Culture We Deserve What Star Wars Has Become - Rian Johnson’s The Last Jedi was a bold, modern interpretation of Star Wars lore that set up new heroes with new stories

There was a moment at last week’s Star Wars Celebration 2023 in London where Dave Filoni stood with the spotlight shining behind him, arena lights dimmed to create a sliver of light, and Filoni’s instantly recognisable Stetsoned shadow looming over the arena. It was reminiscent of the Phantom Menace poster, where Darth Vader’s shadow is cast behind Anakin Skywalker. Knowing Filoni’s public persona, it may well have been a deliberate choice to play out this fantasy. But even as a coincidence, it’s a tellingly poetic reminder about Star Wars’ inability to let go of its past.

I have a curious relationship with Star Wars. I watch or play most of the stuff connected to it (or, in the common parlance, consume most of its content), but have never been in love with it. I don’t have any particular horse in the race. I don’t care that Lizzo and Jack Black are in the latest episode of The Mandalorian because I remember that the third movie ends with teddy bear puppets defeating the fascists and that the musicians are called ‘jizz wailers’. It’s always been a little silly. But it can still be silly and good. What’s more, it can be silly and good and important. But right now, it’s just a mess, and we deserve it.

Star Wars conventions have been around ever since there were Star Wars. But they used to be events for looking back, with fan-favourite clips being shown, some behind-the-scenes footage, and autographs with the stars. If there were any announcements, they would be special editions of existing things, which we did see over the weekend with discussion of the 40th anniversary cut of Return of the Jedi. We had interviews and behind-the-scenes clips too, including sequences that were storyboarded using action figures, but they were no longer the draw.

You can’t make money off the past. At least, not until you find a way to sell it into the future. Star Wars, in part thanks to the fact it’s owned by Disney, is fully in the capitalist vortex of churning out every possible spin-off it can, chasing that sweet, sweet dollar. The part of this problem not directly caused by Disney is caused by the fact Star Wars’ biggest creative leads were huge fans as kids, and are now recreating that, forever. Nothing new, just the stuff that blew their minds in the ‘80s.

The Mandalorian only exists because people thought Boba Fett’s helmet was cool. Granted, we got one great series out of it, and a few other good episodes sprinkled in, but now it’s running on fumes. It can’t just be a space western, it has to link to Luke Skywalker and Ahsoka and Boba Fett. Boba has his own spin off show too, with Ahsoka’s on the way, and now we know we’re getting a ‘MandoVerse’ movie. Why does The Mandalorian need its own universe? It’s already part of the Star Wars universe. I thought the whole point was that it was its own thing that could tell smaller stories.

This is where our own culpability comes into it. Culturally, we have shown ourselves to be good little piggies consuming content on demand. Though the superhero box office dominance is waning, we have supported the creation of spin-off after spin-off, universe after universe. About 476,923 new Star Wars projects were announced or discussed during the conference, and the vast majority were continuations, spin-offs, or old characters getting to ride again. Star Wars is failing to take advantage of the world’s potential in order to appease YouTubers with stained shirts who think it’s woke that Daisy Ridley’s abs give them complex emotions.

Rian Johnson’s The Last Jedi was a bold, modern interpretation of Star Wars lore that set up new heroes with new stories and had some of the best, most layered acting the series has ever known. In the very next movie, it was all burned down so that the classic heroes could shine again. Rey went from being a nobody to being a Palpatine and then a Skywalker, only worth the viewer’s time because she has famous blood. They nepo-babied her. Now it turns out Rian Johnson’s planned trilogy is dead. Don’t worry though, Rey is getting a movie that will double down on her innate importance that only exists because of her last name.

Star Wars had a chance to be new again, to continue to blow the minds of fresh-faced fans once more. After Rogue One and The Last Jedi, it was in a place to bring in bold stories with exciting heroes. But it’s no longer interested in fresh-faced fans. It cares about middle aged dorks who remember being fresh-faced fans and now spend 20 percent of their annual earnings on Star Wars merch and desperately want their IP to remind them of the time they were fresh-faced fans. That’s who Star Wars is for now. It’s not good, but we deserve it.

 
After Rogue One and The Last Jedi, it was in a place to bring in bold stories with exciting heroes. But it’s no longer interested in fresh-faced fans. It cares about middle aged dorks who remember being fresh-faced fans and now spend 20 percent of their annual earnings on Star Wars merch and desperately want their IP to remind them of the time they were fresh-faced fans.
It’s amazing how much they have to trash the original, older fanbase for no reason except to pretend as if they were the original fans of the movie that they used to despise in its original run.

Fake fans are really dangerous.
 
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No matter how hot the girl is, those shitty librarian glasses are a giant turn off. Also, it's hard to believe that Disney purchased what you would think is basically a license to print money and they manage to lose millions by throwing it over to a bunch of real life Sith Lords.

Another beloved franchise, ruined by morons. And I thought I hated Randy Pitchford.
 
It’s amazing how much they have to trash the original, older fanbase for no reason except to pretend as if they were the original fans of the movie that they used to despise in its original run.

Fake fans are really dangerous.
Anime fandom has proven this
 
Anime fandom has proven this
Old anime fans from the 80’s to 00’s were the ones that tried to showcase their love and support for the creators that helped shape their imagination for the medium.

2010’s to now have these fans making it more about their personality traits and political opinions in current day while not caring about anime.
 
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Why are people always looking for "modern" shit in a movie that takes place in a fictional universe where people have bright coloured sword wands? Fans have always been one big circle-jerk and no fandom is immune to this.

