Cultcow Mikemikev / Michael Coombs / Twinkle Toes / Velcro Pants - Pedo Teacher and Neo-Nazi, Advocate of Child Murder, Secret JewMuslim ANTIFA, A-Logs Null Constantly

[Mikemikev]

Have you seen a mirror lately? Because you do.

No, I don't.

 

[AnOminous]

No, I don't.

You totally do. Like, totally.

 

[Mikemikev]

You totally do. Like, totally.

So this is what you spend your life doing? And this is about "lolcows"?

 

[AnOminous]

So this is what you spend your life doing? And this is about "lolcows"?

(He thinks he looks normal. *snicker*.)

 

[Oliver D Smith]

In fact it was just you that failed to understand for 5 years. Why do you keep referencing Tishkoff 2009 when there is better data. Even that plot has the groups at right angles. Anyone can see from this thread that you are just a twisted butthurt liar. You are a very sick inhuman person.

As already explained to you many times: Tishkoff's population samples include over 100 ethnic groups from Africa. The PCA plot you usually put up only has 10 African populations. The only liar here who uses false/inaccurate data is you. A PCA with 100 and not 10 ethnic groups for each continent reveals genetic continua, not clusters.

 

[Mikemikev]

As already explained to you many times: Tishkoff's population samples include over 100 ethnic groups from Africa. The PCA plot you usually put up only has 10 African populations. The only liar here who uses false/inaccurate data is you. A PCA with 100 and not 10 ethnic groups for each continent reveals genetic continua, not clusters.

Your plot uses old methods with a limited number of SNPs.

http://www.molecularecologist.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Tishkoff2009_fig02.png

Further it doesn't label samples separately so you can see what's going on. Too many points are dumped creating a solid block. It's not focussed to account for population densities.

Even then we see major races coming off at right angles. Even if they didn't we could operationalize a spectrum.

This is much better.

http://www.scs.illinois.edu/~mcdonald/PCA84pops.html

See how mixed Ethiopians scatter between. What populations were missed? You can't name them, just imagine them. Your whole argument is based on one poor diagram.

Cue butthurt defamation.

 

[randomfarmer]

I probably won't post here much because of the endless sad childish comments from absolute morons.

Well that is one way.

 

[Oliver D Smith]

Your plot uses old methods with a limited number of SNPs.

http://www.molecularecologist.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Tishkoff2009_fig02.png

Further it doesn't label samples separately so you can see what's going on. Too many points are dumped creating a solid block. It's not focussed to account for population densities.

Even then we see major races coming off at right angles. Even if they didn't we could operationalize a spectrum.

This is much better.

http://www.scs.illinois.edu/~mcdonald/PCA84pops.html

See how mixed Ethiopians scatter between. What populations were missed? You can't name them, just imagine them. Your whole argument is based on one poor diagram.

Cue butthurt defamation.

The samples are listed in the supplement; 113 African populations. The PCA you post has 10. You've missed 103 populations that fill those spaces. For example between Egyptians and Ethiopians you're missing samples from both Sudan and Eritrea. Tishkoff includes those samples, e.g. "Sudanese samples were collected in the Khartoum and Kasala provinces of the Sudan." The Sudanese samples fill the genetic vacuum between Egyptians and Ethiopians. You even know this and that you lie about the data.

Any spectrum can be arbitrarily divided for convenience, hence stellar classification. For someone arguing this subject for 5+ years you've never once listed a reason why "Caucasoid", "Negroid", "Mongoloid" is useful. We don't arbitrarily divide continua for no purpose. Metapedia's current page on race written by Upplysning cannot either provide a single reason why race is useful. John Fuerst's book also failed to list a practical application or utility race has. You people are idiots.

Your IQ is that of a literal sped, I don't know why you're virtue signalling as if the delusion of your intellect is convincing.
Get back to the Down's syndrome class to suck the headmaster's penis, degenerative retarded homosexual. Thank you. Real humans are speaking.

Unlike the negroid's, it's still low, however, he might be Celtid in which case it is one of the few bridges running from Negroid to Caucasoid in recent times.

Can you explain why you call Celts "Negroid"? But anyway, everyone in this thread including you seems to agree Mikemikev is incredibly ugly. No doubt that was intentional by ANTIFA/Hope not Hate - they send in their ugliest and deformed looking people as plants to pose as nationalists.

