Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

[SIMIΔN]

Try dressing it up in stages? "You should work on your autism first" or whatever. Basically, try to get the person to get help with real problems as much as you can, and don't help her drink the koolaid.

Yes, show her that she can improve what she can control.

To be fair, lesbians are twice as likely to experience domestic abuse as heterosexual women and, iirc, four times as likely as gay men, so it shouldn't be too much of a surprise that they abuse their kids at an elevated rate, too

It wouldn't surprise me if they pushed their resentment towards men onto their son. Though anacdotally, the only Lesbian couple I knew tried to give their son the happiest life possible, as their own childhood wasn't so great (one grew up in an ultra homophobic country).

I don't know if the abusers in those relationships are women though. I think sometimes it's from a previous straight relationship with a man before they came out.

I think the survey was based on their current relationship. I wouldn't be surprised if the actual rate is higher, as some politcally minded same-sex attracted women might not want to "increase stigma".

 

[NoReturn]

CanineHybrid (Riley) made really good looking Pokemon costumes,

VerdantSculpts (Emily) made beautiful vases and pots for plants in the shapes of dragons and other things,

Oh nooo

iguanamouth (Lauren) was really funny (to me at least) and had a unique art style that reminded me of the illustrator for Roald Dahl's books,

Naomi Romero has worked for big name companies like DreamWorks and has designed a very cute and successful line of merch,

and Violaine Briat is a comic artist and graduate of Gobelins l'école de l'image who once sent little postcards and stickers of her characters to anyone who sent their address to her through the ask function on Tumblr (I still have them somewhere, too).

 

[BlaireWhitesBottom2]

Sigh..

It's a bit late to document my entire situation, but I suppose it's finally over for me and my FtM ex. I was trooning out myself when I met her so it didn't seem like a big deal. Obviously I've changed greatly over the last two years. I felt a little bad for leading her on for so long, but I love her a lot and it hurts to see her go (and on the shallower side, she's fantastically hot as a woman). I could still keep her as a fuckbuddy, but I reckon the T will turn me off of her soon enough anyway. I still hope she gives up this path in life before she tops herself over it, for her own benefit at the very least. She comes to me sobbing saying that she feels like nobody will love her when she poons and I haven't the heart to tell her that's exactly her current situation.
It's sad too that you can see transparently that her choice to transition is a result of trauma. She's so afraid of being a woman.
I pray for her.

time out time out.... you were a man becoming a chick and you were dating a chick becoming a man?

 

[glass_houses]

time out time out.... you were a man becoming a chick and you were dating a chick becoming a man?

There's a lot of that going around these days, it would appear.

 

[Leakage Current]

time out time out.... you were a man becoming a chick and you were dating a chick becoming a man?

It's pretty common. After all, most humans are still straight. And by dating another troon you have a likeminded person who won't be turned off by... everything surrounding that.

 

[NoddingOut]

I am not disappoint!

What a weirdly inspiring tale.

You should do a series of SAVED BY THE COOM posts.

“SISSYPORN SET ME STRAIGHT!”
‘From coom brained redditor to NO-FAP-Father of two!’

As told to Varsha Nagini

What's interesting is that mtf are destroyed by the coom. I'll save this post to edit In my own story. It involves my girlfriends little sister getting groomed by grown ass troons on discord. I am so happy I informed them of the danger as I saw the first warning signs with a name change to something "eccentric". At least her grown sister could get into the discord server and monitor the situation. I know those pedos ask for "progress pics", they even convinced her to tell a school she was being abused when I know that isn't happening. These are sick people and very much groomers.

 

[BlaireWhitesBottom2]

There's a lot of that going around these days, it would appear.

seahorsing ass niggas

 

[Haesindang Park]

So, a few of my friends transitioned and cut off their former friends, including myself. We haven't spoke for a long time, but I did not want to bother them. Seeing this sudden surge of transgenders, a friend of mine told me that transgenders still desire to be treated like people except if they befriend you, help them live their best lives. When I asked him about that, he mentioned the high suicide rates from transgenders and that these "gender affirming" procedures are permanent. Seeing that we have a mental health crisis in America, there's a lot of bad scenarios going through my mind with these transgenders. Note that many of them don't live long lives for many obvious reasons. Transgenders like to portray themselves as happily unique but in reality, they're hiding something really dark. As one who is involved in the healthcare industry, I wonder if most of my working life will be spent in darkness with all these troons. I also looked up phalloplasty and metoidioplasty because I've never heard of this before and now I am wondering if we are just allowing unethical human experimentation to happen before us. No, I don't do clinical work thank goodness but still, the thought of this terrifies me.

