US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[BULLY HUNTER_78]

Nigger, you're implying radical action and if you're not willing to bite the bullet and do it, you shouldn't be pushing others to.

I think we’re still missing a few ingredients for a full revolution but we’re rapidly getting there. I think any pure grass-roots revolution requires three things:

1) A long-standing set of grievances held by the people against their government (COVID, voter fraud, anarcho-tyranny, etc.)
2) Significant everyday suffering felt by the common citizen
3) A figure or a common cause to rally around

While point 1 is definitely met, we don’t yet have enough of point 2 for the sheep to seriously consider violent action. I also don’t think we have a viable figurehead or cause to rally around. Trump is too old and too much of a boomer to fit the bill. The swamp is definitely working overtime to prevent a viable figurehead from materializing though - if they go full retard and assassinate Trump, turning him into a martyr may do the trick.

In addition, our CIA is infamous for instigating color revolutions across the globe. As US international influence wanes, there’s a chance Russia and China will consider turnabout to be fair play. I’m pretty sure Russia has already stated that they’ll support a Texan succession. I also think China is gearing up for a “special military operation” of their own in Taiwan - as our global holdings collapse, our adversaries become bolder in their meddling. Their meddling will begin to counter the FBI’s own domestic meddling and a dissident figure has more of a chance to rise.

 

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34 Felony counts and it sounds like it could be shit like "The bill was for 38,995.95, but Donald illegally put down $39,000 on his taxes."

The sad thing is, there's no way a NYC jury doesn't find him guilty on at least one charge.

And then, god only know what. DeSantis and the RINO machine seems to think it's time for Soy Based Imitation MAGA to preserve the status quo.

If the lesson the GOP doesn't take from this is that the second they get power again -- if they're ever allowed to have power again, which seems unlikely -- they must IMMEDIATELY go after Biden, Biden's family, Obama, and Clinton for whatever Felonies they can find, then we're truly lost. They must hit back as hard as they're struck, and the DNC / Soon-to-be-DSA just decided to attack their presumptive nominee and party leader with Trumped up fake charges specifically to disqualify him from running against the candidate they rigged an election to install.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

34 Felony counts and it sounds like it could be shit like "The bill was for 38,995.95, but Donald illegally put down $39,000 on his taxes."

The sad thing is, there's no way a NYC jury doesn't find him guilty on at least one charge.

And then, god only know what. DeSantis and the RINO machine seems to think it's time for Soy Based Imitation MAGA to preserve the status quo.

If the lesson the GOP doesn't take from this is that the second they get power again -- if they're ever allowed to have power again, which seems unlikely -- they must IMMEDIATELY go after Biden, Biden's family, Obama, and Clinton for whatever Felonies they can find, then we're truly lost. They must hit back as hard as they're struck, and the DNC / Soon-to-be-DSA just decided to attack their presumptive nominee and party leader with Trumped up fake charges specifically to disqualify him from running against the candidate they rigged an election to install.

Showing up for this thing was such a stupid move.

 

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Showing up for this thing was such a stupid move.

The alternative is to let them set the narrative that he's fighting them, running away, a coward, etc. Instead he shows up, forces them to play their full hand instead of leak it (itself a felony, as Trump has pointed out) selectively, then he gets to point out how fucking stupid the charges are and move onto the next stage -- campaigning as the victim/martyr/outsider/hero.

Remember, they don't hit you with 34 charges after 8 years of being the most investigated politician in American history if they actually have charges. It's going to be stupid bullshit and everyone knows it.

 

[Jaimas]

34 Felony counts and it sounds like it could be shit like "The bill was for 38,995.95, but Donald illegally put down $39,000 on his taxes."

The sad thing is, there's no way a NYC jury doesn't find him guilty on at least one charge.

And then, god only know what. DeSantis and the RINO machine seems to think it's time for Soy Based Imitation MAGA to preserve the status quo.

If the lesson the GOP doesn't take from this is that the second they get power again -- if they're ever allowed to have power again, which seems unlikely -- they must IMMEDIATELY go after Biden, Biden's family, Obama, and Clinton for whatever Felonies they can find, then we're truly lost. They must hit back as hard as they're struck, and the DNC / Soon-to-be-DSA just decided to attack their presumptive nominee and party leader with Trumped up fake charges specifically to disqualify him from running against the candidate they rigged an election to install.

Alvin Bragg is not a particularly smart or clever man. He has a history of not just fucking up, but fucking up hard, and the only one with a worse history of fucking up in NYC are the people above him. No matter how hard they try to railroad him, no matter how much they try to give him the Alex Jones treatment, they are not going to succeed. Trump can raise millions, mostly from new donors, in less than a day and a half off of just NYC trying to flex, he has access to literally some of the best legal muscle on the planet, he's a former sitting president with all that implies, and his opponents in NYC are some of the most incompetent motherfuckers to ever hold office.

