Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Creep3r]

Man, this post hits really damn hard seeing it 3 years before.
Question: Because wookiepedia is so fucking shit, is there a decent wiki for SW at this point?

Since no one's answered this one yet...

As far as I can tell, there doesn't seem to be any good alternatives. The few that exist are woefully empty. But the most notable one I could find was the Datacron Continuity Base which is independent and free of Fandom shit.

https://datacrondatabase.com/Welcome_to_the_Datacron_Continuity_Database!

The problem with it is that aside from being very barren, they have plans to incorporate the final season of Filoni Wars into their wiki at some point. However, the guy who runs it claims that he intends to have ALL of Filoni's Clone Wars "redefined" to better fit with pre-Disney lore, which I assume means serious abridging, a lot of trimming and what I can only guess is headcanon rewriters. No idea how that might work out since personally the best thing to do would be to just leave it out entirely or treat it as fiction within fiction and keep certain events from it constrained to their own articles much like old Wookieepedia used to do with Infinities or ambiguously canon articles.

There's also the sweu wiki which completely excludes all Filoni and Disney content, but its woefully empty.
https://starwarseu.fandom.com/
That and since its on Fandom, they're going to get fucked over eventually.

There's also other fuller "non-disney" wikis, like the SWcombine wiki for the game mod of the same name and the Star Wars Legends wiki, but they kept adding shit from Disney as time went on because they believe it can all fit together with a bit shitload of fanfic headcanon grease, creating an inconsistent mess that left their wikis empty. And the few others have also given in because they love Ahsoka too much (hence my increased hate for the character over the years) and want to cover anything she's in because "they can't leave her fate unresolved!" (imagine sacrificing an entire setting and wiki for just one character) and others who didn't have that intent have been taken over by Disneyphiles who preach the same thing. Even the dutch one.

Resulting in those sites becoming abandoned since they became no different than wookieepedoa. There's also the slavic Star Wars wiki which still incorporates disney shit, but unlike wookieepedoa, they prioritize non-Disney material and insert condescending remarks into the Disney articles, along with having a very anti-tranny sentiment which has led to them being blacklisted by the cucks at Wookieepedoa and FANDOM, and I wouldn't be surprised if their whole site gets deleted eventually, so they're just cucking themselves in the long run by staying on FANDOM.

@Dixieland Buckaroo also got a hold of a pre-Disney archive of Wookieepedia and handed it over to someone called Darth Dix who may be working on a non-woke and non-Disney SW wiki that may or may not exclude Filoni Wars and maybe SWTOR.


Aside from that there's really not much else that I know of at least. Only other thing I could mention is maybe https://www.jediholo.net/ which isn't really a wiki per se but a site for a massive in-development mod made for the Jedi Academy game and it only has a small archive on certain subjects which is slowly expanding. Again, its not a wiki and not very useful in that regard, however I find it charming because they write everything from an in-universe perspective and they try to serve as a fanmade sequel to Dark Horse's SW Legacy comics, being set four-hundred years after the original trilogy but with no disney baggage. But the main reason I personally visit it is for the amusing in-universe Holonet news articles they write. They also have a surprisingly game-accurate interface.

It seems a lot of these wiki projects end up falling apart due to being unable to find a compromise with Filoni pups who insist anything with Ahsoka in it is of utmost importance and cannot be ignored.

 

[Power Glove]

They returned Grogu to Din, ruining two season's worth of build up, just to sideline them on their own show. It's absolutely hilarious.

Din sidelined Boba Fett on his own show, so it is comeuppance in a strange sort of way. I'm surprised there wasn't an announcement that Bo-Katan was getting her own show, only to be sidelined on that one in the second season for the first troon Jedi of some new splinter order that mysteriously popped up because everything goes when you stop giving a shit about anything.

 

[Jaimas]

This is making the rounds, and I think it's fake.
All right, nix that. I hope fervently to god that this is fake, because I don't want to believe that we've finally arrived at the dumbest timeline.


Supposedly, this image is from a scene in the upcoming movie, in which Rey was knocked up by Kylo Ren's Force Ghost.

