Megathread TERFs / Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminists / Gender Critical Feminists - ft. r/GenderCritical & related reddits, Mancheeze, Cathy Brennan, GCDad, RadFHarva, Jamie Shupe, etc; "Gender Critical Feminism is Homophobic" - Cathy Brennan, 2019.

[Cracklaw]

Lisa Michele started a live stream accusing King Critical of bad behavior while King Critical was doing a livestream on a Jessie Gender video. KC stopped doing his video and started a livestream responding to Lisa Michele.

During his live-stream, KC linked to a video he had done the prior day to respond to whatever Lisa Michele's accusing him off.

Sorry, not deep enough into gcs to know the story behind this drama and haven't watched all videos yet but the simple fact of dueling accusatory live-streams and preemptive defense videos is hilarious.

So it's like that huh (Lisa Michele on KC)

We need to talk about Lisa Michele (Sorry... drama)

A pre emptive statement on lisa for posterity

Honestly, there’s no incentive for men to ally themselves with GC and radical feminist women because they’ll turn on them sooner or later. Meghan Murphy tweeted about BillboardChris and called him a grifter right after he was assaulted at the Trans Invisibility rally, ostensibly because he’s not transparent about fundraising, but really she was just ‘putting him back in his place’ because he’s a latecomer to The Cause and already rising in fame. Other women on Twitter chimed in to call him a chauvinist because he doesn’t listen to feedback from them and because he doesn’t go easy on TRA women. What the hell is Lisa Michele even upset at KC about? Was it worth the two hour rant? I swear these women are too neurotic to have any sense of politicking.

 

[mongrel]

@mongrel
Where the fuck is this 'the second you grow tits men view you as fuckmeat' shit coming from? Because that's a retarded TERF take and forcing that hysterical thinking onto girls is what's causing TiFs.

I agree. I didn't mean to imply that all boys view girls as objects as soon as they hit puberty, nor that all girls can't cope with that period.

But undoubtedly some girls have a very hard time coping with the extra attention they receive.

It was a very radfem sentiment. And leads to troons.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

I agree. I didn't mean to imply that all boys view girls as objects as soon as they hit puberty, nor that all girls can't cope with that period.

But undoubtedly some girls have a very hard time coping with the extra attention they receive.

It was a very radfem sentiment. And leads to troons.

I don't doubt it's very shocking and upsetting for some girls, maybe even a lot of girls, especially the ones that mature earlier, to suddenly be viewed in a different way. Inside they still feel like kids, but people start seeing something else, something that they can't really relate to yet.

The thing the radfems fail to comprehend is that boys go through this too. Yeah maybe not in the sense of vulgar women saying "hey hottie nice cheeks" while you're waiting for the bus. But definitely in the sense of still feeling like the silly little boy you always were, inside, while presenting to the world some lumbering oaf who is suddenly supposed to be strong enough/scary enough/competent enough to run with the big dogs.

Growing up can suck in general. The phase of puberty where you have to start forcing your brain to catch up to your new adult looking body is particularly harsh. But we're meant to get through it, not come up with copes to avoid it. Whether that's surgically changing yourself or trying to mold society into something it can never be (ie canceling heterosexual relations), that's not right or good.

 

[RealMuthaForYa]

Growing up can suck in general.

Nah, it’s brilliant, your dick, when it gets bigger gives you pleasure and you can grow a moustache and shit.

 

[All my ghosts]

Why are you replying to yourself and triple posting you fucking mong.

Lol I imagine I was twitted. 80% mong

 

[Spangled Drongo]

I agree. I didn't mean to imply that all boys view girls as objects as soon as they hit puberty, nor that all girls can't cope with that period.

But undoubtedly some girls have a very hard time coping with the extra attention they receive.

It was a very radfem sentiment. And leads to troons.

For lots of girls it's not so much that they're actually receiving negative attention from boys and men, it's more just the fear it might happen, and the fact their bodies are changing faster than their brains can keep up with. You're the quiet nerdy kid who's not big on socialising at school then suddenly - boom - you get your first period and have to wear a bra.

I can imagine girls raised by extreme radical feminist mothers who teach them to fear all men as potential rapists & abusers would, ironically, be at higher risk of trooning out because they'd think it's the only way they could be left alone.

