Patrick Sean Tomlinson / @stealthygeek / "Torque Wheeler" / @RealAutomanic / Kempesh / Padawan v2.5 - "Conservative" sci-fi author with TDS, armed "drunk with anger management issues" and terminated parental rights, actual tough guy, obese, paid Quasi, paid thousands to be repeatedly unbanned from Twitter

Quasi were to collect his money, and then use it to sue Pat for defamation, I think it would be time to tear up the life's work of Stephen Hawking, because my sides would exceed the speed of light as they shot out towards Betelgeuse.
I mean I genuinely don’t know shit about the law, but at this point he’s accusing people of felonies to an online audience (however small) with zero evidence. If that’s not grounds for an actual defamation suit I don’t know what is.

It’d be like if I posted for a year “Bob is a rapist and murderer“ over and over like it was a fact with no evidence. All because Bob made fun of me and said I was a fat idiot. If people falsely believe you’re a criminal because of lies there’s got to be legal recourse for that. Though I’m sure it’s complicated and convoluted.
 
I mean I genuinely don’t know shit about the law, but at this point he’s accusing people of felonies to an online audience (however small) with zero evidence. If that’s not grounds for an actual defamation suit I don’t know what is.

It’d be like if I posted for a year “Bob is a rapist and murderer“ over and over like it was a fact with no evidence. All because Bob made fun of me and said I was a fat idiot. If people falsely believe you’re a criminal because of lies there’s got to be legal recourse for that. Though I’m sure it’s complicated and convoluted.

The people are mostly anon and he doesn't have a very big audience, AFAIK defamation in the US necessitates proving deliberate malice, falsehood, and concrete financial damage via reputation. It's a really high bar, don't think this crosses it.
 
Now MPD/FBI needs to do their fucking job and put the pieces together and get a warrant for Pat and any phone numbers/devices connected to him. It definitely seems like someone schooled him in covering his tracks- the theory of him going to Mexico to "lose" his phone comes to mind.

If I were Fatrick and I knew I was innocent of all these accusations of self-swatting I would’ve already made myself available to LE for them to do a deep dive into my finances and phone records to rule me out as a suspect.

At worst the cops would know how much money I’ve blown on alcohol and fried food at Hoolie’s but I would want to be ruled out immediately. Especially with just how damning the evidence online swirling around looks.
 
If the swatting story is real it has a bigger chance of making him famous than any of his pathetic "novels".
The media won't pick it up, because it has the wrong narrative. I agree that "Man pays criminals to swat him 30 times so he could be famous" would be a good news story, but that makes the Ebil Nazi CyberHax0rz of OnA and KF look like the innocent wronged parties and Liberal Twitter Warrior Pat Tomlinson look bad, so they just won't run it. Ironically, Pat's own politics have foiled his stupid scheme.
 
I am sorry if someone posted about this before, I literally can not keep up with this thread.

There is wide spread speculation that him standing on a soap box and letting the world know that "oh my god I ruined my phone with water damage, I can not even recover my data" that he did about a month ago during his Mexico vacation was related to the SWAT shit.
According to what I heard, both the crypto app he was using, and the private messages on telegram are device bound so in an incident like that he could easily get rid of any evidence on both.

I remember at the time we were asking ourselves why the fuck would you post a fuckup like that to the internet when there is an army of people fucking with you, and it makes a lot of sense that this was the answer.
If the incident didn't happen at all he is either still using that phone or just sold it.

Can a stalker child somehow check what phone model he is currently using?
Can someone less boomery than me confirm that this is the case with these 2 apps? I think the crypto service he was using was Gemini.

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I'm pretty sure crypto wallets require 2FA so it's literally impossible to set one up using someone else's details. atalker childs could be registering Pat's email and phone number for days, those wallets are useless if they aren't verified on the other end, and Patrick is the only one who can do that.
Stealiing emails and phone numbers is possible.
Even the person talking to the swatter says theres things that don't make sense about what the swatter said:
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I've thought it through and I can see circumstantial stuff for why Pat would do it. He is a massive liar with a thirst for attention who has proven in the past that he will false flag himself. I can also see stuff for why someone would frame him. He's proven to be an easy mark who has been successfully set up before, such as when pests used his email to send creepy messages to black women and because he reacts so consistently in such a piggish manner, those people did not believe that he didn't do it.

But what just doesn't make sense to me is the $250. No matter which way you slice it, it casts either idea into doubt.

Let's say Pat did do it, I can buy that he might but why on Earth would he stiff Torswats? Pat has a long history of frivolous spending and clearly has some disposable income. It doesn't make sense to me that he spends thousand on a phone he takes for a swim in the Mexican sea but decides to withhold a mere $250 from someone who he has implicated himself with in a fucking federal crime. And not just that, this other person who is willing to send bomb threats for $60, has confirmed he is aware of Patrick's identity and his apparent scheme to sue the MPD. I know Pat is fat and stupid but why would you antagonise this person?

