Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

I don't know if there's a name for this kind of speech pattern (going off on wild barely-associated tangents based on whatever pops up in your brain, and assuming that it makes sense to everyone) but if this man is not abusing uppers I will eat my hat.

It has an easy to remember clinical name: tangential speech.

As you'll see on the link it isn't specific to any particular diagnosis or drug abuse disorder, but can be part of a lot of things.

On that note, reading up on thought disorder in general will be helpful in analyzing internet weirdos.

 

[KiwiFuzz]

Loose association is another term.

 

[BBChannel]

Another Brassard client victim, in their own words, is experiencing "bad wound dehiscence with fecal matter discharge", and while complications like this seem to be an everyday occurrence for most post-op troons, this dude seems to have gotten it worse than usual even:

Utter nightmare fuel. Jesus Fucking Christ. Someone new to the thread definitely shouldn't look at that.
Fucker had fetid dick come out of his festering ax-wound. I wouldn't be surprised if this validates him by claiming his amhole self cleans because it removed the necro skin.

I'm surprised the thread wasn't archived yet, so. (A)

 

[Gimme the skinny]

Has there been a case of an actual woman shitting out her vagina? Never heard of it

 

[sanguis draconis]

I agree. They have pee fetishes, I see no other explanation.

I don't think it's even a fetish as such (as a necessity for sexual arousal), as much as an obsessive-compulsive fixation with these broads. Exulansic calls it a "trans-rite", and while I'm the first to admit that a lot of what she says is bullshit, she really nailed this one, IMO. They fixate on it because it's been hammered into their heads that they have to in order to be true 'n' honest.

There's more than 1k erotic stories on AO3 about trans man that involve urination apparently, and there's a flair for it on r/ftmspunished with a lot of posts. I've had an ftm I interacted with confessing to the fetish before too. It might not be the only reason but it IS a reason, at least it seems to be more common than I originally believed before this thread made me awarw of how weird pooners are about peeing.

Also the article stated that 'McIndoe Vaginoplasty' was used. Which suggests that there are some scientific forgery similar to David Reimer's phimosis, which cannot be diagnosed as a baby because little boy's foreskin usually cannot be pulled back at that age.

Yeah, those 4 cases were specifically said to be "treatments" for botched circumcisions, in fact I found them on the notes of a paper talking ABOUT circumcision because I was looking at a cis man that got a phallo and the cause was a botched circumcision almost exactly like David Reiner's case (there are different methods and some are more likely to cause consequences).

Maybe they seem overepresented here though because, since they lost their penis as babies they are more likely to accept getting a phallo since they don't remember having the genuine article?

This is a disgusting fetish, and her faux concern regarding the appropriateness of the posts really seals it for me. You know it's gross and makes people uncomfortable, and if you were at all worried, you degenerate pooner, you wouldn't post it.

On one hand, I definitely agree with what you're saying. On the other, it is very interesting seeing those parts of the surgeries we can't really find anywhere else, like some horrifying look into more "daily life issues" that you won't find from a medical book?

Yesterday, Dr Powers made a pretty odd post on the /r/detrans subreddit. [Archive] [Unddit Archive] [Older archive with replies not hidden]

Holy shit, I hope he keeps posting. Methinks the good doctor will be shipped off to take the rest cure for his "nervous exhaustion" soon. I hope whomever employs him has been regularly auditing their drug stocks.

There's actually some interesting observations he's been making in his patients that he talks about (the caveat that since his other stories seem to be somewhat exaggerated take with a grain of sauce).

First he has a fixation on MTHFR mutations, he's just made a post where he talks about his whole theory with it:

