Unpopular views about music

[Johnny Eastwood cash]

Nicklback is a good band and I think their rock songs from 2000s aren't as bad as people think. Sure there's bands out there that are better then them but I still think they are good regardless

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

The production behind Ice Cube’s first three albums was insane. Listening to Death Certificate almost gave me a migraine, yet AmeriKKKa’s Most Wanted had the production become too distracting to not hear the lyricism.

Yet, at times, it’s hard not to want to call Cube a hypocrite, since him and Snoop Dogg fell for the “studio gangsta” role in the last 20-30+ years.

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

JPEGMAFIA’s music is just nothing but noise with no meaning whatsoever, and I deep down think he knows this

 

[umami's milk]

Nicklback is a good band and I think their rock songs from 2000s aren't as bad as people think. Sure there's bands out there that are better then them but I still think they are good regardless

I think a lot of the hate towards them stems from the fact that their music is "for posers", or that Nickelback are sellouts, too mainstream, etc. Funnily enough, hating on Nickelback has also become mainstream, even by people who were born long since nu metal ruled American pop culture.

They have a couple good songs.

 

[MS Paint Gigachad]

I think a lot of the hate towards them stems from the fact that their music is "for posers",

I've never understood the whole thing with hate for "posers".

I mean, if you claim to know/love something and don't then you're a poser, and I consider you despicable, but then what qualifies someone as a poser is kinda fucking stupid, and i say this as someone who spent a year in various metal discord servers.

• I never claimed to enjoy brutal death metal, and say I don't like brutal death? POSER!
• Related: I enjoy melodeath? POSER!
• I have pop in my listening history? POSER!
• I don't like [certain band]? POSER!
• I never heard of [band] in [genre I was never in to]? POSER!

I'm mati at those guys, ngl

EDIT/PS: I consider myself in a bit of a weird position in the metal community where I can't stand the elitists as above; but at the same time I don't fit in with the alt-zoomer "my favorite death metal band is Slipknot" types. Fortunately I've found a group with some of my people in it.

 

[EpicGamerMoment]

I've never understood the whole thing with hate for "posers".

I mean, if you claim to know/love something and don't then you're a poser, and I consider you despicable, but then what qualifies someone as a poser is kinda fucking stupid, and i say this as someone who spent a year in various metal discord servers.

• I never claimed to enjoy brutal death metal, and say I don't like brutal death? POSER!
• Related: I enjoy melodeath? POSER!
• I have pop in my listening history? POSER!
• I don't like [certain band]? POSER!
• I never heard of [band] in [genre I was never in to]? POSER!

I'm mati at those guys, ngl

EDIT/PS: I consider myself in a bit of a weird position in the metal community where I can't stand the elitists as above; but at the same time I don't fit in with the alt-zoomer "my favorite death metal band is Slipknot" types. Fortunately I've found a group with some of my people in it.

The word "poser" has not meant anything meaningful in the last 30 years. If someone calls me a poser I usually double down and start talking about how slipknot is the most brutal metal band of all time lol

 

[MS Paint Gigachad]

The word "poser" has not meant anything meaningful in the last 30 years. If someone calls me a poser I usually double down and start talking about how slipknot is the most brutal metal band of all time lol

lol yeah, ive sorta embraced it too, in some non metal discord servers im like "hey guys! ping me for a pOSeR metal rec!"

The other thing I hate is the FM bot dick measuring contest; more listens = bigger dick or something, when in my experience it either means they're autistic or they spent time and energy just to drive them numbers up.

That's also how I got ostracized in one particular server; they searched for the top listeners for various kpop groups (presumably as a witch hunt), and I was the top listener in the server for most of them they checked by a factor of 10 or some shit.

 

[EpicGamerMoment]

lol yeah, ive sorta embraced it too, in some non metal discord servers im like "hey guys! ping me for a pOSeR metal rec!"

