Science It Is Now 50 Years Since Gay People Were “Cured"

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KEY POINTS​

  • This year marks the 50th anniversary of the American Psychiatric Association’s removal of homosexuality from its Diagnostic Manual.
  • The APA’s revision was the beginning of the end of organized medicine’s participation in the social stigmatization of homosexuality.
  • Charles Silverstein, who was crucial in persuading the APA to change, recently died.
by Jack Drescher, MD, member of the LGBTQ Committee of the Group for Advancement of Psychiatry
This year marks the 50th anniversary of the American Psychiatric Association’s removal of homosexuality from its Diagnostic Manual in 1973. The decision, and the reasoning behind it, made for was a culture-changing event. It led to an important shift in mental health practices as clinicians stopped asking questions like “What causes homosexuality?” and “How can we change it?” nd focused instead on the health and mental-health needs of LGBTQ patient populations. January 2023 saw the passing of Charles Silverstein, Ph.D., an important figure who participated in persuading APA to bring about this diagnostic change.

Why Change Was Needed​

In 1973...:
  • Homosexual behavior was criminalized in most U.S. states.
  • Openly gay men and women were banned from serving in the U.S. military. If a gay person in the military came out or was outed by someone else, they could be court-martialed and discharged.
  • Being gay was grounds for being fired from a U.S. government job. This is what happened to Frank Kameny, who, in 1957, lost his job as an astronomer with the U.S. government after it was discovered that he had once pleaded guilty to a legal charge of homosexual activity. Kameny, both a scientist and an activist, would go on to become a leader in persuading APA to make diagnostic changes.
  • An openly gay physician, psychiatrist, or other mental-health professional could lose their state license to practice.
  • Most Americans were unlikely to approve of gay marriage, otherwise known as marriage equality. The question of how Americans felt about marriage equality did not even appear in major polls and surveys until the 1980s.

How Diagnostic Change Happened​

Psychiatric diagnosing of homosexuality as a mental disorder began in the 19th century, most prominently in the work of Richard von Krafft-Ebing, who thought it was due to “degeneration” of the nervous system—degeneracy being a now-disproven medical theory of that era.
Sigmund Freud directly disagreed with Krafft-Ebing’s concept of homosexuality as an illness and instead saw it as a “developmental arrest,” a kind of psychological immaturity. However, by the middle of the 20th century, the belief that homosexuality was a mental disorder was the prevailing view among psychiatrists and most of Freud’s psychoanalytic followers. Thus, in 1952, when the APA published the first edition of its Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM-I), it classified “homosexuality” as a “sociopathic personality disturbance.” In the DSM-II, published in 1968, homosexuality was classified as a “sexual deviation.”

These psychiatric perspectives on homosexuality were drawn from a skewed sample of patients seeking treatment for homosexuality or other difficulties and studies of prison populations. Sexologists, on the other hand, conducted field studies that recruited large numbers of non-patient subjects in the general population. Most prominent among them was Alfred Kinsey, whose team surveyed thousands of people who were not psychiatric patients. They found homosexuality to be more common in the general population than was generally believed—a finding at odds with psychiatric claims of the time that homosexuality was extremely rare in the general population.

However, American psychiatry mostly ignored the growing body of sex research that saw homosexuality as normal. In Kinsey's case, they expressed extreme hostility to any findings that contradicted their own pathologizing theories. All this changed in the wake of the 1969 Stonewall riots in New York City, an event that energized gay and lesbian activists who believed psychiatric diagnosis to be a major contributor to anti-homosexual social stigma.

What did the activists do? They disrupted the normally staid 1970 and 1971 annual meetings of the APA. In doing so, they succeeded in getting the APA’s attention, leading to unprecedented educational panels at the group’s next two annual meetings. A 1971 panel, entitled “Gay is Good” featured Kameny, Barbara Gittings, and Ron Gold, who explained to psychiatrists, many of whom were hearing it for the first time, the stigma caused by the “homosexuality” diagnosis. Kameny and Gittings returned in 1972, this time joined by John Fryer, who appeared as Dr. H Anonymous, a “homosexual psychiatrist" who, given the realistic fear of adverse professional consequences for coming out at that time, disguised his true identity from the audience and spoke of the discrimination gay psychiatrists faced in their own profession.