 

[SIMIΔN]

This is making the rounds, and I think it's fake.
All right, nix that. I hope fervently to god that this is fake, because I don't want to believe that we've finally arrived at the dumbest timeline.

View attachment 5021398
Supposedly, this image is from a scene in the upcoming movie, in which Rey was knocked up by Kylo Ren's Force Ghost.

It's 2023, monoethnic couples don't fly. It has to be mixed race so the father will probably be Rose\

Seriously though, the best show I've seen in 2022 was Star Wars Andor. It's a great exploration about the cost of revolutions and the power structures that cause people to act evil. There's no fanservice, merchandise-bait or wokeshit, and the pace picks up throughout the series.

 

[Your old Livejournal]

This is making the rounds, and I think it's fake.
All right, nix that. I hope fervently to god that this is fake, because I don't want to believe that we've finally arrived at the dumbest timeline.

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Supposedly, this image is from a scene in the upcoming movie, in which Rey was knocked up by Kylo Ren's Force Ghost.

I've seen this pic make its rounds too and it has me seriously salty. Because I'd hhonestly not put it past Disney to go that route because Reylos are basically the only people who want Rey back and will bitch if they don't return Ben from the dead one way or the other. Just thinking about this makes me throw up in my mouth. How's it not messed up to have her magically impregnated by the same guy who first stalked her all across the galaxy and then died immediately after she kissed him? Did she like suck his sperm out with all his life essence and someone knock herself up with it because she's so OP she can't just download Force powers but make babies like that too?!

Reylos and their enablers, man. I just know Disney is going to pull this shit.

 

[Miller]

This is making the rounds, and I think it's fake.
All right, nix that. I hope fervently to god that this is fake, because I don't want to believe that we've finally arrived at the dumbest timeline.

View attachment 5021398
Supposedly, this image is from a scene in the upcoming movie, in which Rey was knocked up by Kylo Ren's Force Ghost.

A great poet once said: "it's not about who she kisses but who eventually lays the pipe".

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Seriously though, the best show I've seen in 2022 was Star Wars Andor. It's a great exploration about the cost of revolutions and the power structures that cause people to act evil. There's no fanservice, merchandise-bait or wokeshit, and the pace picks up throughout the series.

-No fanservice, merchandise bait, or wokeshit

Fanservice cameos include Wullf Yularen, Mon Mothma, Saw Gerrera, you have a starship that turns into a giant double-bladed lightsaber slicing through TIEs, and the whole message is "fascist man bad" even though the Imperial authorities weren't that bad until the rebels pissed them off, and that's still seen as necessary; turning the Empire from lazy pussies into autistic tyrants was something they wanted to get more people to rebel.

Sorry, but I don't see it, my man.

 

[starborn427614]

Trailer for the second season of Visions is out.

 

[Dixieland Buckaroo]

So here's a summary of all the shit announced at Celebration:
https://ew.com/movies/star-wars-celebration-2023-big-reveals/
https://archive.ph/4FAiX
Films / tv

• The 15 years later Rey sequel. Can't confirm the prego screenshot anywhere reputable, and it's 15 years later?
• Dave Filoni gets a movie set in the new republic era. Cagey about if it's the end of Mando or not.
• Fresh off ruining Indiana Jones, James mangold gets a movie to show the very first Jedi.
• Taiki Waititi's direct/star vehicle still under development
• Shawn Levy's film is still under development... After Deadpool 3 and some Netflix show.
• Kevin Feige's film is shelved
• Patty Jenkins Rogue Squadron is shelved
• Rian Johnsons trilogy *not* under active development. (no shit)
• No new TV shows announced? Everything was previously known, I think? Just a lot of media and shit interviews with these "stars" and "creative geniuses". I guess the second season of Tales of the Jedi is new. And a Lando tv show is definitely still happening, but no details.

