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[DavidS877]

You also take another 15 minutes in a chemical plant to reach your work place. And in a refinery or steel mill this may take you the better part of half an hour. Urbanist bugmen don't have a clue how large these pieces of real estate are, but they still have to open their worthless mouths about it all.

India tried the 15 minute city outside a chemical plant, that didn't go so well. There's a good reason you don't mix industrial and residential areas.

 

[Curzon Dax-sama]

India tried the 15 minute city outside a chemical plant, that didn't go so well. There's a good reason you don't mix industrial and residential areas.

In the urbanist bugman's live, things like noise, pollution or aesthetics don't exist. They will place a dysfunctional steel mill in your backyard if it means they can have their walkable 15 minute shithole.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

In the urbanist bugman's live, things like noise, pollution or aesthetics don't exist. They will place a dysfunctional steel mill in your backyard if it means they can have their walkable 15 minute shithole.

Then you can larp as John Fetterman Former Mayor of the Poorest Town in Pannsylvania.

I still don't get why he thought that was something to brag about? I'm doing a terrible job as mayor.

The big fat guy who was Mayor of East Palestine is 1000x the man that John Fetterman is.

 

[Curzon Dax-sama]

Then you can larp as John Fetterman Former Mayor of the Poorest Town in Pannsylvania.

I still don't get why he thought that was something to brag about? I'm doing a terrible job as mayor.

The big fat guy who was Mayor of East Palestine is 1000x the man that John Fetterman is.

It's quite easy to do a better job than a stroked out Gruglord. The mayor of my hometown quite recently helped saving roughly 300 jobs in the local auto parts plant and secured a deal for 200 jobs at the same place for the EV-line. Didn't expect that from a literal grey suit.

 

[SwanSwanson]

The average "urbanist" cannot comprehend the fact the shit they want only works in a very high trust society. They don't even know what that is. They have no concept of why niggers and white trash would ruin all this shit in seconds, they cannot handle the idea of others not playing along to their little utopian plan. You can tell from how they NEVER mention urban decay, crime and poverty affecting any of their ideas. They just do not understand this shit at all.

I lived in Syria when I was a kid and Syria being one of the oldest civilizations in the world had no choice but to be built in the framework of foot traffic and it works just fine, my family didn't live in fear of getting robbed or assaulted. Society shouldn't conform to the neurosis of elitist rich normies. This is America, buy a gun.

 

[Markass the Worst]

I lived in Syria when I was a kid and Syria being one of the oldest civilizations in the world had no choice but to be built in the framework of foot traffic and it works just fine, my family didn't live in fear of getting robbed or assaulted. Society shouldn't conform to the neurosis of elitist rich normies. This is America, buy a gun.

If you buy a gun and defend yourself from an attempt on your life, your ass will be dragged through the courts to say nothing of the court of public opinion. See what happened to Kyle Rittenhouse, who was ultimately acquitted but is hated and denigrated as just a racist white kid wanting to kill the blax.

I'd rather have a gun than not, but it's not a workable long-term solution to the nigger problem.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

India tried the 15 minute city outside a chemical plant, that didn't go so well. There's a good reason you don't mix industrial and residential areas.

Third-world countries are the king of "build anything, wherever, whatever" and then get surprised when disaster strikes. Rana Plaza's tenth anniversary is coming up this month and was basically a lesson in what not to do with a building, with some four floors of garment factories (in Bangladesh) built on top of an existing two-story building with no permits or engineering. Despite massive cracks appearing in the building (despite a television crew covering it), the owner insisted the building was totally safe and workers should report to work the next day.

The next day the building collapsed and over 1,000 people perished in the disaster...and only in 2022 are they finally getting around with charging him with murder.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

If you buy a gun and defend yourself from an attempt on your life, your ass will be dragged through the courts to say nothing of the court of public opinion. See what happened to Kyle Rittenhouse, who was ultimately acquitted but is hated and denigrated as just a racist white kid wanting to kill the blax.

I'd rather have a gun than not, but it's not a workable long-term solution to the nigger problem.

The NRA and gunsoomer faggots won't even defend you as they only defend your right to acquire guns as Toys and collectibles. Don't you dare use one on a Spic or a Nigger.

Even if a Beaner kills a nigger they try to paint it as a "White Hispanic" like George Zimmerman.

 

[JJLiautaud]

Because I read this thread this shit got pushed into my feed have fun.

 

[WelperHelper99]

I'm almost surprised it's that low. Out in the sticks it seems like it should be 50%. Truck from the distribution warehouse comes to our local grocery store, goes back empty. Log truck comes to the local mill, goes back empty. Woodchip hauling truck goes from the lumber mill to the paper mill, comes back empty. UPS long haul comes from the big city, goes back mostly empty. Seems like the only ones not empty are the long haul stuff that they can take different cargo between large cities.

Oops, I hope I didn't just prove their point that the rural areas are a drain on society. Hope they don't need any lumber or paper in the city.