The APA also engaged in a slow, internal deliberative process to consider the question of whether homosexuality should remain a psychiatric diagnosis. In February 1973, Silverstein addressed the committee charged with making recommendations to APA’s Board of Trustees (BOT), introducing the committee to the science of the time that challenged the existing illness model. After noting some humorous aspects of historical diagnoses, he concluded, “To continue to classify homosexuality as a disorder is as valid today as was the diagnosis of masturbation in the 1942 edition. What we hope to convey to you is that we have paid the price for your past mistake. Don’t make it again.”
The committee wrestled with the question of what constitutes a mental disorder. Robert Spitzer, who chaired the subcommittee looking into the issue, finally concluded that a mental disorder had to cause subjective distress or impairment in social functioning. Having arrived at a novel definition of mental disorder—one that would change future DSM editions until the present—the committee agreed that homosexuality per se was not one.

Several other APA committees and deliberative bodies then reviewed and accepted their work and recommendations. As a result, in December 1973, APA’s Board of Trustees voted to remove homosexuality from the DSM. Psychiatrists from the psychoanalytic community, however, objected to the decision. They petitioned the APA to hold a referendum asking the entire membership to vote either in support of or against the BOT decision. A 58% majority of 10,000 voting members upheld the decision to remove. It should be noted that psychiatrists did not vote, as is often reported in the popular press, on whether homosexuality should remain a diagnosis. What APA members voted on was to either “favor” or “oppose” the APA BOT decision and, by extension, the scientific process the Board had set up to make the determination.
Since then, opponents of the 1973 removal have tried to discredit the referendum’s outcome by declaring, “Science cannot be decided by a vote.” Yet, in 2006, the International Astronomical Union voted on whether Pluto was a planet, demonstrating that even in a hard science like astronomy, the interpretation of facts is always filtered through human subjectivity.

The Impact of Diagnostic Change​

APA’s diagnostic revision was the beginning of the end of organized medicine’s official participation in the social stigmatization of homosexuality. Similar shifts gradually took place in the international mental health community as well. For example, in 1990, the World Health Organization removed homosexuality per se from the International Classification of Diseases (ICD-10). In the ICD revision of 2019, the F66 diagnoses that still pathologized same-sex expression were removed from ICD-11.

Without a medical or scientific rationalization for discrimination, debates about homosexuality gradually shifted away from medicine and psychiatry and into the moral and political realms of religion, government, the military, the media, and educational institutions. As a result, cultural attitudes about homosexuality changed in the U.S. and other countries as those who accept scientific authority on such matters gradually came to accept the normalizing view.

The reasoning behind acceptance went like this: If homosexuality is no longer considered an illness, if one does not literally accept biblical prohibitions against it, and if gay people are able and prepared to function as productive citizens, then what is wrong with being gay? Further, if there is nothing wrong with being gay, what moral and legal principles should society endorse in helping gay people openly live their lives?

The result, in many countries, eventually led to..:
  • the repeal of sodomy laws that criminalized homosexuality—in 2003, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that sodomy laws still on the books in thirteen states were unconstitutional.
  • the enactment of laws protecting the human rights of lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) people in society and the workplace.
  • the ability of LGBT personnel to serve openly in the military.
  • marriage equality and civil unions in an ever-growing number of countries; in most recent polls, more than 70% of Americans support marriage equality.
  • the facilitation of gay parents’ adoption rights.
  • the facilitation of gay spouses’ rights of inheritance.
  • an ever-increasing number of religious denominations allowing openly gay people to serve as clergy.
  • a pathway had been paved for the emerging movement for transgender rights; echoing the 1973 APA decision, the World Health Organization revised its ICD-10 diagnosis of transsexualism to Gender Incongruence in the ICD-11 and moved the diagnosis out of the mental disorders section.

References
A more detailed history of how change occurred can be found in Ronald Bayer’s Homosexuality and American Psychiatry: The Politics of Diagnosis (1987). Princeton, NJ: Princeton University Press.
Drescher, J. (2015). Out of DSM: Depathologizing homosexuality. Behavioral Sciences, 5:565-575.
Drescher, J. & Merlino, J.P., eds. (2007). American Psychiatry and Homosexuality: An Oral History. New York: Routledge.
 
Believe what you wish dude, I don't have to prove anything to you :)

I like that you've gotten to the point of spamming links and "statistics". It's so very predictable with people like you.
I'm not spamming links; I'm providing more evidence of homosexual hedonism, as per the topic of the article. You haven't read jack shit. You're blindly defending your hedonism. You'd rather live in delusion than accept the truth. You're free to die of monkeypox at any time! Enjoy a lifelong higher risk of incontinence due to buttsex. Enjoy a higher risk of rectal cancer due to buttsex.
 
In 2023, transgender people were still subjected the horrific possibility of other people thinking negatively of them.