The question is not if they will fuck up, it's at which point, how hard, and how hilariously the crazy orange diamond counters.

 

[Screamer_2]

The alternative is to let them set the narrative that he's fighting them, running away, a coward, etc. Instead he shows up, forces them to play their full hand instead of leak it (itself a felony, as Trump has pointed out) selectively, then he gets to point out how fucking stupid the charges are and move onto the next stage -- campaigning as the victim/martyr/outsider/hero.

Remember, they don't hit you with 34 charges after 8 years of being the most investigated politician in American history if they actually have charges. It's going to be stupid bullshit and everyone knows it.

But, "no one is above the law."

Usually followed by the clarification, "even if it's not much, he's gotten away with so many crimes..."

The same way the woke mind virus has infected people, there's a Trump mind virus. Trump derrangement is real. The fact so many people have it here, I can't imagine what it's like in the USA.

I always like to stump them with, "at least he didn't start any wars." Bring up things along those lines because it completely deflates them because the mind virus never accounted for this because it comes from the neo-con establishment.

 

[World Famous Quasi Payer]

What always gets me about the 2030 thing is that there's no obvious pressing thing that will happen by 2030 other than the death of gentocrats like pelosi and such. What's got them so scared?

Late, but I think a significant portion of their rush to the finish line is them buying their own bullshit. They can't envision a world were their wrong or even partly wrong. And when they get push back that actually succeeds in pushback (trump 2016), they panic. Their minds are mush, they just hide it better than Biden. Its a matter of "we have to cross the finish line now or those evil repuklicans will undo everything."

And to an extent their correct. An allegory would be a military operation. Massive amounts of planning go into any sizable action. Those at the top get bean counters to figure how long and how much their units can push before the stockpiles run out. There's a timetable that has to be met or else you're not gonna achieve x objective and the enemy gains the initiative for a counter offensive. You have to knock him out of the game or else he could knock you out.

Re: Trump new york case

All of this is nothing than a pretense to get trump in new york for them to kill him. The case is such a joke, new york doesn't even have jurisdiction. Their gonna whack Trump like they did Epstein. I hope not, but that's what all this looks like to me.

 

[verissimus]

Late, but I think a significant portion of their rush to the finish line is them buying their own bullshit. They can't envision a world were their wrong or even partly wrong. And when they get push back that actually succeeds in pushback (trump 2016), they panic. Their minds are mush, they just hide it better than Biden. Its a matter of "we have to cross the finish line now or those evil repuklicans will undo everything."

And to an extent their correct. An allegory would be a military operation. Massive amounts of planning go into any sizable action. Those at the top get bean counters to figure how long and how much their units can push before the stockpiles run out. There's a timetable that has to be met or else you're not gonna achieve x objective and the enemy gains the initiative for a counter offensive. You have to knock him out of the game or else he could knock you out.

Re: Trump new york case

All of this is nothing than a pretense to get trump in new york for them to kill him. The case is such a joke, new york doesn't even have jurisdiction. Their gonna whack Trump like they did Epstein. I hope not, but that's what all this looks like to me.

No, it's less about the kind of world they envision as opposed to the world they want. They simply don't want to share power.

 

[WhatIsThePunchline]

I don't think this will help his reelection.
It'll be like in the midterms, or in 2020.

People will think it will, just as they did the last two times, but they forget everyone are living in different realities at this point.

God, that's a nice outfit Hillary is rocking.

It's a suit and a shirt.

 

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[Vic Smackey]

People will think it will, just as they did the last two times, but they forget everyone are living in different realities at this point.

I've wanted to say this for a long time and figure now is a good time as any. We aren't living in different realities, if all information were to become available to all tomorrow there would still be this cold civil war. The problem is that a large chunk of the West has pretty much decided that the values that we held high and were largely responsible for making us so great are now defunct. Democrats know 2020 was fishy, they know this indictment is a political hit job and they knew that COVID wasn't that dangerous to the majority of the public. The problem isn't that we live in two different realities, the problem is that we have separated our fundamental values.

It's why we are headed for a world of pain and likely civil war/divorce. The two sides of that neo-marxist progressive/Neo Liberal and Conservative/ Classical liberal. One values forced consensus, equity and power. The other values liberty both political and individual, stability and the rule of law. These two values are inherently incompatible and cannot run simultaneously. The best play for the Republicans right now is to escalate symmetrically. They need to put Democrats in a position where they are forced to play their hand. If the Democrats really want a civil war then it was inevitable, if the Democrats are just pushing the boundaries then it will lead to de-escalation. The latter has a better than 50% chance of being the case.

