Where the fuck does the the TiF think the new penis is going to go? Directly on top of her clit so she walks completely bow-legged? Her mother and surgeon were right to tell her she is chasing a fantasy. Idiot.
She basically wants her "phallus" to just magically transform into actual, functioning genitals. Like, to me at least, these two sentences are all that's needed to know that she will never, ever be satisfied with any surgery results. I don't know, it just stood out to me.
Spoiled rich girl gets abdominal phalloplasty paid by her mother
Has very unrealistic expectations
Extremely upset it's not what she wanted
Wants to get it removed and replaced with RFF phalloplasty
Here's u/AdornedBrood, a Brassard victim who after phallo was trawling the streets of Manitoba looking for opiates due to pain from urinary complications and now wants to sue him (not for drug reasons)
She also claims to be a hermaphrodite.
Feb 24 2019: She tries to figure out if the street drugs she point are real:
'A lot of people asked why I bought the 500$ worth of those hairy viagra looking presses. This was the first bag on top of everything i was handed, and I honestly thought they were real. Are these most likely homeade as well? I cant find anything like them on pill identifier. ' - r/opiates 2/24/2019
March 30 2019: She tries to test street oxys by boiling them and doing a drug test to see if they contain opioids.
In comments she shares that the first batch she bought above, she was planning to take to kill herself, but they were fake. She credits her drug seeking to her failed surgeries and is "dealing with constant pain from urinary complications" with 4 upcoming revisions.
These are just notoriously hard for me to read. But it's the hardest red line i've ever gotten, although there seems to be one underneath it as well. No opioids? Lots? Would this insinuate carfent? What are your thoughts? -r/opiates 3/30/2019
The box said it tests for oxycodone but it'll pop up under the "Opiod" strip. I just wasn't sure on the reading.
And I guess it doesn't matter on the reading since it wasn't used with urine. Welp! I guess I wait and see what my body says. Took it anyway because I literally have a death wish and feel stupid for even asking anyone on here.
Thanks alot man. You actually really helped a lot without knowing it. The last batch I bought I got fucked on, and honestly I bought so many at once because I was going to take them all. So I got ripped off and also had a bunch of shit pills. Good times.
If you're willing to read more I'll expand on my situation. I'm a trans-man who's surgerys went horrible and I'm dealing with constant pain from urinary complications. I have 4 upcoming repairs just to fix the last surgerys mistake. All four of my wisdom teeth need immediate removal, but I cannot afford the extra 2,800$ to get it done. The school insurance will cover 120$ of it. I can't afford my real prescriptions, so I get them cheaper, and stronger, on the streets. Woop-de-fuck. I have no idea what I'm doing either. Just take it and hope it makes me feel better.
I was told it would work if I dissolve it in hot water. I'm from a small town so there's not real a place to buy anything else. D:
The more you know! I'm surprised natural selection hasen't killed me off yet. (Darn)
But alive and feeling good so... Pills were a success this round!!
Aug 24 2019: she posts picture of complication on r/MedicalGore.
"You're looking at shot of a transgender man's scrotum. Postop phalloplasty stage 2 with complications: The phallus needed to be disconnected from the neo urethra, in order to fix a stricture and fistula causing urinary retention. I now pee out of a frankestwin hole below my dick.Yes, it's painful."
Physically and mentally! I pray for death every day!
Was a female. All previous parts were rearranged (Labia into a scrotum) , closed up (vaginal cavity) and buried underneath the penis (clitoris). The clitoral nerves were extended all the way up to the tip of the penis via microsurgery. The first surgery was 7.5 hours!
Men to woman on the other hand, can have one successful surgery downstairs and they're good to go! (Minus the dilators needed).
But every type of surgery has complications and can end up looking "not quite right" for a while. So I can understand the confusion!
Thanks! I wish I started posting my transition earlier, I feel like I can expose some tough questions and answers through this. Maybe encourage others or make some feel less alone. I'll deffinetly post other blips as they come along. (Maybe on a more suitable sub) hah
There won't be any difference in size. I'm a shower and not a grower you could say. The skin and tissue used for my penis was a full-thickness skin graft on my right arm, and then a skin graft from my leg, to replace that skin on my arm. Frankenweenie
Sept 17 2020: She starts taking ketamine at a clinic and claims she has "Complex PTSD stemming from trauma and abuse up until the age of 18, have treatment resistant depression, and chronic pain from complications from a bad string of surgerys."