But what about someone else? Initially, it may seem to make more sense to stiff Torswats, so that he ends up naming Patrick and humiliating him. But it's purely result-oriented thinking. You'd think it's obvious he would fall for it and expose him because that's what happened but is it actually the logical sequence of events? First you have to plan on Torswats actually agreeing to a scheme where you don't pay upfront, then you have to hope he actually bothers to look up the phone number to verify who it is (not even getting in to how you would get that number past 2FA without Pat, who responds to fucking everything, not noticing this), then you have to hope he buys it (worth noting that Torswats is, so he says, the person who brings up Pat's identity), then you have to plan on stiffing him.

And once you do this, you then have to hope that a person, who is incentivised to keep as low a profile as possible, would publicly call out the real Patrick and then you have to hope that anybody would take the word of someone who claims to be a swatter at face value (as we all know, nobody has ever pretended to be a superhackerswatter online for attention).

If the Vice article, which you could not have planned for, didn't write about Torswats, does anyone really think people would know about all this? Would anyone be snooping around their telegram to look for Pat? Would anyone even admit it if they did see it, given how they might be implicated? Surely you'd assume either they wanted to swat someone, or they were the person looking to frame Pat.

So, overall, it's not clear to me either way. But, I do think there's a slight possibility of it being Patrick, due to this situation's eerie similarity to the Deji sub-botting drama, which started in a similar fashion. Pat having knowledge of swats before the MPD processed them is also really fucking suspicious but, again, it's all circumstantial and the problem with Rick is that he is such a massive, bloviating liar, that it's impossible to tell when he's telling the truth, even if that truth betrays another lie. He's also pretty fat too, not sure if people are aware.
 
This guy offers swatting services for a fee and Pat just happens to be getting swatted 30+ times.
This guy then says Pat stiffed him $250 and proceeds to describe Pat down to a T. Who else benefits from swatting Pat? Who else is willing to pay $10,000 to do this? I know Pat is hateable but he's also a scheming retard.
So Pat's defense is "somebody impersonated me then asked Torswats to swat me". That'd be quite the clever move if it were the case, but again- Torswats charges money. 30+ swattings adds up to ~$10K I believe someone said. Who benefits from this occurring? Patrick does. Sure maybe the anon aTalker benefits too in the way of a few laughs, but who the fuck is gonna fork over $10K just to fuck with Pat when you can text him for free? For a fraction of the cost you could pay a local cracknigger to mug and stab Pat on his way home from Hoolies.

The debtor exam is coming up, let's hope any crypto activity on Pat's part is revealed. If so, that's even more circumstantial evidence that could lead to the pigs looking into this.

30 * 70 = 2100 and the swatter offered a discoutn for bulk attacks.
 
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For the hundredth time: Pat wasn’t acting when he lost his shit at the cops. He was genuinely and utterly enraged that they hadn’t performed exactly as he’d expected.

Not sure why this keeps having to be said but still I’m reading “He’s not that good an actor.” No shit, nobody is saying he was.
 
For the hundredth time: Pat wasn’t acting when he lost his shit at the cops. He was genuinely and utterly enraged that they hadn’t performed exactly as he’d expected.

Not sure why this keeps having to be said but still I’m reading “He’s not that good an actor.” No shit, nobody is saying he was.
This combined with the above about him asking about the address is another tip in favor that he did do it or at least anticipated it. But it was also that incident that he put on the news, right? So was he planning to move forward with the media regardless? I guess looking back he said "Those stalker childs in the MPD are in a lose-lose, if they got the wrong half-hovel I win on damages, but they actually got me and while my sleep was interrupted now it seems way more genuine."

Is this how it went? Probably not, but he's so fat that I can't figure his way of thinking, especially after being reminded of those fake as fuck voicemails where he tries to sound a little deeper voiced, yet still a lispy faggot.
 
But what about someone else? Initially, it may seem to make more sense to stiff Torswats, so that he ends up naming Patrick and humiliating him. But it's purely result-oriented thinking. You'd think it's obvious he would fall for it and expose him because that's what happened but is it actually the logical sequence of events? First you have to plan on Torswats actually agreeing to a scheme where you don't pay upfront, then you have to hope he actually bothers to look up the phone number to verify who it is (not even getting in to how you would get that number past 2FA without Pat, who responds to fucking everything, not noticing this), then you have to hope he buys it (worth noting that Torswats is, so he says, the person who brings up Pat's identity), then you have to plan on stiffing him.

And once you do this, you then have to hope that a person, who is incentivised to keep as low a profile as possible, would publicly call out the real Patrick and then you have to hope that anybody would take the word of someone who claims to be a swatter at face value (as we all know, nobody has ever pretended to be a superhackerswatter online for attention).

If the Vice article, which you could not have planned for, didn't write about Torswats, does anyone really think people would know about all this? Would anyone be snooping around their telegram to look for Pat? Would anyone even admit it if they did see it, given how they might be implicated? Surely you'd assume either they wanted to swat someone, or they were the person looking to frame Pat.

Here are some questions that furtehr complicate thigns:
Who actually stole the swatters old telegram account?
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Why would the swatter think pat stole it?

