Science It Is Now 50 Years Since Gay People Were “Cured"

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KEY POINTS​

  • This year marks the 50th anniversary of the American Psychiatric Association’s removal of homosexuality from its Diagnostic Manual.
  • The APA’s revision was the beginning of the end of organized medicine’s participation in the social stigmatization of homosexuality.
  • Charles Silverstein, who was crucial in persuading the APA to change, recently died.
by Jack Drescher, MD, member of the LGBTQ Committee of the Group for Advancement of Psychiatry
This year marks the 50th anniversary of the American Psychiatric Association’s removal of homosexuality from its Diagnostic Manual in 1973. The decision, and the reasoning behind it, made for was a culture-changing event. It led to an important shift in mental health practices as clinicians stopped asking questions like “What causes homosexuality?” and “How can we change it?” nd focused instead on the health and mental-health needs of LGBTQ patient populations. January 2023 saw the passing of Charles Silverstein, Ph.D., an important figure who participated in persuading APA to bring about this diagnostic change.

Why Change Was Needed​

In 1973...:
  • Homosexual behavior was criminalized in most U.S. states.
  • Openly gay men and women were banned from serving in the U.S. military. If a gay person in the military came out or was outed by someone else, they could be court-martialed and discharged.
  • Being gay was grounds for being fired from a U.S. government job. This is what happened to Frank Kameny, who, in 1957, lost his job as an astronomer with the U.S. government after it was discovered that he had once pleaded guilty to a legal charge of homosexual activity. Kameny, both a scientist and an activist, would go on to become a leader in persuading APA to make diagnostic changes.
  • An openly gay physician, psychiatrist, or other mental-health professional could lose their state license to practice.
  • Most Americans were unlikely to approve of gay marriage, otherwise known as marriage equality. The question of how Americans felt about marriage equality did not even appear in major polls and surveys until the 1980s.

How Diagnostic Change Happened​

Psychiatric diagnosing of homosexuality as a mental disorder began in the 19th century, most prominently in the work of Richard von Krafft-Ebing, who thought it was due to “degeneration” of the nervous system—degeneracy being a now-disproven medical theory of that era.
Sigmund Freud directly disagreed with Krafft-Ebing’s concept of homosexuality as an illness and instead saw it as a “developmental arrest,” a kind of psychological immaturity. However, by the middle of the 20th century, the belief that homosexuality was a mental disorder was the prevailing view among psychiatrists and most of Freud’s psychoanalytic followers. Thus, in 1952, when the APA published the first edition of its Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM-I), it classified “homosexuality” as a “sociopathic personality disturbance.” In the DSM-II, published in 1968, homosexuality was classified as a “sexual deviation.”

These psychiatric perspectives on homosexuality were drawn from a skewed sample of patients seeking treatment for homosexuality or other difficulties and studies of prison populations. Sexologists, on the other hand, conducted field studies that recruited large numbers of non-patient subjects in the general population. Most prominent among them was Alfred Kinsey, whose team surveyed thousands of people who were not psychiatric patients. They found homosexuality to be more common in the general population than was generally believed—a finding at odds with psychiatric claims of the time that homosexuality was extremely rare in the general population.

However, American psychiatry mostly ignored the growing body of sex research that saw homosexuality as normal. In Kinsey's case, they expressed extreme hostility to any findings that contradicted their own pathologizing theories. All this changed in the wake of the 1969 Stonewall riots in New York City, an event that energized gay and lesbian activists who believed psychiatric diagnosis to be a major contributor to anti-homosexual social stigma.

What did the activists do? They disrupted the normally staid 1970 and 1971 annual meetings of the APA. In doing so, they succeeded in getting the APA’s attention, leading to unprecedented educational panels at the group’s next two annual meetings. A 1971 panel, entitled “Gay is Good” featured Kameny, Barbara Gittings, and Ron Gold, who explained to psychiatrists, many of whom were hearing it for the first time, the stigma caused by the “homosexuality” diagnosis. Kameny and Gittings returned in 1972, this time joined by John Fryer, who appeared as Dr. H Anonymous, a “homosexual psychiatrist" who, given the realistic fear of adverse professional consequences for coming out at that time, disguised his true identity from the audience and spoke of the discrimination gay psychiatrists faced in their own profession.

