Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

What do you think the chances of any of those 3 newly announced Star Wars movies being made are? Last Jedi and Rise were flops that both made considerably less than their predecessor movies and Solo was the first theatrical loss in the film franchise history. At least one movie about fighter pilots was scrapped and I have read that Disney is "scared shitless" of actually doing big budget Star Wars movies now and it all feels like so much vaporware.

The idea of Rey Palpatine getting movies where she is leading some sort of New Jedi Order in place of the dead "Here lies Beavis, He Never Scored" Disney version of Luke Skywalker seems Rian Johnson Trilogy level of not-gonna-happen.

Roundhead's trilogy is stillborn, always was. Ruin is too busy wanking out the murder mysteries and shitting on his audience.

Rogue Squadron was scrapped because Wonder Woman shit the bed meaning Patty lost her magic touch, and Solo tanking.

I bet there is also some shit about the right ladycocks not getting sucked appropriately. Disney being "scared shitless" of anything other than making a movie with a strong, capable, striaght white male protagonist is Doomcuck levels of "Disney civil war" consoomer cope.

I don't know if I'd count on a trilogy, but Daisy "Chest as well rounded as her acting ability" Rizzle coming back to take another heaping shit on Star Wars as a D+ exclusive isn't out of lane.


Anyway I said it before and I'll say it again: It costs Disney nothing to announce a project and then see what the social media reaction is. Don't believe shit until you see sets getting built and paychecks being signed.

Though paying Taika Waititi to keep him from making anything for a competitor probably makes sense. He's a competent dirctor and while I think his output is shit, so is the average person's taste apparently.
 
I feel like a trilogy with Rey and friends could have worked
How? She's such a bland Mary Sue who cannot carry a movie on her own. The supporting cast sucked too, regardless of how good the actors are. That's why they shoved the OT cast in the sequels as much as possible.
Though paying Taika Waititi to keep him from making anything for a competitor probably makes sense.
According to """rumors""" online Waititi's still trying to make his unnecessary Akira remake at WB, so he's busy with that right now.
 
How? She's such a bland Mary Sue who cannot carry a movie on her own. The supporting cast sucked too, regardless of how good the actors are. That's why they shoved the OT cast in the sequels as much as possible.
Okay, here's what I would have done, off the top of my head.
1st movie would take place decades after the New Republic has been established, and have the Empire exist as the Imperial Alliance, almost dividing the galaxy in half. Leia is the Chancellor of the Republic, Han an Officer, and Luke is A Jedi Master having successfully rebuilt the order on Yavin 4. They are not in the 1st movie much if at all. The opening is a border skirmish between Galactic troopers and Republic Commandos

Fin as a storm trooper is a good plot point, but I'd have the sequence be that his 1st combat actually ends wit him getting separated and presumed dead by his squad. He manages to escape capture by the Republic and is helped out by someone he meets on the planet, Rey who is trapped in a dull existence and jumps at the chance for adventure. Together they steal a ship from a smuggler and escape the planet, but Rey skipping out on a debt leads to a pursuit from some of the world's criminal elements.

Meanwhile, we are introduced to The imperial council, arguing about their next move, when we meet the main villain, Kylo Ren, who is not a moody piss baby, but a dark Jedi set on restoring the Sith without the rule of 2. Kylo has been training sith apprentices for the Imperials, and in return the Imperials have been gathering Sith artifacts for Kylo (which was the purpose of the skirmish in the opening). Kylo claims that there was an artifact rumored to be on the planet that the imperial's missed, and so sends an apprentice to go and find it. The apprentice can be Darth anything you want, but let's say Talon for the sake of fan service.

Darth Talon goes to the planet and learns that the two fugitives have the artifact (unknowingly) and pursues the two of them. So then the bulk of the movie would be Fin and Rey having hijinks across several planets chased by gangsters, Imperial Agents, and with Darth Talon getting closer and closer to catching them. During the various sequences we learn Rey has a small puzzle box she keeps on her at all times that was supposedly from her mother (it contains a sith holocron) and ties into her eventual backstory reveal. Both Finn and Rey manage to do force esque things during the various chases, showing that they are both somewhat force sensitive, but in a "push a button from far away" kind of way, not Mah-Rey-Sue Disney way.