Who posted on the forum taking credit for the swats?
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Torswats also confirmed to ona user coonskin and another ona user that he swatted MTG and Steve Bannon on Patrick Tomlinson's oders.
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I'm less inclined to believe this. The guy is certainly in on patposting now and slapping him with those as well seems like a stretch. Swatting attacks tend to engender sympathy and Patrick seems to understand that, I don't think he'd do it to political enemies. But two-digit-tomlinson has surprised me before. We'll just have to see if we can get a crypto transaction history that lines up roughly with the swatting dates.
 
I'm less inclined to believe this. The guy is certainly in on patposting now and slapping him with those as well seems like a stretch. Swatting attacks tend to engender sympathy and Patrick seems to understand that, I don't think he'd do it to political enemies. But two-digit-tomlinson has surprised me before. We'll just have to see if we can get a crypto transaction history that lines up roughly with the swatting dates.
Pat was all over dropkiwifarms saying that this website was swatting him when kf was all over the news, its very possible he actually did it. Torswats did post the recordings so now its confirmed it was torswats and a torswats customer who framed altistic.
 
I'm less inclined to believe this. The guy is certainly in on patposting now and slapping him with those as well seems like a stretch. Swatting attacks tend to engender sympathy and Patrick seems to understand that, I don't think he'd do it to political enemies. But two-digit-tomlinson has surprised me before. We'll just have to see if we can get a crypto transaction history that lines up roughly with the swatting dates.
I agree in general but part of me still thinks it makes sense. Pats a drunk and drunks aren’t rational beings, especially at their worst. He’s done his catty faggot shit flinging at MTG on Twitter a lot, and he’s arrogant as fuck. If it’s true that he’s paid to swat himself, I can see him drunk as fuck on liquor and “power” and deciding he’s clever enough to escalate. As for why he’d blame our mod here, I don’t underestimate his ability to clout chase and ingratiate himself with the DKF crowd, he’s an opportunistic dick licker through and through. KF was big in mainstream articles while this happened and it’s possible he thought it would provide sufficient degrees of separation from implicating himself.

On a different note I browsed Ona while we were down and someone there posted a short video about pat and the Bernard Trammell case that was actually kinda compelling. It analyzed the selfie he took the day of the murder with his usually poofy hair flattened and disheveled, and the 23 degree angle of his bent back that seemed to match the killers on the bike. It also included the picture of Bernard pat took and posted to Twitter before he was killed. I couldn’t find it to link to when I went back to look for it, does anyone have that link? No shit I think pat seriously could have done it. Odd how his gun was “stolen” isn’t it?
 
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I'm less inclined to believe this. The guy is certainly in on patposting now and slapping him with those as well seems like a stretch. Swatting attacks tend to engender sympathy and Patrick seems to understand that, I don't think he'd do it to political enemies. But two-digit-tomlinson has surprised me before. We'll just have to see if we can get a crypto transaction history that lines up roughly with the swatting dates.
Something to think about: The swatters old personal account was named totalkanyevictory (or the person who stole it changed it to that). Im not sure if it originated here, but pretty sure ive seen the "total whoever victory" meme posted around here a lot. So its possible the swatter (or whoever stole their account) is familiar with certain kiwifarms injokes or injokes of related groups.
 
His threatening voicemails
But he doesn't even try to use a voice warper or change up his voice in these. All are the same voice, all sound just like him, and some of them are using details from the whole #canyonfacts saga.
I've never listened to these before but I think he was trying to change his voice. He's just never listened to a recording of his voice (or at least listened to recordings of himself attempting to put on a different voice as I'm sure he shows his spots on those tabloid-esque shows he does to anyone who will give him two minutes) to realize that the very mild change in tone he put on wasn't nearly enough to hide his voice. It definitely sounds like him to me

The way I'd describe is that it sounds like a different voice that is spoken through what is obviously the same throat. When you talk you don't really hear your throat like those around you do unless you've trained yourself to listen for it. You mostly hear your mouth filtered through the bones and meat of your skull so you tend to sound a lot smoother and bassier than you actually are to yourself which is why it's so miserable to listen to a recording of yourself
The people are mostly anon and he doesn't have a very big audience, AFAIK defamation in the US necessitates proving deliberate malice, falsehood, and concrete financial damage via reputation. It's a really high bar, don't think this crosses it.
You only need actual malice in the case of a (limited purpose) public figure. The bar for limited purpose public figure is really low but typically the claims would have to be related to what they're publicly speaking about. As far as concrete financial damage goes that's only true in the case of normal defamation. There's something known as defamation per se which applies to certain statements that are considered to be so harmful that damages are presumed and no longer require proof of the damage to make it to court. This applies to things like felonies, certain diseases (AIDS and STDs mostly), and certain behaviors (prostitution, infidelity, homosexuality, pedophilia, depends on the jurisdiction and homosexuality is mostly not considered to be per se defamatory anymore). This doesn't necessarily mean that they would win money if they sued as they'd still need to prove damages prior to a judgement being awarded but the actual bar for getting to that point is much, much lower
 
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