Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

[Mackerel Fish Stew]

And then, we have this educator, who shows us that you dont have to be white, to look like your deathly pale dick came off a corpse

Oh my god this one image made me realise something...

Spoiler: NSFW

The horrible scarring left by these abdominal phalloplasty/tentacle dick procedures? It just looks like a c-section scar So manly!

 

[booklover]

Maybe that person DID have a c-section prior to transition?

 

[Mackerel Fish Stew]

Maybe that person DID have a c-section prior to transition?

Wait shit, I think you're right. They also provided this photo:

Spoiler: NSFW

Looking at that clean Mickey Mouse glove-like line between the bare hand and the tattooed arm, it has clearly been degloved. So this person sacrificed their arm when they have huge clockable c-section scars
I still stand by my point that any normal person would sniff out a pooner with abdominal flap phalloplasty by identifying her scars as being from a c-section, then run screaming when they see the curled scarred tentacle lurking within her pants.

 

[KiwiFuzz]

Pooner's surgeon called her "hysterical."

Goddamn they totally nailed the "make it look like I have an anglerfish burrowed in my crotch" look.

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That fish is 100% more female than whatever that separated crotch wound is. A lot of that particular wound looks more like subcutaneous fat than it does skin. I think about 5 inches of stitching popped.

But about the fish...

The large, freaky fish are females. The males live as parasitic lumps on the female.

There's a lot of metaphor here.

 

[Fapcop]

Goddamn they totally nailed the "make it look like I have an anglerfish burrowed in my crotch" look.

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GYNOS CANT TELL THE DIFFERENCE YOU CHUD!

 

[Got Milk!]

GYNOS MARINE BIOLOGISTS CANT TELL THE DIFFERENCE YOU CHUD!

FTFY*

 

[Myrtle the Turtle]

Reading this article, I felt that this was not written by butchers, as the authors expressed far too much empathy and concern about the well-being of the patients. I was correct. Meet the two main authors:

• Emery Potter is a nurse who works at the college where the study took place. https://ca.linkedin.com/in/emery-potter-a2100745
• Marudan Sivagurunathan has a PhD and has studied childhood sexual abuse in males, domestic violence, and troon shit. Basically he specializes in intimately abused males, which I think makes him pretty qualified to write about about post-op TiMs. https://ca.linkedin.com/in/marudan-sivagurunathan-89b97072

I have nothing against these people, it’s just interesting that they’re the people bothering to study this, while the butchers who are actually responsible for all that suffering ignore it and get off without so much as a warning.

Very informative. My guess is they are diving into tranny studies to find out if its really the best method of care. If they really cared about their patients and their work, highlighting the serious risks of SRS and compiling it into a scientific paper is the first step in stopping it. Like "hey, maybe we really shouldn't be trying to turn change genders surgically and get to the real root cause of the problem."

 

[Fapcop]

Very informative. My guess is they are diving into tranny studies to find out if its really the best method of care. If they really cared about their patients and their work, highlighting the serious risks of SRS and compiling it into a scientific paper is the first step in stopping it. Like "hey, maybe we really shouldn't be trying to turn change genders surgically and get to the real root cause of the problem."

Go to any FTM subreddit, and you’ll see them discuss how their “dysphoria” moved down after getting “top surgery”, and they are now super dysphoric about their ass/hips/vagina after getting rid of their breasts and “chest dysphoria”.

None of these surgeries are a cure, because the real problem is in their head, not on their body.

But I guess there’s too much money to acknowledge that from anyone involved with “gender care”.

 

[On a Journey]

Go to any FTM subreddit, and you’ll see them discuss how their “dysphoria” moved down after getting “top surgery”, and they are now super dysphoric about their ass/hips/vagina after getting rid of their breasts and “chest dysphoria”.

None of these surgeries are a cure, because the real problem is in their head, not on their body.

But I guess there’s too much money to acknowledge that from anyone involved with “gender care”.

