Ukrainian Defensive War against the Russian Invasion - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

Prigozhin claims Bakhmut is taken LOL

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EU 4 and Hearts of Iron rules strike again. "My Army is now in the middle of the province and its color has changed to mine! Therefore I own it all!

Paradox Interactive has alot to answer for. And not just for the endless DLC spam.
 
There's some significant amount of seething going on at the moment.
"They're basically huwhite ISIS!" - outraged pro-Russia anon
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inslavallah al azov and ibn na'to once again strike☝️

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Besides that this guy wasn't a journalist. He didn't make reports, he was shitposting about conducting a extermination of a whole nation. In Germoney such activity can get you into custody for several years.
Germany is a buck broken country of faggots who guzzle refugee cock.
 
What use would that money be when getting caught would mean that your life is basically over? Being anti-establishment in Russia comes with huge risks, if anyone does it then it's most likely on ideological basis, not for money.
I don't doubt they'd take any support they can get to further their goals though, because their options are very limited.

Земля железобетоном, залупа картавая.
Something I’m curious about if you don’t mind me asking. What turned you Ukraine’s side in this? If you’re living in Russia and your answer might put you under threat, feel free to not answer.
 
Germany is a buck broken country of faggots who guzzle refugee cock.
In most of civilized world are similar laws, in ruzzia also - they just ignore them when it coes to own shitposters.

Besides - it is funny to the extreme that a shitposter get funked into afterlife.

And not just for the endless DLC spam.
And I still remember HoI 1 and EU2, when DLC's was called "patch" and was offering free additional content of shitty quality.
 
In most of civilized world are similar laws, in ruzzia also - they just ignore them when it coes to own shitposters.

Besides - it is funny to the extreme that a shitposter get funked into afterlife.


And I still remember HoI 1 and EU2, when DLC's was called "patch" and was offering free additional content of shitty quality.
Most of the civilized work is similarly full of buck broken faggots. There's nothing to be proud of for making shitposting illegal

I also am at a loss how acting like the Nazi orcs treat reporters is somehow a desirable action.
 
There's nothing to be proud of for making shitposting illegal
Starting a retarded war also isn't, but look at that funked shitposter.

It also funny to the extreme that guy who vowed about killing milions get funked. And his fanboy base is seething about that - you just can't belive that someone can have same logic, but opposite view, aren't you?

I also am at a loss how acting like the Nazi orcs treat reporters is somehow a desirable action.
Well, ruzzkies are kiling thousands of innocent people and you are OK with that, so I'm curious why you are seething about this funked shitposter.

And yes, I had hope that some other idiots like WarGonzo or that DonbasWhore will get KIAded in funny ways (in minecraft). DonbasWhore I suggest should receive a poisoned dildo (in minecraft), and WarGonzo can be funked by a guy dressed as a cowboy (in minecraft).
 
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Most of the civilized work is similarly full of buck broken faggots. There's nothing to be proud of for making shitposting illegal

I also am at a loss how acting like the Nazi orcs treat reporters is somehow a desirable action.
UGH! tell me about it, anon!
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And I still remember HoI 1 and EU2, when DLC's was called "patch" and was offering free additional content of shitty quality.
yeah but if youre as eastern european as you claimed you wouldnt pay for any pardorthodox jew DLCs anyway
 
Well, ruzzkies are kiling thousands of innocent people and you are OK with that, so I'm curious why you are seething about this funked shitposter.
If killing reporters is shit the bad guys do, why are you cheering on "doing exactly what the bad guys do"?

Who said I was ok with the Russians? Their invasion is wrong and unjust. Like watching a crocodile eat a gazelle, shit happens despite how bad you feel about the gazelle.

I just don't have an unconditional belief in the Final Victory of Ukraine over Russia. If screaming Salami Ukrainis and the faggot NAFO memes are the loyalty test, I won't be able to pass it.

