it's really funny that Andor's enduring legacy is going to be the suits believing that watching humans do mundane shit is what people liked about it.
it's just the average exec stupidity:
"what, the thing we put in slightly more effort isn't as shit as all the rest?! should we put more effort in the stuff we do? nah, LET'S JUST MISS THE POINT AND DOUBLE DOWN HARD!"
 
Season 4 definitely happening at the very least. I can see that being the final one, especially given how Din's back in the Mando cult again and we're seemingly getting Grogu's backstory soon.

(Source: https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/the-mandalorian-season-4-written-ahsoka-1235531752/)
"Fits perfectly with other series"
Nigga they cannot get Bad Batch to fit perfectly with fucking Clone Wars or the Prequels. There is zero chance of cross-property consistency.

I could see Disney greenlighting more season just to pretend things are A-OK, for example Batwoman lasted for 5 seasons despite the fact that season 1 broke a Guiness record for low ratings, the show kept going and CW kept pretending it was a massive hit, and was only canceled after the fact that the CW hasn't been profitable since 2006 came to light, I can see Disney doing the same with The Mandalorian
You can hide a lot of losses by claiming that Batwoman is a "loss leader" for the show behind it, or brings people to the network by paying off friends in publications to write fawning articles and then referencing those articles to justify your decisions. This works until either reality dictates otherwise, or someone realizes that an injection of reality lets them take your job.


It's starting to look like Disney's preemptively getting ready to pull the plug and head into survival mode. This level of quality drop for your flagship shows is not the mark of a healthy company.
An output disruption can only mean one thing: Invasion.

More "Essential Legends" Printings are being rolled out, with new covers to boot. Here's a comparison to how they look compared to their original printings:


...I can't be the only one who sees these new covers as an objective fucking downgrade.

Especially for those last two; maybe instead shaving a few dollars and having some indie artist barf out peacock blue and hot pink all over a canvas, Del Rey/LFL should've just used the Japanese covers that have literally been out for decades:

Also, as many suspected, Del Rey has announced that they have zero plans to do anymore unabridged audiobooks for EU novels, now or in the future. So there's the one lone positive of this reprint effort, utterly gone.
The Japanese covers are superior.
 
Jesus. Fucking. Christ.

It happened again. LucasFilm's control freaks ran off ANOTHER writer. And not just for any movie, the next trilogy meant to continued the saga after Ep 9.

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If you're keeping track, Kevin Feige and Patty Jenkins' projects were outright cancelled last week. And now, in some sort of blindsided panic, LFL got into creative tensions with Damon Lindelof right as production was starting to gear up. This, again, comes ONE MONTH before Star Wars Celebration, where LFL plans to unveil their future film plans, which they have been giddily hyping up for months now.

What the fuck is even happening over there at Skywalker Ranch?
 
Jesus. Fucking. Christ.

It happened again. LucasFilm's control freaks ran off ANOTHER writer. And not just for any movie, the next trilogy meant to continued the saga after Ep 9.

If you're keeping track, Kevin Feige and Patty Jenkins' projects were outright cancelled last week. And now, in some sort of blindsided panic, LFL got into creative tensions with Damon Lindelof right as production was starting to gear up. This, again, comes ONE MONTH before Star Wars Celebration, where LFL plans to unveil their future film plans, which they have been giddily hyping up for months now.

What the fuck is even happening over there at Skywalker Ranch?
Begun the Tard Wars have.
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They're driving away every single one of their writers and directors and destroying any chance of producing a new movie.

This is such a delight to see after seeing so many shills back in 2014 defend DisLFL's new direction and mass retcon claiming that it would allow more creative freedom and better fates for the main characters by having a "blank slate" when in reality there's been even more creative restrictions than ever before and zero writing freedom, while character building and story have been replaced with mystery box-approved hollow narratives, bbq labels, empty references to things that never existed before and pretending they were always there (looking at you Inferno Squad and Exogol, just to name a few), or in more recent years like with the works of Furloni and the shitfest that's been the High Republic: more hollow references to the pre-Disney era with no context or understanding of said references and even more pandering to idpol in a desperate bid to attract the original fanbase that didn't convert to the disney way or were driven off after the disquels.

If things keep going down this direction, the next disequel trilogy (if such an abomination ever gets made) will have to be directed by Furloni. Imagine three films of wolf wank and watching the forced as fuck orange waifu and the green tard baby be declared the true heroes of the franchise who were working behind the scenes in every movie all along.
 
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it would allow more creative freedom and better fates for the main characters by having a "blank slate"
Apparently the only REAL "blank slate" is the Star Wars film slate, considering how often their schedule for more films opens up from all this cancelling of projects and starting over.

Who knew creating new stories for this franchise was such a Herculean and thorny task that a four years and a dozen cancelled projects later, no one can seem to launch the next string of films without writing themselves into a corner, getting fired, or walking off entirely.

Boy, I...I wonder... If only, there was a well of stories we could've drawn from to avoid this whole mess...? But, nah. Doesn't exist. Kathleen told me herself. And she's always right.
 
Jesus. Fucking. Christ.

It happened again. LucasFilm's control freaks ran off ANOTHER writer. And not just for any movie, the next trilogy meant to continued the saga after Ep 9.