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Have Gender Dysphoria? Hypermobile? ADHD or Autism? POTS? IBS? Hashimotos? Give methylated B vitamins a try!
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Actively working on the paper, but so far, I continue to get back positive MTHFR mutations in my transgender patients at a rate that's just astounding.
I myself have a bunch of components of the 6p21 syndrome (pinned post on the top of the sub), And I ran a full genomic sequencing on myself.
Wouldn't you know it, I have two bad copies of the MTHFR gene.
I immediately started myself on L-Methylfolate and Methylcobalamin.
Within 7 days, my mental health improved considerably, my Adderall works way better than it did for years, and I have a decreased need for sleep and overall sense of wellness. It had a large impact on my brain. I don't know where else it's going to show up in my body and give me some sort of benefit but this was readily apparent at the beginning.
Considering that I have so many transgender people that I've tested so far and nearly every single one has this mutation (seems about 98% come back positive) I'm going to make the suggestion that if you have the ability, get tested for this if you have gender dysphoria.
There is an additional benefit if you have it, because you will not be aware of the fact that you have an elevated homocysteine.
I recently had a non-binary/gender non-conforming AFAB patient with autism and ADHD that I saw for a physical. I ordered the lab on her because she fit many of the criteria of my "syndrome". Came back positive, and not only positive, her homocysteine value was over 160.
A normal value is about 10 or less. Without getting too much into the details, the best way I can describe homocysteine is sort of a spiked morning star like metal ball that just bounces around inside of your arteries and runs into LDL particles and pops them open and spreads that grease all over the inside. (That is a gross over simplification but it gets the point across)
This young person was walking around with a astronomically high inflammatory protein in their blood and they had no idea. Simply taking a special vitamin fixes it.
If you don't have the ability to get the blood test to confirm whether or not you have the mutation, you could try this if you wish by simply ordering the vitamins on Amazon and giving it a go for a month.
That being said, for the friend I mentioned previously with type 3 EDS that got better? It took nearly 6 months for those effects to show up. Her defect wasn't in sex hormone synthesis, it was in collagen synthesis, and so it took that long for collagen turnover to be laid down better and for her to perceive the difference. It was not instant.
Your mileage may vary, but if you end up looking at that list of 6p21 stuff and you think "wow I've got a lot of these" I would suggest either getting tested or trying the vitamin as a trial. It's pretty cheap, and in good conscience, I can't continue to keep this a secret as I work on the paper because I genuinely think this is going to help a lot of people.
I do have a theory that if given early enough in life, treatment with this may actually resolve gender dysphoria and people who are having a mild enzymatic sex hormone synthesis mutation amplified by this other mutation. I'm not sure yet, I've not been doing this long enough to see whether that affects anybody or not. I also have no idea at what point it would stop working or if it even works at all. But if somebody does try this, and their gender dysphoria spontaneously resolves, please do let me know. I'm actively collecting as much data on this right now as I can as I unravel the genetics behind it. Thankfully, I have some help, and a very very intelligent woman who helped me put the pieces together and make sense of all of the correlations I was seeing has been absolutely astoundingly supportive as we go through the process of trying to make this thing real and get it published.
As a side note, the two publications I've recently submitted with other doctors are currently in review and I am hoping they will be approved soon for publication. As soon as they are, I will link them here. I'm really looking forward to seeing the fertility restoration paper be out there in the world.

There's also this response where he says (of the doctors prescribing HRT) "If these people do not even understand the basic tenets of biochemistry of the human body, why are we allowing them to do this care? This is a board certified endocrinologist who says that and it is literally factually incorrect. You can look it up. It's terrifying to me."

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I'm sorry to tell you this but you're endocrinologist was just really wrong. It's terrifying to me how many of them just do not understand the biochemistry behind it.
The head of one of the top UK gender programs puts out this whole document on how they do hormone therapy, and one of the things they say is that if you inject too much estrogen it will be counterproductive and turn back into testosterone.
This is literally just false. Humans do not have a de-aromatase enzyme, but yet, this document that they put out is linked all over the internet and followed by clinics all over the country and in other countries as well. I even saw it puppeted in the guidelines for hormone treatment for inmates in an American jail system. I shit you not. If these people do not even understand the basic tenets of biochemistry of the human body, why are we allowing them to do this care? This is a board certified endocrinologist who says that and it is literally factually incorrect. You can look it up. It's terrifying to me.
See if you can find someone else locally that can just write you for spironolactone or bica. You don't need an endocrinologist for that, any family doctor worth their salt will understand why that's necessary. Even if the testosterone is out of your system or not, it will help, it will decelerate facial hair growth and additionally sensitize your estrogen receptors and help the refeminization process occur. Many patients that are FTMTF have elevated androgens naturally, they have too many high male hormones to begin with. Without any hormone therapy on board. So even if you had the testosterone totally out of your system, it still might be very beneficial.
You are most welcome for the reply, I'm just here to help people. I really hope I can convince people of that. I know they're angry at people like me, and I'm trying to make up for the mistakes we've made as a medical culture.