A lot of people of aware of the Cuban missile crisis but fail to get it's real lesson. That is, sometimes you've got to push things to the brink for a longer, more stable peace to come about. It was the "closest" we've ever been to nuclear Armageddon and it led to the establishment of the famous red phone. That simple red phone provided a direct and immediate line between the Kremlin and White House it also represented a softer period in international relations known as Detente.

 

[Vesperus]

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Agreed, but calling Biden a leader is a bit of stretch. 1940's Europe would have gone a bit differently if Hitler had shuffled on to the Nuremberg podium and started rambling about icecream.

 

[SpergioLeonne]

Let’s just say hypothetically that Clancy was still alive and wrote a novel about a US President who was compromised by the CCP and secretly working to destabilize America in terms of military, economy and culture. He was doing it aggressively, but with at least a tiny bit of concern about getting the job done before being outed.

What would this hypothetical, fictional President’s action look like?

Military: botched Afghanistan withdrawal, sell off strategic petroleum reserve, promote trannies in the military, mandate clot shots then change mind but don’t take back anyone discharged over refusal to take it, expend munitions stockpiles sending them to Ukraine, sit back while Russians bullshit about hypersonic missiles then publicly announce our “failure” to make our own through stripping the budget

Economic: alienate the Saudis, declare war on oil while the majority of the world depends on it, refuse to permit drilling, constantly denounce oil companies for profiteering while ignoring the massive issue of pharmaceutical companies which have been handed mandates to clot shot everyone indefinitely, drive the death of the petrodollar, rack up insane new levels of deficit just to spend the money on UBI, Union payoffs, and perks for trannies, sabotage our own rail networks by putting a faggot flunky as transportation secretary, sit back as the LA port fails to process container shipping, etc etc

I don’t even want to talk about the culture, but now we have a national holiday for trannies. Regular Democrats started to balk, so trannies are the new red guard.

 

[verissimus]

Let’s just say hypothetically that Clancy was still alive and wrote a novel about a US President who was compromised by the CCP and secretly working to destabilize America in terms of military, economy and culture. He was doing it aggressively, but with at least a tiny bit of concern about getting the job done before being outed.

What would this hypothetical, fictional President’s action look like?

Whoever played the Manchurian candidate?

 

[ShitLurker]

Nah, even if by some miracle Trump wins in 2024 the second he tries to go after any of his opponents some judge in Hawaii will issue an injunction and conservatives will whine about double standards before shitting themselves and doing nothing.

This and

I really wish I had your optimism. If Trump somehow defeats the rigging, they'll just JFK him. They don't care, who is going to stop them?

This.

The biggest lesson he should have learned is that there is no law and no justice while the swamp is everywhere, only enemies. Best play involves speaking with the few non pozzed elements of military and law enforcement and do a very drawn out night of the long knives.

Problem with that is that it would instantly break the country in half, no matter how needed it is. But what is needed is decisive action, not a wishy washy committee. I don't think Trump has it in him to go that far though, but I can see him paving the way for someone willing.

Imagine you're four or five years old, and your parents take you to the doctor to get a surgery, they lie to you and say it's like getting your tonsils removed or getting a vaccine, then years later you find out you can't ever reproduce because your parents decided before you can even remember that you were getting a hysterectomy.

Oh no! The thing that never happens just keeps happening!!!

 

[General Emílio Médici]

The actions of Bragg feel like a True Believer drinking the kool-aid of the cult and the leaders not being able to hold them back. The people in charge created the beast of TDS and now it is out of their control, so they can't tell it to stop without getting fucked and are not forced to deal with it.

The fact there is a non-zero chance that Trump might get a Epstein treatment is terrifying. Not just because of the harm it would do to the resistance to globalism but also because it would ensure a civil war down the line.

The fact is the system is so rotten at this point I am not sure it even matters. They will rig 2024 just as hard as 2020 if not harder, and if they can't and we do defeat it the amount of bitching and straight up sabotage will make the 1st term look downright idylic. We have seen already how these people will do everything to keep power, they would not allow a Trump unburdened by the lack of worry about re-election to rule. They would find a way to remove him permanently.

 

[NeroRisotto]

So @Gehenna, how you feeling about the Wisconsin judicial election?

 

[Glowing In The Streets]

If the lesson the GOP doesn't take from this is that the second they get power again -- if they're ever allowed to have power again, which seems unlikely -- they must IMMEDIATELY go after Biden

theyll get power, so long as they play along. the current gop doesnt even try to impeach joe for shit and giggles.
its a big club, and you aint in it

 

[GunCar Gary]

So @Gehenna, how you feeling about the Wisconsin judicial election?

i'm not the person you asked, but imo Protasiewicz wins because Kelly is a weak candidate and the WI republicans have dragged their feet on resolving the abortion issue

 

[Lone Wandering Courier]

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Just a reminder the jewish woman running for WI supreme court give a nigger who raped his 14 yo cousin only a 14 month sentence.