Argue about women or something

[The Ugly One]

I brought up an example of a crappy example to live in being forced to live at home - not "homemaking"-and not allowed to earn their own, and his reply was basically "how is it so bad?"

Nah way he was talking saying women shouldn't be roles they are in aka jobs

How else is someone supposed to earn money?

There are people out there who don't want women to earn money and cone up with bullshit excuses so they can play financial abuser. Now why shouldn't I think someone who talks like him isn't one of those?

I've never seen anyone as emotionally and financially abusive as a female breadwinner. A woman who has to take care of a family acts like she's some sort of victim herself, as though the primary purpose of a job is to buy baubles and toys for yourself, and your family is just some sort of parasite that came out of nowhere...not, you know, the whole point of why you work so hard.

But hey, men actually have the option of being the stay at home caretaker these days. So tells me why, oh why, if working is so so terrible why don't men try being a sahd?

Because SAHDs are ~3x more likely to be divorced by their spouse and thrown out on their own than SAHMs, because a female breadwinner is far more likely to resent having to share her income and view anyone who depends on her as a leech.

 

[Oilspill Battery]

This is true though

I don't understand what you're saying. 99% of men couldn't own property. It is not a woman only issue.

This - as a current issue- is mostly a third world country/ USA thing (give or take a few places) . Unions should be more of a thing in so much of the world.

In places that do have fair workers rights, work isn't a hell hole a lot of people online portray it as. Job satisfaction is a thing and not everybody has it bad, it's a positive experience instead. I wish it were a positive experience for everyone but life sucks and just like some people here need to see relationships have been bad experience for many folk and won't ever see it as a positive thing or go for it (no matter how much they text wall otherwise until they're blue in the face) and live with that I have to live with people crying about their job.

Nobody enjoys work, otherwise it wouldn't be work. You think people who win the lottery continue doing their 9 to 5? No, of course not, "Never having to work again" is the dream 99% of people have.

But hey, men actually have the option of being the stay at home caretaker these days. So tells me why, oh why, if working is so so terrible why don't men try being a sahd?

Because men are wired to want to provide and women are wired to want to caretake.

Giving women the ability to provide has made them more miserable, not happier.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/may/18/womens-rights-happiness-wellbeing-gender-gap

It also has depressed wages and destroyed unions making life shittier for everyone.

 

[Stan]

Women don’t need to thank men for ceasing to treat them like cows. I agree with post #2; am I acting “entitled” if I don’t thank my bully for not bullying me anymore? According to Aristotle women were like flowerpots, basically a reproductive asset and nothing more than that. Marriage in English law wasn’t a legal agreement between a man and a woman, it was a negotiated transfer of property between the father and the groom. Rape was considered a property crime against the father or wife of the raped woman; like stealing a car and then damaging it.

It’s saddening to see the number of men in this space who still think along those lines; that women aren’t people but objects, or that if women are people, they’re like children who need to have their rights limited “for their own good”. Do some of you assholes really believe that the only things women need to know how to do are dinner, dishes, and laundry? That womens labor should be domestic and unpaid? That *womens suffrage* was going to far. Psssh

Fact is: modernity has made women and men equal more than anything else. Literacy isn’t solely for men anymore, power tools can accomplish what only alpha male strength used to achieve, and killing someone is as easy as getting your hands on a gun. A man can be feeble or even crippled and still earn a decent living; so there’s no justification in male supremacy. He isn’t solely empowered to earn a living that a woman couldn’t. I suspect many of you who hate women’s liberty hate that women are no longer dependent on men for their financial security.

You can complain about it all you want but you can’t put the toothpaste back in the tube. Women aren’t going back and they’re not sorry.

 

[The Foxtrot]

Women aren’t going back and they’re not sorry.

What happened in Afghanistan when the Americans left?

 

[gang weeder]

Women don’t need to thank men for ceasing to treat them like cows. I agree with post #2; am I acting “entitled” if I don’t thank my bully for not bullying me anymore? According to Aristotle women were like flowerpots, basically a reproductive asset and nothing more than that. Marriage in English law wasn’t a legal agreement between a man and a woman, it was a negotiated transfer of property between the father and the groom. Rape was considered a property crime against the father or wife of the raped woman; like stealing a car and then damaging it.

