Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[Mr Bunny]

That will be put down to racism. Unless it's a minority doing the attacking, in which case it will be put down to the racist white people and colonialism being the real reason, and therefore not a hate crime.

If Christians get attacked they're not called Christians but instead known as "Easter worshippers"

 

[Prosphora]

I would like to commend whoever immediately poisoned the well but dropping the photoshop, whoever it is literally invalidated this leak pretty much overnight.

 

[Butterschmalz]

Footage of the "Road of Death" leading to Bakhmut, with destroyed Ukrainian vehicles/armored vehicles
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https://t.me/i20028843/72067

Road of Death into Bakhmut/Artemovsk, vehicle view
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Reminds me of the junk crater from "The hills have eyes" (2006).

and the Ukies living in it...

 

[YumeNoHero]

I agree that the endless mocking of the Uketard thread here is cringe; it's the same dozen users circlejerking and I frankly couldn't care less about the latest retardation they posted or the latest spergout about this thread they had.

While it's fun seeing users from Ukraine thread being retards as usual, I think there's no need for those to be posted here in this thread. Those cluttered up this thread with useless information.

Footage of the "Road of Death" leading to Bakhmut, with destroyed Ukrainian vehicles/armored vehicles
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https://t.me/i20028843/72067

Road of Death into Bakhmut/Artemovsk, vehicle view
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Is this the only road in and out of Bakhmut left at this time? It might as well be useless with all the destroyed vehicles littered across the width of the road unless Ukraine drivers have mad drifting skill or have off-road vehicles.

 

[CaptainAutism69]

While it's fun seeing users from Ukraine thread being retards as usual, I think there's no need for those to be posted here in this thread. Those cluttered up this thread with useless information.

We know they are faggots and cowards, and any of that 'look at dem!' stuff should go in the masturbates forum instead of here

 

[Cold Root Beer]

Didn't see it mentioned yet, but the Director a Director of Raytheon is no more:



article (archive)

Crash occurred shortly after takeoff. Rich retards killing themselves flying their own plane is fairly common, but I'm going to guess the NTSB is going to be investigating this shit with a fine-toothed comb.

Even if it wasn't an "accident", at the very least karma caught up with him.

 

[Gar For Archer]

Didn't see it mentioned yet, but the Director of Raytheon is no more:

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article (archive)

Crash occurred shortly after takeoff. Rich retards killing themselves flying their own plane is fairly common, but I'm going to guess the NTSB is going to be investigating this shit with a fine-toothed comb.

Even if it wasn't an "accident", at the very least karma caught up with him.

A director, not the director, so not really big news. A company like Raytheon probably has hundreds of guys with that job title if not more. Still funny though.

 

[Cold Root Beer]

A director, not the director, so not really big news. A company like Raytheon probably has hundreds of guys with that job title if not more. Still funny though.

Thanks for the heads-up. I hate when companies do that, like how Goldman Sachs has hundreds of "Vice Presidents".

 

[Overly Serious]

So a mid-day post from WeebUnion. He normally does things first thing in the morning so a post in the afternoon usually means something has happened.

Seems that Wagner and their fully automatic shovels have reached and taken control of parts of the central rail line that bisects Bakhmut. They've also now reached part of the larger southern main road into the city. Formerly it was under Fire Control further down but they now are actually in the high-rise buildings alongside it. Weeb is saying how this opens up the rear positions of the UAF in the city to be outflanked and attacked from behind. Someone further up asked if the "road of death" was the last remaining road into the city. I'm not certain but I think it is now. Makes one wonder if there is any truth to the rumour of a tunnel between Bakhmut and Chasiv Yar. It's quite a distance but not impossible. If there isn't then I'm very curious what the supply situation for the Ukranians is in Bakhmut now because they wont be able to get much in by road.