And this post talking about getting backlash from other HRT docs, including them telling him he's "experimenting on children", for trying to mitigate the lack of genital development of boys on puberty blockers (it's still unnerving that he doesn't just leave the kids alone, but to see the way they treat each other if they go even a little bit against the negative is really something else):
(editing to say, I saw this got posted but since kiwifarms isn't loading all the pics in the original post I'm leaving it for the copypaste, I think the other ones weren't posted before)

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lem0ngirl15

I personally encourage you to speak some sense into other professionals in your field that you are noticing that something is not right here. But Im a bit off put by how your answer to detrans people is more médicalisation.

Drwillpowers
Well, I have been. But unfortunately, that has basically just done nothing but get me ostracized.
As an example, I was in a online group for transgender clinicians, and I mentioned the jazz Jennings case.
For my MTF patients, I developed a very low dose topical testosterone that can be used to restore genital function. They can maintain genital function despite being on feminizing hormone therapy and if someone wants to go about bottom surgery, having normally developed and non-atrophic tissue is very important.
It's not like this has never been done before, a similar treatment is used to treat micropenis, or boys with noonan syndrome.
I suggested that perhaps my colleagues consider this option for their patients, because allowing these kids to never undergo normal genital development is a bad idea both if they continue on hormone therapy or if they don't.
For my kids on blockers, I do this. Because I don't want them to not undergo normal genital development and have dysfunctional sexual activity in their adulthood.
I was immediately ostracized and told "trans genitals are normal genitals" and banned from the group for talking about experimenting on children.
I think you can see the irony here. These are treatments that are already done to cisgender children to help them develop into normal adults. Suggesting that we could do such a thing to transgender children was met with literal hostility and my immediate banning from the group.
I have been trying to communicate my concerns to my colleagues, but no one wants to hear them.
I don't mean to be triggering to anyone in this group by talking about how some patients do benefit from this therapy, because clearly everyone here did not. And I understand that completely and I by no means am encouraging people to transition. Quite the opposite, I try and actually correct any possible thing that I can find before HRT and consider transition the last resort for people who have not started HRT.
My answer to detrans people is more medicalization, simply because without it, many of you will not actually get back to where you began.
We have tattoo removal machines for a reason. People get tattoos, they make mistakes, they decide they don't want them, and so we have the ability to remove them. I don't really think of this as any ethically different than that. If someone ultimately decides the transition isn't for them, and it is not helping them, and maybe even hurting them, It is literally my duty as a physician to try and do everything I can to help that person. Not medicalizing that problem is denying the fact that there is a problem. That they have a medical issue that went unaddressed.
In addition, getting to the bottom of why they felt the transition was the right thing for them in the first place is absolutely essential, because many of these people have a lot of different reasons why they seek transition that still need treatment.
When I see young women who have undergone transition because they were victims of sexual violence, and they don't want to be women anymore, simply stopping the hormone therapy isn't enough for them. They need treatment of the underlying problem, which is the psychological wound that caused them to feel that way in the first place. Denying that they need that treatment, or acting like that is medicalization I think is foolish. The same goes for not helping someone refeminize their body or remasculinize their body if that's what they desire. I think pushing anyone to do anything with their body is wrong, and I'm not ever going to do that on this subreddit. I'm the very rare physician who is against compulsory vaccination. I think people have the right to control their own bodies. They get to choose what goes into them. But abandoning people, who made a bad call or got some bad advice from a medical provider and accidentally transitioned to their own devices seems if anything more cruel than transitioning them in the first place. We have a duty to try and undo the damage that we did, and then help these people heal from whatever brought them to us in the first place.

Also, he might have gone to a decent school, but it was still a DO (doctor of osteopathic medicine) program, not an MD. I know the osteopathic medicine people are very invested in claiming their education and qualifications are just as good, if not better than their "allopathic" rivals, but I think some scepticism regarding that assertion is justifiable. There's almost always a reason people choose a DO program, and it's not often because they actually think it's better.