Regardless the final act is eventually Darth Talon catches up with the two of them, and corners them after an incredible one sided beating. Talon snatches the puzzle box from Rey and then turns her attention to Finn. Just as Talon is going to kill Finn, she gets force pushed through a nearby wall. Rey and Fin look and see they have a rescuer. A Tall lanky man in a robe, removes hid hood and says "My name is Ben Solo and I'm here to rescue you".(Ben Solo is going to be a different character from Kylo) Ben directs them to go to a ship and stays behind to hold off Talon for a while, and we get a cool lightsaber fight. Talon flees when things seem to be going badly and Ben joins our other two characters. on a ship. He explains that they were sensed through the force, and by reports of the bedlam caused by their escapades, and that he is a jedi.

The final scenes are Talon returning the box to Kylo, who reveals that it is a sith holocron left by Darth Tyrannus, and we get a shot of holographic Christopher Lee to hammer in the point for the dummies in the audience. For the good guys, Ben tells them he is going to take Rey and Finn somewhere safe, and that someone is excited to meet them.

Final shot of the movie is a slow pan up temple steps to reveal a meditating Luke Skywalker with his eyes closed. RAs the camera bans in close to his face he opens his eyes and smiles. Cue John Williams music.

I'm sleepy, but I'll do part 2 and 3 later if you'd like.
 
The ideal would be to not even bother trying to come up with a plot device with a multiverse and alternate timelines and just axe everything from the Disney buyout on. Star Wars is not the place for multiverse or time travel shenanigans, despite how much Furloni wants to abuse them to save his precious jailbait waifu. Any sort of alternate "what if"/Infinities stories have been firmly declared non-canon from the start, so there's no need to try and keep wrangling a thousand different versions of Star Wars around like Marvel and DC have been doing for decades. Simply declare Disney's efforts non-canon (and/or claim it's all one big Infinities "what if everything ended up sucking after RotJ?" story), restore the EU, and refuse to ever address any of that garbage again.
This. Using time travel bullshit to have Rey or Ahsoka to be the creator of a "better" timeline is not only horribly lazy but opens up Star Wars to the same sort of multiversal garbage and infinite cosmic clones of the same characters that plagues capeshit and so many other franchises now.

Yeah I don't know why people bother with Disney's productions.
There is no consensus anymore, everyone is doing whatever they want when they want. This character who has a mutal crush with the lead? Nope, in lesbians with a pansexual stormtrooper now. Conflicted kid thrown into a galactic war? Now sadistic killer.
Canon is gatekeeping shit lord, just get excited for next product.

Nothing Mando does matters. The Mandalorians are too cucked and gay to do anything during Sequel Trilogy so either whatever gay

Baby Yeeds is inexperienced or too dead and/or gay to keep Ben from going full emo, or stop Luke from being a walrus cuck, or help Leia train Rey to be all The Jedi or help against Palpatine (who has somehow returned). It doesn't matter. Ditto for Ahsoka.

Its been almost 10 years at this point, there has been no course correction. Furloni will do whatever it is that will let him masturbate to more Wolf Fic and put the same 4 of his OC's into every single fucking property. Favr-fav will toe whatever DEI line he's told to toe by the higher ups.

There is no civil war, nothing is going to save the franchise, and people who still mindlessly consoom & then get excited for next product mystify me. Almost as much as the people who say they hate the output but then come to give their takes on every single show Disney puts out the day the new episodes drop.
You've said it best before. Its like an addiction. A desire to eat shit even when they know its shit and the people producing shit make it clear that things won't stop tasting like shit. Even Doomcock is too proud to eat crow and admit he was wrong because his fanbase wants quick excuses to keep watching even when they know that they're dissatisfied.

Done. Not sure if it flows right, but I placed it near the beginning of Dave's section since the material focuses on the Clone Wars show.
Now that I've seen it, I think Mississippi's post might be more fitting for that section than my new post. Screenshots from magazine's get the job done better than links Filoni fans don't want to read.