Shane Calvert (just google him) is another example.

 

[Mikemikev]

The samples are listed in the supplement; 113 African populations. The PCA you post has 10. You've missed 103 populations that fill those spaces. For example between Egyptians and Ethiopians you're missing samples from both Sudan and Eritrea. Tishkoff includes those samples, e.g. "Sudanese samples were collected in the Khartoum and Kasala provinces of the Sudan." The Sudanese samples fill the genetic vacuum between Egyptians and Ethiopians. You even know this and that you lie about the data.

Any spectrum can be arbitrarily divided for convenience, hence stellar classification. For someone arguing this subject for 5+ years you've never once listed a reason why "Caucasoid", "Negroid", "Mongoloid" is useful. We don't arbitrarily divide continua for no purpose. Metapedia's current page on race written by Upplysning cannot either provide a single reason why race is useful. John Fuerst's book also failed to list a practical application or utility race has. You people are idiots.

No, what you've done is cherry picked a study which overrepresents African populations. Sudan is 70% Sudanese Arab, and has 40 million people. It couldn't fill in the gaps if it wasn't divided. Good call picking a country with an ongoing Caucasoid/Negroid race war to claim "race doesn't exist".

http://www.nature.com/articles/srep09996
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/su.html

Can you explain why you call Celts "Negroid"? But anyway, everyone in this thread including you seems to agree Mikemikev is incredibly ugly.

Well that's de rigeur for lying internet trolls. "u r ugly" shows up your childish mentality.

 

[Oliver D Smith]

No, what you've done is cherry picked a study which overrepresents African populations. Sudan is 70% Sudanese Arab, and has 40 million people. It couldn't fill in the gaps if it wasn't divided. Good call picking a country with an ongoing Caucasoid/Negroid race war to claim "race doesn't exist".

You never bothered to read the full samples. Tishkoff includes other samples from Sudan (Nuer, Dinka, Shilluk, Nyimang and Beja from Sudan/Eritrea etc.); none of those are Sudanese Arab.

The person cherry picking is you. You select a study that has only 10 population samples for Africa. Why? And you know the reason. If you include so few samples - you get genetic clusters. Italians and Swedes would be genetic clusters if you ignored all the populations between those extremes in Europe. That's all you are doing. Yet you're an honest person? lol.

 

[Mikemikev]

You never bothered to read the full samples. Tishkoff includes other samples from Sudan (Nuer, Dinka, Shilluk, Nyimang and Beja from Sudan/Eritrea etc.); none of those are Sudanese Arab.

The person cherry picking is you. You select a study that has only 10 population samples for Africa. Why? And you know the reason. If you include so few samples - you get genetic clusters. Italians and Swedes would be genetic clusters if you ignored all the populations between those extremes in Europe. That's all you are doing. Yet you're an honest person? lol.

You're not showing plots of where they cluster. You just have a meaningless splurge of a PCA from 2009 which dumps a massive overrepresentation of "Africans" creating a meaningless blob. Where do Dinka cluster vis a vis Sudanese Arabs for example? You don't know?

Shut in mentally ill loser Oliver Smith thinks the Dinka are similar to Sudanese Arabs.

Why does Oliver Smith think Sudan "fills in the gaps" between the whole of SS Africa versus Eurasia, when the country is a gap in itself.

 

[chimpburgers]

Shut in mentally ill exceptional individual Oliver Smith thinks the Dinka are similar to Sudanese Arabs.

What if both of you tards are wrong? I love how you low functioning autists turned this thread into one of the weirdest i've seen in a while. Keep it up.

 

[Oliver D Smith]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_genetic_clustering

"Weiss and Fullerton have noted that if one sampled only Icelanders, Mayans and Maoris, three distinct clusters would form and all other populations could be described as being clinally composed of admixtures of Maori, Icelandic and Mayan genetic materials. Kaplan and Winther therefore argue that seen in this way both Lewontin and Edwards are right in their arguments. They conclude that while racial groups are characterized by different allele frequencies, this does not mean that racial classification is a natural taxonomy of the human species, because multiple other genetic patterns can be found in human populations that crosscut racial distinctions."