He really seems to think he's some super genius. I guess if you're surrounded by other HRT clinicians it's not that hard to feel like the smartest dumbass in the room?

And here's a picture of what came out of him. I suspect his patchwork neovagina graft just essentially failed to take, went necrotic inside his rotpocket, and eventually fell out on its own:

Hey, might we be so lucky as to see a case of a neovagina actually closing shut like a wound if the skin lining's all gone?

(obviously it's a minor detail,but it's weird how smooth his ballsack skin looks compared to most other amholes, must be really swolled I guess?)

 

[GenociderSyo]

Has there been a case of an actual woman shitting out her vagina? Never heard of it

It's a bit more common in third world countries especially those that involved pregnancy or female genital mutation. There are a few documentaries about how poorly their lives are and how shunned they become due to their odor, etc.

 

[Gimme the skinny]

It's a bit more common in third world countries especially those that involved pregnancy or female genital mutation. There are a few documentaries about how poorly their lives are and how shunned they become due to their odor, etc.

Sounds about right especially how brutal pregnancy can be for these women I feel for them only

 

[Tard Whisperer]

The phalloplasty journey (so far) of Julie aka Jaymie "trans-0l0gy". She is 33, completed 4 tours in the Air Force, and now works at Ikea. She decided to be trans after leaving the Air Force. She started hormones Nov 6 2020. Top surgery March 30 2021.

Nov 2 2021 - top surgery 2, removing excess skin

• She was out of work for 8.5 weeks for the first top surgery, first 3 weeks were hell due to the drains, she says she couldn't eat or stand from nausea for 2 weeks and lost like 20 lbs. Then she was on restriction at work for 3 months.
• At the 6 month visit to check in after the first surgery they realized there was excess skin that needed to be fixed.
• of course she says without her friends supporting her so she could get top surgery, she would have died
• She says she has "really bad PTSD" from the AirForce -- "I can't do blood but I can do everything else." She couldn't empty her drains without being in shock, so her friend would come over and do it for her and stay with her if she was having nightmares.

Dec 21 2022- Top surgery #3

• She says she revision top surgery Nov 3 2021, now she's having a third surgery because her left breast is retaining liquid. she also mentioned an infection
• she can't sleep, she thinks she is too worn out from surgeries - after her top surgery she had a bone infection in October, then the first surgery revision in November. "This is the ugly side of transitioning that no one really talks about."
• She has drains coming out of her breast and has to record how much liquid is coming out. She says she will sleep with the bag of her blood safetypinned to her shorts. "So that's what you do have to look forward to when you have top surgery, this one was mild compared to the first one, the first one was hell.
• Post surgery: Leaves hospital with drains and wraps, then switched to a compression vest.
• "My full transition would be everything from head to toe, that for me would realize my ultimate goal to be my authentic self"

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Dating as a trans male

• "I grew up in Asian culture where the male does basically nothing" around the house. Then moved to Germany at 7 years old, where "people empowered you to be whatever you want to be regardless of your sex." She had to work for a while to get macho-ness out of her system.
• She has been in the military since 17 years old, where she says she was "trained not to feel" so she has to "actively bring herself to feel" and respond to things. Feelings don't make sense to her. She describes an example of this is seeing a lady drop things in the grocery store, she has to remind herself to think through the situation and whether to help out or not and what to say. I am not quite sure how this fits her description of "not feeling" something. I wonder if she is describing dissociation or numbness? So, she decided to not date because she is so dead inside. (My words, not hers.)
• She says people think she's very cold because she is so busy reminding herself to react (???).
• "Whenever I was younger I knew I liked girls, but I liked girls as a guy not a girl."
• She was very depressed the first couple of months on T because of the 'water fat'?

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Jan 3, 2022: Time for phalloplasty!