I've posted about Lucas' involvement in the TCW show if you're interested in reading that, but if you need further convincing of Lucas relegating the show to another product to boost the brand, like Genndy Wars and Force Unleashed before it, as well as future projects like Underworld....here's a quote from Lucas from 2012 increasing his involvement in various LFL Projects, which is around the time he'd distanced himself from the bulk of TCW's production, and both Gilroy and Filoni were enacting larger creative control over the storyline:

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Now, as with anything from Lucas, it's important not to take everything he says as gospel...because he makes contradictory and inconsistent statements a lot (the number of times he's revised the actual planning of the OT, and how many films the saga was initially supposed to be, is beyond count). But this quote, I'll reinforce again, is from around TCW Season 4, and with the series initially planned to have 8 seasons at least (before a certain Disney purchase put those plans to rest). You don't have to take it as definitive proof of anything, but after the first three seasons (where Lucas' influence can be felt the strongest), Lucas seemingly had one foot out the door when it came to directly supervising all projects, and had taken a more relaxed, aloof role to it all.

It's one of the reasons why he encouraged Ron D Moore to "go nuts" when it came to pitching/writing storylines for the unmade Underworld show. As long as new content was being made and sustaining LFL's self-funded model, he was fine with it, even if he didn't consider them official extensions of his personal saga.

All media, from books to comics to video games fell under this umbrella. The shows, both made and unmade, were not an exception. It's partially why they were assigned the "T" status on the canon ranking by the licensing division. Part of the canon, but not on the same level of Lucas' saga.

Lucas did not consider the EU his storyline or one that he was beholden to, but to say he "didn't care" implies he had no involvement or was simply dismissive of it as licensed material that had zero importance to the brand. And that simply isn't true.

He was very open and personally involved with the EU authors, largely because he respected them as fellow creatives. Regardless of whether or not he saw their works as legitimate extensions of his universe, he recognized their importance for maintaining the image of quality for the brand, and the creative fruit that could be yielded by others playing around in his personal narrative sandbox.

Not because I say he was involved, because the authors said he was involved:

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You might write this off as the authors simply promoting their work and assuring fans that Lucas had some involvement in what they were crafting...but that's precisely what Filoni does in interviews to justify any creative decision he makes....despite his claims never being substantiated from Lucas' mouth even once.

If it's not illegitimate when Filoni does it, it's not magically less legitimate when all these other authors do as well. Again, I don't say this to vilify anyone who likes TCW, or appreciates Lucas' passing involvement in that series.

But if you're going to hand TCW the crown of legitimacy based on quotes from Filoni regarding how "intimately involved" Lucas was on the show, then you need to be consistent in regards to that same rhetoric coming from creators involved elsewhere in the company's various media divisions.

Okay, I was willing to give the previous points raised some benefit of the doubt, but using this as some kind talking point and proof of Lucas' stamp of approval is actually hilarious, because he's been invited to the sets of productions multiple times, well before the Mandalorian even aired. Companies do this for both PR and as a gesture of goodwill to Lucas in light of his industry contributions...that does not equivocate to those productions "having his blessing" or "him being creatively involved".

For instance, Lucas was also invited to visit the sets of The Last Jedi, Solo: A Star Wars Story, and even Game of Thrones during the filming of its final season. Will you actually argue that just because Lucas visited those sets, and took pictures with Rian Johnson and Emilia Clark that he was somehow involved in those productions?
 
I can't help but imagine they're gonna have Baby Yeed now speaking in the same language capability of a 5 year old.
Cutesy kid talking brings up bad memories of TPM

Baby Yeed should not talk and stick to retard baby noises

Think how inclusive it would be if he actually IS retarded. A retarded Jedi. So stunning and bwave
 
You've said it best before. Its like an addiction.
As Moff Gideon says:
Never. Trust. A Consoomer.