Separate question for the military experts we have in this thread. Is Russia still holding back in terms of types of missile and artillery? I ask because the city seems to be holding out a very long time. I think back to what I read about historical wars and things like the firebombing of dresden. Is (a) my understanding of such historical bombing campaigns exaggerated, (b) Russia doesn't have such capabilities or (c) Russia is not going full 'raze it to the ground' by choice? I guess I'm just wondering if there are options for attacking Bakhmut that Russia is just not utilising and why. Other than nuclear, of course.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

@Overly Serious

Remember that the main campaign is Wagner, not the regular RuAF, so they dont get to play with the really big toys. The firebombing of Dresden was executed with complete air supremacy and was called "Operation Millennium" because the idea was to get 1000+ bombers together for a raid as essentially a publicity stunt (remember kids, the "good war" is the one where you incinerate thousands of helpless civilians for no strategic objective greater than a cool headline.) As such it didn't need to be strategic or even particularly effective, and was objectively a massive waste of resources. Given how lean Russia has been running so far, I assume the could do it but don't consider the trade offs worth it.

 

[NikocadoSlot]

I may an autistic soft baby retard pacifist who hates the war but seriously fuck Ukraine. I was in Russia prior to this and the entire war ruined all my plans and my professor’s plans. We were working with Los Alamos scientists on a project and then the whole thing came falling down. Could have had a sick publication and math degree but now my prof’s had to flee to the Baltics and I’m gonna have to transfer to another uni. Not that it matters because im not going back to school for the foreseeable future. The whole conflict has destroyed any of my interest towards science and I just work minimum wage replenishing shelves because that takes my mind off things. I never expected something like this to affect me personally and im haunted daily by the thought of honest men dying and their families grieving, from both sides. I had a Ukie roommate and he was chill. If not for the maidans orchestrated by globohomo we wouldn’t have to be in this mess. In all due respect I can’t even express a fraction of the hate I have for these worthless politicians and their ambitions ruining lives and livelihoods.

 

[Yak-130 Mitten]

Separate question for the military experts we have in this thread. Is Russia still holding back in terms of types of missile and artillery? I ask because the city seems to be holding out a very long time. I think back to what I read about historical wars and things like the firebombing of dresden. Is (a) my understanding of such historical bombing campaigns exaggerated, (b) Russia doesn't have such capabilities or (c) Russia is not going full 'raze it to the ground' by choice? I guess I'm just wondering if there are options for attacking Bakhmut that Russia is just not utilising and why. Other than nuclear, of course.

I'm an armchair expert, but I'll try to answer anyway.

A) - Somewhat correct. Artemovsk was already bombed to oblivion, and what wasn't bombed was heavily fortified. Cities are usually a nightmare to attack and conquer, unless you flatten them to the ground - see Wesel which was destroyed in 98% and allied paratroopers landed among empty rubble. Sure you can bomb it and destroy, but it only creates more holdouts for enemy. Although, we have had reports of russian artillery bombing the everloving shit of confirmed strongholds, so who knows.
B) - Russia has had some 7000 artillery guns in service across all branches when the war started, with further 30-40k in reserve, so I'd say they definitely do have capacity to flatten a city.
C) - Can't raze what's already destroyed. I'll add to that that Artemovsk was mostly built using commieblocks which have a certain reputation in eastern europe. Trying to drill a hole to hang your furniture meant you needed a new set of drills, probably new electric drill and a bottle of vodka. Those bitches hold for a long time. I don't know if it was intended for these to be explosive resistant, but they are.

 

[CaptainAutism69]

ere isn't then I'm very curious what the supply situation for the Ukranians is in Bakhmut now because they wont be able to get much in by road.

Separate question for the military experts we have in this thread. Is Russia still holding back in terms of types of missile and artillery? I ask because the city seems to be holding out a very long time. I think back to what I read about historical wars and things like the firebombing of dresden. Is (a) my understanding of such historical bombing campaigns exaggerated, (b) Russia doesn't have such capabilities or (c) Russia is not going full 'raze it to the ground' by choice? I guess I'm just wondering if there are options for attacking Bakhmut that Russia is just not utilising and why. Other than nuclear, of course.