• She chose her phalloplasty surgeon, Dr. Sumanas Jordan. She is impressed by Dr. Jordan because she did some of her residency in Thailand, "which is really known for gender-affirming surgeries and is probably one of the best in the world, other than it being cheap."
• She met Dr Jordan and "we vibed, and that was the biggest thing."
• She met with a "Gender Pathway person from Northwestern" to make sure you know what you want to do and know what you're getting yourself into.
• She chose phalloplasty over metoidioplasty because she was pretty sure that if she got metoidioplasty she'd want phallo eventually anyway so she thought she'd just get it all in one go. She wants RFF because she says it is most likely to retain sensation.
• She gets reimbursed for electrolysis through insurance.
• "I'm going to have a fully functioning ding-a-ling. Which means it can go up, it can penetrate, it can virtually do everything except 2 things: can't get someone pregnant and can't ejaculate, that's pretty much it."
• She says she did a lot of research, thought about this long and hard to make sure she knows it's what she wants, she wants to do it to complete the process of becoming male.
• She estimated the full cost of her phalloplasty will be close to $500,000.

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Spoiler: Julie's life on the way to phalloplasty

Detransition?

• In this video she seems very impacted by an article by a detransitioner. She says the article pissed her off because the detransitioner described being shuffled along through treatments and her other issues being ignored. To Julie this is ridiculous because she waited a whole month to get an appointment, where she was prescribed T on first visit without a therapist letter. She asked him why he didn’t need a letter, he said “by the time the person gets to him they already know who they are.” She says it’s ridiculous for the detransitioner to have felt pushed along in transition because she has to talk with this professional every month and answer questions.
• “I'm my own gatekeeper when it comes to my body” “why would you not speak up when it comes to your own body?”
• She is mad that detransitioner is “putting it back on lgbt community” because “it’s your responsibility to do your own research” “it took me a year to make a call [to start transition treatment] because I wanted to make sure it was what I want.”
• Now she says she needs bottom surgery to feel whole “it all goes back to self esteem and all of that”. She needs bottom surgery because she didn’t ask a girl out because she felt insecure. “That incident showed me I’m doing the right thing when it comes to myself.”
• “Bottom surgery is going to give me what I need for myself to give myself fully to someone else.” But “once you get to the point of no return, like I am, detransition is not an option.” “You really have to know yourself to go through this journey”
• “I still have to think about the what-if”

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more background & grandmother's death

• When moving from Thailand to Germany she was adopted by a Scottish guy named Tyler Jamieson who has 2 other daughters. She lost touch with him because he was an alcoholic and drank pretty much all day long. She says that he used the money from adoption and his disability money on drugs and alcohol while she had to walk to school in the winter without a jacket.
• Last year she wrote him a letter to get the address of her grandmother, she sent the grandmother a postcard and she returned one back and addressed Julie as "Mr," then passed away less than 2 weeks after Julie got the letter. She said that Julie and her nephew were "the only males that were going to carry on her name"
• "If a 90 year old woman can gender me correctly, why can't some other people in my life?"

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Preparing for phalloplasty:

• she says that since the age of 3 she was never comfortable with any of her body parts -- not just sex characteristics, but everything. "you don't have to be trans to have gender dysphoria". says "it is not a mental illness, it is all biological."
• If you don't do the 'inner works' before transition you will need to do it during transition, she says she has figured out her 'inner works' but is still overwhelmed. "I've been on four tours, almost died countless times, this by far is the most nerve-wracking thing, emotional thing, death defying thing I ever had to do." "If you know me, you know that I'm a dare devil." Telling people to fuck off if they talk shit to her, ask her dumb questions, like if she's okay "because I'm not and you know that I'm not." "I'm not depressed, I'm really not."
• "I'm still grieving the person that I was, while she was gracefully handing the baton over to someone else, she's all that I've ever known, so I"m terrified" to be her new self
• "It's literally mourning a person who has died, and it's funny because it's the person inside the same person, it's me!"
• She stopped talking to her psychiatrist because she doesn't want to take anymore medications. "My PTSD is pretty much under control."
• "I often refer to her as another person because when I look in the mirror I don't see her anymore, I see me for the first time" which finally happened for the first time this past week, she had been working on this for a while. Because she has finally dealt with her trauma.
• "for 30+ years she endured this idea of Jaymie so she could get me where I am today" "She's done miracles for me and I could never thank her enough" "The idea of a great man came from her"

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March 28 2022: Phalloplasty stage 1 with Dr. Jordan and Dr Jordan.

