Stinkyboy
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These whiny bitches should eat hot coal like the romans
Make theirv41% count
Make theirv41% count
Megathread Trannies posting their L's Online - Heckin valid people posting their funny misfortunes on the internet
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Jesus cocksucking Christ.
Someone get that 14-year-old's post out to Andy Ngo and the Daily Mail.
Someone get that 14-year-old's post out to Andy Ngo and the Daily Mail.
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A subtle statistical L
Did you realise that one in every 67 Muslims is transgender? That adults with no educational qualifications are almost twice as likely to identify as transgender as university graduates? That the London boroughs of Brent and Newham are home to higher proportions of transgender people than Brighton and Oxford? These are some of the astonishing results from the 2021 census of England and Wales, which was the first in the world to ask about gender identity.
The Office for National Statistics (ONS) released detailed census data for England and Wales on Tuesday. These data deepen the problems raised by Alice Sullivan, professor of sociology at University College London, and myself after initial results were released in January. As the census is the gold standard of data collection, to query its numbers seems sacrilegious. The results for gender identity, however, are scarcely credible.
The problem began with the question itself. The ONS did not ask a plain question like: ‘Are you transgender?’ Instead, it chose a convoluted formulation: ‘Is the gender you identify with the same as your sex registered at birth?’
Those who answered ‘no’ could then write in their gender identity. This question assumes that everyone has a gender identity. It also assumes that everyone was registered at birth. As the human rights campaigner Maya Forstater has emphasised, some immigrants were not registered at birth. The question could have puzzled many respondents outside the professional and managerial classes. How many of them mistakenly answered in the negative?
Anomalies appear when we look at the distribution of the transgender population by local authority. Newham and Brent top the list, with 1.5 per cent and 1.3 per cent respectively. Brighton and Hove, with 1 per cent, ranks only twentieth. Yet Brighton is the LGBTQ capital of Britain, home to the country’s longest-running Trans Pride celebration. It is also the site of two universities, including the University of Sussex where some transgender activists and their allies effectively ousted philosopher Kathleen Stock for writing about sex. Could Brighton really have a less salubrious climate for trans people than Newham? It seems unlikely. This data is also hard to tally with that gathered from a petition to reform the Gender Recognition Act, launched by trans activists in 2021, which attracted 118,000 signatories from England and Wales. By comparing the distribution of signatures to the distribution of the transgender population according to the census, we see that the correlation between the two distributions across all 331 local authorities is close to zero. Brighton and Hove, for example, had more signatories, relative to adult population, than anywhere else except the City of London. Newham and Brent, by contrast, had relatively few signatories, ranking 303rd and 304th respectively.
If places like Newham and Brent had so few inhabitants willing to sign a pro-transgender petition, what accounts for their prominence in the census transgender figures? What these boroughs have are many immigrants for whom English is a second language, and who are therefore liable to be confused by a convoluted question on gender identity. The strongest predictor of the transgender population across 331 local authorities, as measured by the census, is the proportion of people whose main language is not English.
Not all the numbers are contaminated. The census disaggregates the transgender population into five categories. Two of the categories are helpful for determining the number of trans people in a particular area: those who wrote in ‘non-binary’ or some other novel identity like ‘gender queer’, comprising 48,000 respondents. They are distributed geographically much as we would expect, with Brighton and Hove having the largest concentration. It is the remaining three categories which are likely to include some confused non-transgender respondents: trans man, trans woman, and those who specified no identity, totalling 214,000 respondents.
The census data released this week added to the list of anomalies. Muslims are almost three times more likely than non-religious people to identify as transgender. Black people are four times more likely than white people to identify as transgender. In every case, the census results contradict what we know from other data. For example, referrals to the Tavistock’s Gender Identity Development Service include far more white and non-religious youth than the overall population of the same age. By contrast, those census results are what would be expected if a number of people with poor English were confused by the question and inadvertently classified themselves as transgender.
The ONS has also finally this week released customised data showing the tabulation of gender identity by proficiency in English. As predicted, those who speak English ‘not well’ or ‘not well at all’ were most likely to be counted as transgender: 2.2 per cent of them, compared to 0.4 per cent of those whose main language is English (or Welsh in Wales). Adults whose main language is not English made up only 10 per cent of the overall population, but according to the census they contributed 29 per cent of the transgender numbers.
How did the ONS manage to produce such implausible data on gender identity? In ‘a case study of policy capture’, the statisticians were guided by lobby groups like Stonewall. It is surely no coincidence that the gender question replicated, with minor variation, Stonewall’s definition of ‘cisgender’: ‘Someone whose gender identity is the same as the sex they were assigned at birth’.
