Inactive Audrey E. Hale / Aiden E. Hale - Troon Terrorist

[Rapunzel]

It doesn't make it right, it's just something to consider especially when considering the unknown effects (or purposefully buried ones) of flooding the female body with hormones its not supposed to have in the amounts the sexual reassignment scam requires. I don't think this is the last we'll see a troon committing a crime like this. I think the effects will be far worse for those groomed into it as children.

Still no indication of added testosterone, however, with her being in therapy and a history of depression with suicidal ideation the possibility of side effects of anti depressants etc comes up which are of course things such as worsening of depression and anxiety, increased aggression, increased thoughts of suicide etc etc etc in the initial weeks.

Not trying to excuse her at all, but being a user of Topiramate for migraines (which can be used off label for PTSD etc, same as Lamotrigine for mood disorders, bipolar), topiramate I end up having to shut myself in the first two weeks of taking it because I turn into a fucking suicidal, crazy cunt and just ride it out. I've heard of others experiences on topiramate and they've ended up coming off it (they were on it for PTSD) because of severe violent reactions, one guy almost ran down an old lady just because she was there.

So, it could well be, that she had a crazy reaction to psychiatric meds.

But that's just a theory and really, someone would have noticed behaviour changes if she reacted so badly she was about to shoot up a school.

 

[FarmVille]

There is zero evidence this troon was taking hormones and I am unconvinced that a terminally online columbine cross player would need to flood their bodies with T to commit a school shooting

 

[Safir]

I wouldn’t be surprised if the sexual scandal involving this church/school was part of her wanting to attack it.

The cops said she first wanted to attack a different Christian school but it had higher security.

 

[Toolbox]

There is zero evidence this troon was taking hormones and I am unconvinced that a terminally online columbine cross player would need to flood their bodies with T to commit a school shooting

I don't disagree, the effects of the cult alone on people like this are pretty bad. But where exactly would she have been saying she was taking hormones? Have police already posted all physical evidence showing there were no such 'meds'?

 

[Vampirdžija]

The cops said she first wanted to attack a different Christian school but it had higher security.

This confuses me how it relates to her last messages
(not reposting screenshots because they were probably posted)
Maybe some kind of anti-religious rampage

 

[Procrastinhater]

And almost guaranteed to be female.

Tarrant had shit written all over his, and all over the magazines.
Not stickers though, he used white paint I think.

 

[EpicGamerMoment]

Tarrant had shit written all over his, and all over the magazines.
Not stickers though, he used white paint I think.

The Buffalo shooter too

Also if you watch the bodycam footage of this bitch getting shot you can almost hear the “-ACK”

 

[Load Bearing Drywall]

Still no indication of added testosterone, however, with her being in therapy and a history of depression with suicidal ideation the possibility of side effects of anti depressants etc comes up which are of course things such as worsening of depression and anxiety, increased aggression, increased thoughts of suicide etc etc etc in the initial weeks.

Not trying to excuse her at all, but being a user of Topiramate for migraines (which can be used off label for PTSD etc, same as Lamotrigine for mood disorders, bipolar), topiramate I end up having to shut myself in the first two weeks of taking it because I turn into a fucking suicidal, crazy cunt and just ride it out. I've heard of others experiences on topiramate and they've ended up coming off it (they were on it for PTSD) because of severe violent reactions, one guy almost ran down an old lady just because she was there.

So, it could well be, that she had a crazy reaction to psychiatric meds.

This is what happened to Kip Kinkel, he was on SSRIs for depression (he didn't tell anyone about the voices he was hearing), his parents had him go off cold turkey, and the combo of antidepressant withdrawal and schizophrenia pushed him over the edge.

 

[Toolbox]

This confuses me how it relates to her last messages
(not reposting screenshots because they were probably posted)
Maybe some kind of anti-religious rampage

Screenshots may have been posted in the big thread but I'm not seeing them here. Spoilered to not be spammy.

