Plagued Consoomers / Consoomer Culture - Because if it has a recogniseable brand on it, I’d buy it!

[SpiderBitch]

all we get are fucking fast food knockoffs made from reconstituted soy protein or whatever

I'm still salty about the McDonalds in my country removing the veggie burger with a patty made of I think beans, carrots, peas and other vegetables, which didn't pretend to be meat, and replacing it with nasty fake chicken and beef burgers, making them just worse and even less healthy versions of the meat burgers and ironically giving meat eaters less of a reason to buy it because it's not it's own thing anymore, now it's just a worse big mac or McChicken....

It's genuinely baffling how bad the modern West is at making tasty and normal meat replacements that aren't an imitation of something else, when shit like falafel goes back to the ancient times.
Some things made with nuts or lentils etc are creative, but they keep insisting on naming it 'meatballs' or 'cheese' rather than letting it be it's own separate product, and it's always difficult to tell beforehand what vegan 'cheese' is something entirely different but actually good with the cheese label needlessly slapped onto it, and what is a horrifying cheese imitation.




Please go back to scrambling tofu like a normal hippie.

 

[Yaks]

People need to learn to cook, simple as. Vegetarian food is nice - veggies are wonderful anyways, and should be cooked with respect to bring out their flavours.

Why learn to cook when you can just consoom? You see it all the time in the "day of my life" tiktok wannabe influencers. The amount of money they spend on takeout and overpriced processed crap that's considered "high end" processed crap is honestly pretty impressive. They're the same people that cry "you can't take my latte" when suggested ways to save money.

The most I see them make are salads and those overnight oats.

 

[NoReturn]

I'm still salty about the McDonalds in my country removing the veggie burger with a patty made of I think beans, carrots, peas and other vegetables, which didn't pretend to be meat, and replacing it with nasty fake chicken and beef burgers, making them just worse and even less healthy versions of the meat burgers and ironically giving meat eaters less of a reason to buy it because it's not it's own thing anymore, now it's just a worse big mac or McChicken....

That's actually a really good example of the difference I was trying to describe earlier. I'm not trying to shit on people who eat a certain diet, I'm shitting on hyper-processed, hyper-consumerist food "products".
A McDonalds veggie patty isn't great for you, and it's still pretty processed, but it's still a patty-made-of-vegetables. Beyond and Impossible aren't that. They're meat "replacements" made of waste products from the manufacture of other items that has been recombined into a meat-simulacra.

Please go back to scrambling tofu like a normal hippie.

Why learn to cook when you can just consoom? You see it all the time in the "day of my life" tiktok wannabe influencers. The amount of money they spend on takeout and overpriced processed crap that's considered "high end" processed crap is honestly pretty impressive. They're the same people that cry "you can't take my latte" when suggested ways to save money.

The most I see them make are salads and those overnight oats.

 

[melty]

That's actually a really good example of the difference I was trying to describe earlier. I'm not trying to shit on people who eat a certain diet, I'm shitting on hyper-processed, hyper-consumerist food "products".
A McDonalds veggie patty isn't great for you, and it's still pretty processed, but it's still a patty-made-of-vegetables. Beyond and Impossible aren't that. They're meat "replacements" made of waste products from the manufacture of other items that has been recombined into a meat-simulacra.

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These videos are so triggering, almost none of this shit is actual food. Also that top video woman is apparently my age and a "registered dietician" but she looks ten years older even with all that filler. Eat real food, people.

 

[NoReturn]

These videos are so triggering, almost none of this shit is actual food.

Do you like how that last one says "Vegan products" not vegan "food"? Here's more of that:

"Nutrients, whatever."

Also that top video woman is apparently my age and a "registered dietician" but she looks ten years older even with all that filler. Eat real food, people.

Abbey Sharp is someone we could discuss in any of the vegan threads, but she's also a clickbait influencer if you want to go down that rabbit hole.

 

[Yaks]

These videos are so triggering, almost none of this shit is actual food. Also that top video woman is apparently my age and a "registered dietician" but she looks ten years older even with all that filler. Eat real food, people.

I wonder how many of these people know how to cook aside from heating something up in the oven/microwave, eggs, or prepackaged mixes.

Do you like how that last one says "Vegan products" not vegan "food"? Here's more of that:
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"Nutrients, whatever."

Veganhackspod gives me a new social media presenter voice to hate.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

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"i discovered a product so artificial that it is accidentally vegan"

The whole goyslop industry in a nutshell

 

[NoReturn]

Veganhackspod gives me a new social media presenter voice to hate.