The question, according to the ONS, was ‘evaluated via community testing at LGBT History Month events’. But did the ONS consider how immigrants whose first language is not English – and who may be blissfully ignorant of esoteric concepts like ‘cisgender’ – might understand the question, or rather could misunderstand it?
The decennial census is the bedrock of British statistics. Errors in data collection not only impede our understanding of society, but also misallocate government funding. Newham Borough Council, for example, will come under pressure to devote more of its budget to the substantial number of trans people recorded by the census, when – if my argument is correct – those numbers have been significantly inflated. The problem does not end with the census, because its question on gender identity has become the default for taxpayer-funded surveys in England and Wales. The errors will ramify for years.
The Office for National Statistics (ONS) released detailed census data for England and Wales on Tuesday. These data deepen the problems raised by Alice Sullivan, professor of sociology at University College London, and myself after initial results were released in January. As the census is the gold standard of data collection, to query its numbers seems sacrilegious. The results for gender identity, however, are scarcely credible.
The problem began with the question itself. The ONS did not ask a plain question like: ‘Are you transgender?’ Instead, it chose a convoluted formulation: ‘Is the gender you identify with the same as your sex registered at birth?’
Those who answered ‘no’ could then write in their gender identity. This question assumes that everyone has a gender identity. It also assumes that everyone was registered at birth. As the human rights campaigner Maya Forstater has emphasised, some immigrants were not registered at birth. The question could have puzzled many respondents outside the professional and managerial classes. How many of them mistakenly answered in the negative?
Anomalies appear when we look at the distribution of the transgender population by local authority. Newham and Brent top the list, with 1.5 per cent and 1.3 per cent respectively. Brighton and Hove, with 1 per cent, ranks only twentieth. Yet Brighton is the LGBTQ capital of Britain, home to the country’s longest-running Trans Pride celebration. It is also the site of two universities, including the University of Sussex where some transgender activists and their allies effectively ousted philosopher Kathleen Stock for writing about sex. Could Brighton really have a less salubrious climate for trans people than Newham? It seems unlikely. This data is also hard to tally with that gathered from a petition to reform the Gender Recognition Act, launched by trans activists in 2021, which attracted 118,000 signatories from England and Wales. By comparing the distribution of signatures to the distribution of the transgender population according to the census, we see that the correlation between the two distributions across all 331 local authorities is close to zero. Brighton and Hove, for example, had more signatories, relative to adult population, than anywhere else except the City of London. Newham and Brent, by contrast, had relatively few signatories, ranking 303rd and 304th respectively.
If places like Newham and Brent had so few inhabitants willing to sign a pro-transgender petition, what accounts for their prominence in the census transgender figures? What these boroughs have are many immigrants for whom English is a second language, and who are therefore liable to be confused by a convoluted question on gender identity. The strongest predictor of the transgender population across 331 local authorities, as measured by the census, is the proportion of people whose main language is not English.
Not all the numbers are contaminated. The census disaggregates the transgender population into five categories. Two of the categories are helpful for determining the number of trans people in a particular area: those who wrote in ‘non-binary’ or some other novel identity like ‘gender queer’, comprising 48,000 respondents. They are distributed geographically much as we would expect, with Brighton and Hove having the largest concentration. It is the remaining three categories which are likely to include some confused non-transgender respondents: trans man, trans woman, and those who specified no identity, totalling 214,000 respondents.
The census data released this week added to the list of anomalies. Muslims are almost three times more likely than non-religious people to identify as transgender. Black people are four times more likely than white people to identify as transgender. In every case, the census results contradict what we know from other data. For example, referrals to the Tavistock’s Gender Identity Development Service include far more white and non-religious youth than the overall population of the same age. By contrast, those census results are what would be expected if a number of people with poor English were confused by the question and inadvertently classified themselves as transgender.
The ONS has also finally this week released customised data showing the tabulation of gender identity by proficiency in English. As predicted, those who speak English ‘not well’ or ‘not well at all’ were most likely to be counted as transgender: 2.2 per cent of them, compared to 0.4 per cent of those whose main language is English (or Welsh in Wales). Adults whose main language is not English made up only 10 per cent of the overall population, but according to the census they contributed 29 per cent of the transgender numbers.
How did the ONS manage to produce such implausible data on gender identity? In ‘a case study of policy capture’, the statisticians were guided by lobby groups like Stonewall. It is surely no coincidence that the gender question replicated, with minor variation, Stonewall’s definition of ‘cisgender’: ‘Someone whose gender identity is the same as the sex they were assigned at birth’.