It’s saddening to see the number of men in this space who still think along those lines; that women aren’t people but objects, or that if women are people, they’re like children who need to have their rights limited “for their own good”. Do some of you assholes really believe that the only things women need to know how to do are dinner, dishes, and laundry? That womens labor should be domestic and unpaid? That *womens suffrage* was going to far. Psssh

Fact is: modernity has made women and men equal more than anything else. Literacy isn’t solely for men anymore, power tools can accomplish what only alpha male strength used to achieve, and killing someone is as easy as getting your hands on a gun. A man can be feeble or even crippled and still earn a decent living; so there’s no justification in male supremacy. He isn’t solely empowered to earn a living that a woman couldn’t. I suspect many of you who hate women’s liberty hate that women are no longer dependent on men for their financial security.

You can complain about it all you want but you can’t put the toothpaste back in the tube. Women aren’t going back and they’re not sorry.

Evolutionary psychology didn't magically disappear in the past 100 years, it is still here, the difference today is that super-abundance has given many people the ability to act against it and cope about it without being constrained as muich by immediate, tangible consequences. But this "freedom" granted by extreme material wealth is akin to a guy who wins the lottery and suddenly has the ability to fund a massive crack addiction without any longer having to work. The fact that he can do it does not mean he should or that it's good for him longer term.

Most women are still happier attached to a responsible male than they are being alone. It's not a matter of "male supremacy," it's a matter of a stable male partner providing many long term benefits, in terms of finances, social status, emotional support, etc. Yes of course if the man is abusive rather than responsible this arrangement falls apart. This is true for any situation or arrangement in life, if your boss is a bad person your job will suck, if your government is full of bad people your country will suck, etc. Telling women to avoid men completely because some of them are bad people is like telling someone to never even try to get a job because some employers are bad people.

Assuming that men are always abusive and obsessing over the potential for abuse shows pathological misandry and irrational hatred, in the same way that race hustler types only ever paint whitey as some kind of evil demon that only exists for the purpose of hurting black people. And ultimately it hurts women because this mindset will cause them to lock themselves out of what is very likely their best path to life satisfaction (a healthy marriage). MGTOW is the same thing for men albeit to a lesser degree as men are less vulnerable to loneliness/social isolation than women (not that it's good for them either, it's just that it's more devastating for women).

 

[malleusmaleficarum]

look man i dont know about any of that shit but i will say that i think women are cool and i like to put my penis in side of them.

 

[Fount of BadSpeak]

Women don’t need to thank men for ceasing to treat them like cows. I agree with post #2; am I acting “entitled” if I don’t thank my bully for not bullying me anymore? According to Aristotle women were like flowerpots, basically a reproductive asset and nothing more than that. Marriage in English law wasn’t a legal agreement between a man and a woman, it was a negotiated transfer of property between the father and the groom. Rape was considered a property crime against the father or wife of the raped woman; like stealing a car and then damaging it.

It’s saddening to see the number of men in this space who still think along those lines; that women aren’t people but objects, or that if women are people, they’re like children who need to have their rights limited “for their own good”. Do some of you assholes really believe that the only things women need to know how to do are dinner, dishes, and laundry? That womens labor should be domestic and unpaid? That *womens suffrage* was going to far. Psssh

Fact is: modernity has made women and men equal more than anything else. Literacy isn’t solely for men anymore, power tools can accomplish what only alpha male strength used to achieve, and killing someone is as easy as getting your hands on a gun. A man can be feeble or even crippled and still earn a decent living; so there’s no justification in male supremacy. He isn’t solely empowered to earn a living that a woman couldn’t. I suspect many of you who hate women’s liberty hate that women are no longer dependent on men for their financial security.

You can complain about it all you want but you can’t put the toothpaste back in the tube. Women aren’t going back and they’re not sorry.

I'll tell you what, I'll pretend you are all "equal" once you're cut off from all welfare, grants, child support, alimony, and divorce settlements, as well as unequal protection under the law. Funnily enough, none of my, uh, "equals" ever want to actually demonstrate their equality and always demand to be treated like the overgrown, perpetual children you always have been and always will be.

 

[redcent]

Imagine trying to tell people how positive it is to be a wage cuck while also saying relationships are terrible and shouldn't be pursued.