Though I will agree that the universe seems so small because it keeps focusing on the same characters or people associated with some past character. You'd think there would an infinite number of characters and stories to showcase but no.
 
No matter how hot the girl is, those shitty librarian glasses are a giant turn off. Also, it's hard to believe that Disney purchased what you would think is basically a license to print money and they manage to lose millions by throwing it over to a bunch of real life Sith Lords.

Another beloved franchise, ruined by morons. And I thought I hated Randy Pitchford.

...That's a girl?
 
A weird way to run cover for a dead franchise. Its funny how despite all the ESG/cash infusions from the banking cartel, they could have not saved the franchise, let alone make it work. Incompetence covered up is still incompetence.

Its shit like this is why people are now making their own content.
Has there been any case yet of a beloved movie or show getting an official continuation and that continuation being so loathed by fans that it's relegated to non-cannon drivel with the original either being left as is or replaced with a better continuation?

I can honestly see that happening with Star Wars a some point in the future.
 
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The shitty prequels are what caused the new shitty movies to be made by Disney. The prequels showed that you can release anything Star Wars and the Star Wars fans will pay to see it. No matter how awful. You could tell the direction George Lucas was going when he rereleased the first three Star Wars movies in the 90's with newly added CGI. That has not aged well at all from what I have heard. By the time Episode 1 came along it was mostly CGI and it stayed that way through the prequels. I think the 3rd prequel had the most CGI out of all three. So much so that people back then were saying it was more like a cartoon than an actual movie. I guess kind of like Toy Story.

So, George Lucas being the money-grubbing goblin that he is release the prequels. which taught the world Star Wars fans will accept any garbage as long as it's Star Wars. Then about a decade or so later he sells Star Wars to Disney. Disney continues doing what Lucas did. Slapping Star Wars on anything expecting it to make money. All the faggots who said the prequels were good. They caused the new movies to exist.
 
Has there been any case yet of a beloved movie or show getting an official continuation and that continuation being so loathed by fans that it's relegated to non-cannon drivel with the original either being left as is or replaced with a better continuation?

I can honestly see that happening with Star Wars a some point in the future.
Ghostbusters is the closest equivalent, though that’s a reboot of the original. They totally disregarded it when they made Afterlife and its upcoming sequel, which confusingly has been named “Ghostbusters 5” as a working title.
 
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As usual, the corporate dick-sucker blames audiences.

No, the problem with Star Wars is the same thing infecting every other corner of pop culture, media, academia, and elite society. It's feminized and anti-male. It was unusually male-centric for a short stretch, probably because Favreau had weight to throw around, but as soon as the dust settled it turned into the same flabby, feminine shit as everything else.

Male characters today can only be fools, faggots, or replaced by women. This is another one that went with option 3, but it's all the same shit.
 
It can’t just be a space western, it has to link to Luke Skywalker and Ahsoka and Boba Fett.
Bullshit, it can be damn near whatever people could want it to be; before Disney and Kathleen Kennedy murdered everything, there used to be the Expanded Universe, which covered all sorts of characters, planets, and the like. But when the Mouse got sunk his rotted fangs into it, they waved all that shit out of existence. You could have a buddy cop series about trying to stop spice runners, you could have a crime syndicate civil war, you could have so fucking much with so many different alien races and different planets; but the people in Hollywood are all inbred and unable to create something truly unique or memorable. And it's not much better when the nu-fans seem to gobble up whatever shit the Magic Kingdom puts out.

Rian Johnson’s The Last Jedi was a bold, modern interpretation of Star Wars lore that set up new heroes with new stories and had some of the best, most layered acting the series has ever known. In the very next movie, it was all burned down so that the classic heroes could shine again. Rey went from being a nobody to being a Palpatine and then a Skywalker, only worth the viewer’s time because she has famous blood. They nepo-babied her. Now it turns out Rian Johnson’s planned trilogy is dead. Don’t worry though, Rey is getting a movie that will double down on her innate importance that only exists because of her last name.
I'm not defending anyone, but the new trilogy's problems are too numerous to get into, but can be simplified as such. Disney wanted a trilogy, but didn't know what it should be about; so they tried half-assing it, and failed, as it should have.

Star Wars had a chance to be new again, to continue to blow the minds of fresh-faced fans once more. After Rogue One and The Last Jedi, it was in a place to bring in bold stories with exciting heroes. But it’s no longer interested in fresh-faced fans. It cares about middle aged dorks who remember being fresh-faced fans and now spend 20 percent of their annual earnings on Star Wars merch and desperately want their IP to remind them of the time they were fresh-faced fans. That’s who Star Wars is for now. It’s not good, but we deserve it.
It's funny that you should mention Rogue One, because despite ret-conning what was already established; that movie had massive reshoots because the director tried to do his own thing and make a gritty war drama. And you can still see it with the cinematography where everything is grainy, dark, and dirty; it wasn't thought up as a heroic clean adventure, it was supposed to be war is hell. When it was presented to the suits they said no, they wanted something more family friend and a fun adventure (despite the main character dying at the end). And as stated before, there was plenty of non-Luke media, but the (((slavers))) that bought the rights decided to make those disappear; and big shock, their incestuous tribe fails to make anything compelling from the butchered remains.
 
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Let me guess, she went gaga for the nonexistent love story between Kylo Ren and Rey? Jesus Christ, the one sided romance that Bowsers had for Princess Peach in the Super Mario Bros. Movie was more enduring then the romance between freak face Kylo and plank of wood Rey. This is why shippers are a plague on fandom and should be gatekept from every fandom they try to worm their way into.
 
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