'My first infusion' - r/TherapeuticKetamine
So to start... I'm a 26 year old with Complex PTSD stemming from trauma and abuse up until the age of 18, have treatment resistant depression, and chronic pain from complications from a bad string of surgerys.
I was given 0.5mg per kg. So around 50mg through a one hour sitting.
I was terrified through most of the infusion, like an impending doom or a fight or flight response. This constant state of panic attack made me want it to end before it really began. Unfortunately I experienced time dilation and it felt like It went on four hours and hours... I started crying and a nurse came to check on me and said it was ok. I couldn't talk much but I was soothed for a bit by that. There was only one point where I felt happy or "euphoric" and this was when I saw bright yellow fractals with my eyes closed and felt like I was just a lump of consciousness floating above my body. I remember just really wanting a hug or some form of love. I haven't been in a relashionships for over 5 years and never really thought that bothered me much until I felt that emptiness during the infusion.
I'm really dreading the next one on Friday. I slept for 29 hours after the infusion, had no will to do anything and missed a deadline on an assignment... that never happens as I'm a straight A uni student and take pride in my work.
I was offered Lorazopam before the next infusion and I'm hoping it will help. I've never taken anything other than opioids before so I'm not sure what to expect. Maybe I'll bring a blanket or something from home to ground me if it's bad again. The rickety stretcher and cold room reminded me of a horror movie.
Oct 22 2020: Shortly after ketamine she moves on to suboxone to kick opioids which she says she has been on for 5 years due to the botched surgery.
'Share your suboxone experience with me? ' - r/suboxone
Hello all, I have chronic pain from a botched surgery and have been on opiods for roughly 5 years now. My doctor has me cross tapering from Hydromorphone (8mg 2x a day) to Suboxone and was curious if anyone else had experiences doing this as well?
I just like knowing what to expect as I'm a worry wort.... I stocked up on Pedialyte, imodium, and was prescribed Ondasetron for nausea. ($86 for 9 pills fml)
It's my first day and I only took 1/4 of a pill but I feel very... lightheaded? It's an odd feeling. My eye movements seem slowed as well, like I can't move as fast as I'd like. My body aches, I already have some cramping, my mouth is the Sahara desert, and I woke up having my bruxism return full force. I've had withdrawal from cold turkying Oxycodone in the past but this doesn't feel the same.
I'm assuming it'll only get worse from here. Is there some light at the end of the the tunnel?
TLDR: Feel "off" but only borderline sick. What should I expect from here on?
Comments:
Doctor prescribed me a week or so of Hydromorphone with the Sub. So thankfully I'm not in full withdrawal, but just weaning off. I guess taking 1/4 of a sub is too early for me to tell.
Thank you, If you can switch from heroin with no withdrawal I feel a lot better in my situation. Congrats though, thats a major feat.
Oh, I am starting with 0.5mg (1/4 a pill) while I am/was on hydros.
But today my psychiatrist told me just try subs with no hydro and see how it goes these next few days, while I increase the sub.
Can you elaborate? I'm a bit sad to leave my comfortable opiod routine but my doctor insists this is a better route.
Also I was given pills to take home. Thankfully no needles!
I know... My pharmacy didn't say anything either when I asked. They just said to do what the doctor told me.
I ended up getting a second opinion today as I couldnt even keep my eyes open and kept nodding off. My psychiatrist said stop the hydro right away and just stick to the subs or else I'll have a horrible withdrawal soon. She was baffled why they would tell me to take it like I was.
So. Took some Tylenol and advil for the raging migraine and it's just sub for me now. Thanks guys for the input, otherwise I would have just kept taking it like I was told.
April 23 2022: She returns to post her stage 2 "second attempt" which still looks terrible - but she can stand to pee again
'FtM Phalloplasty Stage 2 (Second attempt). It’s been two years since my last phallo post. Minor complications since then, and I’m finally at a point where I’m able to pee standing up again. Bruising and fresh sutures from yesterday’s surgery. Testicle implants and rod next surgery.' - r/MedicalGore
In comments she claims she is a hermaphrodite and was born with testicles inside her body which were removed during vaginectomy. She also says she asked for an extra inch of penis as she wanted it as big as possible.
