General GunTuber thread

[RSU 1741]

I have no experience of the situation in the US but in the UK those are institutions that are full of gatekeepers, who put a lot of effort into controlling access for only the properly credentialed. Ian McCollum's mate Jonathan Ferguson being a great example of this, filling his museum with shit dioramas, exhibitions on American gun culture, and areas for larpers to act out for an audience. While the actual collection stays safely locked up in the back. Refusing to digitise records (which google at one point was offering to do for free) for fear the unqualified people might gain access to them.

It's a bunch of problems all together. I don't know the situation in the UK, but archives here (historical or not) are theoretically free, but they're going to make you pay for copies and make you pay for the offense of asking them to do their job. Archival institutions here were for the longest time a place to dump under-performing public workers, the situation is changing but, well, inertia. Plus hiring retards because they're cheaper doesn't help with efficiency. I have a good number of horror stories of mentally challenged retards using priceless 16th century documents as food trays.

Museums. I've seen my share of stuff in Europe, and gatekeeping is real. Having some contacts in my local areas I can say the situation is even worse than we can imagine, the vast majority of public institutions flat-out don't give a shit about weapon conservation (you can point out to a curator the rusty and mislabeled rifle on display and he will shrug and say he doesn't care, what the fuck seriously). Not that private institutions are better, they're often amateur centrals without a clue (still better than public-run institutions that reward being incompetent).

Digitizing is a sore point, there are some great projects (for example, the German-Russian collaboration on digitizing German WW2 content in Russian archives was wonderful) but again they require manpower, money and the archivists to give a shit, they usually don't.

Fourth, WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO THE IMPERIAL WAR MUSEUM and its connected exhibitions: of all the military museums I've visited they're flat-out the most infuriating and puzzling of all. They reportedly have a fuckhuge collection of the rarest shit known to man, why the fuck we have embarrassing floor upon floor of exposition planned for CHILDREN (and badly done, I may add!) with random pieces thrown out just because, half of the bottom floor is shop&restaurant and the only place that half-works as a museum is the completely out-of-place HOLOCAUST section. It's like they hate being a military museum, I've seen places run by a bunch of hillbillies work better with shit content because they loved their exhibitions, the IWM seems to be managed by spiteful bastards.

 

[Beautiful Border]

I have no experience of the situation in the US but in the UK those are institutions that are full of gatekeepers, who put a lot of effort into controlling access for only the properly credentialed. Ian McCollum's mate Jonathan Ferguson being a great example of this, filling his museum with shit dioramas, exhibitions on American gun culture, and areas for larpers to act out for an audience. While the actual collection stays safely locked up in the back. Refusing to digitise records (which google at one point was offering to do for free) for fear the unqualified people might gain access to them.

Does Jonathan Ferguson have that much say over how the Royal Armouries is run, though? I wasn't under the impression he owned the museum, just that he was the resident researcher for a specific part of it. I vaguely remember him talking about how he had to fight tooth and nail for years just to get permission to post video content to YouTube under the Royal Armouries name to begin with.

Fourth, WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO THE IMPERIAL WAR MUSEUM and its connected exhibitions: of all the military museums I've visited they're flat-out the most infuriating and puzzling of all. They reportedly have a fuckhuge collection of the rarest shit known to man, why the fuck we have embarrassing floor upon floor of exposition planned for CHILDREN (and badly done, I may add!) with random pieces thrown out just because, half of the bottom floor is shop&restaurant and the only place that half-works as a museum is the completely out-of-place HOLOCAUST section. It's like they hate being a military museum, I've seen places run by a bunch of hillbillies work better with shit content because they loved their exhibitions, the IWM seems to be managed by spiteful bastards.

This is an issue with museums in general, they are being increasingly dumbed down in the belief this will attract more people. Simon Webb/History Debunked has a good video talking about this phenomenon and it's quite disheartening.

A good parallel to this is with Guinness World Records. The books as they were 40-50 years ago were dry but informative tomes that revolved mostly around sensible records in feats of sports. Over the decades more and more concessions are made to make them more interesting to casual readers. Fast forward to now and the books are virtually worthless as a source for useful information, big flashy pictures take up entire pages and the records themselves are mostly nonsense like "Longest time spent playing an accordion on a unicycle" or "Largest gathering of people dressed in smurf costumes".

 

[Trig.Point]

Othais comes off as overworked, sleep-deprived, and a tad oblivious the more I listen to him candidly.
His Youtube numbers are apparently bad enough that he's pushing Utreon over Patreon, they still rely on YouTube's "algorithm" to do their marketing for them, and with Mark Novak(alleged terrible gunsmith) going on his own way he doesn't attract bubba looking for gunfixing tutorials.

That channel is still a huge achievement. The decision to continue to focus on esoteric firearms, isn't just fueled by autism, the existing resources were poor and hard to come by. He's essentially made YouTube the best source for information for many individual firearms.

Forgotten weapons makes easily digestible short videos that allows it's viewers to feel knowledgeable at the end. A 1 hour 35 minute video on Scandinavian Nagant revolvers, requires a bit more commitment from the viewer, who will actually get a genuinely huge amount of knowledge in return.