Having worked a bit in a warehouse for a time, usually you'll load up broken pallets onto a now empty truck, hense that lower 35% number. But yes, you're pretty well right. Long haul is what stays loaded the most because they're carrying either bulk goods, or have a refrigerated trailer to keep things cold, unlike the smaller 10 ton trucks in the inner cities. That train isn't delivering to every restaurant in a small town, a truck is because putting a rail out there is stupid expensive.

 

[talk talk talk]

Having worked a bit in a warehouse for a time, usually you'll load up broken pallets onto a now empty truck, hense that lower 35% number. But yes, you're pretty well right. Long haul is what stays loaded the most because they're carrying either bulk goods, or have a refrigerated trailer to keep things cold, unlike the smaller 10 ton trucks in the inner cities. That train isn't delivering to every restaurant in a small town, a truck is because putting a rail out there is stupid expensive.

But you can use a cargo bike for that!!11!!! REEEEEEEEE!

 

[WelperHelper99]

But you can use a cargo bike for that!!11!!! REEEEEEEEE!

That's either a powerful E bike that can tow a pallet or you're making a lot of smaller trips, which is gonna piss off everyone at said warehouse because they're gonna load that shit onto pallets to move it around efficiently. Hell there's even electric forklifts for small warehouses, which is nice because no fumes, though bigger stuff they break out propane, which won't smog you out.

 

[Curzon Dax-sama]

But you can use a cargo bike for that!!11!!! REEEEEEEEE!

Oh, I wanna see the bugmen haul their plastic toys in bulk from my warehouse to the place they live, while I sit in my forklift and laugh at them with the boys over the radio.

 

[quaawaa]

Handyman carries ladders on a cargo bike:

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[DeadwastePrime]

Handyman carries ladders on a cargo bike:
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honestly this is pretty based

 

[WelperHelper99]

Oh, I wanna see the bugmen haul their plastic toys in bulk from my warehouse to the place they live, while I sit in my forklift and laugh at them with the boys over the radio.

That's one thing they don't get, warehouses have gotten so efficient because of specialized cars like forklifts and pallets. It's called logistics. It's a lot better than shoving everything on shelves and hoping it doesn't get mixed up, it's a lot harder to do thar with a big ass pallet.

Handyman carries ladders on a cargo bike:
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Foolish. He had a good truck that I would kill for, then gives it up for a E-bike... that goes 40 miles. Reduced load and range. Pretty retarded.

 

[LaxerBRO]

Oh, I wanna see the bugmen haul their plastic toys in bulk from my warehouse to the place they live, while I sit in my forklift and laugh at them with the boys over the radio.

The cargo bike plan would need 2× to 3× more delivery people than are currently employed due to limited cargo capacity of electric cargo bikes. Then you will need to factor in pure physical exhaustion due to temperature extremes of hot / cold. They could increase the number of distribution centers but that would require more semi / heavy truck transport.

My prediction is that the cargo bike delivery model will fail with timely deliveries and they will just cope by suggesting that we settle with once a week deliveries or something. Typically, this is their go to when they realize all their pipe dreams can't beat the current more popular system in place. The problem with this type of thinking is that eventually you degrade your standard of living to below what your grandparents experienced during WWII.

Now, I don't think this pertains to the vast majority of NJB people but I suspect at least a few of the loudest advocates are communists that know their "economic" system cannot beat capitalism and are using ecology / urbanism as a way to acclimatize the population into the misery of communism.

 

[quaawaa]

My prediction is that the cargo bike delivery model will fail with timely deliveries and they will just cope by suggesting that we settle with once a week deliveries or something.

I don’t live in a country that does bike postal delivery so I can‘t confirm, but it’s my understanding that bike couriers only deliver letters and very small packages; regular packages are still delivered by van due to size and weight constraints. If they cared about being environmentally friendly, they’d advocate for getting rid of the bikes and replacing them with email.

 

[LaxerBRO]

I don’t live in a country that does bike postal delivery so I can‘t confirm, but it’s my understanding that bike couriers only deliver letters and very small packages; regular packages are still delivered by van due to size and weight constraints. If they cared about being environmentally friendly, they’d advocate for getting rid of the bikes and replacing them with email.

I meant stuff like this:

This shit only works in very select environments.

 

[DumbDude43]

I don’t live in a country that does bike postal delivery so I can‘t confirm, but it’s my understanding that bike couriers only deliver letters and very small packages; regular packages are still delivered by van due to size and weight constraints. If they cared about being environmentally friendly, they’d advocate for getting rid of the bikes and replacing them with email.

email or fax (lol boomer tech)

and yeah, bikes are not viable for package delivery. the trucks that actual delivery drivers use aren't just for fun, they use them because they have hundreds of packages to deliver, trying to fit that on a bike is just straight up impossible, the weight and volume is just way too large.

I meant stuff like this:
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This shit only works in very select environments.

that fits like a tenth of the cargo that you'd get in a standard delivery truck, at most. also slow as balls, and the driver will want to kill himself when bad weather happens