• They had the surgery room booked for 6 hours and she ended up going under for 13 hours.
• She was in the hospital for 10 days. She had an infection which she says is to be expected when you think about it “they’re making a whole new organ, what are the chances to not have any infection at all?”
• Donor site “looks like something out of a horror movie” or when you have mostly eaten a T bone steak.
• She was sent home with a wound vac and catheter.
• She says the recovery is rough, she hasn’t been able to eat since the surgery because of the nausea, so she has lost a lot of weight since surgery
• “you need to be very mentally strong to go through this surgery”
• She has to inject herself with a blood thinner daily
• “Stuff I didn’t expect after phalloplasty is how ugly it actually looks” but also it’s “the most liberating thing in the world”
• “The biggest thing is the mental struggle” of having to haul all her medical supplies along when she moves, but it doesn’t hurt very much.

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April 25 2022: phalloplasty stage 2, glansplasty and skin graft from leg to arm.

• next and final stage “assuming there’s no complications” is 6 months to a year from this surgery, to put erectile pump in. The surgeon said they make a small hole and “shove the pump in”. Her thoughts: “at this point I try to make a joke out of it because it’s not worth it for me to overanalyze it, I’ve learned with this recovery that nothing can go according to plan.”
• She reports she was told there is a 50/50 chance of glansplasty being successful.
• This recovery is by far the worst physically she’s had so far.
• She reveals the suprapubic catheter is supposed to stay with her for 1 year. “It’s really not that bad” “nothing too serious”.
• 64 days post op: she was able to start working out today.
• She didn’t used to be able to extend her arm but now can almost fully extend it.
• PT was delayed for 3 weeks so she is working her arm out her own way. She shows that her hand is still swollen and has limited range of mobility.
• She still isn’t sure about the type of erectile device she wants.
• She was restricted to lifting 10lbs but she says she is doing more than that.
• She scolds cis male friends for asking about her phallo size.

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August 12, 2022 - "It’s been a rough few months".

• She is 3 weeks away from another surgery to fix the urethra in tip of penis which has been causing a split stream when she pees and loosen scar in her arm because it’s still stiff.
• Her advice: “mental health is the #1 thing you should be focusing on” to prepare for surgery. “This journey is very lonely and stressful, it wears you down” “I’m with me 24/7”
• She complains about tiktok troons hating on her for quickly getting her surgeries. “How is that my fault? I’m just using what was given to me.” Also says they are hating on her for being buff in 3 years on T “just because I’ve been going to the gym for a week and I look like a fucking Arnold jr.”
• She also is going to have her surgeon fix her top surgery again because she thinks there was too much tissue left over and it looks too much like a breast.

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Aug 22, 2022: a few days after phallo surgery 3

• She had an emergency surgery after developing "what looked like a heat rash" and painful uriniation, but doesn't really detail what exactly they did.
• She hasn’t gone back to work since and needs an iron infusion.
• The suprapublic catheter and hauling around her urine bag is getting to her. she spends most of her day in bed, watching tv playing video games. It wakes her up during the night due to pain. The catheter “feels like someone is constantly poking your belly button and it goes down to your phallus.”
• “Mentally I’m trying to stay strong and positive but it’s hard right now” “I knew what I got myself into when I started this journey but it’s one thing to prepare for the multiple surgeries and turns and corrections, it’s a whole nother ball game when you’re actually going through it”
• “I can feel myself slipping into depression” “nothing anything says helps me”
• “there’s no way you can relate to the pain I’m going through or level of mental state of mind that I’m in”

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Sept 22, 2022 - Fourth top surgery, fourth phallo surgery

• It was almost a 9 hour surgery.
• They performed a second urethroplasty and removed skin tags and part of phallo that was pushing on the urethra. Dr Bowan’s portion was 6 hrs. Dr Jordan fixed chest: made nipples smaller, fixed dog ears, and fixed her arm. She spent 3 nights in the hospital this time.
• They had to take skin from the mouth, after surgery was a square of 1x1 inch swollen inside her front lip. She “woke up with gauze in my mouth and had no idea what was happening to me.”
• She will be getting stitches out of her arm, it needed to be stitched up because she reached for a glass of water while in the hospital and the arm split open. So she had to get extra strong non dissolvable stitches.
• The top surgery repair so far doesn’t look like she wants it to, and is thinking about another revision.
• She asked Dr Bowan if her issues are common, Dr Bowan said that it is and they she is trying to push Dr Jordan to have the urethra already created before the procedure. - I’m not sure what she means here, maybe what they did with Ashton? (which failed)
• “I’m not saying they did anything wrong, everyone heals different”
• “I keep getting tonsillitis on top of the UTIs”
• “transitioning is hard, transitioning is lonely”
• She still has the suprapublic catheter.
• But “the dedication these surgeons have for you at Northwestern is unheard of, I am blessed”.