On the toys front, Hasbro is very focused on return of the Jedi
https://news.yahoo.com/hasbro-reveals-might-best-darth-222406896.html
https://archive.ph/JyOo4

And Vidya? Crickets. Only the Jedi survivor trailer. No Bethesda Indiana Jones game. No Ubisoft open world. No EA gotcha.
https://www.ign.com/articles/star-wars-celebration-2023-everything-announced-so-far
https://archive.ph/Zag0F

The press will fellate about all these new announcements, but I'm seeing a direct turn away from Disney+, and honestly, not much past the immediate horizon. They showed a lot of shit coming out in the next 6 months or so (Acolyte, Andor, Ahsoka, the list of A's goes on!), but not much past that...

Edit: cause I hit post somehow and then words.

 

[Mr. Zed da Robot Poon Fed]

So here's a summary of all the shit announced at Celebration:
https://ew.com/movies/star-wars-celebration-2023-big-reveals/
https://archive.ph/4FAiX
Films / tv

• The 15 years later Rey sequel. Can't confirm the prego screenshot anywhere reputable, and it's 15 years later?
• Dave Filoni gets a movie set in the new republic era. Cagey about if it's the end of Mando or not.
• Fresh off ruining Indiana Jones, James mangold gets a movie to show the very first Jedi.
• Taiki Waititi's direct/star vehicle still under development
• Shawn Levy's film is still under development... After Deadpool 3 and some Netflix show.
• Kevin Feige's film is shelved
• Patty Jenkins Rogue Squadron is shelved
• Rian Johnsons trilogy *not* under active development. (no shit)
• No new TV shows announced? Everything was previously known, I think? Just a lot of media and shit interviews with these "stars" and "creative geniuses". I guess the second season of Tales of the Jedi is new. And a Lando tv show is definitely still happening, but no details.

On the toys front, Hasbro is very focused on return of the Jedi
https://news.yahoo.com/hasbro-reveals-might-best-darth-222406896.html
https://archive.ph/JyOo4

And Vidya? Crickets. Only the Jedi survivor trailer. No Bethesda Indiana Jones game. No Ubisoft open world. No EA gotcha.
https://www.ign.com/articles/star-wars-celebration-2023-everything-announced-so-far
https://archive.ph/LKQKZ

The press will fellate about all these new announcements, but I'm seeing a direct turn away from Disney+, and honestly, not much past the immediate horizon. They showed a lot of shit coming out in the next 6 months or so (Acolyte, Andor, Ahsoka, the list of A's goes on!), but not much past that...

Edit: cause I hit post somehow and then words.

Ahh, yes. Nothing regarding Star Wars Eclipse has been announced as well. Just Jedi Survivor.

There is also no way in the world that they filmed anything at this point regarding Rey, so I’m sure that preggo picture is fake. Can’t have a strong, independent woman get pregnant and have maternal duties now.

 

[Screamer_2]

Bob Iger is responsible for the following

• Buying 20th Century Fox for no reason.

Avatar brah!

 

[jspit2.0]

Trailer for the second season of Visions is out.

Oh Christ in heaven!

I knew Visions would get another. How can they be so fucking predictable? The first one was Japanese and they toned down some of there degenerate, furry, forced diversity shit. It wasn't universally loathed, so obvious answer is to immediately take it and woke it!

300% more black people with fugly ass hair! All female leads, unattractive of course! Furries, gotta have those fur characters for Dave! Oh my, there are animation companies all over the world guys, so if they like Japan that must mean they'll like other countries too!

How anyone has any hope for Andor going forward...

It's 2023, monoethnic couples don't fly. It has to be mixed race so the father will probably be Rose\

Seriously though, the best show I've seen in 2022 was Star Wars Andor. It's a great exploration about the cost of revolutions and the power structures that cause people to act evil. There's no fanservice, merchandise-bait or wokeshit, and the pace picks up throughout the series.

I mean, it retcons out allot of the stuff that made the original Rebellion cool and it has the pacing of an 80 year old with brittle bone disease.

But yes, it is otherwise well crafted and is probably the best Star Wars has put out since Rogue One in terms of live action.

 

[jspit2.0]

even though the Imperial authorities weren't that bad until the rebels pissed them off, and that's still seen as necessary;

It was literally established by massacring children and old people in a temple. They enslaved entire races. They built a fucking super weapon to blowed up planets.