This is practically ubiquitous among troons. I think it’s because their goal (truly being/feeling like the opposite sex) is impossible, so they’re never satisfied and thus are always looking forward to the next thing. They live on the hope that this next surgery is what will finally make them happy and fix their mental health issues. It’s like an anorexic who gets down to a goal weight but finds she still isn’t happy and decides that if she just loses ten more pounds she won’t hate her body anymore.

For the TiFs, they cut their hair and start dressing more masculine and initially get a burst of euphoria and attention from their friends. When the novelty wears off, they start to feel like they’re just a girl wearing a costume, and they decide that if they just start taking testosterone, they’ll be a real man. So they get on T, but after a year or so their “progress” slows down and they realize they’re still just a hairy woman with a deeper voice and an enlarged clitoris. The next obvious step is a double-mastectomy, as their breasts have been deformed by binding and the combination of boobs with the changes they’ve seen on T is hideous. Plus, everyone is so happy after their top surgery, right? So they get their top surgery. After an exciting few months of incision care and going topless in public, they see the final outcome and of course they’re still women, just now with ugly, obvious scars instead of breasts. Some are satisfied at this point, but for many it still doesn’t feel right. Often this is when they get a hysterectomy because they think that’s what’s causing that nagging feeling that they’re still a woman. They look into bottom surgery and decide to get it. Many go for metoidioplasty because it’s less risky, but then a few years later “upgrade” to a phalloplasty because it just wasn’t masculine enough. So now they’ve had a phalloplasty, and they get trapped in a cycle of urethra issues, failed erectile devices, infections, etc. It’s always the next revision surgery that will finally make their “dick” fully functional and cis passing. Then they’ll finally feel whole. Of course, that never happens. They will never be male but they cannot admit this to themselves because then everything was a lie and all that pain was for nothing.

It’s essentially the same thought process for TiMs but the order they do their surgeries (vaginoplasty, VFS, FFS, BA, etc) in is less consistent. No matter what, the doctors are always happy to move them down the pipeline. Many of these patients also develop dependencies on painkillers and attention, reinforcing their railroad track to Hell.

Edit: slight change in wording to satisfy my OCD

 

[Map-Kinase-Kinase-Kinase]

Very informative. My guess is they are diving into tranny studies to find out if its really the best method of care. If they really cared about their patients and their work, highlighting the serious risks of SRS and compiling it into a scientific paper is the first step in stopping it. Like "hey, maybe we really shouldn't be trying to turn change genders surgically and get to the real root cause of the problem."@

I clicked on that Meta-Analysis and lo and behold.. is that Rumer?

 

[Foxymophandlemama]

Go to any FTM subreddit, and you’ll see them discuss how their “dysphoria” moved down after getting “top surgery”, and they are now super dysphoric about their ass/hips/vagina after getting rid of their breasts and “chest dysphoria”.

None of these surgeries are a cure, because the real problem is in their head, not on their body.

But I guess there’s too much money to acknowledge that from anyone involved with “gender care”.

Your comment reminded me of people who are addicted to plastic surgery. Many of them try to "fix" something they see as wrong and when they do it, they fixate in another "flaw" on their bodies, starting a never ending cycle of surgeries and butchery. And many that see it happening say that they are mentally ill.

But not troons, of course.

 

[Fapcop]

I clicked on that Meta-Analysis and lo and behold.. is that Rumer?

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Why yes it is Rumer!




Conflict of interest? NONE, lol!

As far as these studies go, they have two main problems.

1: There tends to be no central authority that keeps track of troons and post op troons.

2: Many of the studies have a fairly large amount of post op troons that just drop out of the study. The ones who complete the study tend to be the ones with the smallest amount of complications.

And the meta study STILL shows that over a third had complications.

