Are you getting the vaccine? - Absolute trashfire thread, please enter with caution

Lurker said:
i concede that i couldn't find any source confirming their use in africa. it seems as though the MRNA version of the vaccine was developed more for the US while africa got the classic viral vector ones.
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Right from "used in africa, not commercialized because ebola only exists in limited countries" to "developed more for the US, despite only existing in limited countries". I wonder why they never fully finished developing it.
Don't blame you for misreading though, the author really wrote that in a way that implies the vaccines were actually used instead of just developed. Many such cases
 
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Snappy Turtle said:
oh that's pretty random and funny
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Oh no it's not a joke, it happened about 22 minutes ago.

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Snappy Turtle said:
Right from "used in africa, not commercialized because ebola only exists in limited countries" to "developed more for the US, despite only existing in limited countries". I wonder why they never fully finished developing it.
Don't blame you for misreading though, the author really wrote that in a way that implies the vaccines were actually used instead of just developed. Many such cases
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they were used on guinea pigs, though. :smug: you know, it's funny, because i am unable to find anything regarding human trials for the MRNA ebola vaccine. i did find another article that mentioned the guinea pigs, though. from what i am gathering, though, they've been testing this for years, and only recently did the US sign a deal with Moderna (the same ones doing the guinea pig tests) to develop various MRNA vaccines, including one for ebola. maybe there were human trials between the guinea pig tests and the US government paying them to develop MRNA vaccines, but if there were i can't find any definitive proof.

so it's not lying, per se. they are developing ebola MRNA vaccines and they DO work. on guinea pigs. which isn't misleading at all.

you got me there, partner. if there were no MRNA vaccines used in africa, then the covid-19 MRNA vaccine would be the first true rollout of an MRNA vaccine.
 
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Lurker said:
they were used on guinea pigs, though. :smug: you know, it's funny, because i am unable to find anything regarding human trials for the MRNA ebola vaccine. i did find another article that mentioned the guinea pigs, though. from what i am gathering, though, they've been testing this for years, and only recently did the US sign a deal with Moderna (the same ones doing the guinea pig tests) to develop various MRNA vaccines, including one for ebola. maybe there were human trials between the guinea pig tests and the US government paying them to develop MRNA vaccines, but if there were i can't find any definitive proof.

so it's not lying, per se. they are developing ebola MRNA vaccines and they DO work. on guinea pigs. which isn't misleading at all.

you got me there, partner. if there were no MRNA vaccines used in africa, then the covid-19 MRNA vaccine would be the first true rollout of an MRNA vaccine.
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That you were misled by it indicates it's misleading. Incidentally all guinea pigs in the mRNA vaccine trial were euthanized 28 days after getting the ebola injection.
 
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Snappy Turtle said:
That you were misled by it indicates it's misleading. Incidentally all guinea pigs in the mRNA vaccine trial were euthanized 28 days after getting the ebola injection.
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that was me being facetious. i don't know much about the magical world of animal testing, but i wonder if there's a policy where they euthanize an animal once it's been used for a test, since it no longer is "pure" or whatever. idk. one would think they'd maybe put the animal up for adoption but what do i know.
 
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Lurker said:
that was me being facetious. i don't know much about the magical world of animal testing, but i wonder if there's a policy where they euthanize an animal once it's been used for a test, since it no longer is "pure" or whatever. idk. one would think they'd maybe put the animal up for adoption but what do i know.
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You were being facetious when you said
Lurker said:
we've used this technology before, during the ebola outbreak in africa. of course, because it was found in a limited number of countries, it wasn't commercialized.
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Lurker said:
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Oh we're talking about different things I guess, I meant the author of the John's Hopkins piece you linked was being misleading with
The first mRNA vaccines using these fatty envelopes were developed against the deadly Ebola virus, but since that virus is only found in a limited number of African countries, it had no commercial development in the U.S.
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as you seemed to interpret this as saying we had actually used the vaccines, a reasonable reading.
 
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Snappy Turtle said:
Oh we're talking about different things I guess, I meant the author of the John's Hopkins piece you linked was being misleading with

as you seemed to interpret this as saying we had actually used the vaccines, a reasonable reading.
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i mean you're not wrong, it's misleading.
 
Snappy Turtle said:
not even after receiving an effective vaccine
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i wonder if it's an issue of they're being vaccinated, but still being exposed to, and possibly carrying, ebola, which a potential owner likely isn't vaccinated against. so it's not to say the vaccine didn't work, but rather they may still be able to carry ebola somehow.
 
Snappy Turtle said:
A technology can be worked on for a decade and still be experimental / new. This is the first large-scale rollout of this kind of vaccine.
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I think @Lurker has gone above and beyond to prove that she does not understand this concept.

These people are most certainly retarded, they remind me of those mindless antifa people you see in youtube videos, the sort that just start screeching corporate buzzwords when they feel themselves start to think.

Blacktranslivesmatter y'all.
 
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