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Spoiler: phallosex

Julie and her girlfriend talk about sex with a phallo.

• The girlfriend reports sex is “less painful” “because it’s not as hard”.
• Girlfriend says she thinks it will feel “comparable” to a cis man once the device is in. “certain things we cannot do because it’s not hard”
• Girlfriend says “performance wise, pleasantly surprised” and she had no expectations going in.
• Her advice to other couples: “communication is key, be open, it’s really not that different, it’s all about angles”
• Girlfriend says “it’s been a more positive experience for me than with cis men” because of communication “about what’s working for both of us not just you”, and “stamina”

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February 21, 2023- she had urethral scope, will need to remove a tag of scar tissue.

• The surgeon had tried to burn off the fistula in a last procedure but it is still there. That past procedure “was not fun, smelled like burning flesh and I had ashes in my underwear.”
• “it was almost a full year I was out of work” but she can now do push-ups and pull-ups again. Her arm still hurts at work and swells depending on what she does.
• She developed a rash around the fistula which caused a bacterial infection. I’m starting to think she’s getting these infections and rashes due to lack of hygiene… The surgeon injected 3 needles worth of steroids into donor site, she needs to do 2-3 rounds of this.
• On phalloplasty: “overall, 10 out of 10”.
• The skin graft was worst pain she’s ever felt.
• “Who would choose this? I’d have surgery somewhere else before I ever had it on my genitals again. Not to say it wasn’t worth every trip to the hospital, all the pain… I didn’t choose this, it was life or death”
• “I still have body dysphoria, gender dysphoria not as much”

Spoiler: video

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March 8 2023 - phallo surgery 5

• They removed skin tag under “scrotum” and skin under the tip because her stream was going to the side. Currently the stream is straight but could change when healed. “we don’t know why the skin tag keeps coming back but hopefully this is the last of it”
• She is taking antibiotics 4x per day and it is “tearing up my stomach”.
• She received bills for $23000 and $4000, not sure how much she’ll have to pay because she’s had an insurance mix up. She will be out of work for 2 weeks this time.
• 5 days post op: It’s now easier to stand to pee, before she could only do it 10% of the time due to her stream issues. Currently peeing “feels normal.”

Spoiler: video

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Now only 1 year until she can get her final surgery for realsies this time!

 

[Adhesive Pockets]

Has there been a case of an actual woman shitting out her vagina? Never heard of it

Yes, after a natural delivery if there's a tear in the vagina, or if the episiotomy is too deep that the vagina and rectum are cut at the same time. Sometimes is a complication after radiotherapy in that area.

 

[Golden Face]

i went on the metoidioplasty reddit, because i hate myself.

Spoiler: ouch

https://www.reddit.com/r/Metoidioplasty/comments/12dhy3f/update_52_weeks_another_complication/

Spoiler: copy/paste

So this Monday was the first day I stayed fully clothed all day long. By the end of it, I was in a lot of pain again. Once I got it down, it was clear I'd formed an HS abscess just below the surgical site. It left me with very little in a way to treat it since it was so close.

I went to my dermatologist yesterday. She had to lance it, so now I have an additional wound to deal with. Otherwise, she said everything else is healing fine. No signs of infection other than that one spot. I'm on stronger antibiotics for 2 weeks to a month depending on how things heal up.

I'm back in bed, yet again while the new bottom wound heals up. I'm getting pretty annoyed with my body. I'm glad the surgery site is doing well, and my big open wound is now two separate smaller wounds. However, my body is clearly very mad about all this. Hopefully this is my last complication.