The other thing I hate is the FM bot dick measuring contest; more listens = bigger dick or something, when in my experience it either means they're autistic or they spent time and energy just to drive them numbers up.

That's also how I got ostracized in one particular server; they searched for the top listeners for various kpop groups (presumably as a witch hunt), and I was the top listener in the server for most of them they checked by a factor of 10 or some shit.

The FM bot thing is the most autistic thing I've ever heard. I'm usually for gatekeeping and elitism (as they prevent fandoms from getting dumbed down). But these retards deserve all the bullying they get.

 

[CowPox]

I enjoy the insane clown posse while loathing almost all other rap.

 

[MS Paint Gigachad]

The FM bot thing is the most autistic thing I've ever heard. I'm usually for gatekeeping and elitism (as they prevent fandoms from getting dumbed down). But these retards deserve all the bullying they get.

Gatekeeping and elitism eh?

I believe I kinda touched on it in my original post, the "corpse husband is metal"-types and "slipknot is death metal"-types are the dumbing-down you mention.

I'm of the opinion that fandoms should be like a coconut, some standards to get into but easy to "ascend" to the depths once on the inside. Not like a peach, easy to get into and requiring a fucking autist to get to the core! Then again the autistic elitist types make it like a rock, hard to get into and requiring a MAJOR autist to get to the core

 

[WitchfyndeGeneral]

3 things.
Groove metal, not Nu-Metal is what led heavy metal in a negative direction.
Groove metal often has wannabe tough guy vocals, dry and lifeless guitars, and horrible degenerate dumb lyrics. Groove metal is still better than drill or K-pop, but it’s still a crappy genre that doesn‘t deserve so much praise.

Most Hip-Hop songs have led music down in a negative direction. Hip-hop, no matter how good it is, has resulted in mainstream music going down the direction that led us to Cardi B and other shitty musicians. Hip-hop songs almost have zero musical merit without it’s lyrics, which explains why the classic hip-hop sound has become less common in the mainstream. I don’t get the praise of the hip-hop genre.

Anything song that isn’t historically significant, isn’t classical or doesn’t have a guitar solo has zero chance of being remembered in 50 years. Most people when looking back on the olden days prefer looking at music that was the best in quality, and most people who will look back in the 2010s in 2060s will remember good metal bands that made music, not the shitty mumble rappers.

 

[Meat Target]

I enjoy the insane clown posse while loathing almost all other rap.

Hip-hop, no matter how good it is, has resulted in mainstream music going down the direction that led us to Cardi B and other shitty musicians.

The only rappers who have ever made songs I genuinely liked are MC Hammer and Tech N9ne.

 

[Heddo Eburynyan]

A Thousand Suns is Linkin Park's best album.

 

[Raging Capybara]

I think AIs are already being used in the music industry, and the patient zero for that is the most recent Metallica album.

Nobody can convince me a human being did that. Even shit you wouldn't expect like the mixing, cover art, and the bloated length of the record seems to be the work of chatgpt or similar.

 

[AnOminous]

I think AIs are already being used in the music industry, and the patient zero for that is the most recent Metallica album.

Nobody can convince me a human being did that. Even shit you wouldn't expect like the mixing, cover art, and the bloated length of the record seems to be the work of chatgpt or similar.

Metallica has been cruising on fumes since the early 2000s and has produced no actual excellent album since ...And Justice for All. At St. Anger they completed their transformation into shitty nu-metal glurge. I wouldn't be surprised at them using AI at this point.

 

[Matt Damon]

Even the most beloved Ozzy Osbourne albums of the early '80s have a couple good songs and then a bunch of generic, plodding mid-tempo filler.

 

[Kulee Baba]

Of all the big Grunge acts Pearl Jam was the most wildly overrated. In my world view they've had virtually no enduring legacy despite being critical and commercial darlings.