If you're keeping track, Kevin Feige and Patty Jenkins' projects were outright cancelled last week. And now, in some sort of blindsided panic, LFL got into creative tensions with Damon Lindelof right as production was starting to gear up. This, again, comes ONE MONTH before Star Wars Celebration, where LFL plans to unveil their future film plans, which they have been giddily hyping up for months now.

What the fuck is even happening over there at Skywalker Ranch?
How the fuck did they manage to scare off Damon Lindelof and can more studios start doing whatever it was, please? His name shows up on the credits of pretty much every shitty big-budget movie and TV show for the last decade, he's like Hollywood cancer.
 
At this point I really hope there is some pre-Disney version of Wookiepedia achieved somewhere.
I remember some folks on 8/sw/ (or one of the bunkers) were working on a pre-Disney SW wiki but I don't know if they finished it.

What the fuck is even happening over there at Skywalker Ranch?
Bob Iger acting like a firefighter arsonist.
I know Doomcuck has claimed that Kennedy will leave during SW Celebration but I hope it actually happens.
 
Jesus. Fucking. Christ.

It happened again. LucasFilm's control freaks ran off ANOTHER writer. And not just for any movie, the next trilogy meant to continued the saga after Ep 9.

not surprised. i mean, how someone could possibly make a sequel to 7-9 without ignoring the whole story? this trilogy ruined any potential story going foward.

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really puts things in perspective
 
How the fuck did they manage to scare off Damon Lindelof and can more studios start doing whatever it was, please? His name shows up on the credits of pretty much every shitty big-budget movie and TV show for the last decade, he's like Hollywood cancer.
Whatever do you mean?

Prometheus and the Watchmen TV Series were flawless works of art. Truly testaments to Lindelof's creative subversion.
 
not surprised. i mean, how someone could possibly make a sequel to 7-9 without ignoring the whole story? this trilogy ruined any potential story going foward.
What would be needed first is instead of the next trilogy you need to do another miniseries or book series that covers the next 5-10 years in the Star Wars galaxy, focus on the rebuilding of things, how things get back to normal, no giant galaxy-ending threats. Hutts, space pirates, very small remnants of First Order, that kind of thing at most. Show the galaxy actually growing and healing. Show things actually getting back to when they were bright and happy in the Old Republic before the Empire or ostensibly the brief moment in time between the New Republic and First Order.

After that you can do a new trilogy where something big happens.
 
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I could see Disney greenlighting more season just to pretend things are A-OK, for example Batwoman lasted for 5 seasons despite the fact that season 1 broke a Guiness record for low ratings, the show kept going and CW kept pretending it was a massive hit, and was only canceled after the fact that the CW hasn't been profitable since 2006 came to light, I can see Disney doing the same with The Mandalorian
Favreau's either completely bullshitting here then or he knows something we don't know. Mando at least has the benefit of being able to be episodic when it doesn't feel like pursuing any kind of plot, so it's easier to make content for than most SW properties.

(Source: https://ew.com/tv/the-mandalorian-jon-favreau-how-many-seasons/)
 

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Jesus. Fucking. Christ.

It happened again. LucasFilm's control freaks ran off ANOTHER writer. And not just for any movie, the next trilogy meant to continued the saga after Ep 9.

If you're keeping track, Kevin Feige and Patty Jenkins' projects were outright cancelled last week. And now, in some sort of blindsided panic, LFL got into creative tensions with Damon Lindelof right as production was starting to gear up. This, again, comes ONE MONTH before Star Wars Celebration, where LFL plans to unveil their future film plans, which they have been giddily hyping up for months now.

What the fuck is even happening over there at Skywalker Ranch?

Let me translate this into Normie for everyone:
"We signed a bunch of contracts that said this project is happening, and if it doesn't we have to pay out big penalties + look like bitches. However, if we start changing the terms on people and pissing them off enough they voluntarily quit, we don't have to pay out the penalties and in the investor conference we can go 'Aw geez... all the creatives just backed out. How can we possibly continue at this time? We'll come back to this later'.

We are doing this because our profit margins are shitting the bed and we can't afford to gamble on another Solo."

If its the Promethus & HBO Watchmen guy, that makes a ton of sense. You never want to shit the bed, but you definitely don't want to shit the bed now - people are starting to ignore ESG scores and look at returns.
 
not surprised. i mean, how someone could possibly make a sequel to 7-9 without ignoring the whole story? this trilogy ruined any potential story going foward.

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"There's no source material," Kennedy said. "We don't have comic books. We don't have 800-page novels. We don't have anything other than passionate storytellers who get together and talk about what the next iteration might be.
 
How the fuck did they manage to scare off Damon Lindelof and can more studios start doing whatever it was, please? His name shows up on the credits of pretty much every shitty big-budget movie and TV show for the last decade, he's like Hollywood cancer.
His new show (I forget the name buts it's about a nun trying to fight an A.I.) is getting a lot of positive buzz. I'm skeptical,but his movie The Hunt was surprisingly watchable unlike most of his other work. He may have decided it's easier to run his own show rather than deal with the dysfunction at Lucasfilm.
 
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