The APA also engaged in a slow, internal deliberative process to consider the question of whether homosexuality should remain a psychiatric diagnosis. In February 1973, Silverstein addressed the committee charged with making recommendations to APA’s Board of Trustees (BOT), introducing the committee to the science of the time that challenged the existing illness model. After noting some humorous aspects of historical diagnoses, he concluded, “To continue to classify homosexuality as a disorder is as valid today as was the diagnosis of masturbation in the 1942 edition. What we hope to convey to you is that we have paid the price for your past mistake. Don’t make it again.”
The committee wrestled with the question of what constitutes a mental disorder. Robert Spitzer, who chaired the subcommittee looking into the issue, finally concluded that a mental disorder had to cause subjective distress or impairment in social functioning. Having arrived at a novel definition of mental disorder—one that would change future DSM editions until the present—the committee agreed that homosexuality per se was not one.

Several other APA committees and deliberative bodies then reviewed and accepted their work and recommendations. As a result, in December 1973, APA’s Board of Trustees voted to remove homosexuality from the DSM. Psychiatrists from the psychoanalytic community, however, objected to the decision. They petitioned the APA to hold a referendum asking the entire membership to vote either in support of or against the BOT decision. A 58% majority of 10,000 voting members upheld the decision to remove. It should be noted that psychiatrists did not vote, as is often reported in the popular press, on whether homosexuality should remain a diagnosis. What APA members voted on was to either “favor” or “oppose” the APA BOT decision and, by extension, the scientific process the Board had set up to make the determination.
Since then, opponents of the 1973 removal have tried to discredit the referendum’s outcome by declaring, “Science cannot be decided by a vote.” Yet, in 2006, the International Astronomical Union voted on whether Pluto was a planet, demonstrating that even in a hard science like astronomy, the interpretation of facts is always filtered through human subjectivity.

The Impact of Diagnostic Change​

APA’s diagnostic revision was the beginning of the end of organized medicine’s official participation in the social stigmatization of homosexuality. Similar shifts gradually took place in the international mental health community as well. For example, in 1990, the World Health Organization removed homosexuality per se from the International Classification of Diseases (ICD-10). In the ICD revision of 2019, the F66 diagnoses that still pathologized same-sex expression were removed from ICD-11.

Without a medical or scientific rationalization for discrimination, debates about homosexuality gradually shifted away from medicine and psychiatry and into the moral and political realms of religion, government, the military, the media, and educational institutions. As a result, cultural attitudes about homosexuality changed in the U.S. and other countries as those who accept scientific authority on such matters gradually came to accept the normalizing view.

The reasoning behind acceptance went like this: If homosexuality is no longer considered an illness, if one does not literally accept biblical prohibitions against it, and if gay people are able and prepared to function as productive citizens, then what is wrong with being gay? Further, if there is nothing wrong with being gay, what moral and legal principles should society endorse in helping gay people openly live their lives?

The result, in many countries, eventually led to..:
  • the repeal of sodomy laws that criminalized homosexuality—in 2003, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that sodomy laws still on the books in thirteen states were unconstitutional.
  • the enactment of laws protecting the human rights of lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) people in society and the workplace.
  • the ability of LGBT personnel to serve openly in the military.
  • marriage equality and civil unions in an ever-growing number of countries; in most recent polls, more than 70% of Americans support marriage equality.
  • the facilitation of gay parents’ adoption rights.
  • the facilitation of gay spouses’ rights of inheritance.
  • an ever-increasing number of religious denominations allowing openly gay people to serve as clergy.
  • a pathway had been paved for the emerging movement for transgender rights; echoing the 1973 APA decision, the World Health Organization revised its ICD-10 diagnosis of transsexualism to Gender Incongruence in the ICD-11 and moved the diagnosis out of the mental disorders section.

References
A more detailed history of how change occurred can be found in Ronald Bayer’s Homosexuality and American Psychiatry: The Politics of Diagnosis (1987). Princeton, NJ: Princeton University Press.
Drescher, J. (2015). Out of DSM: Depathologizing homosexuality. Behavioral Sciences, 5:565-575.
Drescher, J. & Merlino, J.P., eds. (2007). American Psychiatry and Homosexuality: An Oral History. New York: Routledge.
 
The only thing different is who I'm attracted to, but ultimately I want the same thing most people do, which is to be in a long term, loving relationship with someone. Too bad that when I thought I had that it got ripped away from me by the same type of beliefs being espoused in this thread.