 

[World Famous Quasi Payer]

I can imagine girls raised by extreme radical feminist mothers who teach them to fear all men as potential rapists & abusers would, ironically, be at higher risk of trooning out because they'd think it's the only way they could be left alone.

They already are at a higher risk. Most of this tit-chop, rot dog crotch shit isn't happening to girls from conservative, church on Sunday, small towns.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

They already are at a higher risk. Most of this tit-chop, rot dog crotch shit isn't happening to girls from conservative, church on Sunday, small towns.

This was something that we discussed in this thread, which is about gender critical parents who nevertheless did something to enable their children to troon out.

I brought up the possibility about a story about a fundamentalist family with children trooning out, noting that it would be just as hilarious as the idiot liberal parents whose children troon out against their wishes.

A little later into the thread, @Larry David's Crypto Fund found a story that was roughly like that. The not-so-odd thing was, the religious conservative parents were much better about shutting the whole youth troon bullshit down before it did too much damage to their kid.

To blame conservatives or traditional gender roles for increasing numbers of gender-confused children is feminist dyke cope.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

This was something that we discussed in this thread, which is about gender critical parents who nevertheless did something to enable their children to troon out.

I brought up the possibility about a story about a fundamentalist family with children trooning out, noting that it would be just as hilarious as the idiot liberal parents whose children troon out against their wishes.

A little later into the thread, @Larry David's Crypto Fund found a story that was roughly like that. The not-so-odd thing was, the religious conservative parents were much better about shutting the whole youth troon bullshit down before it did too much damage to their kid.

To blame conservatives or traditional gender roles for increasing numbers of gender-confused children is feminist dyke cope.

The religious conservative parents have two devastating advantages:

1. The ability to clearly articulate the truth and right vs wrong and explain their reasoning for it.

Even if you don't like historical sexual ethics, they're pretty damn clear. Sex is primarily for making babies and forming a family. Anything beyond that is secondary and a fringe benefit. Furthermore, sexual desire is a powerful urge that can quickly go out of control and become dangerous. It needs to be watched and regulated and not simply indulged to the hilt. Therefore the only kind of sex that makes moral sense is between a man and a woman who are ready to raise a family together. Because the core of human life is this union and raising of a family, it makes sense that men and women have distinct biology and roles. It's more important for women to nurse babies and keep kids safe growing up than it is for them to be a wagie. It's more important for a man to feed and protect his wife and kids than to chase fetishes.

And if the natural law isn't enough for you, trads have the bible to draw from.

2. Already being at least somewhat immune to people calling them backwards, uncool, phobic, bigoted, whatever.

Radfem moms want to pull out the ole "thou shalt not" and "it's just wrong and gross!" about trannyism while somehow still celebrating men sodomizing each other and women becoming ugly DV blobs who think their cats are children. They are absolutely petrified of being told they are backwards or bigoted. It simply does not work.

 

[Spangled Drongo]

This was something that we discussed in this thread, which is about gender critical parents who nevertheless did something to enable their children to troon out.

I brought up the possibility about a story about a fundamentalist family with children trooning out, noting that it would be just as hilarious as the idiot liberal parents whose children troon out against their wishes.

A little later into the thread, @Larry David's Crypto Fund found a story that was roughly like that. The not-so-odd thing was, the religious conservative parents were much better about shutting the whole youth troon bullshit down before it did too much damage to their kid.

To blame conservatives or traditional gender roles for increasing numbers of gender-confused children is feminist dyke cope.

It depends how far the conservative parents go - I can respect raising your kids with some traditional values, but forcing them to conform to stereotypes (e.g. forcing your daughter to do ballet when she'd rather do karate) when that isn't how they're naturally inclined, just to avoid any future trooning, seems unreasonably authoritarian. I feel like allowing kids to just enjoy their childhood, not labelling them one way or another and limiting internet access (very important these days) is something we can all agree on regardless of political stance.

 

[Beating_Women]

Hits the nail on the head:

The Blanchard model is 30 years old and completly out of date for MtFs, yes you've still got the 'Homosexual Transsexual' (HSTS) and the Autogynophile (AGP).
But in the west there is clearly are far more prevalent third type of MtF, the type of male that has been hit hardest by this gynocracy we are living under that is so hostile to men. The non chad sub 8/10 white man that feminists have sucessfully restructured society around hating and discriminating against.
I don't even think it's about gaining any kind of tranny privilege, it's just about not being constantly treated like shit for the first time in their lives.