The question, according to the ONS, was ‘evaluated via community testing at LGBT History Month events’. But did the ONS consider how immigrants whose first language is not English – and who may be blissfully ignorant of esoteric concepts like ‘cisgender’ – might understand the question, or rather could misunderstand it?
The decennial census is the bedrock of British statistics. Errors in data collection not only impede our understanding of society, but also misallocate government funding. Newham Borough Council, for example, will come under pressure to devote more of its budget to the substantial number of trans people recorded by the census, when – if my argument is correct – those numbers have been significantly inflated. The problem does not end with the census, because its question on gender identity has become the default for taxpayer-funded surveys in England and Wales. The errors will ramify for years.
Basically, the actual question in the census was
‘Is the gender you identify with the same as your sex registered at birth?’.
Because this is some woke newspeak double negative bullshit, a lot of people who don't speak twitter answered no and were counted as trans. In particular, uneducated and ESL respondents were found to be more likely to be trans than highly educated and native speakers, and the highest concentrations of trans responses were found in areas with lowest English language competency.
As disability is self ID for census purposes I think we're seeing a double effect here; troons are all ASD ADHD EDS diagnosed by Dr Google and will claim the status, and many actual disabled people have cognitive issues and disrupted education so will struggle with woke word salad and accidentally register themselves as trans .
The slightest common sense statistical analysis would have revealed this but I guess it's stunning and valid that there are more troons in Newham (inner city, deprived area, majority Asian/Muslim) than in Brighton (bougie seaside town, rich, liberal, troon capital of UK).
ETA: Aside from compromising the census, this is a clear demonstration of how 'progressive' language mangling hurts actual marginalised people. Communicating with the general public requires unambiguous plain-language prose with a reading age of about 10.
But it's apparently more important to workshop language at pride events to avoid triggering a genderblob than it is that a refugee woman can understand her pap smear invite or a disadvantaged working class person can participate in public discourse.
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My 'misgendered' search on Twitter is like shooting troons in a barrel in Minecraft.
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Remember that scene from the Office where Andy comes back from anger management and wants everyone to call him Drew but Jim says no and we never hear the name Drew again?
I wish our culture was more like Jim.
I wish our culture was more like Jim.
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I saw a thread on a russian site, with gushing over those gay chinese serials. It was offtop, but, in it, somebody asked what the deal was and, apparently, gay serials do not do the overbloen misunderstandings and general "acting like you are tarded" stuff from the straight stuff.
Also, as a Tumblr veteran of a decade, women are WAY into pornifying things, it is just mostly text. If you compared sheer, uh, amounts, it is probably close by now.
There Is Light At The End
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I think they had a crush when they were little. Just like Timmies trying to be goth girls
Procopius
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"Pronoun pin" is another good hunting ground:
Dealing with the public is a bitch.
So much for allyship. Cue a half hour sob in the loo.
I'm out and proud. But don't tell my mum
The sinister. Scratch a tranny and you've got a good chance of uncovering a paedo
And my favourite. It reminds me of the dance off between the Rocky Horror Show and Priscilla fans Drew Carey did years ago.
LaughJoke2.0
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Speeches, Drum Circles, Vegan Hot Dogs I'm left wing and that sounds like hell.
Real Centaur
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So gender is totally separate from sex and you can change your gender independent of your sex but also this
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
\>tfw i told my mom the name i wanted to choose after i came out, the name she was going go give me had i been born a girl, and she says “Oh, you’re not a Sophie.”
\>tfw i joked with a coworker when i was 5 months hrt saying “when’s the girl coming” and he said “it’s not ever going to happen”
\>tfw my own mom agreeing that i’ll probably never pass
\>tfw the college counsellor trying to refer me to the school’s health center to start hrt, i was 13 months
\>tfw my laser hair removal lady asked me “are you even on any blockers” when i was 16 months hrt
\>tfw a ffs surgeon at my consult believed i was 4 months hrt when i was 15 months hrt, kept saying “oh once you’re on hrt for a while things will fill out”
\>tfw the ffs consult surgeon said “ohhhh ffs isn’t allll about passing, it’s about being happier with your look
”
\>tfw a coworker i used to talk to saw me one day, looked me up and down silently, shook his head, walked away, and never talked to me again. it’s been a year and he hasnt uttered a single word to me
\>tfw i used my 6 months voice training voice in front of a friend and he said “oh yeah that’s terrible” immediately
\>tfw being told “oh you don’t need to pass to be happy! tall women exist” by a literal 5’3 gigayoungshit at the partial hospitalization i was at
\>tfw my coworkers agreeing that there is nothing feminine about me after being gendered female at work, they were confused
\>tfw my therapist said i should honmode because my “size and stature are intimidating”
\>tfw i transitioned at 19 with a 6 foot tall linebacker body
\>tfw 2 years hrt and still never get gendered female
\>tfw i told my mom the name i wanted to choose after i came out, the name she was going go give me had i been born a girl, and she says “Oh, you’re not a Sophie.”