Sure I can't have kids, but lots of straight folks can't have kids either or simply choose not to, so I don't think that would be a fair criticism.
A person who believes they are in the right will not see how they're wrong no matter how hard you try to convince them. The fact that you're a furry on top of being gay means you are a degenerate. You couldn't just be gay; you had to be sexually attracted to animal characteristics, too. There is something wrong with you socially, otherwise you would not be a furry. Your community is infested with pedophiles, groomers, animal rapists, trans groomers, trannies, coomers, and people who are sexually attracted to ANIMALS. Not even the anime community has the amount of issues that furries have, and the anime community is much bigger. So you can stop the delusions.
 
And neither am I. You are wishing death on others however, which I certainly didn't do.

Im every place and time where homosexuality has been accepted, its been hand in hand with pederasty. The two are synonymous.
The only thing different is who I'm attracted to, but ultimately I want the same thing most people do, which is to be in a long term, loving relationship with someone.
Uhuh. The gays just want to be in healthy,monogamous, married relationships!

Uhuh. You're at least 10 years too late for anyone to believe that shit anymore.
 
I'm perfectly fine, other than the normal issues everyone has. I've been in relationships, I'm productive, I care about my family/friends, etc.

The only thing different is who I'm attracted to, but ultimately I want the same thing most people do, which is to be in a long term, loving relationship with someone. Too bad that when I thought I had that it got ripped away from me by the same type of beliefs being espoused in this thread.

Sure I can't have kids, but lots of straight folks can't have kids either or simply choose not to, so I don't think that would be a fair criticism.
You deal with your condition the best you can, doesn't mean you aren't diseased. Sure you might be 'one of the good ones' - and good on you if that's true! - but gays as a whole aren't. Drug use, STD's, hyper-sexuality, depression, and other correlated mental health disorders are rampant among gay men; far outstripping the normal population. It's gotten worse as gays have gotten more of what they asked for. It's not a debate; or a discussion we know these things as facts. Being gay is a lifestyle that drastically shortens your life, drastically increases likelyhood of substance abuse, drastically increases the frequency of casual sexual partners, drastically decreases the age of first sexual encounter.

It's a deviant lifestyle, with lots of very negative consequences for the person choosing to engage in it, no different from substance abuse. The success and failure of individuals doesn't matter in the face of the overwhelming actions of the larger community I'm afraid.
 
Uhuh. The gays just want to be in healthy,monogamous, married relationships!

Uhuh. You're at least 10 years too late for anyone to believe that shit anymore.
You can't generalize an entire group of people like that. Some want that, some don't. At the end of the day "gay" is a lose collection of individuals who share one singular common trait: liking the same sex.

I was in a healthy, monogamous relationship for several years, before it failed for reasons beyond my control...and before you say it, no it wasn't because they cheated.
A person who believes they are in the right will not see how they're wrong no matter how hard you try to convince them.
I have done nothing wrong, I know that for a fact. You on the other hand have an irrational hate for me, a person you've never met, because of who I'm attracted to.

You know, even though I disagree with you I don't hate you. I do worry about your hatred impacting your future patients though, should you be telling the truth about your studies.
depression, and other correlated mental health disorders are rampant among gay men
A community of people who end up bullied, rejected, often disowned and have self-hate instilled from a young age end up with a disproportionate amount of mental health issues? You don't say.
 
A community of people who end up bullied, rejected, often disowned and have self-hate instilled from a young age end up with a disproportionate amount of mental health issues? You don't say.
Nope, it's gotten worse as they've become more accepted. You can't say 'Oh it's because no one likes them!' when there were less depressed homosexuals back when the punishment for it was hanging. It's a deviant and dysfunctional life style that has a negative impact on your life.
 
A community of people who end up bullied, rejected, often disowned and have self-hate instilled from a young age end up with a disproportionate amount of mental health issues? You don't say.

Bullying, rejecting, and disowning walking petri dishes should be expected. How many diseases do these living superfund sites need to propagate through ass sex before it becomes abundantly clear? When monkeypox was making the rounds it was gays and kids. Wonder why?
 
You can't generalize an entire group of people like that. Some want that, some don't. At the end of the day "gay" is a lose collection of individuals who share one singular common trait: liking the same sex.

I was in a healthy, monogamous relationship for several years, before it failed for reasons beyond my control...and before you say it, no it wasn't because they cheated.

I have done nothing wrong, I know that for a fact. You on the other hand have an irrational hate for me, a person you've never met, because of who I'm attracted to.