I don't think exposing NATO as a limp-dicked and devisive group, the depletion US defense capabilities, and eroding US economic power is worth Ukraine.
 
Who said I was ok with the Russians?
Well, I didn't see any your comments when you are so MATI on ruzzkie snownigga crimes. But you are MATIng to the extreme because a shitposter (not a journalist or reporter) was funked to the afterlife.

But probably you can point that you are equaly mad about ruzzkie and ukrainian war crimes, right? Or you can just see that starting a war by ruzzkie was disgusting and unjusted, right? No? So please, go to your copecage. You will be able to ignore how ruzzkie are kidnapping and abusing ukrainian childrens, bombing hospitals and so one in that place and be really MATI about one dead shitposter.
 
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What use would that money be when getting caught would mean that your life is basically over?
Two uses:
  1. Operations. Since I'm not in the propaganda business I don't know what all that entails, but I guess setting up phone/ISP accounts, buying web domains, paying writers and artists, video production equipment, etc.
  2. Agent support. It usually starts off as a small amount to cover some pressing need, then it's for their lifestyle, then it becomes money for the sake of acquiring money.
As for getting caught with money, agents have taken that risk for thousands of years. Sometimes they have an ready-made explanation--Judas was the treasurer after all, why shouldn't he have all that silver--other times they are less careful.
 
'We should kill all journalists and one whale'
'Why the hell we should kill a whale?!'
'I see killing journalists isn't a issue and we can agree that is a good idea'


Of course they do, but random fires and explosions are more common on their side of barricade.

Oh well, looks lie all that security measurments taken after 9/11 and war on terror (tm) just started to pay for themselves.
Doubt about that one. I mean the 9-11 security measures made it harder for the US to do anything and if anything I think the Russians probably are paying sabetours via crypto.
Dumb. Does CIA funnel money to anti-war groups in Russia? It's possible. If they managed to recruit an agent from one of those groups, would they use her talents and position to covertly promote America's interests, or would they send her to blow up a blogger?
More like some anonymous crypto and money transfers for made with gold, and they used a cell based system to take care of this.

There's some significant amount of seething going on at the moment.
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Awwwww did someone invade a country and rexoece massive blowback from that invasion. Awww poor wittle Russians you get a car bomb in your country decided to invade a sovereign nation state.
I would be more sympathetic but I guess the old saying goes. What goes around comes around.
EU 4 and Hearts of Iron rules strike again. "My Army is now in the middle of the province and its color has changed to mine! Therefore I own it all!

Paradox Interactive has alot to answer for. And not just for the endless DLC spam.
I mean the Ukranian military have essentially taken a page from the Germans in WW2. They've turned Bakhmut into a campaign that makes monte casino in Italy seem like a smashing victory for the allies. As long as they rotate their units and can maintain decent logistics slowly grinding the Russians excess gear is a good idea. It's not going to mean victory at Bakhmut and Bakhmut is now was a more valuable a rail hub to Ukraine then Russia.
If killing reporters is shit the bad guys do, why are you cheering on "doing exactly what the bad guys do"?

Who said I was ok with the Russians? Their invasion is wrong and unjust. Like watching a crocodile eat a gazelle, shit happens despite how bad you feel about the gazelle.

I just don't have an unconditional belief in the Final Victory of Ukraine over Russia. If screaming Salami Ukrainis and the faggot NAFO memes are the loyalty test, I won't be able to pass it.

I don't think exposing NATO as a limp-dicked and devisive group, the depletion US defense capabilities, and eroding US economic power is worth Ukraine.
I mean look at this point it's a brutal ugly war. And second Russia was never going to settle or sue for peace. Even if Zelinsky gave them what they wanted there would still have been cross border raids into Mariupol.
The western media lies whenever it feels like it.
The Russian media is almost incapable of not lying.