Thank you for sharing. May I ask, what is currently in your scrotum?
Hello haha, nothing at the moment, just a lot of swelling!
Yes they used the labia majora skin for the testicles, they’re very swollen at the moment but I was well endowed with weird genitalia to begin with. So lots of wiggle room!
This time around, not too too bad. Just uncomfortable with the catheter. The first stage, to be blunt, was hell. Every day, week, month, was a new type of pain. From swelling and scabbing, tightness of the skin graft area, infection and complications. It’s very hard to explain so I don’t think anyone could have prepared me.
I think it’s too early to tell, I just had this done four days ago. But so far things feel similar, a bit tender from the swelling.
That is a surgery before phalloplasty: For the vagina they remove everything inside (for me: uterus, womb, and testicles. I had them in there as I am/was born a hermaphrodite).
Then they just sew me up! I personally still don’t know some of the magic they pulled to do that.
Correct answer: Was raised female, but have true hermaphroditism. had both genitalia (testicles inside my body) large “clitoris” that was elongated. I felt more male, so during puberty I started physical changes to match my physiological state. Doctors turned my mini peen it into a penis, and closed the vaginal canal.
Self pleasure is honestly way better than before. I’m not sure if it’s more psychological, or because I have more surface area to play with. But I can still orgasm as usual!
I will be getting a pump and rod Inserted into the penis next surgery in order for penetrative sex. I’ve tried with my girlfriend before and it’s like stuffing a marshmallow into a noodle. LOL.
It's hard to say as I've now lived longer with a penis than I have with a vagina. But there are differences I enjoy, like no "moist" feeling down there. I am also more aware of things I bump into as they could hurt my now external appendage. Obviously it's fun to play with and swing in circles. LOL
They rearrange things/use what skin I have to make testicles, take a skin graft from my arm to form the penis. They used the labia minora to lengthen the urethra. Sometimes more skin grafts are needed for further lengthening, but not in my case. They did micro surgery to connect my clitoris nerves all throughout the penis, quite amazing stuff really. 8 hour surgery just for the peen!
Do you mean the phallus or the testicles? Testicles are determined by the size and stretchy ness (to hold the implants), the penis is usually a “cookie cutter” size, but I specifically asked to have an extra inch and my surgeon happily did so. Otherwise, it’s up to the surgeon and their ability to harvest the artery in the forearm; where the skin graft for the penis is taken.
June 17 2022: after stage 2 she ends up in rehab, trying to kick opioids with suboxone again. now she can't pee at all, which is TOTALLY because of the suboxone and not due to her experimental surgeries on her urethra. she also gets pissed the doctors for thinking she should be in the psych unit. also, her girlfriend left her.
'Trying to urinate is HELL' -r/suboxone 6/17/2022
I’m in detox, and started 2mg of Suboxone Monday. Was having issues initiating and my stream was choppy. Tapered up to 4mg and now it’s next to impossible to pee. Maybe getting out a teaspoon every 5 minutes and straining until my head explodes.
My doctor on site here says it’s absolutely not a side-effect of Suboxone. I’ve been having double vision issues and massive headaches, again of which she says are not side-effects and only WD. I’m on day 8 and thought withdrawal would be done by now… she’s getting angry with me asking if I even want to be here (detox, I came voluntarily).
I’m frustrated and depressed because I just want to PISS. Is it all in my head? Has anyone else had this issue??? Comments:
[in response to long comment telling her to try to pee in the shower]
Your comment definitely made it through! I tried some of your guys advice, and It’s an odd open concept set-up here at the hospital but:
I turned on the shower hot. Had half my body in the shower and half by the toilet, put a cold cloth on my head, and grounded myself by touching the wall. It fucking HELPED! I still had some trouble near the end keeping my stream/stop and go, but anything is better than before. Almost NO straining, after days of this doing this shit!!
I feel it may get better as the sub builds up in my system (if In fact it’s not a stricture).
Thanks!!
Awesome thank you, at least I don’t feel crazy anymore heh. Yeah sitting to go and pushing hard is the only way. I bothered them enough to see a urologist on Monday so we will see!
My doctor here is now pushing for me to be transferred to the Psych Unit instead of staying at the Rehab unit until Monday. They’re getting in a psych team to come evaluate me today. I fucking -can’t-. This is Canadian health care for you.