You know, even though I disagree with you I don't hate you. I do worry about your hatred impacting your future patients though, should you be telling the truth about your studies.

A community of people who end up bullied, rejected, often disowned and have self-hate instilled from a young age end up with a disproportionate amount of mental health issues? You don't say.
You can generalize an entire group; it's called stereotyping and stereotyping comes from truths. Truth sounds like hate to those who hate the truth. Hatred for furries is not irrational. You people are fucking disgusting and groomed me into the community when I was prepubescent. Your kind literally encourage more minors to be groomed by the biggest furry site on the internet, FA, allowing minors to join. Despite there being blatant softcore porn fetishes labeled as General. You encourage more mentally ill people and autistic people to become trans by exposing them to the degenerates on the site. You encourage grooming by allowing minors into your spaces. Anime can be made for kids. The furry community has been sexual since its inception and those who claim it's not don't know the history or are actively trying to deceive people (which says a lot about the furry community in general).

And shut the fuck up about the bullying thing. Gays have been accepted for over a decade but even gays with loving families are more mentally ill and participating in dangerous behavior. That bullshit you espouse is the same bullshit that trannies espouse. "Woe is me, no one loves me so that explains my degeneracy/mental illness!" No nigga, even if we kowtow to them, they end up fucking killing themselves because of some perceived slight (review the Airline Trannie that killed himself despite EVERYONE SUPPORTING HIM AND EVEN GETTING A COMMERCIAL ALL ABOUT HIM LMAO). Affirmation has not demonstrated to decrease the amount of mental illness/suicide.
 
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Like I said, I’ve never harmed any kids so you want to punish an innocent person for a crime they’ve never committed.

You really sure you want to get into punishing people for crimes you’re worried they might commit?
Stop paying attention to edgi bois around here. A lot of KF posters are gay and normal people. Some others are just faggots.

We might joke around about it, but I doubt many of us would actually push for a gay genocide in real life. Most normal and real gay people are repulsed by the current LGBT activism and with reason. They are the truly "we just wanted to get married and don't get fired for being gay" bunch and they've been fucked over by pedophiles and degenerates. With that being said, I think it's also understandable why so many normies are becoming anti-lgbt, and with reason too. The people who have now infested any movement are openly calling for grooming children under the rainbow flag and with the absolute support of governments. We internet autists know the difference, but the average person only sees that "gays" are doing this.

"Purpose" is almost too strong a word. It implies intelligent design, which we can individually believe but can't assume.

There may be an evolutionary advantage to the existence of homosexuality. If you can't pass on your genes yourself, you can still benefit your immediate family and help them pass on their genes. Imagine a prehistoric tribe, always on the edge of starvation (as our ancestors were for most of human history), and you have some family members who provide all the benefits of an extra helping hand and yet isn't a possible source of extra mouths to feed. (Not that they couldn't have children in a pinch, just that they didn't naturally want to make them.) This could explain why homosexuality is also seen in social, non-human animals.
Yes, "function" is a more accurate word than "purpose". And yes, homosexuality also might have its own evolutionary function in certain groups. But it's still a rarity because living beings are sexual by definition, and by that I don't mean that they are expected to fuck, but rather to procreate. Gays still can procreate, though.
 
I'm just gonna make it a personal policy to ignore anyone who joined from 2022-2023 with the exception to those with familiar account names. After lurking, the student of neuroscience shows that they ignore the complexity of the chemical reaction known as humans and conflates in school for as a position of authority that is flimsy at most. I'm in law school, doesn't make me an expert in law. Anyway, tldr, I don't want any of you spergs near my brain or in my brain, ciao.
 
Nope, it's gotten worse as they've become more accepted. You can't say 'Oh it's because no one likes them!' when there were less depressed homosexuals back when the punishment for it was hanging. It's a deviant and dysfunctional life style that has a negative impact on your life.
This is a nonsensical argument. We don't even know how many gay people there were historically because they had to keep it under wraps or risk great harm. We don't even have reliable statistics on it as recently as 50 years ago due to stigma.

Suddenly we live in a world where people can be honest with themselves and seek help, but obviously the increase is because the gays now have more issues, not just a matter of them no longer hiding their issues for the sake of protecting themselves.
Gays have been accepted for over a decade
You have no idea what it's actually like for many of us and I don't expect you to. Not everywhere is a bastion of tolerance like the PNW states in America. You're so ignorant about how things actually are, worse yet, you revel in it.
Most normal and real gay people are repulsed by the current LGBT activism and with reason.
Yep, it frustrates me to no end at this point and I refuse to partake.
 