A desire to eat shit even when they know its shit and the people producing shit make it clear that things won't stop tasting like shit. Even Doomcock is too proud to eat crow and admit he was wrong because his fanbase wants quick excuses to keep watching even when they know that they're dissatisfied.
Oh I mean I know why. Consoomers with no self respect or self-realization. I just can't fully wrap my head around the mindset. I understand there are people who get sexual gratification from eating poop, I just can't understand the thought process that gets you there.

Hell, Doomcuck at least has an excuse. He has to keep selling hopium about the franchise maybe not being completely gay in the future to buck broke nerds, or his viewership vanishes and he has to find a new gimmick or get a real job. I think he's a probably a tool of Disney running controlled opposition, but his continue spinning of lies and peddling of cope makes sense - nigga getting paid.
The cucks pay Disney to consoom shit as soon as its available.
 
What do you think the chances of any of those 3 newly announced Star Wars movies being made are? Last Jedi and Rise were flops that both made considerably less than their predecessor movies and Solo was the first theatrical loss in the film franchise history. At least one movie about fighter pilots was scrapped and I have read that Disney is "scared shitless" of actually doing big budget Star Wars movies now and it all feels like so much vaporware.

The idea of Rey Palpatine getting movies where she is leading some sort of New Jedi Order in place of the dead "Here lies Beavis, He Never Scored" Disney version of Luke Skywalker seems Rian Johnson Trilogy level of not-gonna-happen.
Roundhead's trilogy is stillborn, always was. Ruin is too busy wanking out the murder mysteries and shitting on his audience.

Rogue Squadron was scrapped because Wonder Woman shit the bed meaning Patty lost her magic touch, and Solo tanking.

I bet there is also some shit about the right ladycocks not getting sucked appropriately. Disney being "scared shitless" of anything other than making a movie with a strong, capable, striaght white male protagonist is Doomcuck levels of "Disney civil war" consoomer cope.

I don't know if I'd count on a trilogy, but Daisy "Chest as well rounded as her acting ability" Rizzle coming back to take another heaping shit on Star Wars as a D+ exclusive isn't out of lane.


Anyway I said it before and I'll say it again: It costs Disney nothing to announce a project and then see what the social media reaction is. Don't believe shit until you see sets getting built and paychecks being signed.

Though paying Taika Waititi to keep him from making anything for a competitor probably makes sense. He's a competent dirctor and while I think his output is shit, so is the average person's taste apparently.
I've seen disney circles try to hopelessly claim that this Rey film "will happen" because Kennedy and the rest "formally" announced it at the SW Celebration and because every online outlet is talking about it, yet they forget that Patty Jenkins' cancelled not-Rogue Squadron film had an even bigger announcement years ago with dozens of interviews and even a teaser and promotional art made for its reveal before it was unceremoniously canned (like all the other Disney Wars film projects), while the Rey one is just some throwaway announcement at a mediocre convention.
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If they were willing to cancel RS after so much publicity, then this Rey film doesn't have much of a chance, especially since Ridley's career has been in the gutter as of late and Carrie Fisher is fucking dead. At the end of the day, most of the discussion surrounding the film now is either from disgruntled fans or unironic Daisy Ridley simps and Reylos who are desperate to have Emo Ren's ghost knock her up so they can self-insert as him in the imaginary sex scene because we live in an age of weirdo shippers who get off to pretending they're in (parasocial) relationships with celebrities and vtubers.

Even if a Rey movie does happen, it will probably be released on Disney+ as either a film or a miniseries and will suffer the same fate as Willow Nutwood, Soul, Strange Worlds and others like them or get dumped off in Filoni's "Mandoverse" by tying Rey to Baby Yeed to ensure his fans supply Rey with much needed views. But my bet is on this whole thing being a big nothing burger, just another cheap publicity stunt to maintain the faith of investors just like all their other movie announcements, especially now after Disney suffered such a major drop of worth because of Disney+ and being forced to lay off thousands of employees just to make up for it.