The western media when it's narrative backfires will sheepishly say well Kyle Rittenhouse is bad because of guns or the story changes.
When the russian media realizes they got something wrong they instead double down on the dumb conspiracy. This is why you have conspiracies on Russian media like 15% of Poland's military aged men have been killed off and Russians hold against the Nazi NATO horde. With a stunning victory at Bakhmut.

The one thing to ask yourself is what are Nato's strengths. When everyone in the west analyzes itself we over analyze our weaknesses to the point we forget the strengths. Ask yourself what is the strength of NATO, and the US in arms production.
 
If killing reporters is shit the bad guys do, why are you cheering on "doing exactly what the bad guys do"?
russia doesn't have journalists, and any legitimate journalist is either arrested or has fled.

the assassination, which we don't even know if it was coordinated by the SBU, was against a figure who advocated for genocide; honestly, he's probably a more legitimate target than personnel, considering he wasn't drafted or coerced.
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Something I’m curious about if you don’t mind me asking. What turned you Ukraine’s side in this? If you’re living in Russia and your answer might put you under threat, feel free to not answer.
I've grown to dislike Putin's regime and everything it represents over the years in general. Absolute corruption, greed, disregard for basic human rights and decency, cult of personality, worship of the state, hypocrisy and callousness of it all...
This regime encouraged and perpetuated all the worst aspects of Russian mentality, proliferating rot in order to control the nation. They dragged Russia into shit and robbed it of everything it could've been, something truly great. All this empty posturing is as far from greatness as you can possibly get, they made Russia into a fucking joke.

Ukraine is just another victim of this ugly regime. One I happen to have personal ties to. And they only did it because they thought Ukraine was defenseless, weak. Many Russians don't value freedom, they don't really know what it even means, it's hereditary at this point. And they've come to rob Ukrainians of theirs. They're spreading their rot to people trying to live without it.
All of which is wrong.

I don't put much stock in nationality at this point, considering that these days being true & honest Russian means swallowing Putin's dick whole along with all the gravy - I'm just not into that. I don't have unfounded loyalty to the regime that spent decades robbing us blind and turning the country into a goddamn prison, and thus no incentive to betray my principles, lie to myself for the sake of preserving purity of the idol that others worship. So I have no problem calling out Russia's actions for what they are.
I won't force myself to be proud of the country that represents everything I despise, instead of having it become something I can respect and love. Many would call me unpatriotic, but what's actually patriotic? Letting a bunch of subhuman faggots rape the nation into a dystopian parody of itself, or see it flourish in peace and prosperity?

Russia's invasion of Ukraine is based on revanchism, vanity and deep-rooted inferiority complex. It was by no means a matter of survival. And all the lies used to justify it is yet another reason I despise Russian establishment.

Most things I say here would have police all over my ass if I was to post it on runet, but luckily they don't read Kiwi Farms and generally simply don't speak English. Nor am I of any importance as I'm not an activist, since I don't have a death wish. I'm just a regular guy who wants to enjoy a peaceful life, and wishing the same for others, I'm in this place to vent because otherwise built-up frustration might drive me crazy.
I don't want to be in position to make the choice between the life I have, however flawed, and doing the right thing. But with every passing day it feels like the choice will be made for me, and I dread the day it happens.

Sorry for the incoherent wall of text, though I could've said a lot more. It's really late right now, so I hope it's sufficient.

Edit: In my self-righteous rant I forgot the most important thing. What could possibly be worth all this destruction and suffering? In my eyes there's simply no such thing.
But that goes without saying, right?
Two uses:
  1. Operations. Since I'm not in the propaganda business I don't know what all that entails, but I guess setting up phone/ISP accounts, buying web domains, paying writers and artists, video production equipment, etc.
  2. Agent support. It usually starts off as a small amount to cover some pressing need, then it's for their lifestyle, then it becomes money for the sake of acquiring money.
As for getting caught with money, agents have taken that risk for thousands of years. Sometimes they have an ready-made explanation--Judas was the treasurer after all, why shouldn't he have all that silver--other times they are less careful.
It's not so much about getting caught with money as getting caught being in opposition to the regime. That alone is enough for them to make your life a living hell.
 
