US L.A. blasting classical music to drive unhoused people from subway station. It’s louder than officials claim

L.A. blasting classical music to drive unhoused people from subway station. It’s louder than officials claim
Los Angeles Times (archive.ph)
By Jessica Gelt
2023-04-04 23:05:15GMT

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A man sleeps on his belongings at the MacArthur station in Los Angeles on March 29, 2023. (Genaro Molina / Los Angeles Times)

A battle is being waged at the Westlake/MacArthur Park Metro station near downtown Los Angeles. The weapon of choice? Loud classical music.

The classical music — along with floodlights at either end of the station platform — are part of a pilot program that L.A. Metro operations and security, in cooperation with law enforcement, began implementing at the station in January. In an email to The Times, Metro said the music is a royalty-free playlist it compiled of piano sonatas, symphony orchestra pieces and concertos, including some by Vivaldi, Beethoven and Mozart.

L.A. Metro’s goal with the music and lights is to reduce crime and drive away unhoused people. But the use of music is divisive, with online commentators calling it an inhumane torture tactic. Critics also argue that it does nothing to address the root causes of the problems plaguing the station.

Music, classical and otherwise, has a long history of being used as a technique for discomfort and coercion. Heavy metal and hard rock drove strongman Manuel Noriega out of hiding at the Vatican’s embassy in Panama City in 1989. The music of Metallica was used as a torture device against Iraqi detainees during the War on Terror and is listed on the notorious “Guantanamo Bay” playlist.

“You’re trying to attract and make certain people feel comfortable based on the associations with classical music,” says musicologist Lily E. Hirsch, author of “Music in American Crime Prevention and Punishment.” “And you see that in fancy cheese shops that play classical music because they hope people will feel like they’re a part of some elite upscale world and then they’ll spend more money.”

That feeling is not intrinsic to classical music, says Hirsch, but when the music is being used as a tool to achieve a goal — driving certain people away while welcoming others, for example — those cultural associations are manipulated.

When classical music is used in dark and aggressive ways, it can also feel dystopian and creepy, notes Hirsch, not unlike the mood of “The Silence of the Lambs.” One Twitter user compared the music at MacArthur Park station to Stanley Kubrick’s psychological horror film “A Clockwork Orange.”

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Security officers keep an eye on things while a flood light shines at the far end of the Westlake/MacArthur Park Metro Station in Los Angeles. (Genaro Molina / Los Angeles Times)

Sound is experienced differently in different environments, and it can be louder depending on where it is being heard. Decibels are the measure of sound intensity. In confined spaces such as a subway station, which has hard edges, high ceilings and plenty of echo-y metal and concrete surfaces for the sound to bounce off of, decibel levels will be higher.

The music in the Westlake/MacArthur Park Metro is not being played at fancy-cheese-shop levels: It clocks in at an average of 83 decibels on a handheld decibel meter, although during some string flourishes it peaks at 90 dB (depending on where in the station you’re standing, and your proximity to the speakers). The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention website puts decibel levels between 80 and 85 on par with gas-powered lawnmowers and leaf blowers, and notes that damage to hearing is possible after two hours of exposure.

In an email to The Times, L.A. Metro spokesperson Dave Sotero wrote that “the music is not loud” at MacArthur Park, saying the compositions inside the station are being played at 72 dB.

A handheld meter registered certain musical phrases at 73 dB, but rarely — it was typically much louder than that. Sotero also said the music in the station is quieter than walking on the sidewalk outside the station, which he said exceeds 80 dB. A trip aboveground with a handheld dB meter found the ambient street noise — street vendors chatting, kids playing and laughing, buses whooshing by — hovering at an average of 72 dB.

There is a clear disconnect between what transit riders and the unhoused are experiencing in the subterranean confines of the station and L.A. Metro’s official line about the music’s volume.

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Commuters make their way through the MacArthur station in Los Angeles on March 29, 2023. (Genaro Molina / Los Angeles Times)

On a recent Monday afternoon in the station, commuters pace the sticky, trash-strewn platform, and a number of unhoused people rest on various concrete benches. A driving, high-energy piece of classical music blares, with ecstatic strings and many high notes punctuated by somewhat ominous low notes on keyboards. The four-minute composition “Immaterial,” by contemporary classical composer Adrián Berenguer, is being played on loop. (Berenguer did not respond to multiple requests for comment about this use of his music. It is unclear whether this song is royalty-free, as Metro stated.)