I'm even coming around to Mae being an asset, and that her curation of the Q&A's are probably for the best. Also the minute of Mae videos seemed to have had some success.

Othais employs people for the channel, worrying about your own pay cheque is bad enough, but having to worry about being able to have money in the bank to pay other people, is a special kind of feeling.

 

[Wilhelm Bittrich]

Does Jonathan Ferguson have that much say over how the Royal Armouries is run, though? I wasn't under the impression he owned the museum, just that he was the resident researcher for a specific part of it. I vaguely remember him talking about how he had to fight tooth and nail for years just to get permission to post video content to YouTube under the Royal Armouries name to begin with.

Jonathan Ferguson is curator of Firearms and Artillery in the Royal Armouries, the Director General and Master of the Armouries is a Nat Edwards.
It's actually very doubtful that Mr. Ferguson who is listed under collection staff, has a say in anything outside his firearms and artillery collection(s).

 

[Trig.Point]

Jonathan Ferguson is curator of Firearms and Artillery in the Royal Armouries, the Director General and Master of the Armouries is a Nat Edwards.
It's actually very doubtful that Mr. Ferguson who is listed under collection staff, has a say in anything outside his firearms and artillery collection(s).

The Royal Armouries Museum building in Leeds, is just beautiful. It's a marvel of Architecture. and as you wander through it looking at how various midwits have constructed exhibits to showcase 'their vision' a visitor will get time to reflect on that.

All the staff you encounter are essentially working for free, including the larpers in the main hall. It's people like Ferguson in the back sucking hard on the government tit that are to blame for the state of it. Even his YouTube video series is more about getting some more sweet cash into the slush fund as well as raising his own profile.

The Royal Armouries has specific legislation exempting it from various UK laws, and allowing it to accumulate items in a way that few other museums have the opportunity for (ie for free).

in return for this they provide a shit visitor experience, and an opportunity for humanities graduates that have nothing but contempt for firearms to construct exhibits.

The only thing worth visiting the museum for is the Tudor era exhibits, because actual experts have constructed them. Even the lighting and framing is better. Henry VIII's armor from the Field of the Cloth of Gold is stunning. After that you can go to the American gun culture exhibit and feel superior to ignorant Americans that think firearm ownership is a right.

 

[RSU 1741]

After that you can go to the American gun culture exhibit and feel superior to ignorant Americans that think firearm ownership is a right.

I'm quite curious (I can't find information on it) but who exactly thinks that it's proper to waste valuable space to explain "American Gun Culture" to the British? And what does such an exhibition even entails, pieces of random Chicago gangs and dramatic recreations of burglar shootouts?

Let's check the site, maybe I will find some info on it, it can't....

What the fuck is wrong the British I swear

I fully understand that the vast majority of the staff completely hates the concept of a military museum, but can't you try at least to find people that give a shit about the thing? The staff in public museums here is often criminally ignorant and lazy, but this is a level of spite and hatred of the subject that I find difficult to understand

 

[Corn Flakes]

That channel is still a huge achievement. The decision to continue to focus on esoteric firearms, isn't just fueled by autism, the existing resources were poor and hard to come by. He's essentially made YouTube the best source for information for many individual firearms.

Forgotten weapons makes easily digestible short videos that allows it's viewers to feel knowledgeable at the end. A 1 hour 35 minute video on Scandinavian Nagant revolvers, requires a bit more commitment from the viewer, who will actually get a genuinely huge amount of knowledge in return.

I think both Othais and Ian have recognized that their channels are supplemental to one another. Forgotten Weapons is a gateway where people go to get some initial information or to be exposed to new (well, "new to me") guns, while C&Rsenal provides the full infodump for the True Autists™ out there. Which is why Ian is usually very happy to refer people to a C&Rsenal video on the subject where one exists.

Unfortunately, Othais' business model really requires a patron. It's the kind of stuff you'd do with a university grant. It's vital information, but it's never gonna sell enough to prosper by itself. Dude needs a suspiciously wealthy gun collector to bankroll him so he can hire more help, particularly on the admin side.

 

[Puff]

I've been watching C&Rsenals recent 6 hour Q&A.

I don't know whether Mae does it deliberately but just like last year she seemed to steer Othias away from talking about his interaction with museums and archives.

I have no experience of the situation in the US but in the UK those are institutions that are full of gatekeepers, who put a lot of effort into controlling access for only the properly credentialed. Ian McCollum's mate Jonathan Ferguson being a great example of this, filling his museum with shit dioramas, exhibitions on American gun culture, and areas for larpers to act out for an audience. While the actual collection stays safely locked up in the back. Refusing to digitise records (which google at one point was offering to do for free) for fear the unqualified people might gain access to them.

Othias mentioned he pays people to access the archives. A novel approach when you actually pay someone with money, rather than in exposure or experience (cough cough Mark Novak winging about not being able to find an apprentice). It's still fucked up that some PhD student working at Subways probably has better access than he has.

I just really enjoyed the anti-carpetbagger rant.