There are still civvys in Bakhmut, and letting off a FOAB, granted would merk plenty of hohols, but wouldn't go down well with the people you're going to be ruling over afterwards or DPR troops who's grandmother just got gibbed

 

[Meh123]

C) - Can't raze what's already destroyed. I'll add to that that Artemovsk was mostly built using commieblocks which have a certain reputation in eastern europe. Trying to drill a hole to hang your furniture meant you needed a new set of drills, probably new electric drill and a bottle of vodka. Those bitches hold for a long time. I don't know if it was intended for these to be explosive resistant, but they are.

And earplugs for the entire block.
They're made out of prefabricated concrete panels reinforced with rebars. Good luck soundproofing one, but I know a block that survived a gas explosion with minimal damage (no evacuation was necessary from the other flats)

 

[Got Milk!]

Update from Rybar on TG: (sometimes translate app changes Russian to British flag)

️ Destruction of the hangar with the HIMARS MLRS in Orekhovo

Today at 17.30 artillery units of the 58th Army of the Russian Armed Forces attacked the hangars on the territory of the Orekhovskoye elevator near the railway station in Orekhovo in the Zaporozhye region.

In warehouses located closer to the football field, there were two HIMARS MLRS launchers, one M777 155-mm towed howitzer, several unidentified armored vehicles and artillery ammunition.

As a result of the impact with a package of 300-mm Smerch multiple launch rocket system and 20 shells of the 152-mm towed gun "Hyacinth", the hangars for storing weapons and equipment were completely destroyed, and the glow from the detonation was visible for many kilometers from Orekhovo.

With a high degree of probability, weapons and military equipment were transferred to Orekhov in preparation for the offensive to provide fire support for ground forces during the assault on Russian positions, and their loss will significantly affect the combat capabilities of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Zaporozhye region.


#Zaporozhye #Orekhov #Russia #Ukraine
@rybar with @ZSU_Hunter_2_0


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How many psi is the concrete in this commie block?

(For comparison, a driveway is usually 3k psi and a nuclear plant is 6-8k)

 

[Yak-130 Mitten]

How many psi is the concrete in this commie block?

From what I could gather, a press of maximum pressure of 5000 tonnes (5,000,000kg, or 11,023,113.11lb) was used to form plates with maximum width of 2,5m (maximal room height) and maximal length of 6m. I really suck at math so can't help much with that. I might also be completely wrong and read about other forms of plate forming.

 

[Derka Derka]

The whole issue is the Pentagon wants it gone, so it must have something worth looking at.

I think it's an "oldest trick in the book" Maxwell Smart, leaked by the glowies.
A set of documents that were actually drawn up by Nato. But using a version that shows a plan, that is designed to get the Russians to focus their defense in the wrong area.

Road of Death into Bakhmut/Artemovsk, vehicle view

They should rename that road as the "road of death", after the war.

 

[Got Milk!]

From what I could gather, a press of maximum pressure of 5000 tonnes (5,000,000kg, or 11,023,113.11lb) was used to form plates with maximum width of 2,5m (maximal room height) and maximal length of 6m. I really suck at math so can't help much with that. I might also be completely wrong and read about other forms of plate forming.

Well the psi has a lot to do with the mix of the concrete. I used to make concrete on a small concrete plant. We used a fiber additive among other things to change psi.

 

[Yak-130 Mitten]

Well the psi has a lot to do with the mix of the concrete. I used to make concrete on a small concrete plant. We used a fiber additive among other things to change psi.

Yea, can't help there then fren. Can't find any reliable information on that. Most I could find was that reinforced concrete was used of varying thickness - from 14 to 26cm.

 

[demicolon]

not just that Siberia has vast quantity's of resources the only issue is the cold makes it hell to extract them, warmer it gets the easier and cheaper it gets to extract them.

And lots of alien bases, lots of extraterrestial tech to capture.