Anyway... I also wish to remind anyone who hasn't to go read Iger's autobiography if you really want to know about the mindset of Disney's management when it came to handling Star Wars since the negotiations began, where it becomes clear that even Iger and co never had a good idea of what to do with it and just saw it as a quick way to expand Disney's influence and break into new demographics, and as an added bonus, keeping Filoni Wars "canon" was never even part of the negotiations or even worthy of an entry in his autobio, and that fat fuck Hidalgo only claimed as such because Lucasfilm and Disney Channel wanted to ensure the TFW viewers would be interested in Aladdin Rebels. The only thing Iger wanted was to increase his influence, hence why it always feels like Lucasfilm has no idea what to do except pump out constant bullshit to please investors.
(The Ride of a Lifetime, by Disney CEO Robert Iger)
@Godzilla@1989 you might enjoy this more than most others since it confirms a lot of your suspicions.
I liked Ahmed Best as a Jedi. He looked cool. Good for him. Fuck the people who shat on him for playing JarJar back in the day. Like the assholes who harrassed what’s his name who played Peck in Ghostbusters. People are fucking idiots.
I think Jake Lloyd had it worse. At least Ahmed Best was an adult and was able to salvage his life despite his thoughts of suicide, and it helped that your average joe didn't bother to look up Jar Jar's human performer. Meanwhile Lloyd was just a kid at the time and you had not just retarded OT spergs and classmates harping on him, but celebrity talk shows and media outlets dunking on the poor kid constantly even years after the film which irreparably ruined his life, career, childhood and mental health. Now he's a tragic mess who still gets dunked on while getting himself into legal problems and podracing car accidents.
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Yeah Lucas has always been unreliable. Like how he wandered from 9 eps to 6 and back.
Back in the day after return of the Jedi there was an article in MAD of "lol imagine if they actually made prequel and sequel trilogies hahaha that would be crazy"
In their version it's Luke who's true father is The Force rather than Vader

iirc Holiday Special also popped up in R2D2: Under The Dome
It was on tv around ep 1 and I think was packed in with the first run of TPM home video maybe
Basically it was a parody of the VH1 Behind the Music stuff, portraying Artoo as a real robot who got famous fast from Star Wars, started drinking and drugging to the gills, and at one point one of the people interviewed (I think actually Lucas) mentioned "Artoo trying to get into directing, apparently he tried to make some Holiday Special but I dunno if it got made" or some joke along those lines
Do I need to say more? Imagine if you worked your whole life trying to perfect a creative vision to a bunch of people that are never satisfied with anything that you do unless it's what they picture.

You know what I'm so glad George Lucas gotten rid of this parasitic fandom off of his conscience over to the most woke establishment that could afford it. Why would he want to go back being the butt of every joke when you have people claiming he raped their childhood even though he was the one that gave them one in the first place.

Yeah I know the song is a tongue in cheek parody but looked at the wrong context can really make anyone regret ever lowering themselves to their level.
 
Do I need to say more? Imagine if you worked your whole life trying to perfect a creative vision to a bunch of people that are never satisfied with anything that you do unless it's what they picture.

You know what I'm so glad George Lucas gotten rid of this parasitic fandom off of his conscience over to the most woke establishment that could afford it. Why would he want to go back being the butt of every joke when you have people claiming he raped their childhood even though he was the one that gave them one in the first place.

Yeah I know the song is a tongue in cheek parody but looked at the wrong context can really make anyone regret ever lowering themselves to their level.
There really ought to be a new version of this video about Disney and Kennedy. Perafably made by Zoomers who grew up on the Prequels.
 
Do I need to say more? Imagine if you worked your whole life trying to perfect a creative vision to a bunch of people that are never satisfied with anything that you do unless it's what they picture.

You know what I'm so glad George Lucas gotten rid of this parasitic fandom off of his conscience over to the most woke establishment that could afford it. Why would he want to go back being the butt of every joke when you have people claiming he raped their childhood even though he was the one that gave them one in the first place.

Yeah I know the song is a tongue in cheek parody but looked at the wrong context can really make anyone regret ever lowering themselves to their level.
I'm afraid I don't follow what that has to do with Lucas telling different stories about how many eps he planned or a funny af gag about the Holiday Special.
Was that supposed to quote different post?
 