I’ll end this with a doozy of a case story:

Perforation of the neovagina in a male-to-female transsexual: a case report - Journal of Medical Case Reports

Introduction There are several techniques for creation of a neovagina in male-to-female reassignment surgery. Although vaginoplasty with the sigmoid colon is not a common procedure, it is becoming more common. Perforation of the recto-sigmoid neovagina after sex reassignment surgery is very...

jmedicalcasereports.biomedcentral.com

Featuring a troon who LITERALLY fucked/dilated open a hole in the “neovagina” leading to infection and internal abscess.

Spoiler: Gore

Your comment reminded me of people who are addicted to plastic surgery. Many of them try to "fix" something they see as wrong and when they do it, they fixate in another "flaw" on their bodies, starting a never ending cycle of surgeries and butchery. And many that see it happening say that they are mentally ill.

But not troons, of course.

Another good example would be junkies, who are always chasing the next fix, and never could get enough.

Except junkies have a lot more common sense than troons.

A junkie KNOWS he has a problem. He might not be able to deal with it, but at least you and he/she can agree on common ground that there is an issue.

A junkie wouldn’t say that you’re being “opiophobic” or misinformed.

Troons would and do.

 

[Peaches Demure]

I found an amhole so obviously busted and hideous that even the troons of r/Transgender_surgeries aren't trying to hugbox its owner and tell him it's totally beautiful and valid.

Spoiler: Apparently the work of one Matthias Waldner, Switzerland

Comments:

"This is so scary to me and makes me question whether having SRS is right for me" <--- Can this be... a troon actually having a moment of clarity?

Reddit - Dive into anything

www.reddit.com

 

[Positron]

I’ll end this with a doozy of a case story:

Featuring a troon who LITERALLY fucked/dilated open a hole in the “neovagina” leading to infection and internal abscess.

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"Antibiotics for multidrug resistant bacteria were continued". We have to waste our last line of defense against killer bugs and help cultivated the next generation of super-killer bugs, all because some very sick men want their sexual thrills.

May these troons burn in hell.

 

[Tau Tack]

not sure I want to zoom in any for there but I don’t see any stitches, in any part of the lower section at all. I can see a few in the dickhead, but nothing below. There’s a couple of layers there as well that should have stitches and I can’t see any. Someone point out where they are? Or has the butcher fucked off to the golf course early and forget to tell the junior gopher to actually close up?

I see a few, not enough (almost looks as if they have been cut—to fail after five days? Wicked), and no evidence of surface removable stitches around the lower area. Perhaps the surgeon used glue but that seems insane. The separation is almost impressive. It’s fatty and bloodless-looking.

 

[Tard Whisperer]

is it a good idea to mutilate the genitals of someone with a blood clotting disorder? let's experiment!

'2 ½ weeks later (Open Wound)' -u/ImOswin

Spoiler: mutilation

First, these pictures have open wounds. These are related to the surgery on hidradenitis suppurativa that I had to do with my meta to prevent infection. While it's technically labia majora reduction, it shouldn't be considered an expected result of that.
I cannot get the swelling to go down on my peen at all. These pictures are in order oldest (about a week old) to newest (today). I had my stitches open up on Wednesday morning while using the bathroom.
I'll get my catheter out on Wednesday. So far most everything else is healing fairly well. I'll do my voiding trial in the morning. I've been doing my best to push the foreskin back but having a hard time with it because of the swelling.
For those who have had trouble with swelling when you had yours done, do you remember how long it took to go down? Any tips on pushing the foreskin back?

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'Update: 1 month post op' - u/ImOswin

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I'm fairly happy with my progress so far. The Hidradenitis Suppurativa wound is healing fairly well. I was able to come back home this past weekend.

Unfortunately, I have developed a small blood clot in my left thigh. My hematologist isn't concerned about the blood clot. I have a blood clotting disorder so resting to allow the wound to heal provoked the clot. It is early enough to not need hospitalization, but I'm on blood thinners now. It's slowing my already slow healing process though.

So far my dermatologist doesn't feel the need to see me, but if the progress slows too much, I'll need to go in to see if I need wound care. So crossing my fingers that doesn't happen.