They did all these things before any rebellion existed. And before you cry about the Death Star, your beloved prequels, two horrible movies you constantly defend established the Death Star was a thing back before the Clone Wars even started.

So yes, the Empire was very brutal. It needed a fucking Clone Wars and a Republic that was broke as fuck to look good compared to,

 

[The handsome tard]

The real question is how desperate Daisy must be to return to this franchise she already made it clear she didnt have a good time working for.
Either she was offered fuck you amounts of money or her career is really going nowhere so she might as well return to this stupid role so weird liberals can celebrate "owning" the conservatives that still care some-fucking-how about this now meaningless and shallow brand.


Also


Im glad that the Mandalorian is falling apart because it exposes a serious storytelling problem with it since its very beginning.

The Mandalorian shit is actually really fucking boring and it worked better when it didnt focus on that and mostly on a space bounty hunter and Baby Yoda...but you see, Baby Yoda is a double edged sword because it attracted a lot of shallow watchers (you know the kind, the kind that would mock star wars fans back in the day but now are "super fans" that post baby yoda memes and icons) and he clearly overrated his welcome because the story was over in S2's finale.

But Disney has such little faith in the Mandalorian working without baby yoda that they brought him back already with a "watch Book of Boba Fett" as explanation. They know this series needs B.Y to work at this point but now we are exposing that B.Y is just here to sell toys and to keep mongoloid simpletons going "awww" everytime he is on screen. There is no reason to keep him around plotwise but here he is, pretty much as a crutch because the show runners and the company knows that he was the reason people kept watching.

And lets face it...B.Y isnt an interesting character, he is a cute version of Yoda and thats really it. He and Mando cant really interact much beyond the same things we have seen before, the little green turd isnt capable of even talking yet. I get that Yoda's Species lives for almost a thousand years but you would think that they should already be mature enough to speak when they are freaking 50 (thus why there are some theories/jokes that B.Y is just actually mentally handicaped or that traumatized from O.66)

Any "wins" Disney has at this point just delays the inevitable, this brand is dead. Sure, it will always going to keep producing some profit from perpetual men children of the liberal kind but SW will never be the cultural juggernaut it once was. No matter how many wins they score, the damage is done, most likely the moment G.L signed the brand to Disney. Almost comes off as a greek tragedy of its own making.

I legit hope this goes to history books as a cautionary tale about not selling your brand to mega souless corporations. Its best if your brand fades and is foundly remembered by its fans years later rather than remain and...be wished by its fans that it didnt stay that way.

This is making the rounds, and I think it's fake.
All right, nix that. I hope fervently to god that this is fake, because I don't want to believe that we've finally arrived at the dumbest timeline.

View attachment 5021398
Supposedly, this image is from a scene in the upcoming movie, in which Rey was knocked up by Kylo Ren's Force Ghost.

"See guys? The Skywalker bloodline WASNT wiped out!"

God, Disney, please stop making me wish it was!

Its like they revive your dead pet and the poor thing is barely alive, half rotten and with maggots on it. But hey, its "back".

 

[HandsomeDan]

This is making the rounds, and I think it's fake.
All right, nix that. I hope fervently to god that this is fake, because I don't want to believe that we've finally arrived at the dumbest timeline.

View attachment 5021398
Supposedly, this image is from a scene in the upcoming movie, in which Rey was knocked up by Kylo Ren's Force Ghost.

Is the fact that she is "with child" more horrifying or the fact that she is wearing the exact same costume again for a fourth film more horrifying?

 

[crowabunga]

Hell even if Vader killed her in Rebels it would've been a fine sendoff but Filoni inserted some god damn time travel to save her. Like if time travel now exists, that breaks the setting.

Whatever criticisms may be leveled against Rebels, I did not initially hate it, though that may be because I was always "watching" it while multitasking.

The introduction of time travel turned the show, and the entire nu-Wars universe, into (even blacker, tarrier, more blood-laced) shit.