For some people yes, relationships are terrible.

I get usa is a shit hole but you complaining about your mcdonald's shift work isn't going to magically make said people want a relationship. Or do you want to argue that no bad relationship in the history of mankind never happened, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary?

I've never seen a man complain about being a stay at home dad and good luck finding any. If a man could legitimately get into a situation where the woman makes all the money and still provides him plenty of sex and respects him and etc. you won't find him complaining about it. There is no movement of men complaining about how terrible that situation is, it doesn't exist.

Oh really that's nice. I kind of figured it would be responded with some guy complaining "teh evil women in control" and tell them the feelings mutual, for me anyone in control of me

That said though, you got a complainer just below:

I've never seen anyone as emotionally and financially abusive as a female breadwinner. A woman who has to take care of a family acts like she's some sort of victim herself, as though the primary purpose of a job is to buy baubles and toys for yourself, and your family is just some sort of parasite that came out of nowhere...not, you know, the whole point of why you work so hard.

So, you think men don't pull this?

Because guys do, it it makes people feel negative about your group as badly as you view women in control.

Or what, you want to deny it happens?

I guess your going to scramble to google to look at stats. Just stop and answer, does it happen with guys or not?

I don't understand what you're saying. 99% of men couldn't own property. It is not a woman only issue.

I agreed with you idiot

Nobody enjoys work, otherwise it wouldn't be work. You think people who win the lottery continue doing their 9 to 5? No, of course not, "Never having to work again" is the dream 99% of people have.

Some people say that they would continue work just to keep them occupied or just to avoid the tax office taking away any other means of support they would otherwise be dependent on, if they won the lotto

It also disregards all the rich bastards and millionaires who keep on doing their jobs

Or, what, you going to argue away the existence of job satisfaction? You think nobody in the history of earth enjoyed his or her job?

Because men are wired to want to provide and women are wired to want to caretake.

Giving women the ability to provide has made them more miserable, not happier.

You give me a googled article I give one back

Your text walling is just talking bullshit hoping to turn someone desperate for a relationship. And I keep telling you, years with psychological professionals can't even change that, what makes you think you can?

 

[gang weeder]

I get usa is a shit hole but you complaining about your mcdonald's shift work isn't going to magically make said people want a relationship. Or do you want to argue that no bad relationship in the history of mankind never happened, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary?

It's just such a weird comparison to keep making. I feel like you are making it because you need to believe people are going to have some other purpose in life besides marriage + reproduction and "muh career" is the puzzle piece that you're trying to shove into that empty hole. Sorry, but it doesn't fit. Only the top 10% of society, if even that much, is ever going to have any sort of "career" that means two shits to them besides just being a necessary evil, a means to the end of paying bills. Someone has to work at McDonald's and they're not gonna look back fondly on how great it was to be a McDonald's wage cuck when they're in the old folks home, no matter how much welfare and unions and whatever else they have. Those things will just make their shitty job more tolerable, but it'll never be something that gives them positive satisfaction in life.

It also disregards all the rich bastards and millionaires who keep on doing their jobs

Because they are very top end elites who actually have super high status jobs. By definition only a tiny percentage of the population can ever be in that position, and even among that tiny percent the majority are not going to be women as women are much more allergic to working 80 hour weeks than men.

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

Because they are very top end elites who actually have super high status jobs. By definition only a tiny percentage of the population can ever be in that position, and even among that tiny percent the majority are not going to be women as women are much more allergic to working 80 hour weeks than men.

Aspiring girlbosses have no fucking clue what it takes. Once you move beyond middle management, your job is your life. You don’t spend your Friday afternoons shopping for Louboutins, your ass is spending the weekend working. I’ve had the “pleasure” of working with women who aspire to go beyond middle management and the first long weekend they work on a proposal or the first time they get chewed out by a c-suite executive for fucking something up, they immediately look for the exit. If they can’t pat themselves on the back for having a vagina and spend hours chatting on LinkedIn about how much they like being a girlboss, then it’s an oppressive environment and they’re already willing to throw in the towel.

Honestly the grind is terrible for all but men don’t have any illusions about what it takes, women are the ones who’ve had so much smoke blown up their asses all their lives that they believe being an executive is what they saw on Sex and the City. There are some delusional men who thinks it’s easy and when they inevitably fail we just laugh at them. When women get delusional and fail, we have to pretend this is a serious social issue and society will have to adjust yet again so hurt feelings are minimized.

