Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

What is the source for the 100,000+ Russian dead, anyway? I mean, given what a meatgrinder this war has been it wouldn't surprise me, but is there an official basis for that number?

Because if they're coming up with it just by extrapolating...well, back in Vietnam, our experts were "extrapolating" that the Vietcong/NVA were taking a tremendous amount of casualties and their truck convoys along the Ho Chi Minh trail were being eradicated nightly by air attack simply based on the amount of ordnance expended.


Currently they're claiming 670K Russian dead and wounded, which is around double the entire Russian force currently deployed in Ukraine lol

Yes the Ukrainian defence ministry is claiming that they've destroyed three quarters of the entire Russian army. As not even the most retarded Ukrainian supporter in the west believes this the 100K estimate is just a number pulled out of their arses to sound big but plausible. I've seen western estimates of Russian dead range from 20K to 120K, in other words no one has any idea.

Russia currently enjoys a 10:1 artillery advantage over Ukraine. 80-90% of all reported casualties in this war have come from artillery, not small arms. Despite Reddit bro drooling over NATO wunderwaffe most of Ukraine's weaponry is old Soviet stuff and is significantly less accurate than Russian. It's reasonable to say that Ukrainian losses will be significantly higher than Russian. Clues may be found in Ukraine press ganging geezers, children and handicapped people into serving.
 
I've never quite understood why anyone—even a Fatmerican—would want to attach a scrotum to his truck.

In unison with all the peoples of the world, Luxembourg cries out for peace:

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General Mark Milley states that Zelensky's goals are impossible and will not be achieved:

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RIP to the French mercenary. Maybe he just got tricked into supporting the Nazis because he believed the Fake News. May God have mercy on his soul.
lol, that cuck is putting it lightly. "Extremely Difficult" = "Impossible". He can't out and out call Zelensky fucking retarded because the government is baking him, but this has got to be a clusterfuck.

Are people who are not professional mercs still going over there? What the fuck is wrong with these idiots? This is a war between two major fucking powers. You're not fighting ISIS here. You're dealing with modern military, combined arms warfare. Land, Air, Sea, Indirect Fire. Armor and Infantry.

The way people treat this like gearing up and thinking they're fighting for 'Freedom' are fucking idiots. They just get thrown right to the front lines as Zelinsky is desperately trying to hold Bakhmut even as its crumbling, throwing so much manpower and resources at it, its mind boggling.
Russia's not even on a war footing and if it decides to do so it would be an absolute disaster for the Ukraine, and by default, NATO.
yeah but that woulld be more production of t72 tham in soviet times.
we also had prior numbers of russia that said 20ish new and 80 restored ones.

The west could produce alot more tanks, if somebody gave longtime contracts. but right now Nato isnt even producing enough trucks while the biggest truck producer in the world is cutting hours...
The West can't produce fuck all. Ammo production in NATO and the US is far behind Russia and Ukraine is already running low. Even ramping up production now would mean that it wouldn't catch up until 2024-2025. And that's assuming Europe DOES ramp up. Europe has barely done shit militarily except for the French, and does not seem very eager to do so. They're all "GO GET EM" when the US is behind them, but when they have to step up, they're not so eager.

Germany having 52 billion to spend on its military and not spending a single cent, comes to mind. That and having to pay in advance for ammo orders. Meanwhile Russia can operate at this pace for a long time.

You have to also consider the operational doctrine of the United States. For the past, say 20 years, it has been interpreted that conflicts will be small-scale, with non-state actors and rogue states. Not nuclear powers. So military production was shifted to air power and small scale units, drones and the like. Not combined arms warfare. Everyone expected a conflict with a nuclear power to end with nukes.

But here we're seeing a major power ready for war with other major powers. We mocked Russia at the beginning because it took a lot of damage, but that was because the gloves hadn't come off. The things they're doing now is nothing to sneeze at. Ukraine is barely holding on and requires constant Western support. The country would be done without it. And even with support, it is straining global systems quite a bit.

The West was not ready for a war with another major power. Russia, seemingly, was. And now is, much more than before. While the West is struggling to adopt that position. And Russia isn't even in a war economy. That is extrodinarily bad.