 

[Sissyagamben]

i went on the metoidioplasty reddit, because i hate myself.

archived it for u

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I've been reading the TIME TO THINK on Tavistock by Hannah Barnes and here's some interesting excerpts. Most of the stuffs about trans kids and hormones were shocking, but not surprising to me at all, being over-exposed to this damn thread. Majority of the things are also mentioned here, but I'd imagine an unsuspected normie will want to throw up reading it.

Here's some totally unsurprising things some of the (real) doctors say about bone density and hormone blockers:

1. Retarded medical paper tries to argue there's no need for yearly bone mineral density scans for kids being put on hormone blockers, and accidentally reveals horrifying side effect. There conclusion was the "there was no significant change in overall bone mineral density for this group of young people." Endocrinologists says "the fact that there is no significant change in bone density should be worrying...puberty is usually a time of rapid bone-mass accrual."
2. Oxford professor on analyzing the data in the same paper: "compared to their non puberty-blocked peers, their bone density was very low. 'Up to a third of patients had abnormally low bone density, in the lowest 2.3% of the distribution for their sex and age...A few patients recorded extremely low values, in the lowest 0.13% of the distribution."
3. A senior physician with decade of experiences says he has never perviously seen osteoporosis in an otherwise healthy young man. He not just worried about the osteoporosis, but that "the young person does not seem to be concerned about it. " He says "the only thing that mattered was transitioning...If osteoporosis doesn't matter to someone receiving puberty blockers, then they probably shouldn't be receiving them."

 

[Rupin]

Spoiler: NSFW

I wish this wasn’t real.

 

[Haesindang Park]

Wow... All of this yet it doesn't convince some people that trooning out means living a life of pain and misery. How do they still not get it?

 

[74164978231]

The FtM who posted the question is 5'1, by the way. Where do they keep finding all these tiny Gaydens?

Why am I not surprised at this troon's posting history?

Has there been a case of an actual woman shitting out her vagina? Never heard of it

Vagina's can prolapse. Not exactly an uncommon occurance for elderly women's vaginas to "fall out".

 

[2525ABC]

Vagina's can prolapse. Not exactly an uncommon occurance for elderly women's vaginas to "fall out".

(note I have only seen this in animals...)
A vaginal prolapse just looks as if a vagina was turned inside out like a sock. The tissue is pink and healthy and alive but the internal supports have failed and the whole thing is easy to push back inside. Getting it to stay there is not so easy.
For even a shadow of the body horror above you'd need something like a particularly severe Stevens Johnson syndrome ( a catastrophic immune reaction where the body decides to slough all skin because it got scared of an infection) but even that is just skin/mucosa.
Real vagina is incredibly resilient tissue with abundant blood supply and a natural antiseptic system so the healing ability is amazing (man-kiwis and fortunate women: think of how well you heal after oral surgery and that isn't even close). So it's really hard to imagine a situation whereby a woman could have chunks of necrotic vag flesh falling out and that isn't the least of her problems.

 

[gampboonerisms]

Has there been a case of an actual woman shitting out her vagina? Never heard of it

When i was around 20-27, women loved to tell me "dont pick that up, let a man do that". They werent worried about my back, they had to tell me about the possibility of the uterus falling out. I really didnt want to hear that in my 20s, so i learned proper lift techniques and told them to stuff it. There was one woman (a coworker of my mother) who had her uterus detach and had to have it tacked back up.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/uterine-prolapse/symptoms-causes/syc-20353458

 

[Joshi_zarna]

Indian trannies with what looks like DIY "pussies"

Spoiler: Tranny DIY

 

[sum ting wong]

Indian trannies with what looks like DIY "pussies"

Spoiler: Tranny DIY

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I have a theory that the reason Indians are always so loud is because they've crammed 1.4 billion people into a country that's 1/3 the size of the US. So the only way for them to hear each other is to yell louder than every other person that's also trying to yell over each other. Anyway, I doubt either of them have seen a vagina before because they chopped their dick off and replaced it with nothing. If the opium high ever ends, they're gonna be in a lot of pain.

 

[muhpronouns]

Indian trannies with what looks like DIY "pussies"

Spoiler: Tranny DIY

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I'm am going to imagine he saying something along the lines of "Our pussies are so much better than cis womens'. Look at that. Even a gyno can't tell."

 

[Daddy's Little Kitten]

If you can't get vagene, you become vagene.