 

[rotpocket]

Losing one of my good friends to trans shit right now, feels bad man. She's someone I met online a few years ago and we've chatted nearly every day for the last 3ish years, she's a few years younger than me so kinda saw her like a little sister. Helped her with learning to draw better, introduced her to old internet things, grew really fond of her- she's a bit of a spazz but it was nice to have such an upbeat friend.

About a year ago she got obsessed with some video game and met new friends through it. About six months ago came out as FtM- I was hoping it was a phase. First she started talking more about porn which was ech to me but whatever, then it was expressing she can't stand her period - relatable so okay, and now she's started ramping it up. Has started talking about having a penis, sharing disgusting porn, keeps bringing up shotacon, talkin about cutting her tits off- it's all going downhill so fast. Been distancing myself. Suicide talk every couple days.

I'm tired boss.

 

[Terffals]

I lost another friend to handmaiden shit. Losing friendships to trooning out is bad enough, but when they’re just regular women who are brainwashed by the APGs is so fucking fucked up.

I lost a ten year friendship because she wants me to just to shut up and sit down and let the men in dresses ruin everything.

She “can’t handle” when I bring up terfy shit because she “just disagrees” with my viewpoint.

This is a fucking pattern. They’re fucking sticking their fingers in their ears because they don’t want their boring NPC autopilot lives disrupted by reality.

I’m definitely MATI at this point, she was a very close friend and I’m crying over her right now but this isn’t something I’m going to change my mind about and I’m not going to continue a relationship with anyone I have to tiptoe around and lie about biology to. God.

 

[WilhelmTheThird]

My sister might be in the process of trooning out after dropping out of college, her grades were fine, she just stopped attending
First she cut her hair, then got piercings and a nose ring
She also said she basically wants to become David Bowie
I'm 100% certain her lesbian childhood friend is grooming her into this, but because shes in a different city its impossible to intervene
Its absurd, like watching a dead family member walk around but knowing its not them

 

[Aunt Carol]

About a year ago she got obsessed with some video game and met new friends through it. About six months ago came out as FtM- I was hoping it was a phase.

This is such a common experience; she found a new group to belong to, and got inducted. When I was seeing this happen, it was mostly Homestuck.

Has started talking about having a penis, sharing disgusting porn, keeps bringing up shotacon, talkin about cutting her tits off- it's all going downhill so fast. Been distancing myself. Suicide talk every couple days.

You're losing her anyway, so you can be honest. Don't use her words for it; call it "underage porn" and tell her that's a hard boundary for you; does she think using a Japanese term as a euphemism makes it less creepy?

I've lost online friends this slow, painful way, and in retrospect I wish I'd backed out sooner. You're being used as an emotional Fleshlight.

If I could go back in time, I'd tell myself to stand up for myself and speak up. It doesn't have to be a confrontation about being trans, just about how you can't handle being used for "traumadumping."

Spoiler: long boring story about online pooner fren

The time I actually implemented this was in a nonpracticing FtM (ttly not because of childhood abuse) who would talk about her latest health concern, refuse to do anything, declare it over, and then at the end of the business day Friday (her time) start panicking about the new health anxiety and constantly IMing me/texting me and begging me to tell her she doesn't have cancer/diabetes/cancerdiabetes... until beginning of business day Monday. She'd do this at least once a month.

She brought up her new health fear in the middle of the week, I gave sane advice (pathophys, things to try, when to talk to her PCP about it). Then I screwed up my courage and told her that I hated to see this keep happening, but that I foresaw her doing nothing about this during the week and then putting herself in a state of panic about it all weekend. I gave examples of other times she'd done this. I told her it wasn't fair to her or me to keep repeating this cycle, and that I gave her advice when she asked but any action was up to her. I told her that dumping her fear on me all weekend isn't helping her, and it's hurting me.