Spoiler: Phone screenshots

(other one won't post so here's an article archive. fuck)

 

[Rapunzel]

This is what happened to Kip Kinkel, he was on SSRIs for depression (he didn't tell anyone about the voices he was hearing), his parents had him go off cold turkey, and the combo of antidepressant withdrawal and schizophrenia pushed him over the edge.

Mind drugs are dodgy AF never mind messing around with gender hormones. Once you're settled on them you're pretty much OK but they don't even have to be SSRIs, topiramate is an anti epileptic, just anything that starts messing with brain stuff has potential and it's not always clear as to who is going to be the one that's going to sail through and who is going to be the one that's going to jump off a cliff.

 

[unctuous mouthfeel]

I wonder to what extent the increased amount of violent larp speech online can be blamed on these shooting ("Guillotine the rich" or "Trans day of vengeance!" on the left, equally dumb stuff on the right.) For people who truly believe those ideals, they must get pretty disillusioned realizing that 99.999999% of those posts are all talk and think "Well then I guess it's up to me!"
Not sure if there's any merit to that and I'm even less sure what to do about it. I'm mostly on the left (sorry to ruin the narrative that everyone on KF is a RW Nazi) but I support unfettered free speech even if it's odious to me or others (also I think trans people are ridiculous clowns.) That said, it seems like some people just can't handle it.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

For people who truly believe those ideals, they must get pretty disillusioned realizing that 99.999999% of those posts are all talk and think "Well then I guess it's up to me!"
Not sure if there's any merit to that and I'm even less sure what to do about it. I'm mostly on the left (sorry to ruin the narrative that everyone on KF is a RW Nazi) but I support unfettered free speech even if it's odious to me or others (also I think trans people are ridiculous clowns.) That said, it seems like some people just can't handle it.

I think most of them do believe it, they're just too scared to actually carry it out, whether it be against soft targets or the actual targets of their grievances.

Then you got some people who have just barely enough guts to go after soft targets.

It's the same reason why antifa loves burning down mom and pop shops, or even black owned businesses, but they usually shit themselves running when faced with a boomer or teenager with a cheap AR15.

Then there are the rare cases when they shit themselves AFTER being shot up, but I digress.

 

[Norbert the Tiger]

Crosspost from that other thread.

It seems she was fawning over some mongrel blackie she went to school with and was distraught over blackie's death in a car accident.

https://archive.ph/h05Rb

 

[Vampirdžija]

Crosspost from that other thread.

https://archive.ph/h05Rb

Me me me
This tragedy is MY suffering

 

[booklover]

This is what happened to Kip Kinkel, he was on SSRIs for depression (he didn't tell anyone about the voices he was hearing), his parents had him go off cold turkey, and the combo of antidepressant withdrawal and schizophrenia pushed him over the edge.

And if he hadn't killed them first, they'd probably still be in prison, because, like with that kid in Michigan, they supplied him with all the guns and ammo needed to do what he did.

 

[Toolbox]

Mind drugs are dodgy AF never mind messing around with gender hormones. Once you're settled on them you're pretty much OK but they don't even have to be SSRIs, topiramate is an anti epileptic, just anything that starts messing with brain stuff has potential and it's not always clear as to who is going to be the one that's going to sail through and who is going to be the one that's going to jump off a cliff.

I think you're still being too optimistic with that line. These drugs are likely causing long term brain damage once you become "settled" aka dependent on them. Some people can probably end up ok, but it is especially bad when you're essentially raised medicated like so many children are now and have been for years. Hasn't it been the case several times that shooters were heavily medicated, on some form of "antidepressant" etc?

 

[behindyourightnow]

I listened to NPR’s coverage of this yesterday and they completely avoided using pronouns for the shooter, they used her last name to the point where they were essentially using “Hale” as a pronoun. It was just so cringe to see them dancing around the very salient and newsworthy fact that an FTM did this. Even just the fact that biological women almost never go on killing sprees makes it relevant even if the motive turns out to have nothing to do w trans politics. NPR is so terrified of the trans outrage machine that they’d rather obscure a major facet of the story than even risk the mob’s wrath for mentioning it.