 

[gang weeder]

Aspiring girlbosses have no fucking clue what it takes. Once you move beyond middle management, your job is your life. You don’t spend your Friday afternoons shopping for Louboutins, your ass is spending the weekend working. I’ve had the “pleasure” of working with women who aspire to go beyond middle management and the first long weekend they work on a proposal or the first time they get chewed out by a c-suite executive for fucking something up, they immediately look for the exit. If they can’t pat themselves on the back for having a vagina and spend hours chatting on LinkedIn about how much they like being a girlboss, then it’s an oppressive environment and they’re already willing to throw in the towel.

I have worked with a person who fit the "girlboss" stereotype quite well. Single, no kids, always worked late and on weekends, seemed to have no life outside of the job, and literally lived alone with a couple of cats. She had a reasonably high ranking position and made a lot of money. She was also a basket case of anxiety and very unpleasant to be around.

Honestly the grind is terrible for all but men don’t have any illusions about what it takes, women are the ones who’ve had so much smoke blown up their asses all their lives that they believe being an executive is what they saw on Sex and the City. There are some delusional men who thinks it’s easy and when they inevitably fail we just laugh at them. When women get delusional and fail, we have to pretend this is a serious social issue and society will have to adjust yet again so hurt feelings are minimized.

There is a sub set of men who can thrive working long hours and throwing themselves into their job. But even among men it's a minority. Among women, it practically doesn't exist. Your comment brings to mind a post that I think effectively articulates what you are referencing by "when women fail, we have to pretend this is a serious social issue:"

Women's Tears Win in the Marketplace of Ideas

How belief in the blank slate plus residual gender double standards create "cancel culture," and the difficulties of fighting back

richardhanania.substack.com

In order to satisfy feminism, incompetent women must be patted on the back and told that they are important, even if they are actually doing nothing useful or in many cases are actively counter-productive. Telling them that they just aren't worth very much, or that their job simply isn't productive, is no longer an option.

 

[redcent]

It's just such a weird comparison to keep making. I feel like you are making it because you need to believe people are going to have some other purpose in life besides marriage + reproduction and "muh career" is the puzzle piece that you're trying to shove into that empty hole. Sorry, but it doesn't fit.

I was comparing it to being forced into relationship... Honestly why do many people have this poor reading comprehension, look, look at the quote again...

Society is fine as it is at the moment, sans the odd creep who thinks women shouldn't work and be stuck in the house.

I. E. A toxic relationship where someone is trapped in a home with no other option

Honestly, the amount of nongs who get their pants in a knot about "waah feminism" I'm not talking about comparing it to some perfect romance that happens. I'm talking about a shitty trap of a relationship. You think your "wage cuck" situation is so bad, try being trapped by a controlling man, not allowed to contact your friends or family, no weekends, no going to the pub after hours, no driving out to go fishing. No right to quit, no right to say "I'm feeling sick today day off nao" Just a man controlling your life, no freedom. Just 24/7 control, everyday, for the rest if your life

And the frustrating thing is the attitude people have here. Like, if a dude touched a hot plate, he'd go "ow" , feel pain, jerk his hand back and realise "gee, hot plates are dangerous, I'm not touching it again" but if another dude came along and ranted "bah, that little pain you felt was nothing. Vietnam vets get their arms blown off and commies worked to death in gulags" like, yeah, no shit Sherlock, still not going to touch that hot plate again. Pain is pain. All your doing is being like the second guy ranting till your face is blue making the first guy think "why does this weird want me to get hurt again so bad?" and he'll double down and definitely avoid hot plates like the plague. Unless you got a magic wand to turn touching every hot plate in existence into some amazingly pleasant high for the rest of eternity, it ain't happening

Only the top 10% of society, if even that much, is ever going to have any sort of "career" that means two shits to them besides just being a necessary evil, a means to the end of paying bills. Someone has to work at McDonald's and they're not gonna look back fondly on how great it was to be a McDonald's wage cuck when they're in the old folks home, no matter how much welfare and unions and whatever else they have. Those things will just make their shitty job more tolerable, but it'll never be something that gives them positive satisfaction in life.