When two police officers approached two unhoused people and tried talking to them on Monday, one person cupped her hand to her ear. An officer leaned closer and shouted. The unhoused people nodded and began gathering their belongings to go, squinting in the bright spotlight.

It appears that the loud classical music is working at cross-purposes here, says Hirsch. She notes there is a history of classical music being used in public places, including town squares and outside various businesses, as a way to signal that certain people are wanted and others are unwanted.

“It’s like a bird marking its territory where you hear the signal and you go, ‘OK, this is not for me. This is for the older money crowd,’” she says. “And that technique seems to work. There are examples of teenagers leaving an area that’s playing classical music, not because they don’t like the music but because of the associations.” In fact, 7-Eleven has used classical music outside L.A.-area stores to deter loitering since 2019.

The problem with this approach, says Hirsch, “is you’re creating hierarchies of sound” by making it clear that an area belongs to certain privileged groups and not other people.

“And you’re not solving the problem,” she adds. “You’re just pushing the problem to another spot.”

The volume of the music at Westlake/MacArthur Park station makes it an outlier in this way, adds Hirsch, because the high decibel level intrinsically makes the station feel unwelcoming to anyone passing through. (One commuter said on Wednesday that the music was so loud that he might not continue riding Metro.)

L.A. Metro is undoubtedly in crisis. A recent Times story reported that 22 people have died of suspected overdoses on Metro buses and trains so far this year, and that serious crime — including rape, aggravated assault and robbery — was up 24% for 2022 compared with 2021. A Times 404 video noted that Metro spends between $150 million and $200 million annually on policing, but a majority of emergency calls weren’t answered by law enforcement assigned to Metro.

In an email to The Times, Sotero wrote that the music is being used “to restore safety at the transit station” and “as means to support an atmosphere appropriate for spending short periods of time for transit customers who wait an average of 5 to 10 minutes for the next train to arrive.” The transit authority says the strategy has resulted in an “improvement in public safety,” citing a “75 percent reduction in calls for emergency service, an over 50 percent reduction in vandalism, graffiti and cleanups, and a nearly 20 percent drop in crime.”

Los Angeles County Supervisor Hilda Solis, who is also a Metro board member, issued a statement to The Times noting that she is working with the organization to introduce “care first” strategies to the station and plaza, and that she supports piloting safety interventions that “introduce alternatives to deploying additional armed law enforcement on the system.”

Yet the current alternative of elevated volume, coupled with repetition, is a way that music has been used as torture throughout history, says Hirsch. Constant exposure to loud music can disrupt sleep and thought and eventually make people lose their connection to themselves. In the 30 minutes a reporter spent in the station this week, the same piece of music was on loop — the same music was again playing on Wednesday when a Times photographer visited the station.

Isis Soto, an unhoused woman sitting in the station on a recent Wednesday, said she didn’t mind the loud orchestras and strings. “I enjoy classical music,” she says. “It wouldn’t keep me out. It will help keep me down here longer.”
 
I mean honestly, it does sound like a fucking headache. I don’t care how nice the music is, I don’t want to hear it echoing around at >80Db while I’m standing there smelling piss and contemplating suicide because I live in LA.

Then again, who is trying to sleep down there right now? For warmth? It’s fucking california.
 
While it is tragic to see people down on their luck, the hobos you see in that park as well as the roamers who beg for money so they can get drugs stopped being people. Commiefornia for all its faults actually has a good program to get hobos off the street and back into the working world. It sucks, but its better than living in absolute squalor. And the bums that cause shit are exactly like niggers just without houses. They get gibs, do drugs, harass people for more gibs and the cycle repeats. Sometimes with actually attacking people on the menu.

I wonder if you can attract crime to an area by playing really loud and obnoxious rap/hip-hop 24/7.
Tragically, yes. I've seen it happen. A mob of niggers and hood rats will congregate to some drugged up boom box nog or spic blasting ghetto tracks. Its part of the reason why the trains are concentrations of dregs.
 
WTF is an "unhoused person"?

Do they mean homeless bums? Or is this some new group of victims I missed the announcement of?
Phil (ADF) had a "Houseless" Saga.
He refused to say he was homeless.