The media is caught between two opposing forces here. A female spree killer is so rare, it's a real man bites dog story and they could get a lot of profitable coverage out of it. Particularly since Americans have always shown a huge appetite for stories about female child-killers. But she's also a he/him, so we have to pretend it was just another ho-hum dude!

What is interesting: a lot of non-lefty news sources have just thrown in the towel and gone all-in with the misgendering, and even an outlet like NPR is defaulting to not using pronouns at all. This is never the case with male troon criminals, who always get "she/her" even if they are rapists/pedophiles/serial killers.

I think it's more proof that transmen have always just been along for the ride when it comes to institutional tranny acceptance. "Trans rights" is all about the autogynephiles, always has been. The he/hims get moderate respect for the sake of looking consistent. But the fake respect gets thrown aside the minute it's convenient.

 

[Tilapia]

I feel bad for the family of that girl she was obsessed with. Their daughter died a few years ago in a car accident at age 27, and just when life is probably starting to get back to normal for them, their dead daughter's face is plastered all over national news. All because some repressed pooner who shot up a school had a (likely) parasocial relationship with her.

 

[Testicle Slicer]

I wonder to what extent the increased amount of violent larp speech online can be blamed on these shooting ("Guillotine the rich" or "Trans day of vengeance!" on the left, equally dumb stuff on the right.) For people who truly believe those ideals, they must get pretty disillusioned realizing that 99.999999% of those posts are all talk and think "Well then I guess it's up to me!"
Not sure if there's any merit to that and I'm even less sure what to do about it. I'm mostly on the left (sorry to ruin the narrative that everyone on KF is a RW Nazi) but I support unfettered free speech even if it's odious to me or others (also I think trans people are ridiculous clowns.) That said, it seems like some people just can't handle it.

I'd estimate that there is 0 chance that such rhetoric didn't have an effect.

One of many reasons to be pissed off about what has happened is that the online extreme left have been flying red flags (both real and the metaphorical ones) for several years now, and we've heard a constant stream of denial that there's anything to worry about. They used exactly the same rhetoric and grooming techniques that we've been told to look out for and report when they come from Islamists and the far right; in fact, if there's any difference at all, it's that the far left, and especially the troons, have been a lot more explicit about their intentions. Somehow, the people who think that posting Deus Vult memes inevitably leads to murder have convinced themselves that troons and other weirdos explicitly inciting murder isn't a problem, because they're just an oppressed minority.

The only reason why we haven't seen a lot more far-left mass murders is because most of them are so incompetent (for multiple reasons that are probably very obvious). Remember the congressional baseball game shooting, when James Hodgkinson had dozens of captive, geriatric targets, fired 100 shots and somehow managed to not kill a single person? Maybe Audrey's kill count would be lower if schools didn't have those narrow corridors where you can't miss?

 

[NosirIwont]

Ok... I've listened to a lot of podcasts today and I have to brain dump, bare with me.
My biggest take away on this is, what drives someone to do this?

Candace Owens, regardless of her flaws, apparently found out about Audrey's name and her families house, looked up all her social media, and archived it as well as looking into her parents public posts before any tampering could be done.

I'm not going to go into all the details of her parents, they had been very caring and involved in her life. Attended all her school meets and art shows. Mom and dad have been married 30+ years. Very liked by their community.

So what the fuck happened when she went to college? She was out on her own for the first time and probably went wild like most kids do at that age. But did she try drugs? Did she make the wrong friends? I'm trying to play the 10 years that passed after she left.

One things for sure. She was brainwashed by this stupid shit about "genocide" against troons. Because a bill got passed to keep perverted adults from chemically castrating children....

What makes my blood boil the most is the open hostility and threats that those of the transgender ideology make, and NOTHING can be done about it, because the sheer utterance publicly of opposition will get you targeted and your life ruined.

Personally, I do not hate the troons, but I want the people who perpetuate this mind virus that is transgenderism to be hung from the rafters.