She agreed and said this time was different, and did nothing. When she started blowing up my phone Friday night, I reminded her and stopped answering. It was hard as fuck but ultimately it felt better.

None of this was about the trans elephant in the room, but it sounds like your FtM has plenty of other problems too.

Also the next time she threatened suicide (unrelated) I called her local police nonemergent number and told them. She called me and told me to "stop doing this" and I told her she threatened suicide to someone across the country, I did the only thing I could, because I took her at her word. The trans thing came up briefly here--of course the cops would be dangerous to her, a transman--and I said "you present as female; they won't know you're trans unless you tell them." (That was so cathartic to say.)

She stopped talking to me for a couple of months but never suicide-baited to me again. I didn't "fix her" but I guess at least someone learned, even if it was only me.

So my advice is "get over the sadness and get to being mad for what they've done to you," and don't let them change the subject to an argument about "being trans" when you want to talk about having a healthy friendship.

 

[thog]

The old friend I talked about earlier in this thread has now decided he's getting the axe wound. There goes any chance of him coming back to his senses and detransitioning, because he'll probably commit suicide first. I was holding out hope that one day he would become somewhat normal again and we could reconcile, but I don't think there's any chance of that happening anymore, because I don't know if he'll be able to accept living as a eunuch for the rest of his life.

 

[WilhelmTheThird]

Really wish the anime-industry would be more based, but I have noticed more troon-friendly. Mostly SJW-friendly anime that is released.
Anime should've just continued being a very niche thing in the west.

anime being niche is the thing that contributed to the fandom being autistic, and thus why it was ground zero for modern troon culture
as anime becomes more widespread you'll see shit like "that show" disappear, wouldnt want to upset frenchmen like Muhammed or Alhamidullah
not to mention "that show" is infinately more popular in japan than in the west

 

[Terffals]

The old friend I talked about earlier in this thread has now decided he's getting the axe wound. There goes any chance of him coming back to his senses and detransitioning, because he'll probably commit suicide first. I was holding out hope that one day he would become somewhat normal again and we could reconcile, but I don't think there's any chance of that happening anymore, because I don't know if he'll be able to accept living as a eunuch for the rest of his life.

This is how I feel a bit about my trans ftm friend.
I’ve always respected his pronouns even after peaking myself because hey who is it hurting. But as time went on the mental disconnect between keeping quiet and watching my friend mutilate her tits, ruin her body with hormones and then induct my other friend into being non-binary…grew wider and wider.
How can I say I’m someone’s friend and keep quiet about that? Why is it wrong to ask people to confront hard questions? To ask them to think and formulate their own answers instead of just following the crowd?
Now that I’m being more mask-off it really sucks to learn I basically have no real friends anymore and have to start from scratch.
At least I have you retards.

Sorry for the weird formatting site is being weird

 

[Nuthatches]

Losing one of my good friends to trans shit right now, feels bad man. She's someone I met online a few years ago and we've chatted nearly every day for the last 3ish years, she's a few years younger than me so kinda saw her like a little sister. Helped her with learning to draw better, introduced her to old internet things, grew really fond of her- she's a bit of a spazz but it was nice to have such an upbeat friend.

About a year ago she got obsessed with some video game and met new friends through it. About six months ago came out as FtM- I was hoping it was a phase. First she started talking more about porn which was ech to me but whatever, then it was expressing she can't stand her period - relatable so okay, and now she's started ramping it up. Has started talking about having a penis, sharing disgusting porn, keeps bringing up shotacon, talkin about cutting her tits off- it's all going downhill so fast. Been distancing myself. Suicide talk every couple days.

I'm tired boss.

Same thing happened to me. Except I met her on a drawing board website pre social media and we talked almost daily online for over 5 years. She was my best friend since I was a shut in autist at the time.

Fast forward to college days and onward. I slowly get over my internal hated of women and seek therapy, get married, have a family. I’m comfortable in my body now and I openly speak against TRA stuff. My childhood internet friend is a neurotic mess, identifies as a man despite being shorter than me with a butter face, lives with a bunch of troons, and draws trans porn. We only talk once a year now, as our lives have diverged so much. Last time she discussed wanting to take testosterone.