People with IQ's on the same level as that potato, decided that "Homeless" was both a stigma word and untrue - they weren't homeless, they were just without a permanent address.

The alternative terms are "underhoused", "person affected by houselessness", "unsheltered" in a lot of style guides I've seen.
 
Critics also argue that it does nothing to address the root causes of the problems plaguing the station.
What is LA Metro supposed to do to "address the root cause of the problems"? Build homeless shelters? Give cash to all the homeless in the county?

Quite a few unhoused individuals won't go to a shelter or even a free permanent house because they "like the freedom." They'll sleep in the goddamn train station anyway.

https://www.opb.org/article/2022/04...experiencing-homelessness-in-portland-oregon/

They think that being homeless is a big joke or something like that but it’s not. For some of us, it’s a way of life because we don’t want to live under the thumb of the government.”

St. Peter said that he’s spent time in jail and, because of that, an apartment with four walls feels too constricting.

His fiancée, Amber Watier, was walking along the road behind him. She said she grew up in “deep Gresham” and spent time in foster care before her mom got custody of her and her siblings again. She described it as “a really easy childhood.” Now, Watier is homeless. She says it’s been that way since she was 15 or 16, when she chose to run away from a foster home.
“I don’t really stay in one in particular spot,” she said when asked where she lives. “Wherever I decide to lay my head at night is where I call home that day.”

Watier said she is addicted to meth and opiates.

“Personally, my habits are not as detrimental as some other addictions can be, like alcohol,” she said. “I’m open about my addictions. It keeps me out of trouble.”

You can't help people that do not want help. There is no solution for this, no amount of "outreach", "more beds", "needle exchanges", "counseling", or "mo money for dem programs" will fix this.

Just get. Them. Away. From. Me.
 
Commiefornia for all its faults actually has a good program to get hobos off the street and back into the working world
Since when? The program can't be that great if the results are more homeless addicts and schizophrenics.
What is LA Metro supposed to do to "address the root cause of the problems"? Build homeless shelters? Give cash to all the homeless in the county?
Michael Shellenberger has some great ideas backed up by data from other countries. His unsuccessful recent run for California governor has forced the presumptive future presidential candidate (LMAO) and current government Gavin Newsom to adopt some of his ideas. Not enough of them, sadly.
 
Sure but hearing damage is cumulative. Also, where the fuck are homeless people supposed to sleep? Yeah bums are annoying and destructive, but I legitimately have no idea where they're supposed to sleep if the city doesn't want them in public property.
In hell.

Honestly, the only effective, permanent solution is to just purge them all. You're never going to turn them into functional human beings, and their numbers just grow continually.
 
Me when some swarthy hobo tries to rest near my property
^ patrician taste
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Imagine using public transportation, lmao
Carjacking is a thing, you know. It's not public transportation, it's (broadly speaking) niggers.

Decades ago, the then-mayor of Moscow (Russia), Yuri Luzhkov, decided to plant flowers in the city (and embezzle money). When he was told they'd be stolen, he said, "we'll plant more". Luzhkov has been dead for three years and hasn't been mayor for over ten, but each year, Moscow is full of flowers.

Shopping malls in Moscow are required to have free restrooms. Where cops have a mandate to remove trash, the restrooms are clean, even in migrant and other poorfag districts. Where they do not, the restrooms are paid. Restrooms in McDonaldses (now Tochkas) have been famously free and clean -- but not in some more expensive hipster cafes, which clearly do not have an understanding with the cops.

Subways in the 90s used to be hobo-infested pozholes. On suburban trains, you couldn't walk from car to car because people would shit in between. Again, the respective administrations started cleaning it all up, and it worked. (Western NGOs demanded for hobos to be let back into the subway for warmth and were ignored.) This is a subway corridor in the new poorfag bughive annex district of Nekrasovka. It's always this clean:
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Degeneracy is a solvable problem.
 
In hell.

Honestly, the only effective, permanent solution is to just purge them all. You're never going to turn them into functional human beings, and their numbers just grow continually.
Listen, I know that, you know that, but the population at large is never going to greenlight the wholesale uh, "gentrification" of America's streets. Ergo, we're going to need something that isn't this limbo where we pretend we're actually not all full of contempt for these degens while just pushing them around and accomplishing actually nothing. The current "policy" is just allowing a bunch of drug addicts to harass normal folks and leave their paraphernalia everywhere.
 
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