"i discovered a product so artificial that it is accidentally vegan"

"Accidentally vegan" is a whole mini-meme when it comes to junk food

They seem to view it as more "We tricked the big corporations into doing something good! Score one for the little guy! Look how easy it is to consume a vegan diet!"

 

[Yaks]

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"Ethical and sustainable" is always the most bullshit line I hear. See Palm Oil, the labor shortage on farms in the US and immigrant problem, Vegan Alternatives made out of plastic and oil, etc. Also I hate him so much.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

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"Accidentally vegan" is a whole mini-meme when it comes to junk food
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They seem to view it as more "We tricked the big corporations into doing something good! Score one for the little guy! Look how easy it is to consume a vegan diet!"
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Bread with garlic is vegan? no waay, wooow, thank you, Domino's! blew my mind. Bonus points if its accidentally real bread and not just some reconstitued wood paste resembling bread.

 

[Cumroad]

I don't tiktok. Some of the shit I've seen in this thread has blown my mind. Veganism, or just eating responsibly has great merits. Whatever in season and as close to local as you can get. But I didn't realize the bizarre connection influencers make with veganism/environmentally conscious eating and the discovery and consumption of unhealthy overly processed slop. Food items with internationally sourced ingredients wrapped in disposable waste are not responsible products. And you record it and promote it (for free) to your audience? Do vegan influences have a moral reason to be vegan? No, it's mostly for social points, and they promote a bullshit variation of it to their easily encouraged viewers.

But, plenty of us, even some in this thread, in one way or another enjoy conveniences of consumer culture. Do the initiated have any advice on maintaining a lifestyle as far away from whatever the fuck is contained in this thread?

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

But I didn't realize the bizarre connection influencers make with veganism/environmentally

Another insane rabbit hole is the supplement bussiness. Vegans have a pretty big industry of them. Often is not just a scam but they do need it to not get sick from their shitty nutrition so they are perfect costumers.

Then there's the Liver Kings and Alex Jones types selling snake oil to become an apex predator or some shit, it honestly drives me mad how much Grifters love to sell supplements that it inmediatly clocks them as bullshit peddlers. There must be a factory in china making placebos and they just separate the labels from right to left wing at the end and both are marketed as "going back to nature"

Do the initiated have any advice on maintaining a lifestyle as far away from whatever the fuck is contained in this thread?

Living within or below your means and not participating in social media would be my main takeaway. Propaganda and advertising have become one of the same and this is bad for the psyche, if you can't win a game the other best option is to not participate, at least in so much as it is still possible.

 

[Spud]

Look I don't want to be that guy, but Ukraine is a genuine nazi state. This isn't really a matter of "Oh they're just mostly conservative" like no. Straight up goose stepping, hand waving Nazis.

So what?

 

[Yaks]

Do the initiated have any advice on maintaining a lifestyle as far away from whatever the fuck is contained in this thread?

It depends on how far you want to take it, really. You'll always be "consuming" in some way, that's how capitalism works. Even the Amish are consumers.

For the food portion: Learn to fucking cook. It doesn't need to be time consuming or complicated. You'll save a shit ton of money tho and eat a lot better.

Spoiler

I like to take one day a week to just mass cook stuff in big batches, then separate them out by portion size to put in the freezer. I've done this enough now that I've got my own mini freezer section that I can pick and choose on a whim. I've felt way more satiated for longer and physically better, plus I save a shit ton of money for just a few hours at most of work a week.

Don't become beholden to BRAND. Learn to see through the shill and look at alternatives.
Ignore ads. Go search it out yourself and compare products when you need something. At most an ad should make you aware something exists, take everything they say as a grain of salt. (This warning is brought to you by NordVPN)
Don't turn a hobby into part of your personality or a "lifestyle". This is how you end up with $12,000 in Funko Pops because you're the Funko Pop Guy to the people around you.

The most important one, if you are male, is never open your mouth to hoot like an angry gorilla when you receive a nerd product. It's called social contagion and it will send you down a spiral of misery.

 

[Alouatta Simia Belzebul]

Ukraine's adjacent nazism and the co-opt of the flag / cause by gay men aren't a coincidence; gay men (collectively) love fascism or at least fascist aesthetics, and just as exploitation of ukraine refugee women has become a recent popular porn trend for straight men, I bet there's been similar developments in gay porn. Gay men do publicly acknowledge it sometimes:

https://www.bostonreview.net/articles/daniel-penny-milosexual/

The Damned and Fascism's Queer Aesthetics

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I can also recommend meal prepping / batch cooking.