Of course not, I’m actually happier than I’ve ever been as I’m straightening my life out!
Only that I’m upset today because it’s increasingly hard to pee, which she thinks is just psychosomatic. She came back to tell me there has never been a reported case of urine retention in the whole 5 years she’s been prescribing subs. So I said… “this is your first than” She does not like me.
I guess I wait until Monday for the urologist to tell me there’s nothing wrong in my peehole other than the retention from subs.
Hey man. Yeah I had to report that doctor in the end. Now I have a new longterm sub prescriber. I eventually saw a Specialist/Urologist and they knocked me out to take a look inside my bladder and urethra. Everything looked good. Urologist said it’s the Suboxone 100% and the original doctor refused to believe it because it’s a rarer side effect. But still absolutely a side effect. Fuck her, I had to had a Foley catheter in for a week while I tapered down. They pumped me with such a high dose I was nodding off while eating lol. Fun, until you can’t piss.
I’m on 2mg now and it’ve had no issues since.
Unfortunately I’m an in-patient, can’t choose my doctors. But thank you, they all just have an agenda to get me in subs and out of here. They don’t care about my pain. :/
Oh darn that sounds annoying! My issue has gotten better since this post. But now I also have the urge to pee all the time, but usually cannot go unless I force it, or am BURSTING to go.
So I was prescribed Solifenacin, and it helps so much. It basically makes my bladder numb, I can actually hold my urine, until I truly need to go! A life saver when I’m on the road.
I was deff plugged up, they’re giving me laxatives daily though. I’m on Gabapentin 3x a day, which could also contribute. That’s about it though. Snd my 2 cents is, I’ve had a stricture repaired about three years ago. I feel maybe the stress and lack of urinating lately could have caused it to close up again? Who knows, I have ultra anxiety about health shit.
20 year old female to male. Don’t even have a prostate.
Yeah I’m in-hospital. I can’t leave rehab unit on my own free will, stuck here until they say so.
I’m sorry to hear, it’s over four months for me now. I still have those issues as well. Trouble initiating and the stream is weak. As for public bathrooms my shy bladder with the Suboxone on top, it’s just not happening.
4mg a day was still too much for me. I had no will to do anything. My GF left me because I had no desire for sex anymore and just wanted to sleep all day. As well as not do drugs anymore of course.
I hope things get better and you stay on your path! I had one slip up since then but my clinic made me feel cared for.
June 30 2022: She was discharged but still can't pee and had to get a catheter in. the doctor says she will need to learn self-catheterization if she still can't pee after it's removed.
'Subs, wobbly vision, can’t urinate… no hope.' -r/suboxone
I only take 4mg at the moment and within two hours of my dose I get a laundry list of side-effects.
I’m mostly curious if anyone gets super blurry vision… it’s impossible to focus until I take a nap. The more I force my eyes the wobblier they get.
I also lost the ability to urinate while in detox. I had a Foley catheter inserted and it gets removed tomorrow. Dr told me I’ll need to learn self catheterization if I still can’t pee when they remove it.
Does this go away with time? It’s been a month and my doctor wants me to go up to 6mg soon to handle the cravings.
I’m feeling lost. Like everything good from opiates has been stripped away and replaced with even worse side effects and none of the pleasure. Is this even worth it? Is this my life from now on? I haven’t been able to orgasm in a month. I wake up doing weird shit or yelling, I’m always itchy, never hungry, I have no motivation. This sucks. Why even try anymore. Comments
That’s what I was saying to her man! It was making me terribly sick, and I felt like breathing was difficult and always throwing up. She suggested another 2mg that day since she thought I was still in withdrawal. I told her to fuck off with the bupe already.
Not from detox itself. A rare side effect from the Suboxone, I was given too high a dose to start (8mg). It’s like any other opioid in that way. Can cause constipation and lose the ability to pee.
Man… and to think my rehab dr. wants me from 13gpd of Kratom up to 12mg Suboxone instead. They were tired of me being sick all the time at detox so they said they would raise it slowly out-patient once I can pee.
It’s almost like they think kratom is a full blown opioid or equal to heroine or some shit.
The buzz is nice on 2mg though, I think I want to go down and stay at that dose.
Unfortunately I have to go to the dispensary each morning and the nurse watches me take my medication. Only once a day, all at once. I feel spacing it out would help me lots yes, with a lower dose. Once I get “carries” I can take a few days at a time home. I will dose how I need to then!
