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So what are the end results of the judge election in Wisconson? I’m assuming any electoral map that doesn’t massively favor dems will get thrown out and any attempts to look in into fuckery will get canned on the spot.
Pretty much. It also spells bad omen for the 2024 election. Republicans aren't likely to do very well in Wisconsin given the total smackdown Kelly got tonight. Shit, even Kenosha swung for the dem this time. If that's fraud that's unreal amounts of fraud.

This is just the Republican base meeting its breaking point I think. A mixture of disillusionment and demographics are destiny has finally taken its toll. The demographic issue can be offset by messaging and empowering the base, but the GOP threw the fucking election. Nothing was done on any of the big issues. Didn't even try. The Democrat candidate dwarfed Kelly in terms of campaign funds. Kelly got tossed scraps by the GOP. They phoned this one, like they always do. The GOP will be the party of tax cuts and warmongering or it won't exist at all. They fucking hate us.
 
So what are the end results of the judge election in Wisconson? I’m assuming any electoral map that doesn’t massively favor dems will get thrown out and any attempts to look in into fuckery will get canned on the spot.

JANET PROTASIEWICZ: 653,607 votes (55.8%)
DANIEL KELLY: 518,701 votes (44.2%)
TOTAL VOTES: 1,172,308
PERCENTAGE OF VOTES IN: 65%+

Wisconsin and especially Chicago went hard, hard left.
 
Pretty much. It also spells bad omen for the 2024 election. Republicans aren't likely to do very well in Wisconsin given the total smackdown Kelly got tonight. Shit, even Kenosha swung for the dem this time. If that's fraud that's unreal amounts of fraud.

This is just the Republican base meeting its breaking point I think. A mixture of disillusionment and demographics are destiny has finally taken its toll. The demographic issue can be offset by messaging and empowering the base, but the GOP threw the fucking election. Nothing was done on any of the big issues. Didn't even try. The Democrat candidate dwarfed Kelly in terms of campaign funds. Kelly got tossed scraps by the GOP. They phoned this one, like they always do. The GOP will be the party of tax cuts and warmongering or it won't exist at all. They fucking hate us.

As I mentioned before, Democrats have been dominant in *Low Turnout* elections for years at this point. This boils down to the following facts

1. In the Trump Era, Republicans must rely on decent turnout from white working class / noncollege white voters. Compared to white college ed voters, these voters have never given a damn in the entirety of American history about elections aside from Presidential ones every four years. They didn't care about the midterm elections of 2010 and 2014, Republicans only did well in those because in those years the liberals didn't have the refined turnout apparatuses they do now (2014 notably was the lowest midterm turnout in decades). They didn't care about the 2018 midterms, and they didn't care about 2022 despite the economic circumstances that were hurting them.

2. White college ed libs have made voting into a religious practice. They're on social media talking about politics on a regular basis. In contrast, white noncollege voters don't think about politics as much ('normie' attitude). This means that in elections where turnout is low, white college ed lib fanatics make up a greater share of the electorate.

Back in the 80s,90s, 2000s, Christian fundies were pretty politically active compared to the rest of the population, which is why school board elections (lower turnout) were won by them frequently even when much of the population wasn't as hardcore.

Low turnout elections are decided by the obsessive, weird, frothing at the mouth voters. Normies don't turn out for them. In this era, the Left benefits from the fact that they do better with the obsessive crowd.

3. The GOP doesn't care about turning out noncollege white normies. They don't care about creating efficient voter turnout ops. They care much, much, more about appeasing their donors than they do about being as effective at turning out votes as Democrats are. Say what you will about Democrat lunacy, they've done a lot of work building up infrastructure, networks, techniques, etc when it comes to turning out voters. For instance apparently they had fliers all over the place in some Wisconsin universities telling people to vote Protasiewicz because of abortion.

Thankfully all this implies that in 2024, when the electorate will be more comprised of normies, and given the fact that Trump is the highest performer with noncollege whites, our chances will be much better. It'll simply be a matter of also applying counter-fortification tactics.
 
Say what you will about Democrat lunacy,

That's the thing though, to create Republican lunacy, you'd need Extreme Nationalism or Extreme Religious Nuts. And the FBI and NSA and Antifa are working around the clock to find and quash that even before it even appears. They even arrest people praying in front of abortion clinics. Just so you get the message.

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And if you think me comparing Democrats to Religious Nuts or Extremists. Then you just have to check the news. And watch who is teaching the kids.

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You guys have literally done nothing but bitch, piss, and moan and you expect voter turnout to be good? lmao.

The vast majority of Wisconsin voters aren't reading the Articles & News section of Kiwifarms.

If you're talking about right-wingers in general, then bitching pissing and moaning is actually helpful for people to think about turning out to vote. But the thing about elections is that they're heavily dependent on how efficient a political machine is, moreso than people being self-motivated enough to show up on their own initiative.
 
Bragg the Fag is basically saying Trump conducted business like normal business do in New York, but is acting like this has never been done before by anyone.

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Even if these were real crimes, they couldn't possibly pin it on him because he wasn't even involved.

That is how hard they're grasping at straws.
 
Even if these were real crimes, they couldn't possibly pin it on him because he wasn't even involved.

That is how hard they're grasping at straws.

It looks like to me, some people seem to think they are still operating under the rules. They were able to convince a NY Jury of an indictment over virtually nothing. The Judge didn't look at the indictment and throw it out immediately. So you have to assume now, the US is operating under Kangaroo Court proceedings. The US is now, by definition of the term, not hyperbole, a Banana Republic. Officially. Publicly. Like, on the books now.

I know everyone is sitting home eating popcorn and going "Well it was always corrupt". This is basically announcing to the world, overtly, politically, to other World Leaders, who can now point to it as public record.

That's why some people think this is a giant deal.
 
Personally I suspect this case serves three purposes: First and foremost, to further smear Trump's brand- a mere drop in the bucket compared to what the establishment has been doing since 2015, but done by true believers that genuinely believe "We'll get him this time!". Secondly, as a grift- there are no doubt dozens of lefty activists and the like attempting to cash in on this directly or use it for clout in some way, to say nothing of the politicians that will run on the aforementioned "we'll get him next time" trick they do with every other unachievable thing they promise to their constituency. Thirdly, and I believe this has been mentioned previously in the thread, to pass off the hot potato/time bomb economy to blow up in Trump's face so they can sperg about how "ORANGE MAN DID THIS!" etc.
Makes me wonder why you would even vote for Democrats when they can't even put Trump in jail despite it being priority #1. How can you trust them to get anything else done when they can't even jail-&-Epstein your most hated political opponent?
 
Makes me wonder why you would even vote for Democrats when they can't even put Trump in jail despite it being priority #1. How can you trust them to get anything else done when they can't even jail-&-Epstein your most hated political opponent?

I think they know deep down theres nothing really corrupt about Trump. It's just that he represents their ideological opposite. So he has to be destroyed, publicly humiliated, to show his supporters that they can't stop the "Progressivism" coming.

As one lefty poster told me:

Why would they address the right-wing's arguments? They're the ones with real power
 
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I think they know deep down theres nothing really corrupt about Trump. It's just that he represents their ideological opposite.
Nah, in the mind of the establishment; Trump is corruption. He represents the will and word of the people, the poors, an insider that is resistant to their usual assimilation bestial immunity response nature of the swamp. He's a pathogen, a virus that will never truly go away and only mutate, into what? Who knows and it is that unknown in combination with other symptoms of infection that makes the infected squirm.
 
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