What used to interest me about Star Wars is how, despite all the superficial foolishness of its setting, certain aspects of the cosmology are such that the concerns of characters in Star Wars are identical to the concerns of real people: Star Wars had no take-backsies, what's done is done, for the average joe when you're dead you're dead, and even for Jedi it seems like you're eventually lost to The Force even if you stick around as a ghost for a bit (like with Obi-Wan fading out of reach in the Thrawn trilogy. Maybe in other media they stick around longer, IDK). This is all relatable: the Jedi and Sith are different in many ways, but the distinction that matters, that makes them more than just another group of arbitrary sci-fi factions and instead lets the average person really understand their differences on a personal level, is that the Jedi philosophy is based on a willingness to accept death and loss, whereas the Sith rage against it and attempt to control fate at any cost, and are willing to throw humanity and decency in the trash to achieve a (pyrrhic) victory over nature (this relatability is probably why the Cybermen are my favorite Doctor Who villain, as before they devolved into an analogy for communism they were a secular, transhumanist exploration of this same impulse of "control at any cost"). These polar opposites are exaggerated in Star Wars, yes, but they speak to a universal struggle, a part of the (dare I type such a trite phrase?) human condition.

And then Filoni and Disney came along. Time Travel! Force Healing! "No one's ever really gone!" Well gee, nu-Wars, good job throwing all that poignancy out the window. What's next, casual necromancy? Explicit, non-ambiguous afterlives? How long until the transformation into "shitty homebrew tabletop RPG setting" is complete?

 

[Gondolindrim]

Trailer for the second season of Visions is out.

It seems like Visions is just a series of animated one shots now instead of an anime thing. As much as kinda liked the last batch, this just seems cynical. Kinda like Disney is using their infinite power and wealth to give us crumbs of a good idea and nothing else despite clearly showing they have the ability to produce decent anine shorts.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

It was literally established by massacring children and old people in a temple. They enslaved entire races. They built a fucking super weapon to blowed up planets.

I was talking about how Andor pretty much showed how the Empire had zero effect on the average twat until the Rebellion pissed them off. They were lazy little shits who barely cared about oppressing the average peon until the rebels pissed them off, and they gave the ISB its justification to go nuts.

Also, killing children and old people and enslaving entire races happened under the Republic already. Grievous' Kaleesh race, the Mandalorians killing each other, there's tons of examples where the crap under the Empire was already happening under the Republic.

Shit, look at what happened to Anakin and people like him. If the Republic actually followed through with its ban on slavery, how many more lives would've been saved?

They did all these things before any rebellion existed. And before you cry about the Death Star, your beloved prequels, two horrible movies you constantly defend established the Death Star was a thing back before the Clone Wars even started.

The Death Star was being made by the CIS, and the Republic merely appropriated it by the end of the war. Heck, I doubt Sidious knew about it until Dooku gave him the schematics in EPII.

So yes, the Empire was very brutal. It needed a fucking Clone Wars and a Republic that was broke as fuck to look good compared to,

And that was the point; if the Republic wasn't broke to begin with, or if the Jedi and the Senators at least tried to address the wrongs of the Republic, (ie. try to figure out why the normie Separatist hated their guts) then there wouldn't be an Empire to begin with. Shit, remember those worlds that later formed the core of the Alliance, and how they were wealthy enough to fund a private army to fight against a galactic Empire? (Chandrila, Corellia, Alderaan) If those morons knocked out the Trade Federation army on Naboo before her queen called for a Vote of No Confidence on Chancellor Valorum, then Palpatine would've been stuck as some dipshit senator of some random dirtball whose ambitions would've been stopped cold. They only gave a shit because the Emperor took away their toys, not because they cared about the average twat in the Republic.

 

[Evil Peter Griffin]

Is the Clone Wars cartoon worth a watch?

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Is the Clone Wars cartoon worth a watch?

Depends on which one.

The Tartakovsky cartoon is a fine wine that you can consume the whole way through and it's a masterpiece.

The TCW cartoon is more of a mixed bag. Some episode arcs are enjoyable, (the Mandalore/Maul episodes) others are good for background noise, (most of Season 1) and others are downright grating. (Ahsoka's Trial and the Martez Sisters)