\>tfw i joked with a coworker when i was 5 months hrt saying “when’s the girl coming” and he said “it’s not ever going to happen”
\>tfw my own mom agreeing that i’ll probably never pass
\>tfw the college counsellor trying to refer me to the school’s health center to start hrt, i was 13 months
\>tfw my laser hair removal lady asked me “are you even on any blockers” when i was 16 months hrt
\>tfw a ffs surgeon at my consult believed i was 4 months hrt when i was 15 months hrt, kept saying “oh once you’re on hrt for a while things will fill out”
\>tfw the ffs consult surgeon said “ohhhh ffs isn’t allll about passing, it’s about being happier with your look
” \>tfw a coworker i used to talk to saw me one day, looked me up and down silently, shook his head, walked away, and never talked to me again. it’s been a year and he hasnt uttered a single word to me
\>tfw i used my 6 months voice training voice in front of a friend and he said “oh yeah that’s terrible” immediately
\>tfw being told “oh you don’t need to pass to be happy! tall women exist” by a literal 5’3 gigayoungshit at the partial hospitalization i was at
\>tfw my coworkers agreeing that there is nothing feminine about me after being gendered female at work, they were confused
\>tfw my therapist said i should honmode because my “size and stature are intimidating”
\>tfw i transitioned at 19 with a 6 foot tall linebacker body
\>tfw 2 years hrt and still never get gendered female
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The coworker story is the best one. Just imagining some friendly boomer who had taken this awkward young man under his wing a little, then one day seeing him in a dress and awful makeup and just silently walking away to mourn the future.
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People are unaware pronoun pins are a thing, so they don't look for them.
Never saw one (that I know of) so I searched ...
https://www.google.com/search?q=pronoun+pin&hl=en&tbm=isch
There are even bilingual ones for Canadians.
Need For Sneed
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Colour me COMPLETELY unshocked that this person claims to be starving themselves and “working out all the time” despite looking like a sack of wet cement. These people are just distilled drama to their very core. They skip two meals in a week and suddenly they’re starving themselves and in-recovery anachans. They’re the kind of people who will have to do an emergency stop in their car to avoid a squirrel and spend the ret of their lives talking about the major RTA they’re recovering from.
Why do they all lose their shit when they don’t magically turn into Gigachad or superuwusoftboii Yaoi wet dream after a few months of testosterone when they looked like a pudding took human form to begin with? Most cis men don‘t look like that, what makes you think you LARPing as the opposite sex is going to look like that? Get a grip.
LaughJoke2.0
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Okay everything is a social construct by agreeing that a tree is a tree, and a dog is a dog vs being a cat we have entered into a social agreement and thus the social construct argument is idiotic.
Sex and Gender are interchange words meaning the same thing as Female and Woman or Male and Man. A doctor tells expecting parents the sex of their baby and the parents have a GENDER reveal. Gender at birth is based off what your sexual organs are, or you know genitalia wait genitalia gender wonder if there is a connection in the language oh wait there is.
If gender was solely a social construct, then changing the physical body through drugs, hormones, and surgeries wouldn't be called "Gender Affirming Care". Because if a man can have a vagina and a woman can have a penis then going from an Innie to an Outie or vice versa shouldn't affect gender and hence wouldn't be gender affirming.
Trying to claim Gender and Sex are separate things is just troons trying to gaslight society into accepting them.
Tau Tack
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How ironic that the best attempt to introduce a gender neutral pronoun into a highly gendered language results in one that’s pronounced ‘yell’.People are unaware pronoun pins are a thing, so they don't look for them.
Never saw one (that I know of) so I searched ...
https://www.google.com/search?q=pronoun+pin&hl=en&tbm=isch
There are even bilingual ones for Canadians.
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Real Centaur
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Yeah I guess it wasn't clear but I agree that it's a nonsense premise.
The point is that that's what they believe - except in that study that was quoted, where they ask if your gender is the same as your birth sex, which contradicts that entire "gender != sex" thing. Which is to say, people who support the trans cause contradict themselves and the whole ideology is just devolving into word salad now.
Gunter Hatherer
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The poet thinks this is a "W", but I opine otherwise.
Adults try to be polite, but you can't fool little kids.
Adults try to be polite, but you can't fool little kids.
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If this is how he reacts to a child pointing it out, what will he do when he realises every single other person is thinking the same thing?
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