Being home has improved my mood significantly. I've had several people reach out offering physical support now that I'm here.

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[Free the Pedos]

Its really hilarious when MTFs are confused when their sex drive tanks after Estrogen/stinkditch surgery, do they seriously not know that a female's sex drive is a lot lower than a male's? Isn't this what you wanted?

But they don’t have a female sex drive. They’ve just destroyed their male sex drive.
(I don’t think it’s universally true that men always have a higher sex drive than women, but that’s not the important part.)

 

[Thomas Eugene Paris]

This is super late (I took a couple months off of reading this thread because the psychological horror was getting to me), but from a cursory thread search it seems that nobody has posted the full article yet.

This study is a good start. That said, the n is so small that all of their data are pretty much useless. A sample population of 80 simply doesn't carry that much weight. Especially in a country with public healthcare, I don't think it really says that much that more than half of 80 troons sought follow-up care.

It's a good sign that this was even published, even if it's not in a high impact factor journal. The tides are turning, slowly but surely.

Why yes it is Rumer!


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Conflict of interest? NONE, lol!

As far as these studies go, they have two main problems.

1: There tends to be no central authority that keeps track of troons and post op troons.

2: Many of the studies have a fairly large amount of post op troons that just drop out of the study. The ones who complete the study tend to be the ones with the smallest amount of complications.

And the meta study STILL shows that over a third had complications.

I’ll end this with a doozy of a case story:

Perforation of the neovagina in a male-to-female transsexual: a case report - Journal of Medical Case Reports

Introduction There are several techniques for creation of a neovagina in male-to-female reassignment surgery. Although vaginoplasty with the sigmoid colon is not a common procedure, it is becoming more common. Perforation of the recto-sigmoid neovagina after sex reassignment surgery is very...

jmedicalcasereports.biomedcentral.com

Featuring a troon who LITERALLY fucked/dilated open a hole in the “neovagina” leading to infection and internal abscess.

Spoiler: Gore

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Another good example would be junkies, who are always chasing the next fix, and never could get enough.

Except junkies have a lot more common sense than troons.

A junkie KNOWS he has a problem. He might not be able to deal with it, but at least you and he/she can agree on common ground that there is an issue.

A junkie wouldn’t say that you’re being “opiophobic” or misinformed.

Troons would and do.

Regarding the "conflict of interest" declaration, in this type of published research, that generally just refers to a conflict of financial interest. The authors are stating that they do not have a financial interest in their data. I mean, obviously they do in this case, but performing the surgeries on which they're reporting isn't really a conflict of interest per se. As an example, if an author were owner of shares in a pharmaceutical company that makes the drug being used in the experiments described in the paper, that would be a reportable conflict of interest.

The "conflict of interest" disclosure is one of those silly things that means one thing to researchers and another thing in real life. I'm obviously not saying that this is ethical; there's a major reproducibility crisis in science right now and manipulation like this is part of the cause.

 

[On a Journey]

This study is a good start. That said, the n is so small that all of their data are pretty much useless. A sample population of 80 simply doesn't carry that much weight. Especially in a country with public healthcare, I don't think it really says that much that more than half of 80 troons sought follow-up care.

Though 80 participants would be a tiny study in real medicine, all the troon “medicine” studies I’ve seen have really tiny populations. I can’t think of any that have even 100 participants (not counting meta-analyses and surveys), so I think it’s a relatively solid study. For instance, the classic axe-wound microbiome study only had 9 participants.

 

[Thomas Eugene Paris]

Though 80 participants would be a tiny study in real medicine, all the troon “medicine” studies I’ve seen have really tiny populations. I can’t think of any that have even 100 participants (not counting meta-analyses and surveys), so I think it’s a relatively solid study. For instance, the classic axe-wound microbiome study only had 9 participants.

Now that you mention it, I can't remember seeing any troon studies with a decent n, either. Well, that certainly speaks volumes about the quality of the research being done in this field, anyway.