Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[PS1gamenwatch]

Will this affect things

A raging war in Ukraine and Russia has assumed the UNSC presidency despite Ukraine's complaints. The United States said that it could not block Russia which is a permanent council member from assuming the Presidency.

 

[Yak-130 Mitten]

Will this affect things

Ask yourself if UN ever accomplished anything against any country that can defend itself. That'll be your answer.

 

[Betonhaus]

To the radar thing, I remember a short bit in a science fiction book series called Lost Fleet (It's really good, it gets my seal of approval). In a solar system that's been cut off from military updates for centuries, maybe even millenia, the fleet encounters a radar probe. They are easily dispatched, and the fleet commander comments on how useless they are, especially in space. Radar waves have to travel to the target and come back, while optical sensors only need to pick up the photons of the object traveling at the

That was a really good series. It had at least two spinoff series, and one of them had the fleet admiral go to earth, who was under the tyrannical rule of the society that had expanded to planets in the other direction. They had fancy showy ships but they hadn't been in a proper war in a very long time, so their fleet was dispatched by the sole ship the fleet admiral came to earth in.

 

[Fatniggo1488]

To the radar thing, I remember a short bit in a science fiction book series called Lost Fleet (It's really good, it gets my seal of approval). In a solar system that's been cut off from military updates for centuries, maybe even millenia, the fleet encounters a radar probe. They are easily dispatched, and the fleet commander comments on how useless they are, especially in space. Radar waves have to travel to the target and come back, while optical sensors only need to pick up the photons of the object traveling at the speed of light.

I think we are going the same way, where optics eventually get so good that they will be able to track targets in real time across distances limited only by curvature of the earth (which in itself already is a problem for normal radars, so wouldn't be surprised if these kind of defences would be put up in space). Think satellites, only much quicker, and able to track multiple targets at the same time in real time.

I think optical sensors are going to start entering into militaries, but I also thing magnetic field based sensors are going to start being used too. I've been reading about a lot of countries experimenting with them recently.

 

[870EVO]

I mean, its not like australians are known for smart military decisions... but this is exceptionally stupid.

Former Aus PM Keating said that the subs and support for them, are probably a deal between Australia and the US for future joint attacks against the Chinese coast. I tend to believe him.

In other news. Looks like the US has people inside Russia.

https://twitter.com/PeImeniPusha/status/1642560544358948872

Donbass Devushka on Twitter: "🇷🇺An improvised explosive device that went off in a St. Petersburg cafe was carried there by a girl. This is reported by several media at once. She hid the IED in a figurine, which she presented to military commander Vla

ghostarchive.org

 

[make_it_so]

Former Aus PM Keating said that the subs and support for them, are probably a deal between Australia and the US for future joint attacks against the Chinese coast. I tend to believe him.

In other news. Looks like the US has people inside Russia.

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https://twitter.com/PeImeniPusha/status/1642560544358948872

Donbass Devushka on Twitter: "🇷🇺An improvised explosive device that went off in a St. Petersburg cafe was carried there by a girl. This is reported by several media at once. She hid the IED in a figurine, which she presented to military commander Vla

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And just days after the state department warned all Americans against traveling to or staying in Russia.

Who knew what, and when?

 

[Corpun]

Another terrorist attack, now in St. Petersburg, a bomb blast killed Vladlen Tatarsky, a well-known Russian military correspondent

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Former Aus PM Keating said that the subs and support for them, are probably a deal between Australia and the US for future joint attacks against the Chinese coast. I tend to believe him.

In other news. Looks like the US has people inside Russia.

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https://twitter.com/PeImeniPusha/status/1642560544358948872

Donbass Devushka on Twitter: "🇷🇺An improvised explosive device that went off in a St. Petersburg cafe was carried there by a girl. This is reported by several media at once. She hid the IED in a figurine, which she presented to military commander Vla

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How many Ukies have glowniggers trained for this? If they've been forced to admir they wer einvolved in sabotaging the pipeline, I wouldn't put it past them to supply Ukies in Russia or groom anti-Government Russians into terrorism.

 

[Secret Asshole]

How many Ukies have glowniggers trained for this? If they've been forced to admir they wer einvolved in sabotaging the pipeline, I wouldn't put it past them to supply Ukies in Russia or groom anti-Government Russians into terrorism.

I mean, its almost certainly an op. This reeks of CIA. They've 100% got assets inside Russia and are carrying this out.

I mean, the CIA was training Ukies to do fucking war crimes, so terrorism isn't much more of a step.

 

[Male Idiot]

Its a scale, the benefits of being a buddy of the US are better than the Russo-China block no doubt.
But as things are currently the US is doing nothing but degrade its quality of life and R&D purely for an ideological mind virus that gives nothing in return, very similar to how the islamic golden age of science and technology ended when the most fervent anti-science dumbfuck got in charge of the caliphate.
Meanwhile Russia and China despite their obvious cultural and economical flaws are very practically minded. focused on raw tangible results to improve their standing on the world and now that US money is no longer in the table they have to scrap by and get creative with what they have to make do, which is great for creativity.
I can't predict the future of course, for all i know the Russo-China block could collapse tomorrow and the US get a second golden age, but if things continue like this it'll probably take only a generation for the scale to tip to the other side

Honestly, they are already as bossy as Stalin alongside the EU. The only current benefit of being buddy with the US is not getting freedom bombs.

Russians generally don't condone dog eating and organ "donership" so the worst they do is being rowdy and drunk, but its not like the US doesn't have W/Niggers.

The US that a lot of the world looked up to was the 1950s power where you were relatively safe, and chimping darkies were hosed down, fags were ousted from office, and you could save from 2 summer jobs and get a comfy Dodge car, etc.