In a different scenario, I could have ended up the same way if certain things hadn’t happened to me to wake me up to the realities of the world along the way.

Unrelated but I also had a handmaiden friend completely ghost me after I gave her the book “The man who would be queen”after a long discussion regarding troons (and I was polite about it). This was prior to the big trans craze too and she’s become a much more insufferable person. Shaved half her head, got a yakuza looking tattoo, and great news for the world, becoming a doctor.

 

[Ann Berlin]

This isn't someone I'm particularly close to but it's a coworker who is female but identifies as person of gender. I actually like her and unlike most troons she is pretty sociable, has friendships and hobbies outside of gender, and gets along well with her family.
Well today I found out two things: all her friends are female to trans, which doesn't surprise me at all. But her parents and family don't know she (an adult who has always lived at home) is transgender. She is currently trying to move out into a house that's her and her f to nb friends.
I was surprised because she is out as trans to friends, coworkers, bosses etc. But apparently she isn't secure enough in this identity to look her parents in the eye and tell them they don't have a daughter and never did.
I wouldn't post this here but what she said shook me: "I would rather [my parents] die before telling them I am trans"
So much insecurity with being her "true self." And for what? Her entire family and everyone who knows her outside her little troon squad just sees an awesome young woman who dresses how she wants, with short hair and doesn't wear makeup. Me and my other coworkers talk positively about her and it's always "I love working with Coworker because she-- I mean they--..."

I just don't get why people like this who have the world ready to accept them with open arms are so self-hating to construct an entire gender they don't belong to (and nobody belongs to) then yeet the teats

Spoiler: eta rant

I know there are LGB people here especially older ones who had no choice or chance to come out to their parents and I understand. But there's a difference between staying safe and amicable vs. just being insecure and timid. I know friends with blatantly homophobic parents who found out about their kid being gay and didn't approve but got along anyway because that's their kid first and a fag second.
I don't support waiting until your family dies to be yourself. Bitches be living to 90 now. good luck
Also she can come out to woke young people like our workplace but if she came out to her parents I bet she would have to explain why she "doesn't feel like a woman" lmao rip

 

[Super Guido]

This isn't someone I'm particularly close to but it's a coworker who is female but identifies as person of gender. I actually like her and unlike most troons she is pretty sociable, has friendships and hobbies outside of gender, and gets along well with her family.
Well today I found out two things: all her friends are female to trans, which doesn't surprise me at all. But her parents and family don't know she (an adult who has always lived at home) is transgender. She is currently trying to move out into a house that's her and her f to nb friends.
I was surprised because she is out as trans to friends, coworkers, bosses etc. But apparently she isn't secure enough in this identity to look her parents in the eye and tell them they don't have a daughter and never did.
I wouldn't post this here but what she said shook me: "I would rather [my parents] die before telling them I am trans"
So much insecurity with being her "true self." And for what? Her entire family and everyone who knows her outside her little troon squad just sees an awesome young woman who dresses how she wants, with short hair and doesn't wear makeup. Me and my other coworkers talk positively about her and it's always "I love working with Coworker because she-- I mean they--..."

I just don't get why people like this who have the world ready to accept them with open arms are so self-hating to construct an entire gender they don't belong to (and nobody belongs to) then yeet the teats

She's planning to move in with her tranny friends? Uh oh...

 

[Ann Berlin]

She's planning to move in with her tranny friends? Uh oh...

She doesn't want to live at home anymore because she "might want to cut her tits off" her words.
Find yourself friends who will support your pointless amputation when you think your parents might say "wait are you sure about this?" or something transphobic like that

 

[Lesbian Sold Snake]

Many troons are like deathfats. There’s an enabler lurking and paying for the lifestyle.

@Lesbian Sold Snake - this troon of yours, does he ask about your life? Does he thoughtfully remember points of interest, stress, or happiness for yourself? Does he make an effort to hold caring, two-sided conversations?
Or does he: monolog endlessly about himself and could easily replace you with a chatbot…

On occasion but very rarely. He doesn't monolgue as much as he used to and it's gotten harder to have an actual conversation with him. On some level he is aware that years of being a neet has eroded his social skills but the lack of motivation to change is what really grinds my gears.