 

[NoReturn]

Bread with garlic is vegan? no waay, wooow, thank you, Domino's! blew my mind. Bonus points if its accidentally real bread and not just some reconstitued wood paste resembling bread.

It's never bread. Third ingredient in the "garlic bread"-bread is palm oil and it also contains "dough conditioners".
The "butter" is called "Garlic Oil Blend" and is made with "liquid and hydrogenated soybean oil, palm oil, sunflower and soy lecithin".

I don't tiktok. Some of the shit I've seen in this thread has blown my mind. Veganism, or just eating responsibly has great merits. Whatever in season and as close to local as you can get. But I didn't realize the bizarre connection influencers make with veganism/environmentally conscious eating and the discovery and consumption of unhealthy overly processed slop. Food items with internationally sourced ingredients wrapped in disposable waste are not responsible products. And you record it and promote it (for free) to your audience? Do vegan influences have a moral reason to be vegan? No, it's mostly for social points, and they promote a bullshit variation of it to their easily encouraged viewers.

@Yaks and @LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV] gave some good advice already, because yeah, it's not just vegans who do this kind of weird "It's ok if I consoom product because it's ___________." and fill in the blank with whatever they're using to enable those purchases.

E.g. Some more "virtuous"/"cost-saving" consumption
"Eco friendly"

"Dupes"

"Dollar store"

"Small business"

"Black owned business"
(Yes, this lady claims her cream will give you bbl-butt, and it's vegan!)

(You can find this shit by searching any trendy term + the word "haul")

But, plenty of us, even some in this thread, in one way or another enjoy conveniences of consumer culture. Do the initiated have any advice on maintaining a lifestyle as far away from whatever the fuck is contained in this thread?

Convenience is its own thing, and nobody's perfect, but I think as a general rule the 3 Rs the Anglosphere learned growing up hold true + 1: Reduce, Reuse, Recycle, Refuse.
The 4 Rs tend to be a good guideline not just for avoiding literal waste, but it helps save money, time, space, and other resources in your personal life as well.

E.g.

• If you buy something on sale that you weren't originally going to buy at all, you aren't saving money.
• Using a limited number of hygiene and cosmetic products ensures you use them up instead of having them clutter up the place or expire because you forgot you had five different types of lotion or whatever.
• Having a set shopping list of things you know you'll use and/or actually need reduces mental load and frees up your time.

 

[Shig O'nella]

5 Rs.

Repair. Which is pretty much designed to be impossible now, unless you pick carefully.

 

[glass_houses]

5 Rs.

Repair. Which is pretty much designed to be impossible now, unless you pick carefully.

I have one of these in my kitchen cupboard:



For those of you unfamiliar with this device, it is a Depression era glass lemon squeezer. Yes, I do use it. Not regularly because I'm a lazy cook, but on occasion I'll pull it out and put it to use. I've had a number of people comment on it and ask me why I don't buy a modern version. This is because most affordably priced lemon squeezers are made of plastic, which degrades and eventually breaks. There are metal versions around, but they're expensive and go rusty if you don't maintain them properly. The hundred year old glass squeezer is surprisingly sturdy and survives bumps, jolts and taps, and yet squeezes on. You could leave it outside for twenty years and it'd still be perfectly fine for use after a good clean and sterilisation. There is absolutely no reason why it won't be still around and perfectly fine for use after another hundred years.

Old tools- be they shed tools or kitchen tools- are worth examining and seeing if they can still be used. Without electricity cords or plastic, they are usually sturdier, amenable to repair and, if your house is damaged and the power grid offline for an extended length of time due to natural disaster, a lifesaver.

 

[Dieter Laser]

Old tools- be they shed tools or kitchen tools- are worth examining and seeing if they can still be used. Without electricity cords or plastic, they are usually sturdier, amenable to repair and, if your house is damaged and the power grid offline for an extended length of time due to natural disaster, a lifesaver.

So much this. I inherited all of my grandfather’s and great grandfather’s tools and I use them instead of modern versions 99% of the time. Even stuff like hand drills are amazing still and completely usable. They’ll outlast us all.

 

[Maldavius Figtree]

they do need it to not get sick from their shitty nutrition

Don’t you basically only need B12 if you don’t eat meat? And afaik that is only in meat because the lifestock is fed B12 themselves, since none of the meat we eat has ever seen real grass in its life.