Sadly that US is long gone.

 

[Corpun]

I mean, its almost certainly an op. This reeks of CIA. They've 100% got assets inside Russia and are carrying this out.

I mean, the CIA was training Ukies to do fucking war crimes, so terrorism isn't much more of a step.

Makes me wonder how many handlers they have in the country. You can't just remotely trigger these operations and agents. That travel warning is really making more sense now, guess we can expect a bunch of articles reporting more American journos, aid workers, etc. arrested on grounds of potentially glowing.

 

[Secret Asshole]

Japan Breaks With U.S. Allies, Buys Russian Oil at Prices Above Cap

Citing energy needs, Tokyo won legal exception to rules binding Group of Seven nations.

www.wsj.com

https://archive.is/sbw3T

Japan Breaks With U.S. Allies, Buys Russian Oil at Prices Above Cap - Citing energy needs, Tokyo won exception to rules binding G-7 nations

And this war continues to be a fucking Western embarrassment. Yes, they had to petition the U.S. to do it, but if they were denied it'd only drive them further into a Sino-Russian sphere.

But the fact they even asked is embarrassing. Getting denied and going 'fuck it' would have been way worse. Yeah, U.S. supremacy totes wasn't affected by this war. Just one of our closest allies in Asia asking and being fucked if the U.S. refuses, also pissing off other U.S. allies by showing the sanctions are dogshit, and so is the G-7.

Makes me wonder how many handlers they have in the country. You can't just remotely trigger these operations and agents. That travel warning is really making more sense now, guess we can expect a bunch of articles reporting more American journos, aid workers, etc. arrested on grounds of potentially glowing.

Its impossible to know, but the first place I'd look would be NGOs. But yeah, I wouldn't be shocked if there were agents placed as journos.

 

[Sock-to-Lurk]

And this war continues to be a fucking Western embarrassment. Yes, they had to petition the U.S. to do it, but if they were denied it'd only drive them further into a Sino-Russian sphere.

But the fact they even asked is embarrassing. Getting denied and going 'fuck it' would have been way worse. Yeah, U.S. supremacy totes wasn't affected by this war. Just one of our closest allies in Asia asking and being fucked if the U.S. refuses, also pissing off other U.S. allies by showing the sanctions are dogshit, and so is the G-7.

This pretty much invalidates any meaningful effect the sanctions had, it basically says
"Your biggest allies need us more than what you can provide"

 

[The Ugly One]

Radar waves have to travel to the target and come back, while optical sensors only need to pick up the photons of the object traveling at the speed of light.

Radar waves are photons, and they travel at the speed of light, and the speed of light is constant across the entire spectrum. The fact that you're detecting reflections from your own emitter means you can determine speed with extremely high accuracy, which you don't get when you're just detecting EM waves scattering off the target from any old random source.

 

[Halmaz]

also pissing off other U.S. allies by showing the sanctions are dogshit, and so is the G-7.

I fear the rest are too cucked to ask for an exception, but this really shows that the US is losing the plot.

 

[gayberouse]

In Afghanistan, the European nations (headed by Britain) gave specific instructions to the Americans along the lines of "Do not just flatten everything and murder everyone, or your enemy will become more like by the people and thus the people will turn insurgents against you". That's why the Hearts and Minds campaign was thought up.

What you're forgetting is that we weren't actually there to nation build that was just how the media spun it, we were there to keep the war going as long as possible in order to fill the pockets of the MIC. And second, the "winning hearts and minds strategy" doesn't actually work which is tied into the first point, that's why the ruskies have been so effective so far in pacifying the eastern region of ukraine; liberal values have no place in warfare unless you want to hamstring your own forces. Look at Vietnam, look at Afghanistan. And before you say that this strategy was not in place in the latter country, I know from a lot of people that were in the sandbox over there that anyone with even a hint of a "war crime" without hiding it like anyone with two braincells to rub together is still rotting away in Leavenworth.

 

[Melight]

Makes me wonder how many handlers they have in the country. You can't just remotely trigger these operations and agents. That travel warning is really making more sense now, guess we can expect a bunch of articles reporting more American journos, aid workers, etc. arrested on grounds of potentially glowing.

The US has assests in every country lets not kid ourself that this is unexpected. What will be interesting to find out how large those networks are (cold war levels or higher/lower) and if the US also still has its assets in allied countries (i.e Gladio V2)

 

[Yak-130 Mitten]

Radar waves are photons, and they travel at the speed of light, and the speed of light is constant across the entire spectrum. The fact that you're detecting reflections from your own emitter means you can determine speed with extremely high accuracy, which you don't get when you're just detecting EM waves scattering off the target from any old random source.

You have to send the radar ping to the target first though. It has to be emitted before it comes back.

 

[Dim Glownigger]

You are thinking of 3rd gen, like F-104. In recent years supermaneuverability became very imortant, partly because sukhois were performing cobra fairly effortlessly on every air show and partly because it greatly aids in dogfights or missile defence.

If you pull a cobra, or any of its other derivatives, in a combat situation you will die. This isn't ace combat, killing all of your airspeed only works to make you an easier target.

 

[just a banana]

Wagner night flag planting at Bakhmut city hall

https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/status/1642641355024355329

https://ghostarchive.org/archive/a3HYc

 

[OneTen]

Wasted 30 minutes unsuccessfully trying to find the source of the graphic on The Times website

Update on this.



The graphic was either never included in the web version of the article, invisible to archiving sites, or removed shortly after publishing.

I don't think folks here need the reminder, but this is why we always archive.