Unions or not, people move on from their maccas job and move up. Or are you discussing people stuck forever in low wage? Yeah, I feel sorry for them.

Because they are very top end elites who actually have super high status jobs. By definition only a tiny percentage of the population can ever be in that position, and even among that tiny percent the majority are not going to be women as women are much more allergic to working 80 hour weeks than men.

Most men who work 80 hours a week - which isn't the norm- do so to support their litter of children (and I mean litter) or buy their missus a new SUV because she just has to be a sahm (whether it's her choice which happens or the husband's choice is another discussion, as is "gold digging" ) or they're paying off some gambling addiction, or they're a top manager who's dedicated to looking after his buisness. If you're single and working that much you should be taking in the dough, and maybe not be the top elite but enough to live a satisfied happy life. If not, I don't know what to say, other than where you live must be pretty shit and I feel sorry for you

be women as women are much more allergic to working 80 hour weeks than men.

you should see what nurses go through

 

[gang weeder]

I. E. A toxic relationship where someone is trapped in a home with no other option

Honestly, the amount of nongs who get their pants in a knot about "waah feminism" I'm not talking about comparing it to some perfect romance that happens. I'm talking about a shitty trap of a relationship. You think your "wage cuck" situation is so bad, try being trapped by a controlling man, not allowed to contact your friends or family, no weekends, no going to the pub after hours, no driving out to go fishing. No right to quit, no right to say "I'm feeling sick today day off nao" Just a man controlling your life, no freedom. Just 24/7 control, everyday, for the rest if your life

You are so fixated on this idea of being trapped in an abusive relationship. No one in this thread is endorsing that. We are not talking about your individual, specific, unique situation. We are talking about human beings in general, not you personally. Go be single and die alone if you want, no one cares and no one is going to stop you. If anything be grateful to live in a time when society bends over backwards to ensure you have that option.

The wage cuck comparison is a terrible one as I assure you many more people feel trapped, and perhaps are trapped in some sense, in their jobs compared to their relationships. You're not going to lose your income for breaking up with someone and if you're a woman initiating a divorce you might end up richer for it.

Unions or not, people move on from their maccas job and move up. Or are you discussing people stuck forever in low wage? Yeah, I feel sorry for them.

The vast majority of people will never be in that top 10% or even close to it. You do realize how statistics work, right? That if only 10% of people get to have high-flying careers placing them at the top of status hierarchies, that means the other 90% don't get to have that? The average person simply graduates from one form of drudgery to another--if they're smart and responsible, and maybe a bit lucky, they get to move on to a form of drudgery that is more comfortable and well-paid. But drudgery it remains.

 

[redcent]

You are so fixated on this idea of being trapped in an abusive relationship. No one in this thread is endorsing that. We are not talking about your individual, specific, unique situation. We are talking about human beings in general, not you personally. Go be single and die alone if you want, no one cares and no one is going to stop you. If anything be grateful to live in a time when society bends over backwards to ensure you have that option.

Well what are you here for to argue about? How bad your "wage cuck" situation is? Why are you fixated on that ? If it's so bad go do some protest and improve your work rights or some shit. What are you here for, just to whine about how bad you have it? Like some tranny pulls some victim thing to silence others? Yes? No? If no i'm not stopping you from trying to improve your situation. I do not live where you are let alone as some manager and taking it out here is just impotent whining. As for me Afaik you though could be some dick head guy with every intention of abusing someone in whatever way. If you are, neck yourself. If not, go fix your shit and live your own life

The wage cuck comparison is a terrible one as I assure you many more people feel trapped, and perhaps are trapped in some sense, in their jobs compared to their relationships. You're not going to lose your income for breaking up with someone and if you're a woman initiating a divorce you might end up richer for it.

You will lose your income if you're financially dependant on the guy.

Why don't you go look up some instances of what abuse, financial abuse, control, or whatever does to a person. (either gender, mind you)

Or... If you will, if you want some incentive on going out to protest your work rights, try looking up how good other people have it in other places.

The vast majority of people will never be in that top 10% or even close to it. You do realize how statistics work, right? That if only 10% of people get to have high-flying careers placing them at the top of status hierarchies, that means the other 90% don't get to have that? The average person simply graduates from one form of drudgery to another--if they're smart and responsible, and maybe a bit lucky, they get to move on to a form of drudgery that is more comfortable and well-paid. But drudgery it remains.