You have no idea what it's actually like for many of us and I don't expect you to. Not everywhere is a bastion of tolerance like the PNW states in America. You're so ignorant about how things actually are, worse yet, you revel in it.
Implying that I'm not gay just because I disagree with you. Lol. You've never gone through conversion therapy. I've experienced actual hatred for what I am by being rejected from renting apartments for my race, being subject to unfair searches because of my race, and being called a black devil in foreign countries. What the fuck you experienced, furfag? Someone telling you no when you wanted cummies? Shut the fuck up about "what it's actually like for many of us". You can hide your homosexuality. I can't hide who I am and I am judged for it. Tired of homosexuals parading around their oppression like they've actually suffered from any of it.
 
This is a nonsensical argument. We don't even know how many gay people there were historically because they had to keep it under wraps or risk great harm. We don't even have reliable statistics on it as recently as 50 years ago due to stigma.
A 100 years ago? Sure. But 1980s onwards? No lol. The height of New Yorks seediness was in the gay community; and they were a miserable diseased orgy pile. To the point where during the height of HIV they refused even putting lights into the gay saunas to make sure people could see who was openly oozing sores, or was covered in cancers. If you're just a straight guy that likes dudes, I'm afraid you're such a minority you may as well be a statistical error.
 
“However, American psychiatry mostly ignored the growing body of sex research that saw homosexuality as normal.”

Wow, psychiatrists used to be something other than extensions of big pharma.

Homosexuality will never be “normal.” An aversion to potentially reproductive sex does not make for a successful model per natural selection, so always be skeptical of pseudoscientific claims attempting to validate the idea that people are “born that way.” If you look into them, there will ALWAYS be some glaring flaw in methodology.

Even considering some apparently gay activity in animals, when you include the full context those behaviors are

1: not primary

2: they pertain to social status via indicating cooperation or dominance, for which the purpose is higher standing HETEROSEXUALLY afterwards.
 
You really think I'm going to list off thing that'll get me doxed? You have no idea.

Well it doesn't seem like it worked, but if true it does explain some things about you.
If the only experiences you have are those that will get you doxxed, you're fucking lying.

Thread tax: Homosexual white males lose an average of 23.3 years of their lifespan just for their lifestyle.

Science has demonstrated more evidence that homosexual males are not born gay (with the exception of lesbians, who are more likely to be exposed to androgens in the womb, causing bi/homosexuality).

Homosexuals demonstrate more predatory behavior than straight men.
An average LGBT has several dozen sex partners per year.

Children of homosexuals are more likely to be homosexuals themselves, further solidifying the nurture vs nature argument.

1/4 gay men in America have had over 1000 sex partners. 80% say that over half of their sex partners are strangers.

Gay men are 6x as likely to kill themselves even today in the era of gay acceptance in America than straight men.
Gay men 12x more likely to use drugs. 3x more likely to abuse alcohol.
 
If the only experiences you have are those that will get you doxxed, you're fucking lying.
Every piece of info you give away, every detail of your life told, is one step closer to being doxed.
I'll take that risk with others, but not some idiot in A&N.
@Catler
Why are you getting so worked up. You ain't going to change people's minds with autistic slap fights on the internet.
Because I enjoy this as much as they do :)
Somedays you just wake up in a mood to argue.
 
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@Tasty Tatty Do I support genocide of the gats? No. Would I unironically support chrmical castration, legally barring them from professions that involve large amounts of contact with children such as teaching, and the social ostracisation of gays? Not just yes, but fuck yes.

Whats funny is that in my teens and early 20's I bought into the "love is love" propaganda. I lived and worked on south beach and had multiple gay friends. The problem is, the more comfortable fags get, the more they stop hiding who and what they are. The more gays I knew, the more I realised how much of the "bigoted stereotypes" I had heard of growing up were true.
 
Every piece of info you give away, every detail of your life told, is one step closer to being doxed.
Lol whatever, you're a faggot liar who flaunts his homosexuality for oppression points on a thread about how degenerate homosexuals are.
Thread tax: There is no proven link between homosexuals' mental illness caused by social stigma of those around them except internalized homophobia from the homosexual themselves LOL

You can't get mental illnesses like bipolar just from being cyberbullied. You get it genetically. You can't explain away genetic illnesses as homophobia-induced lol.
 
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