Admittedly, by that time, it was increasingly difficult for such people to openly make statements such as "You will never be a woman" or "Your parents will use your deadname at your funeral". They could face professional sanction for such utterances or social media banishment, and chose instead to congregate in barely working fringe websites run by rude feeder fetishists.

However the important work to regulate their minds so they never even think incorrectly was in its infancy ...
 
Thread tax: Homosexual white males lose an average of 23.3 years of their lifespan just for their lifestyle.
That would depend on when the data was gathered from. I don't think it's reasonable to use height of the HIV pandemic data for that measurement.
Science has demonstrated more evidence that homosexual males are not born gay
Twin studies indicate a greater occurrence of homosexuality when one of the twins is gay suggesting a mix of nature vs nurture.

Genetics is not destiny.
Homosexuals demonstrate more predatory behavior than straight men.
An average LGBT has several dozen sex partners per year.
Yeah...men are sex motivated. So when you get two guys and a culture that does not hold monogamy as highly as straights, that's what occurs.
Children of homosexuals are more likely to be homosexuals themselves, further solidifying the nurture vs nature argument.
Wouldn't that be an argument for genetics, as well?!
1/4 gay men in America have had over 1000 sex partners. 80% say that over half of their sex partners are strangers.
Is this the study that can from the back pages of a gay magazine in the 1980's.
Gay men are 6x as likely to kill themselves even today in the era of gay acceptance in America than straight men.
Probably. When all that hedonism and glamour of being a good looking faggot has passed, a guy that is gay is basically alone and by themselves.

No family to care for him and most of the friends are just fickle. Even good friends will not go to the lengths family members will.

Alone and in failing health.

Additionally, the gay community if fucking toxic.
Gay men 12x more likely to use drugs. 3x more likely to abuse alcohol.
True. Party and play. A lot of fucking hedonism when you have no real responsibilities like a family.
 
I know what the actual medical industry has to say on the practice and they’re a damn bit more qualified to have an opinion than you.
The actual medical industry also claimed covid was worse the plague, told us to take the now ineffective vaccine, and promomtes both chemical and physical castration of minors based on a fetish, so I wouldn't take anything "the actual medical industry" has to say seriously the past 20-30 years.
You can't generalize an entire group of people like that.
No, we have studies for that.

We have data showing that only 20% of gays are even monogamous, and 50% of them literally get fisted by a different stranger every night.

"They're just healthy normal people just like you and me!" doesn't work on anyone that has actually studied the data, because this isn't even getting into the molestation statistics.
 
@LaxerBRO

23.3 years
Homosexual males have more older brothers than straight males, so twin studies only further add to it. Those brothers do not have to be homosexual themselves. Need a link to the twin studies, though. How they collect the data is more important than how they present the data (which can be worded in a way that favors the outcome they desire).

Children adopted by homosexuals are not typically related to the homosexuals. It's not an argument for genetics. It's an argument for nurture.

The 1000 partners is from this book. I don't have it but they conducted face to face interviews with 1500 people, apparently. The review from David Miller explains the book more.
 
I'm not spamming links, I'm providing more evidence of homosexual hedonism, as per the topic of the article. You haven't read jack shit. You're blindly defending your hedonism. You'd rather live in delusion than accept the truth. You're free to die of monkeypox at any time!
Look dude, this has been fun, but I'm out.
You keep projecting this strawman of a gay man onto me, refusing to consider that maybe I'm not the type of person you envision.
 
Look dude, this has been fun, but I'm out.
You keep projecting this strawman of a gay man onto me, refusing to consider that maybe I'm not the type of person you envision.
I don't think he is. I think that he's talking about how the majority of homosexuals behave; and that your status as a unicorn does not change this. You being a decent person, does not undo the fact that gays as a whole are diseased, miserable, drug abusers; and that the greater lenience granted to them by society has done nothing but make them act in increasingly disgusting and degenerate ways.

EDIT: Nvm lol.
 
I don't think he is. I think that he's talking about how the majority of homosexuals behave; and that your status as a unicorn does not change this. You being a decent person, does not undo the fact that gays as a whole are diseased, miserable, drug abusers; and that the greater lenience granted to them by society has done nothing but make them act in increasingly disgusting and degenerate ways.

EDIT: Nvm lol.
I think anyone wanting to fuck animals or things with animal heads on it is pretty fucking degenerate.
 
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APA has always been a clown car of charlatans.
APA's actually the group that for some reason has authority over the writing format and stylings pushed in American schools, right? Pretty sure in recent years they started to directly try to subvert it with woke drivel.
 