Yes yes yes,. Your country sucks. Water is wet. Go turn the computer off, go protest about your rights (or if you live in china or something get the hell out) and get on with it

 

[gang weeder]

Well what are you here for to argue about? How bad your "wage cuck" situation is? Why are you fixated on that ?

You brought up the job angle lol. You made that comparison, that's why anyone is discussing it.

You will lose your income if you're financially dependant on the guy.

Not in the English speaking world. Maybe if you weren't married to him, but if that's the case, whose choice was it to become financially dependent on a man without marrying him, and why then do you think you would still be entitled to his money after leaving him? If you live in the English speaking world and you believe that you're a "victim" of anything but your own choices in such a situation, you're really playing into the stereotypes about female entitlement. Oh, and sometimes you can STILL get alimony even if you weren't married to your former partner.

Yes yes yes,. Your country sucks. Water is wet. Go turn the computer off, go protest about your rights (or if you live in china or something get the hell out) and get on with it

What I said applies to every country. There is no country on Earth where people magically enjoy their jobs and wouldn't prefer to be free of them if money weren't an issue. There are only places which hand out more gibs so as to enable people to work less, which itself proves my point that work is not a source of meaning or purpose for the average person (or else they wouldn't be interested in getting lots of welfare so that they don't have to work).

 

[Oilspill Battery]

Some people say that they would continue work just to keep them occupied or just to avoid the tax office taking away any other means of support they would otherwise be dependent on, if they won the lotto

It also disregards all the rich bastards and millionaires who keep on doing their jobs

Or, what, you going to argue away the existence of job satisfaction? You think nobody in the history of earth enjoyed his or her job?

No rich bastards and millionares are working a 9 to 5.

You give me a googled article I give one back

Your text walling is just talking bullshit hoping to turn someone desperate for a relationship. And I keep telling you, years with psychological professionals can't even change that, what makes you think you can?

My study measures female happiness across 50+ years. Yours is just a survey of a single adults who say they aren't intrested in a relationship. Even ignoring the fact that those two things aren't even related, claiming that single people are happier is pure cope lmoa

 

[redcent]

You brought up the job angle lol. You made that comparison, that's why anyone is discussing it.

I brought up being forced to stay at home with no right to earn your own living aka financial freedom. All of a sudden you crazies twist it all into "wah wage cucking bad" like I don't get how you can make that leap in logic. I think looking up tumblrites online all the time has messed with your head

Not in the English speaking world

What, you think abuse doesn't happen in the western world? It's not non existant. Don't pull some "it never happens" like trannies do go out into the real world meet some women who actually have it bad rather than your maccas shift work, see why the charities for them are there for a reason. Are you going to argue domestic abuse isn't real wtf are you nuts

. Maybe if you weren't married to him, but if that's the case, whose choice was it to become financially dependent on a man without marrying him, and why then do you think you would still be entitled to his money after leaving him?

Heh, wasn't even me, lol. Someone I know, but that's all I'm giving out seeing as this is kiwifarms

If you live in the English speaking world and you believe that you're a "victim" of anything but your own choices in such a situation, you're really playing into the stereotypes about female entitlement. Oh, and sometimes you can STILL get alimony even if you weren't married to your former partner.

Presumptuous much. You jump to conclusions because you know nothing about what other people go through. Your complaining about "wage slaving" this much makes me start thinking less that you're a genuine sufferer of unfair work and more that you're some shut in neet arguing bullshit to cope with the fact he's a lazy shit who even if all the work was sunshine and roses he'd still be in his basement, leeching off of mum

What I said applies to every country. There is no country on Earth where people magically enjoy their jobs and wouldn't prefer to be free of them if money weren't an issue. There are only places which hand out more gibs so as to enable people to work less, which itself proves my point that work is not a source of meaning or purpose for the average person (or else they wouldn't be interested in getting lots of welfare so that they don't have to work).