I liked Ahmed Best as a Jedi. He looked cool. Good for him. Fuck the people who shat on him for playing JarJar back in the day. Like the assholes who harrassed what’s his name who played Peck in Ghostbusters. People are fucking idiots.
He's actually fairly good as a game show host. The entire series of Jedi Temple Challenge is on Youtube, so it's easy to look up.
 
Do I need to say more? Imagine if you worked your whole life trying to perfect a creative vision to a bunch of people that are never satisfied with anything that you do unless it's what they picture.
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How ironic.
Why would he want to go back being the butt of every joke when you have people claiming he raped their childhood even though he was the one that gave them one in the first place.
This. From 1999 to 2013 or so the fans shat over damn near every creative choice or decision George made at Lucasfilm. I don't feel too bad about them though. Going by the undeserved praise of the sequels (at first) and Rogue One, Disney gave them exactly what they asked for.
 
Do I need to say more? Imagine if you worked your whole life trying to perfect a creative vision to a bunch of people that are never satisfied with anything that you do unless it's what they picture.

You know what I'm so glad George Lucas gotten rid of this parasitic fandom off of his conscience over to the most woke establishment that could afford it. Why would he want to go back being the butt of every joke when you have people claiming he raped their childhood even though he was the one that gave them one in the first place.

Yeah I know the song is a tongue in cheek parody but looked at the wrong context can really make anyone regret ever lowering themselves to their level.
That's something I never understood as a kid. Sure, the Prequel movies were goofy as fuck, (I described them in the past as Michael Bay without the sex jokes) but most directors have their duds now and then, and the Prequels were more fun than most duds; they were fun, they had nice graphics and nice battles, and there was some neat world-building which explained why so many people would sign up to serve the cartoonishly evil Empire, giving them some depth and rationale behind their existence.

Without the Prequels, the Imperials are just cartoon goofball villains who are evil for evil's sake. (ie. think Cobra Commander kicking a puppy for shits and giggles) With the Prequels, you begin to understand that many of these Imperials were jaded servants of the Old Republic, tired of its weakness and lax climate. Vader grew up as a slave in the supposedly anti-slavery Republic, which caused him much grief in his youth, while Palpatine saw firsthand how corrupt the system is, to the point where he began to manipulate said corruption for his own ends. Their response to the Republic's problems was to go full-throttle towards the opposite direction.

Granted, that just caused its own share of problems down the line, exacerbated further by Vader and Palpatine's judgement being clouded by their addiction towards the Dark Side, but it at least explains why trillions upon trillions of people outside of Tarkin, Palpatine, and Vader supported the idea of an Empire that ensured stability through fear.

But for the people who didn't like the Prequels, I never understood why they were so obsessed by it. They can just pretend like the Prequels don't exist, like how many fans do today with the Sequel Trilogy. Instead, they created this whole subculture of hating Lucas because he did something they didn't like, despite the fact that other great directors don't get shit in their face for doing something stupid now and then. Nobody constantly harasses M. Night Shyamalan over his bad Last Airbender movie, and few people care that James Cameron's Avatar was about as profound as wet tissue paper being used to wipe the crocodile tears shed by white liberals pretending to care about the plight of natives whose ancestors were mistreated by white people in the past.

Were there things to be hated about the Prequels? Sure. Lots of people didn't like Jar-Jar, even though I didn't really see him as annoying, he's just there. Dooku could've used a better send-off, especially since they had Christopher Lee playing him; having him die like a chump in the opening act made little sense to me. The way they handled Anakin falling to the Dark Side was about as subtle as a freight train smashing into an SUV, and there were better ways to communicate it other than having Anakin kill children TWICE, but for all the problems they had, they had way more fun stuff that, quite frankly, were still memorable and awesome. They were flawed, but fun films that were no more worse than the slop Hollywood was barfing out at the time.