 

[Mikemikev]

What if both of you tards are wrong? I love how you low functioning autists turned this thread into one of the weirdest i've seen in a while. Keep it up.

Actually this is a pretty standard academic question. Moron.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_genetic_clustering

"Weiss and Fullerton have noted that if one sampled only Icelanders, Mayans and Maoris, three distinct clusters would form and all other populations could be described as being clinally composed of admixtures of Maori, Icelandic and Mayan genetic materials. Kaplan and Winther therefore argue that seen in this way both Lewontin and Edwards are right in their arguments. They conclude that while racial groups are characterized by different allele frequencies, this does not mean that racial classification is a natural taxonomy of the human species, because multiple other genetic patterns can be found in human populations that crosscut racial distinctions."

Except I'm providing studies with hundreds of samples idiot. I'm focussing on contact zones and showing a discontinuity. Your Wikipedia copy paste referenced to some Kikes against "3 samples" has no relevance.

 

[Oliver D Smith]

What if both of you tards are wrong? I love how you low functioning autists turned this thread into one of the weirdest i've seen in a while. Keep it up.

My position is held by the vast majority of modern biologists and population geneticists because it is supported by the evidence. The 'race realism' Mikemikev espouses is virtually non-existent among actual scientists, in that sense its comparable to creationism.

Mikemikev then resorts to wacky the "its the jooz!" conspiracies about academia.

 

[Mikemikev]

My position is held by the vast majority of modern biologists and population geneticists because it is supported by the evidence. The 'race realism' Mikemikev espouses is virtually non-existent among actual scientists, in that sense its comparable to creationism.

Mikemikev then resorts to wacky the "its the jooz!" conspiracies about academia.

You failed to support your position. Now you are resorting to an authority argument. The majority authority you reference is false in addition.

 

[Oliver D Smith]

Shut in mentally ill loser Oliver Smith thinks the Dinka are similar to Sudanese Arabs.

Why does Oliver Smith think Sudan "fills in the gaps" between the whole of SS Africa versus Eurasia, when the country is a gap in itself.

Sudanese Arabs with Nubians are mostly concentrated in northern Sudan; Dinka, Shilluk and Nuer in the south. If you look at a PCA plot based on genetic distance you will see Sudanese Arabs plot between Egyptians to the north and Hausa, closely followed by Dinka, Shilluk and Nuer, to the south.

https://investigativegenetics.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/2041-2223-2-12

You failed to support your position. Now you are resorting to an authority argument. The majority authority you reference is false in addition.

Quite obviously it isn't since you edited Metapedia's page on race for 2 years yet failed to list a single contemporary biologist or population geneticist who supports race. Can you list 10 right now?

Rushton, Lynn etc. are not biologists. Neither are you. You have no scientific credentials whatsoever.

 

[Mikemikev]

If you look at a PCA plot based on genetic distance you will see Sudanese Arabs plot between Egyptians to the north and Hausa, closely followed by Dinka, Shilluk and Nuer, to the south

So where is the PCA plot assclown?

I provided a 2015 PCA from Nature above that shows South Sudanese cluster closer to Negroids, while Sudanese Arabs cluster closer to other Arabs, with nothing in between.

Is your chart in your imagination nut case?

 

[Oliver D Smith]

So where is the PCA plot assclown?

On the link. All these PCA's tend to confirm isolation-by-distance: the model which best explains human biological variation, not genetic clusters.

Handley, L. Manica, A., Goudet, J., Balloux, F. (2007). "Going the Distance: Human Population Genetics in a Clinal World". Trends in Genetics. 23(9): 432-439.
http://www2.hull.ac.uk/science/pdf/Lawson Handley et al TIG 2007.pdf

 

[Mikemikev]

On the link. All these PCA's tend to confirm isolation-by-distance: the model which best explains human biological variation, not genetic clusters.

Handley, L. Manica, A., Goudet, J., Balloux, F. (2007). "Going the Distance: Human Population Genetics in a Clinal World". Trends in Genetics. 23(9): 432-439.
http://www2.hull.ac.uk/science/pdf/Lawson Handley et al TIG 2007.pdf

So post it. You haven't posted a PCA. Don't expect me to go through texts finding things on your say so.

"The Library of Congress has an image which agrees with me. Go find it and post it."

And stop trying to change the subject.

Assclown.