Oct 19 2022: she posts about cutting off her mother and grandmother due to misgendering, gets lots of encouragement from the trannies. now she is "free but alone". (liberated from: loved ones catheters ) earlier said she had been abused until 18 now says she was on hormones since 17
'Misgendered for over a decade' r/asktransgender
I had my first surgery at 18. I’m now 28. I’ve been on hormones since 17. I’m FTM.
My grandmother (who raised me) and my mother, still refer to me as “She/her”, in private, in public, and one-on-one. I’ve been accommodating for the first 5 years but it’s getting stale. Embarrassing. And is effecting my mental-health.
My grams has been a big part of my life, but she recently cold-shouldered me for more than a week now after I clearly voiced that she needs to grow up and accept who I am. It’s not a slip of the tongue, or accident if you haven’t even TRIED to get my pronouns right for over 10 years.
I’m now at a hard place as I live alone and have no other family. I don’t know if I have the capacity to let go of the toxic people in my life for fear of being alone.
Update: I cut ties. It was liberating. In short, after being raised by Gma, she said she didn’t really care if I talked to her or not. And my “mother” said she’ll always be on her mother’s side.
So, I’m free but alone. NEW CHAPTER. Thanks everyone. Comments
I changed my last name as well when I changed my first! Deep down I think I know I need to cut ties. But it’s hard.
You’d think after your whole outsides look like your desired gender/identity it would be “easier” for them to get it right. But yes… it’s them not being able to, or not wanting to, let go on the human they’ve known at first. Which was a very depressed and unhappy one at that.
Nov 9 2022: Now she wants to take legal action against Brassard. She says she went to Brassard to get a skin graft done to remove the hair growth inside her urethra (which resulted in urinary issues discussed above) and wait to "close it up" (reconnect phallo and neo-urethra) until making sure no hair was growing. Brassard disregarded the surgery they'd agreed to do and that the urologist suggested, and didn't do the skin graft, just "closed it up". now she has hair growing in her urethra again. more surgeries and painkillers in her future!
'Different Surgery that I signed for was done on me.' - r/legaladvice
Hello all. I’m a transgender man (FTM). I went to a surgeon that did a different surgery on me than what I wanted. I signed a consent form for a skin graft that day. When I woke up, I was in extreme pain. When I was able to go to the bathroom, I discovered they did not do a skin graft at all. I had a different stage in my bottom surgery done than what I had wanted done.
I experienced horrible complications and pain due to this negligence.
I haven’t been able to get a hold of the surgeon, and their “team” keeps telling me the surgeon will give me a written explanation for why that was done. It has been five months now, and they keep pushing me off.
What is my first steps towards legal action? Do I have a case at all? Any info will help, thank you! Comments
Hello, no not in the U.S. it was in Canada, we only have one place to go here for these surgeries unfortunately.
Thank you, I’m glad your surgery went smoothly regardless of the surgery change.
I do have a surgeon in my city (Manitoba) that has been a godsend with my complications. My trans surgery’s are in Montréal.
For mine: I had horrible urethral complications with the initial surgery in stage two. So it was “undone” in an emergency back in my city (by a urologist). My emergency urologist back home and the surgeon in Montréal agreed it needed to be done in two stages to fix the issue. A skin graft to remove hair growing in my urethra, and then stage two to close up the urethra. What I told the surgeon in Montréal, was that I wished to wait at least a year after the skin graft to make sure absolutely no hair grew back in the area and it was ok to close up again.
Montréal surgeon chose not do the skin graft AT ALL (she told me this herself after), and just closed it up again via stage two. Thus not listening to what I wanted, or what the urologist suggested. I now have hair re-growing in my urethra again because of it.
I just requested the files yesterday and I’m filling out paperwork they want in order for me to get it. I hope what I find in there will tell me what the fuck they were thinking that day, because the surgeon there has been dodging me for five months.
Technically. She could go to South Korea for that since that's popular there so she might get a fairly good deal there. The only problem is that Koreans generally do not like transgenders so she can't talk about her gender dysphoria there.
I think this part really describes how delusional she is:
She basically wants her "phallus" to just magically transform into actual, functioning genitals. Like, to me at least, these two sentences are all that's needed to know that she will never, ever be satisfied with any surgery results. I don't know, it just stood out to me.