The originals had their problems too, especially in Return of the Jedi, which was so rushed it was practically diving into the finish line. The Ewoks, Vader's inconsistent characterization (LOL one moment he wants Luke to help him kill the Emperor, the next, he's the Emperor's bitch? Even Lego Star Wars noted that problem and fixed it by having Vader and Luke tag-team the Emperor) and the space battle making so little sense as to why the good guys won, to the point where the first thing the Thrawn novels did about it was make up a new Force power to explain why the Imperials lost.

So basically, this whole "FUCK LUCAS" culture surrounding the Prequels never made sense to me. At worst, the Prequels deserve a B-, and they didn't rape anyone's childhoods. If you didn't like them, just ignore them and make up your own story about the past lives of Vader and Obi-Wan before the OT movies. Kind of like how the people who hated the Sequels just pretended that the Thrawn Trilogy, Dark Empire, Crimson Empire, and the Jedi Knight games are the real sequels to the OT. (Because let's face it, they were.) But constantly whining about how bad Lucas is, to the point where the man gets tired of all the whining and sells his company to some "White Slavers", really takes the cake. Before Kathleen Kennedy, Lucas got all this hate arrayed against him.

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This. From 1999 to 2013 or so the fans shat over damn near every creative choice or decision George made at Lucasfilm. I don't feel too bad about them though. Going by the undeserved praise of the sequels (at first) and Rogue One, Disney gave them exactly what they asked for.
It's like what I said before; Disney Star Wars is what the people deserved after shitting on Lucas for the better part of a decade before he sold the farm. And yes, Disney DID give them what they asked for; Rogue One and TFA were OT-pandering nostalgia bait, and the same whiners who hated Lucas fell for those two films, hook-line and sinker. It was only TLJ which caused people to hate on Star Wars and Disney, and they began to reverse their opinions on Lucas. But even if Lucas could buy Star Wars back from Disney, I don't think he'd want to.

Having received all that hate back in the day, and knowing that the fans will hate him no matter what he did, Lucas probably enjoys his continued absence from Lucasfilm, and his newfound privacy with all his money, all the while letting KK and Disney soak up all the heat from the fanboys while he sits on his ass and enjoys what's left of his life, with all his money. He gets to live like a king on his own terms, while the suits get all the crap he used to deal with. He doesn't care; as far as he's concerned, Star Wars begins with Episode I and ends with Episode VI, and everything after that is naught but fluff to him.
 
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That's something I never understood as a kid. Sure, the Prequel movies were goofy as fuck, (I described them in the past as Michael Bay without the sex jokes) but most directors have their duds now and then, and the Prequels were more fun than most duds; they were fun, they had nice graphics and nice battles, and there was some neat world-building which explained why so many people would sign up to serve the cartoonishly evil Empire, giving them some depth and rationale behind their existence.

Again, you cannot replicate the utter insanity of the media blitz for the Prequels. It was EVERYWHERE. Channels were publishing the times they'd showing the fucking trailer. There were specials, corporate tie ins, Darth Maul looking sick as fuck. The hype for the first star wars in 13 years was real.
And then we got the Phantom Menance & Manakin Skywalker. Which was not terrible but it was definitely, definitely was not the shit we'd been hyped up to get ever since the Special Editions two years previous.

Watching again, 20 years later, without the hype machine having run full blast its easier to give TPM a kinder, more leveled look.

If you are a kid, and your parents have been telling you for over a year we're "going somewhere fun near orlando!" and instead of Disney World its the Florida State Fair, there is absolutely no way you're going to be able to have a good time and your tantrum, while potentially overblown, is totally justified. If you'd just been told you were going to the State Fair, you'd have been disapointed it wasn't Disney World, but you'd have gotten over it and had a good time.

AotC I think deserves the hate it got. The Dialogue is so fucking bad. The movie has some really good sequences but as a whole film it is an utter fucking mess. But on release, it got kicked extra hard because people were holding out hope 'Hey first chapter was a little slow! Its ok! Clearly Lucas will knock it out the park with the next one. Clone Wars, dude!' And despite having Natalie Portman in her prime wearing the outfit it was not the redemption for TPM that people were looking for.
 
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