You honestly think job satisfaction doesn't exist. You honestly think people don't feel a responsibility to contribute like farm to put food on your plate or work in energy to keep your shit running or help heal your broken bones should you get injured. Why don't you go tell those people that work is such an utter drudgery and they should stop now, see how your life ends up

And stay out if the way of people enjoying their work. You try to make it sound like hell but I find your nonsense to be so much more if a chore. Give me my structure that I'm used to any day

No rich bastards and millionares are working a 9 to 5.

What do you think gina rinehart is doing?

What do you think all those music artists and actors and ceos are doing?

My study measures female happiness across 50+ years. Yours is just a survey of a single adults who say they aren't intrested in a relationship. Even ignoring the fact that those two things aren't even related, claiming that single people are happier is pure cope lmoa

I think your argument that work is sooo sooo hard is cope on your end and you're living in denial how much people are enjoying their wages and their financial freedom, which I'm going to go out on a limb and figure you don't have and are being all sour grapes about it

 

[Oilspill Battery]

What do you think all those music artists and actors and ceos are doing?

Lmao yeah, because making music and acting is the same thing as being a waiter or working in a construction site.

This is why feminists are mocked all the time. They see men working and claim they want the right to work too, but when they say work they don't mean sewer cleaning, street sweeping or garbage disposal, they mean all the cushy "fancy" prestigious jobs.

I think your argument that work is sooo sooo hard is cope on your end and you're living in denial how much people are enjoying their wages and their financial freedom, which I'm going to go out on a limb and figure you don't have and are being all sour grapes about it

Yeah, I'm sure all those street sweepers and rat exterminators are living the dream.

 

[God of Nothing]

I do legitimately feel like the MGTOW version of women became a reality over covid or at least closer to it. The neuroticism and self involvement has just been turned up to 11.

That's when women joined the manosphere, ironically.

Women's rights aren't something that any society takes seriously because women themselves are unwilling to fight and die for their own rights.

This is the cold, honest truth. You see it time and time again. There were very few actual women in Ukraine wanting to stay behind to fight for their country. When women have issues, they still go to men to solve them. What happens when women are battered or raped by the men in women's clothes they let into their spaces?
why did men let this happen???

You cannot be an equal if you constantly defer responsibility, claim victimhood, and expect to be treated better than everyone else. That isn't equality at all. If a man gets raped, it's funny. When a women is, it's not. Does anyone honestly want the reverse to be the truth, since we will never get a majority among both sexes to think otherwise? I sure as hell know women don't. Most men don't either. But women will insist we are equal. They will work mostly comfortable jobs, take advantage of society's preferential treatment of them, and rely on men for many things to still say they are equal. In spite of everything to the contrary, most women insist they are men's equals. I once read a post on the internet about modern relationship issues that summarized this dysfunction succinctly.

Her: I can't decide which of these 35 different kinds of bread I want!
Him: I am starving.
Her: We're the same.

Feel free to give me the separate roles but still equal cope. The relationship has to be led by someone, and I don't know a single woman who is ever satisfied by it or has it last. Constantly trying to have it both ways has led to society to this point. Young men are checking out, families are going extinct, degeneracy is on the rise, and no one is happy. Was it worth having the freedom to be a wageslave?

 

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Lmao yeah, because making music and acting is the same thing as being a waiter or working in a construction site.

Which is shit in the US because your work rights are crap and nobody there does anything but cry victim

This is why feminists are mocked all the time. They see men working and claim they want the right to work too, but when they say work they don't mean sewer cleaning, street sweeping or garbage disposal, they mean all the cushy "fancy" prestigious jobs.

People who argue this are always oblivious to the women working out in factories or as cleaners or garbage workers or whatever menial job and don't show any experience of the real work beyond ar best their own cushy jobs and the meager internet travels they do. Like, how sheltered are you to say women aren't doing menial labour? They've been doing that since at least the war ffs. You say feminism is a joke well take a look at what you say

Yeah, I'm sure all those street sweepers and rat exterminators are living the dream.

The street sweeper I know has like four Mercedes.

Your country is shit and you're fucking morons with no backbone to stand up for your work rights you'd rather argue with a chick online *thinking* it's easier but in reality you're just chickenshits crying victim in your air conditioned basement like the worst of tumblrites while people living homeless or running from a shit home are the actually having it shit loads worse than you. This is all you can do because heaven help you if you stood up to your alleged monster bosses who afaik are just normie folk dealing with hopeless bludgers