I think anyone wanting to fuck animals or things with animal heads on it is pretty fucking degenerate.
Probably, but I think it's better to just assume he's not full of shit lol. Because even if he is a golden BB and doesn't suck off dudes in bathrooms, it doesn't change that for everyone, gay or normal, the allowances granted to the gay community have been a negative. No one is happy, the gays are miserable, and normal people are disgusted by them.
 
80% of homosexuals have an STD (compared to 20% of the total population). They actively participate in the spread of disease. Monkeypox is spreading like crazy because these retards refuse to practice safe sex and refrain from hedonism. They are over 30% of child sex abuse cases. 82% of syphilis cases. 55% of HIV carriers. All this despite making up 3% of the population.
Remember when everyone made a big deal out of monkeypox, realized it only spread among homos but then there were some cases involving kids and dogs then no ever spoke about it again. Yeah me neither
 
@LaxerBRO

23.3 years
Homosexual males have more older brothers than straight males, so twin studies only further add to it. Those brothers do not have to be homosexual themselves. Need a link to the twin studies, though. How they collect the data is more important than how they present the data (which can be worded in a way that favors the outcome they desire).

Children adopted by homosexuals are not typically related to the homosexuals. It's not an argument for genetics. It's an argument for nurture.

The 1000 partners is from this book. I don't have it but they conducted face to face interviews with 1500 people, apparently. The review from David Miller explains the book more.
From the lifespan source:
To complement this research I took a different approach: I examined 6,089 obituaries of homosexual men from four homosexual magazines: The Bay Area Reporter, the Washington Blade, the New York Blade and This Week, published between 1980 to 2014 inclusive. There were only 138 obituaries for lesbians in these magazines, too small a sample from which to draw conclusions.
Some issues I have are that the data is from large metropolitan newspapers which was partially collected during the HIV pandemic and before HAART medication.

As to the 1000 person source, I wouldn't doubt it with some of the faggots I know but more recent numbers could be better to gauge what % are whores.

I could see the percentage being higher or lower given the idea of hemonormativity (selectively privileges cisgendered homosexuality, that is coupled and monogamous, as worthy of social acceptance) vs hook up apps. Tons of different variables could affect the numbers but it's a shame this research is rarer these days.

Anyways, gonna bow out of this autistic screeching.
 
Look dude, this has been fun, but I'm out.
You keep projecting this strawman of a gay man onto me, refusing to consider that maybe I'm not the type of person you envision.
Catler, counter to how we usually speak I don't hate you, but the way you try to argue for yourself in this way is messy. You may not be a gay man that gets fisted in an alleyway every other night at minimum but a far higher percentage of gays are so hedonist than straights. I don't even have to look at the stats to see this. The only gay men I know in my family, ones that actually married when it became legal, despite all performances they both screw around with other guys. Monogomy in the gay community is practically a myth for how low of a percentage practice it versus the bulk. You may not apply to this stereotype but there is a good damn reason it exists.
Damn bro. Way to show your cards. Good luck with that.
It may be a powerlevel but I can't really blame the man for speaking out.
 
APA's actually the group that for some reason has authority over the writing format and stylings pushed in American schools, right? Pretty sure in recent years they started to directly try to subvert it with woke drivel.
APA has a distinct format that doesn't get used for anything other than psychology papers.

Most K-12 students are taught MLA (presumably because that's the standard for literature studies where most kids are going to be first introduced to the concept of citing sources; there might be something to be said about not needing to teach 3rd graders how to use superscript in MS Word but whatever).
Chicago Style is the standard for most sciences and humanities.
 
APA has a distinct format that doesn't get used for anything other than psychology papers.

Most K-12 students are taught MLA (presumably because that's the standard for literature studies where most kids are going to be first introduced to the concept of citing sources; there might be something to be said about not needing to teach 3rd graders how to use superscript in MS Word but whatever).
Chicago Style is the standard for most sciences and humanities.
While it certainly may have been the case that APA wasn't used much in standard schooling, I don't believe that's entirely the case anymore. APA has reached its greedy tendrils far outward. Guides like this pop up just when looking for how APA is used. MLA certainly is common but I'm seeing plenty of refences to certain parts of APA at least leaking in.
 
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I really don’t get why exactly you want to kill someone like me and I’ve never understood it.

I’m a productive member of society, I’ve never hurt anyone, and frankly? I just want to be in a relationship and to be left alone.

If you seriously believe I should be killed you’re a worse person than I am.
As a faggot myself, I think you should be killed for being a disingenous retard.

Also I had to use APA references in middle school. Fucking faggots made it so painfully annoying that I loathed every time I had to do it.
 
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