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Not sure if this was posted, but a Ukrainian soldier was attacked by Ukrainian Orthodox Church - Moscow Patriarchate priests in Khmelnytskyi and has now held a Divine Liturgy in Ukrainian, which MP priests have said would displease God
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Now this might mean the church is now Kyiv Patriarchate, but perhaps the (former) Moscow Patriarchate church (they formally broke ties with Moscow at a synod but still uses Russian in the liturgy and follows the general dispositions of Moscow towards the Patriarch of Constantinople and others who condemned the invasion or supported or were neutral to the Kyiv Patriarchate) is just trimming as they are under major pressure.
 
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I've grown to dislike Putin's regime and everything it represents over the years in general. Absolute corruption, greed, disregard for basic human rights and decency, cult of personality, worship of the state, hypocrisy and callousness of it all...
This regime encouraged and perpetuated all the worst aspects of Russian mentality, proliferating rot in order to control the nation. They dragged Russia into shit and robbed it of everything it could've been, something truly great. All this empty posturing is as far from greatness as you can possibly get, they made Russia into a fucking joke
True. Even after the soviet Union collapsed the US and Europe looked over their shoulder at the Russian Bear. This war has shown absent nukes, Finland and Sweden can probably take the Russian Federation to the dance and have them pay for it at the end. Never mind what the USA or China could do.

Ukraine is just another victim of this ugly regime. One I happen to have personal ties to. And they only did it because they thought Ukraine was defenseless, weak. Many Russians don't value freedom, they don't really know what it even means, it's hereditary at this point. And they've come to rob Ukrainians of theirs. They're spreading their rot to people trying to live without it.
All of which is wrong.
That was actually something before the war started that was used as proof it couldn't happen. Russia invading Ukraine would be like the USA invading Canada. Two brother nations at war? When so many people have intermarried over the border and they are so closely tied economically? Inconceivable!

I don't put much stock in nationality at this point, considering that these days being true & honest Russian means swallowing Putin's dick whole along with all the gravy - I'm just not into that. I don't have unfounded loyalty to the regime that spent decades robbing us blind and turning the country into a goddamn prison, and thus no incentive to betray my principles, lie to myself for the sake of preserving purity of the idol that others worship. So I have no problem calling out Russia's actions for what they are.
Never give up the ship bro. The Captain may be a piece of shit, but the Ship can continue to sail long after he's given an unceremonious burial at sea. Russia does have more to offer the world then gas, poverty and misery. You just need leaders who want export the good and get rid of the bad.

I don't want to be in position to make the choice between the life I have, however flawed, and doing the right thing. But with every passing day it feels like the choice will be made for me, and I dread the day it happens.
You know, i've been listening to "March of the New Army" lately. It's an adaptation of a Ukrainian folk song from the 1920's revolt against Moscow, and basically turned into the Anthem of the Ukrainian Army. Normally I don't give much truck with overly nationalistic chest thumping, but the Ukrainians actually backed it up this past year. So its a real slapper. It includes the line "Crying has never given anyone freedom".

May as well post it again. I've noticed various videos posted ITT, but never with the proper translation at the bottom. This one is the best, and it was actually put out on youtube a few weeks after the war started.



Now this might mean the church is now Kyiv Patriarchate, but perhaps the (former) Moscow Patriarchate church (they formally broke ties with Moscow at a synod but still uses Russian in the liturgy and follows the general dispositions of Moscow towards the Patriarch of Constantinople and others who condemned the invasion or supported or were neutral to the Kyiv Patriarchate) is just trimming as they are under major pressure.
I expect the Senior Priests and lay clergy are under extreme pressure at this point to either fuck off, or swear fealty to the Metropolitan of Kyiv. Which means holding service in Ukrainian and kissing the ring. Quite literally in this case.
 
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