In addition to the usual troon delusion and entitlement, I think we're seeing the spoiled brat part too. It reminds me of the episode of Succession when there's a death in the family and the (hideously wealthy) adult children are basically like "fix it!!" lol. Literally unable to comprehend that no amount of money will buy you a real penis.
Speaking of my mother, I talked to her about all of this, with A LOT of effort from my part bc I had to talk about personal sexual matters, and she told me that she’s only gonna pay the surgery if I go to my og surgeon, and not if I get this new surgery (even urethroplasty) bc she thinks it’s useless and I should be satisfied that I’m able to orgasm with my og genitals (even tho I HATE the current orgasms bc I would want to have them with a penis).
never have and never will talk to my mom about my orgasms.
these creeps and their complete lack of boundaries... then again we are talking about the population that spreads their legs for the entire internet on the daily.
never have and never will talk to my mom about my orgasms.
these creeps and their complete lack of boundaries... then again we are talking about the population that spreads their legs for the entire internet on the daily.
Yeah.
You can imagine the conversation .
MOMMMMuhh this one doesn’t WORK
I KnOW I said I wanted it but that’s cos you didn’t tell me it was the wrong one!uh
-now honey, you had a perfectly good vagina that I made you myself, and then I bought you a penis, I’m putting my foot down.
Real “Cartman throwing a shitfit about an iPad and tantruming his way out of even getting the shittier one” vibes.
Won’t this cruel mother at least buy Aiden dinner first, before she FUCKS HER?
As an aside, I been thinking- none of these surgeries will ever work until they make a very good fake urethra. Apparently there’s a very small amount of things allowed to be permanently placed in bodies.
This is where the effort should be being made, if the madness is gonna go on anyway.
I can't figure out the orientation of the 3rd pic. What are we looking at?
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It’s a shot taken from underneath, possibly her standing and looking up from floor level at the crotch . Bottom right, an orifice of some kind. Top left, rotdog, looked at from underneath. Too tight and bottom left, thighs. Middle, the neutical/fake balls thing.
Couple of spots in that thigh looks nasty. I mean the whole thing looks nasty but there’s a couple of dead spots
Edited to say sorry that’s the fourth one. I think the third is rot dog in right and a thigh on left? Not entirely sure tbh
I looked up the Google reviews of the Crane Center and there's a bit of negative reviews. One of them states that the Crane Center only has plastic surgeons who want to bank off the trans community and that Colorado has better HRT services. Well geez! Is there really a doctor who cares about the trans community? Because they all seem to care about making money off of them.
Here's u/AdornedBrood, a Brassard victim who after phallo was trawling the streets of Manitoba looking for opiates due to pain from urinary complications and now wants to sue him (not for drug reasons)
A lot of these surgeons do both. I don't think it was this person who did u/adornedbrood's phallo because she refers to her surgeon as 'he'. Transbucket has 2 phalloplasty postings done by Brassard and several metoidioplasties.
Will i be accused of being a glowie if i wish a slow and painful death to the butchers? My personal experiences with doctors has been... not good. After covid and their willingness to go along with the troon insanity my opinion of them has reached rock bottom. The worst thing is that they are not delusional about the results. Fuck Psychologists too! The rot runs deep.
And even if sensation is ever restored ... why would you think that a part of your body that never had erotic sensation before, suddenly magically would? Reading about this woman, I formed a mental image of a person frantically rubbing their forearm and expecting to have an orgasm from doing that.
It reminds me of an old joke.
Patient: Doctor, will I be able to play the piano after the operation?
Doctor: Certainly.
Patient: Great, because I never could before!
And even if sensation is ever restored ... why would you think that a part of your body that never had erotic sensation before, suddenly magically would? Reading about this woman, I formed a mental image of a person frantically rubbing their forearm and expecting to have an orgasm from doing that.
It reminds me of an old joke.
Patient: Doctor, will I be able to play the piano after the operation?
Doctor: Certainly.
Patient: Great, because I never could before!
You don't get full-body orgasms from licking your arm like a double-scoop ice cream cone? Maybe you're not trying hard enough. You have to really get enthusiastic with it. Lick a couple circles around the edge and then dive into the middle. Despite what that lady on the bus says, there's no shame in going at it so hard your eyes roll back in your head. Happy orgasming!