Eddie Vedder's vocals are absolutely bland. He was such a boring vocalist. Even Scott Weiland of STP who were typically seen as the poser runts of the Genre had more charisma and talent. I can only think of two Pearl Jam songs, the bland "Even Flow" which makes me think of a Proto-Nickelback in terms of dull rock music and their infamous Banned MTV video "Jeremy" which is so grating to listen to with Eddie wailing "JEREMEY SPOOKEN EHHHHYEAHHH EHHHHHHH"

I'm just posting this to see if there is even one soul on this forum that wants to tell me Pearl Jam was good. I don't think there is. I still feel there's a healthy fanbase that loves Nirvana, Soundgarden, and especially Alice in Chains. Also I have to note when Chris Cornell teamed up with the Pearl Jam band to do "Temple of the Dog" that music fucking bores me to tears, so even the Pearl Jam band is shit.

I would rank Pearl Jam at the near bottom of any Grunge tier list, the only band of that era that would rank lower is Bush. And no one in the last 20 years has anything good to say about Bush.

 

[cactus]

Of all the big Grunge acts Pearl Jam was the most wildly overrated. In my world view they've had virtually no enduring legacy despite being critical and commercial darlings.

Eddie Vedder's vocals are absolutely bland. He was such a boring vocalist. Even Scott Weiland of STP who were typically seen as the poser runts of the Genre had more charisma and talent. I can only think of two Pearl Jam songs, the bland "Even Flow" which makes me think of a Proto-Nickelback in terms of dull rock music and their infamous Banned MTV video "Jeremy" which is so grating to listen to with Eddie wailing "JEREMEY SPOOKEN EHHHHYEAHHH EHHHHHHH"

I'm just posting this to see if there is even one soul on this forum that wants to tell me Pearl Jam was good. I don't think there is. I still feel there's a healthy fanbase that loves Nirvana, Soundgarden, and especially Alice in Chains. Also I have to note when Chris Cornell teamed up with the Pearl Jam band to do "Temple of the Dog" that music fucking bores me to tears, so even the Pearl Jam band is shit.

I would rank Pearl Jam at the near bottom of any Grunge tier list, the only band of that era that would rank lower is Bush. And no one in the last 20 years has anything good to say about Bush.

Pearl Jam at least prices their concerts fairly. And I like Bush, so suck it.

 

[Slav Power]

Speaking of people who call other people "posers" because they like the wrong bands, anyone who denies acknowledging the talent of people like Joey Jordison, Paul Gray or Mick Thomson just because they play/played in a band that's "mainstream" and "not metal" are not metal fans, but rather autists that get high off their own farts.

Joey Jordison was a very talented drummer, and if you deny to acknowledge that fact just because he was mainly known for being in Slipknot you have no right to talk about talented drummers because you have the audacity to call a talented person shit just because of what they played and who they played with.

You're not judging them by their actual drumming talent and technique, you're judging them purely by the bands they played in and the popularity of those bands.

 

[Matt Damon]

Only prog metal spergs will probably care about this one, but Dream Theater's much-lauded Scenes from a Memory is TERRIBLY mixed/mastered and nobody talks about it. It's one of the worst professional albums I've ever heard - weak in the low end, dull and boxy in the high end, weird compression that makes all the transients feel unnaturally hushed, narrow in the stereo field and just bad all around.

When you go from that to any competent album, it feels like you've taken cotton balls out of your ears. The vinyl release, despite all the limitations of the medium, actually sounds quite a bit better than the CD original.

Joey Jordison was a very talented drummer, and if you deny to acknowledge that fact just because he was mainly known for being in Slipknot you have no right to talk about talented drummers because you have the audacity to call a talented person shit just because of what they played and who they played with.

You're not judging them by their actual drumming talent and technique, you're judging them purely by the bands they played in and the popularity of those bands.

I actually like it when I find out that somebody in a mediocre band is secretly a really great player because it gives me something to appreciate in music I otherwise wouldn't enjoy.