I've been quietly cheering on some of the MtFs, yes they're insane and gross, but seeing them get their own back in some small way against the feminists' total domination of western society gives me some enjoyment in the clown world women have created for us. Reap what you have sown TERFies.

FtMs are the complete opposite, as histrionic upper middle class women they already have the entire culutre and society bending over backward for them, but they seem to be so entitled and greedy (classic female socialization) they want more and more. Again thanks feminism...
FtM's only reason for trooning out is selfish narcissm and attention seeking.

Meanwhile, in the opposite dimension:


Always know you're on to something when Anna Slatz is posting the exact opposite.
She's one of the smarter TERFs, and seems to be keenly aware of feminism role in bringing about transgenderism and is fastidious in trying to counter this narrative by running interference.
She serves as a great bellwether for when you're close to some truth when you see her frantically posting blatant falsehoods and prevaricating over a point.

 

[Beating_Women]

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

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The only thing she missed is the fact that women actively fought against "men's only spaces," but she's spot on regardless.

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

lol she used the "two retards fighting" meme.

 

[ratters]

Retarded incel discourse. Female only spaces are for safety and privacy. They don't exist to exclude men because we're sexist. The "male spaces" women fought to get into were universities and workplaces - not men's toilets.

If feminists actually dominated western society, we would have abortion rights in every state and men wouldn't be killing women at the rate of three day here in the US, ffs. Feminists have made a few gains and that's it.

And Blanchard's model isn't out of date. His results were duplicated by another researcher later. We see evidence (and confessions) of AGP all the time. Lopping your dick off isn't something a straight man is going to do unless he's compelled to by a powerful paraphilia.

 

[BirdUp]

Retarded incel discourse. Female only spaces are for safety and privacy. They don't exist to exclude men because we're sexist. The "male spaces" women fought to get into were universities and workplaces - not men's toilets.

If feminists actually dominated western society, we would have abortion rights in every state and men wouldn't be killing women at the rate of three day here in the US, ffs. Feminists have made a few gains and that's it.

And Blanchard's model isn't out of date. His results were duplicated by another researcher later. We see evidence (and confessions) of AGP all the time. Lopping your dick off isn't something a straight man is going to do unless he's compelled to by a powerful paraphilia.

the male spaces they "liberated" include male-only bars for zero reason

 

[Tau Tack]

Women absolutely did fight for their provisions. It took a lot of convincing for men to ‘grant’ them. In some cases because they didn’t want to share their own.

That’s a dumb argument from Aimee.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

The fight for women to go into mens' spaces, at least in the late 20th, early 21st centuries, went like this:

Little girl gets angry that the boys won't include her in their games.

The boys relent, let her join, then she gets upset that none of them change the rules or hold back their strength to accommodate her.

Whatever the reasons that men had for wanting to be alone with other men, even if they differed from why women want spaces for women only, women have no right to complain that their boundaries are being eroded when they enroached on men's only spaces, and then made a scene about how "sexist" everything was when we relented and let them in.

 

[ratters]

There's no reason for a workplace or university to be "males only" any more than there is for one to be "whites only." There IS a reason to have female private spaces in toilet, dressing rooms, etc. and most people agree. A little girl was sexually assaulted in my home town by a tranny in a public restroom but that's fine with you because men are sticking it to the feminazis or whatever, I guess. Fuck off, rape apologist.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

There's no reason for a workplace or university to be "males only" any more than there is for one to be "whites only." There IS a reason to have female private spaces in toilet, dressing rooms, etc. and most people agree. A little girl was sexually assaulted in my home town by a tranny in a public restroom but that's fine with you because men are sticking it to the feminazis or whatever, I guess. Fuck off, rapist.

Are there women only workplaces or universities?

We'll fight for women's spaces against troons, but only because it's the right thing to do. We'll save you from the consequences of your actions. Again.

You'll do well to remember that before you whine about certain spaces not being accommodating enough for women, as the likes of Anita Sarkeesian, Zoe Quinn, or Kate Kelly have done.