I get you need to defend your side and I obviously agree shellings kids is always shit and invading is rarely justified but the Vatnigger thread will give plenty of reasons they believe it was justified and one of those reasons is they believe Ukraine was shelling kids in the Donbass for 6,000,000 years before this
Would these owners happen to also own China and Russia, seeing as how it was China that gave the world the abomination of the social credit score system? Everything you described as the future of America is the already existing reality of China. They've even updated their tyrannical financial system to include CBDCs with neat little expiration dates on their money.
yes, a country that doesn't even want me in it. whereas the US wants to solidify its power over every other country, and already has over the entirety of White countries I want to live in. I have no where to go to escape the US.
Globalism is a bit freaky to me but then I think about what it actually is and realize that no matter what happens, All NATO countries could get sucked into a black hole and no matter what, the concept of globalism will happen eventually. Blaming a country or gang of countries for this concept is weird since to me it is just what will naturally occur if given enough time. Like if the "West" all died tomorrow then a country like China would just become the globalist leader, If China died the day after then maybe Russia would be the leader ect... Like what are you arguing about? This all became inevitable when the first Europeans found the new world and is now even more viable with air travel.
They didn't think about how and to whom they will sell their resources when they started current war. Why we should suppouse that they will not do this again?
You know that communism in soviet edition and 'traditionalism' currentday ruzzia is all about destroying every fuckin bit of culture and tradition? They only use some husks of tradition in certian fields.
No one ever promised that to ruzzia (it was a small promise about East Germany not being a place for nuke force... when USSR was still alive), but as I see you are too agitated around Da Nuke to dispute about this.
Before split it was a 'neutral' thread (or two), it worked just fine.
Only a bit? Fuck, I'm getting too old to be a sperg.
I support Ukranian independence in theory, but it'd be really nice if they got rid of their own Nazi Satanists. However, Russians might be Nazi Satanists, too, in which case Ukraine should still be free since the average citizen is not a Nazi Satanist and it's probably better to be run by your own Nazi Satanists than foreign Nazi Satanists.
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This is just American Exceptionalism, but inverted. No, the US hasn't solidified its power over all white countries. It looks like that to you, because you consume American media, which is as parochial as any other national media and automatically assumes everything is about the USA. The media tells you that the US-run global domination is here to stay. It tells you that the nonces are free to run roughshod over everyone else in the world. It tells you that nobody has any choice, because the US is all-powerful and there's no way to stop it.
Because then folks will cotton on to the fact this is just a rehash of the exact same conspiracy theory thats been heard a thousand times before which has been mere moments away from total victory over humanity for several centuries now
Which is pretty much ok compared to what passes for competition, and compared to what came before in terms of superpowers/superpower candidates
So to put it simply, the supreme *evil* you have waxed lyrical about as the worst in human history is infact....power and influence. Both real and hypothetical.
Assuming NATO/The West is entirely run by satanic ultra-evil talmudic rape monsters who seek nothing but to eternally torture each and every human on the planet for shits and giggles is not exactly better than believing the opposite extreme that those running NATO/The West are all idealistic freedom loving humanitarians who seek to bring the world into a new golden age
If power is evil, why does anything good ever happen? Good people and bad people both have power. The bad people might have more for the time being.
You are a fucking retard.
Completely wrong. The US has so thoroughly raped the rest of the white world that there is no freedom outside the US itself, except in those countries with governments so weak they cannot yet rape their own citizens. Countries like Ukraine are subject to CIA color revolution and are thrown into war, and Serbia has already been bombed and I am sure will be bombed again if they do not fold into the EU. When they do fold into the EU, they will brain rape their citizens for money just like Germany and France and the UK.
It's a bit more then that backstory is that when the soviet union collapsed everyone wan kinda fine with being at their own barricades sides and so on trying to rebuild and when Bush sr. met with Yelcin in I think 90 or 91 there was a discussion about NATO exspancion but nothing was signed on it. And NATO was fine without expanding and then 92 transistria conflict happend and when the rest of eastern euro block (primarily Poland, Hungary and Czechoslovakia) had their oh shit moment russia has not changed one bit.
Dude no offense but that retarded take my dude like cmon if NATO wanted to bomb Serbia or did some other shit it whould not let Serbs to build up their military agian, let alone have their own elections or have anti EU/NATO stance like cmon stop taking the blackpill on that everything is evil and shit
You're conflating cultural influence (which I have complained about endlessly) with control. To a lot of the world, the US represents freedom. They emulate what they aspire towards, so they consume American culture. The influence is there, but that isn't control.
The poisoning being... what? That people look in from the outside and see that America seems better than where they're looking from? You're so convinced that the US is the great shaitan that you've blinded yourself to just how fucking awful most of the places you've fled to have been within just the last 30 years. How awful they are now. Much of the rot you're ascribing to American influence and control was already there, already embedded by decades of graft and oppression. You see that they're kind of crap now, that they consume American media and think it's pretty good, and decide that means the crap must be the result of American interventions, not seeming to understand that what you see now is an improvement over what was there before - an improvement that was brought about by the people in those countries themselves, who aspired toward the freedom they glimpsed from the west. Maybe it didn't live up to the idealisations, but it was a damn sight better than what they had.
Given the steady commitment of the Western Alliance to help support Ukraine with old systems and thereby neutralise a near century old threat (and longer for immediate neighbors), Putin using nukes of any sort would assuredly guarantee his Assured Destruction.
Globalism is nothing more than the latest name for global hegemony. Back during the Victorian Era it went by the name of Empire and the people in charge boasted the sun would never set on theirs. What's bizarre is that the USA has wound up in charge not by intent but default following WW2. The UK's hold on the world was broken along with its empire, as too any other nation in Europe that would try and build one... except of course the Russian juggernaut everyone had been dreading in 1914 had taken form with Stalin the new Czar, and with them refusing to leave Eastern Europe, supporting China and North Korea, and engaging in the rest of the overseas shenanigans empires do, we were stuck opposing them just because... well... what else were we going to do when they started pushing us around? Cry like babies and hide under our covers?
Which is not at all how empires have ever worked throughout history. They've always shamelessly reserved the ultima ratio regnum when interacting with others, and the USA has little desire for that, probably because we've never had a king and the whole idea disgusts us on what is probably a genetic level by now considering everyone here is because they were tired of that sort of thing. One of the biggest (relative) waves of immigration the USA had was in the 1850's following the collapse of the 1848 revolutions where we took in pretty much every German-speaking rabble-rouser in Europe.
The irony is that the moral decay Null bitches about is the end result of the sheer material plenty and quality of life the USA has, which is something no other nation on Earth has ever close come to accomplishing. Our food-related problems come not from being starving to death, but because everyone is fat from overeating. Our poor are obese. Obese! I'm sure Haitians who live on mud cookies because there's less food there than even in Africa hate and despise the USA for being evil.... oh wait, we've got a bunch of them trying to cross the border because they hate starving to death from their own poor life choices back home.