 

[Sumptinsfuckey]

I ain't gonna say to disarm all the trannies and round them all up, but for every one which is remotely level headed (I don't think I've ever talked with any who was 100% tightly wrapped), there's like 20 who are some kind of narcissistic 'activist' and a typically some sort of horrible person.

Gee. How strange. It's almost as if a group of people who are literally defined by being delusional aren't mwtally stable.

Now, that's not grounds for being disarmed, assholes have rights, but I've seen really quite a few trannies making statements and repeated calls to arms which leave me wondering why they aren't fucking Baker'd. You can say that about normal people, too, but trannies just seem to exhibit a higher ratio, particularly for such a tiny demographic.

Because, by definition, they are fucking coo coo for coco puffs.

 

[JJLiautaud]

I'm quite curious (I can't find information on it) but who exactly thinks that it's proper to waste valuable space to explain "American Gun Culture" to the British? And what does such an exhibition even entails, pieces of random Chicago gangs and dramatic recreations of burglar shootouts?

Let's check the site, maybe I will find some info on it, it can't....


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What the fuck is wrong the British I swear

I fully understand that the vast majority of the staff completely hates the concept of a military museum, but can't you try at least to find people that give a shit about the thing? The staff in public museums here is often criminally ignorant and lazy, but this is a level of spite and hatred of the subject that I find difficult to understand

They're really going with the all the women who dressed up as men were trannies, take of history, all I can say is lmao.

 

[khaine]

Yeah, the Imperial War Museum sucks, particularly when compared to the Australian War Memorial

 

[Sumptinsfuckey]

or Brandon Herrera accidently putting up a tutorial on how to make gunpowder.

Wait what? When was this?

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

Wait what? When was this?

He said he believed this was ultimately the reason he was suspended for 7 days for the Shinzo Abe Improvised Shotgun video. In his own words "I didn't give out the exact recipe, but I did kinda say how to do it."

It's the exact kind of stupid shit (that's easily found on google) that normies and politicians would pounce on for being in a youtube video IMO, so maybe he does have a point trying to get friendly with them?

Edit: Relevant part of video explaining his suspension

https://youtu.be/dEWoARiEofY?t=149

 

[Sumptinsfuckey]

He said he believed this was ultimately the reason he was suspended for 7 days for the Shinzo Abe Improvised Shotgun video. In his own words "I didn't give out the exact recipe, but I did kinda say how to do it."

It's the exact kind of stupid shit (that's easily found on google) that normies and politicians would pounce on for being in a youtube video IMO, so maybe he does have a point trying to get friendly with them?

Huh. I watched that video and don't remember that.

 

[Serbian Peacekeepers]

Wait what? When was this?

Its the Shinzo Abe Pipe Gun video, he showed how to make blackpowder at home with stuff bought from the grocery store, and then of course you have the part where the shotgun nearly pipebombs and sends one of the "barrels" straight back into the ground. Frankly that entire video was just one step away from "How 2 make Homemade PipeBombs (EZ)"

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

Huh. I watched that video and don't remember that.

The original upload or the one that he edited?

I never saw the original tbh

 

[East_Clintwood]

The original upload or the one that he edited?

I never saw the original tbh

The original one. He covers the ingredients, and then shows the mixing. He also showed the amazon shopping list of all the individual parts for the gun itself (not that that's entirely useful given how fucking badly his design went). there's a re-upload her which shows what he did

https://youtu.be/JnwuSTkqZyc?t=158

 

[Sumptinsfuckey]

The original upload or the one that he edited?

I never saw the original tbh

Apparently I only saw the edited version. I just watched the reupload and do not recall those parts.

The original one. He covers the ingredients, and then shows the mixing. He also showed the amazon shopping list of all the individual parts for the gun itself (not that that's entirely useful given how fucking badly his design went). there's a re-upload her which shows what he did

https://youtu.be/JnwuSTkqZyc?t=158

Thanks for the link

 

[Romulus augustulus]

I think both Othais and Ian have recognized that their channels are supplemental to one another. Forgotten Weapons is a gateway where people go to get some initial information or to be exposed to new (well, "new to me") guns, while C&Rsenal provides the full infodump for the True Autists™ out there. Which is why Ian is usually very happy to refer people to a C&Rsenal video on the subject where one exists.

Unfortunately, Othais' business model really requires a patron. It's the kind of stuff you'd do with a university grant. It's vital information, but it's never gonna sell enough to prosper by itself. Dude needs a suspiciously wealthy gun collector to bankroll him so he can hire more help, particularly on the admin side.

in older days Othias would have published a well regarded reference book. probably still could.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Mrgunsandgear had a lemon for his review of the new (to the US) Glock 28. Hope to see more reviews to see if this early batch is wonky or he just got rather unlucky. The TFBTV one is purported to have ran flawlessly in their review. I'm autistic and really like .380 firearms and was hoping to grab one, now I'm going to wait a while

Interesting. Still thinking on my first semi auto (my car keeps giving me shit lol). There's always the Ruger Security 380, which has my attention at the very least, since I haven't heard bad things about it, and it's cheaper too