Currently they're claiming 670K Russian dead and wounded, which is around double the entire Russian force currently deployed in Ukraine lol

Yes the Ukrainian defence ministry is claiming that they've destroyed three quarters of the entire Russian army. As not even the most retarded Ukrainian supporter in the west believes this the 100K estimate is just a number pulled out of their arses to sound big but plausible. I've seen western estimates of Russian dead range from 20K to 120K, in other words no one has any idea.

Russia currently enjoys a 10:1 artillery advantage over Ukraine. 80-90% of all reported casualties in this war have come from artillery, not small arms. Despite Reddit bro drooling over NATO wunderwaffe most of Ukraine's weaponry is old Soviet stuff and is significantly less accurate than Russian. It's reasonable to say that Ukrainian losses will be significantly higher than Russian. Clues may be found in Ukraine press ganging geezers, children and handicapped people into serving.
Mossad, I think, estimated 17-18k Russians and about 150k Ukies. But nobody really knows on either side, except it is really worse on the Ukranian side, with people getting pulled off the street to go to the grinder in Bakhmut.
 
yeah but that woulld be more production of t72 tham in soviet times.

By the mid 80's it was basic production number at UVZ without going into mobilization footing to boot. And had floor space to spare.


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From left to right

First row production numbers of T-72 for UVZ.

Second row production numbers of T-72 for Chelyabinsk(Which did much more then just tanks),

Third row number of T-72's that went into Soviet Armed forces as apposed to abroad.

The fourth row includes the T-64A (object 434) and T-64B (object 437/447) numbers. But not the T-64(object 432) and early T-64A production samples. Also all T-64's models where built by Kharkov and the numbers where limited by the engine production.

Fifth row is for T-80's which the bulk was built by Kirov. Which where also building fuckload of other things also.

Omsk however ended up building T-80U's also and was going to or had taken over production IIRC. And Kharkov started building T-80UD (Diesel engine powered instead of Gas/multi-fuel- turbine ) in parallel to T-80U since 1987
 
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A senior Australian neo-Nazi linked to an international terror group has gone to fight in Ukraine amid efforts by security services to stop domestic extremists gaining overseas military training.

Daniel Newman, a violent criminal with deep links to neo-Nazi leaders in NSW and Victoria and overseas terror outfit Combat 18, flew to Asia this month before then travelling to Ukraine, after telling associates he intended to take up arms with anti-Russian fighters.

 

It's happening guyz! Turns out the Hohols sacrificing 100K troops on the Donbas front was all a big gay op. It might seem the Vatniks have an overwhelmingly dominant position but that's only because you can't follow along with 8D underwater chess.

Anyway the spring offensive is just around the corner. Personally I can't fucking wait.

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LMFAO. The "Neo Nazis" are all glowie ops down here. Last story on them was a bunch of special individuals giving the Roman salute during a protest against child mutilation. How can we possibly be against cutting off little boy's dicks when literal Nazis are on the other side? They're not exactly subtle, but then again they don't have to be as most of my fellow Aussies are retards.

They actually think that real right wing nationalists are going to volunteer to fight for Ukraine? OK
 
They actually think that real right wing nationalists are going to volunteer to fight for Ukraine? OK
Yes, they actually do, because Daddy Adolf had a hate boner for Russia. so you should totally go to Ukraine and risk your life/die for a nation run by scheming jews, troons and literal whores, and did I mention its not your nation?

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What is the source for the 100,000+ Russian dead, anyway? I mean, given what a meatgrinder this war has been it wouldn't surprise me, but is there an official basis for that number?
I think it'll be awhile before we get genuine KIA numbers. Barring the obvious propaganda numbers both sides will throw out, you have to figure neither side probably has exact numbers yet. There's a significant amount of dead bodies laying out there rotting left behind who are still considered MIA, people who will never be identified because they're literally in pieces from artillery/mortars which are the biggest killer in any conventional war who are still considered MIA, and probably prisoners whose captivity wasn't reported to the opposing side who are still considered MIA.
 
Normie faggots in Germany believe Blinken's statement that border debates are on the table is a sign of the upcoming big Ukie offensive. I feel a bit sorry for any young lad suffering in this but fuck me these delusional people need a reality check and complete defeat of their bullshit belief system.
 
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