Why are women always liberal?

[Ser Prize]

Because the left gives them everything and anything they could want, just like non-Whites, just like non-heterosexuals, just like transsexuals and every other voting group they have. I can only assume you made this thread out of sexual frustration since you've posted a lot about how hard it is getting a date as a racist White man living in Canada.

Sexual frustration? Please, spare the psycho analysis. I made this thread because I've seen many very intelligent and on-point women on this site default to basic liberal principles when certain things are brought up. I just don't get how someone can be told about the harm certain things are causing and still advocate for them 'because it feels right'.

 

[Odd Opossum]

Sexual frustration? Please, spare the psycho analysis. I made this thread because I've seen many very intelligent and on-point women on this site default to basic liberal principles when certain things are brought up. I just don't get how someone can be told about the harm certain things are causing and still advocate for them 'because it feels right'.

Because they have something to gain from it like social approval, money and other privileges.

 

[Ser Prize]

Because they have something to gain from it like social approval, money and other privileges.

But what do they have to gain from being pro-gay on a podunk anonymous forum like this? Is the social approval feelsies that potent? It's baffling to me.

 

[Odd Opossum]

But what do they have to gain from being pro-gay on a podunk anonymous forum like this? Is the social approval feelsies that potent? It's baffling to me.

Being pro-gay is one of the easiest ways to get social approval in general, but this site has a sizable homosexual userbase.

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/lgbtqiwis.10358/

 

[870EVO]

Because they have something to gain from it like social approval, money and other privileges.

Maybe short term. But long term, no. We can see this with now Men and Women punching and threatening Women because they don't want Men in their Womens spaces. However, all the ideology they supported up until now, was leading to this. People tried to let them know, but the draw of immediate approval and benefits seemed to have been too strong.

 

[Rainbow Child]

The answer depends on where you are looking.

If you are at mass, there are plenty of conservative women, with their hair covered, wearing women's clothing, and either with a brood of children crawling over their pews or else positioning themselves to be noticed by the young men to give them that brood of children.

If you're at school or work on on the Internet, well you're not really dealing with real women. These are basically men in makeup in the sense that they're competing with you for your resources instead of completing you in harmony. But because they're weaker and less capable, they have to turn to sinister tricks to compete. And sinister is Latin for left. And left is liberal.

One of those leftist philosophers called it a coalition of polymorphous perversities, back in the day. The negroes, the women, the queers, anyone who doesn't want to respect the holy hierarchy of reality and instead wants to supplant it with revolution.

TLR, those aren't real women, bro. Go to Church.

 

[gang weeder]

But what do they have to gain from being pro-gay on a podunk anonymous forum like this? Is the social approval feelsies that potent? It's baffling to me.

Women are natural equity egalitarians or at least much more so than men. What I mean by this is women do not like hierarchies, they do not like for anyone to be better or worse than anyone else, they want everyone to be roughly the same in terms of status/wealth/whatever. I'm too lazy to find stoodies for you but it's not hard to figure out why this is from an evolutionary perspective. But I would theorize this is a potential reason why they are often sympathetic towards gays and such, so long as they are still buying into the "born gay" narrative (i.e. seeing faggotry as an identity and not a behavior).

Maybe short term. But long term, no. We can see this with now Men and Women punching and threatening Women because they don't want Men in their Womens spaces. However, all the ideology they supported up until now, was leading to this. People tried to let them know, but the draw of immediate approval and benefits seemed to have been too strong.

I mean most people will just do whatever alleviates anxiety in the short term, men and women alike. If people were properly geared for long term thought and planning a lot of things like people going bankrupt from debt wouldn't happen. But women are much higher in neuroticism/anxiety than men and also much more socially sensitive. So it's no surprise that they are even less capable of resisting social and political fads, even if those trends will be bad in the long run.

 

[870EVO]

I mean most people will just do whatever alleviates anxiety in the short term, men and women alike. If people were properly geared for long term thought and planning a lot of things like people going bankrupt from debt wouldn't happen. But women are much higher in neuroticism/anxiety than men and also much more socially sensitive. So it's no surprise that they are even less capable of resisting social and political fads, even if those trends will be bad in the long run.

Men tend to be disagreeable, and marketing research showed they are poor consumers.




Whats changed in the past say 50 years?




Women are now in control of the West. Not overtly, thats the realm of Men.

 

[870EVO]

Don't be exceptional. The correlation between women and emotionalism has been understood since the dawn of time.

It doesn't matter if you "Just know". This is the modern business world. These things have to researched, tracked, institutionalized, and then implemented.

 

[Spud]

Cause women are feels over reals and when women vote you get socialism. Remember, had it not been for the women voting, Hitler would have never gotten into power

 

[Zero Day Defense]

Why are the vast majority (90+%) of black men liberals? Why are the majority hispanic men liberals? Why are the majority of asian men liberals?

You misspelled "Democrat".

This point doesn't get emphasized enough. It's very rare for political issues to actually be divided among gender lines. Usually when an issue is considered "gender divisive" that means something like 40/60 vs 60/40. Even abortion, to the contrary of what leftist retards will claim, is pretty evenly split. Things like where you were born, religion, race, income, etc are all much stronger indicators of political beliefs than sex.

Hell, depending on your particular demographic, women are more conservative.
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As this chart demonstrates, it's shit skins that are the real problem as per usual.

Hey, you're doing it, too!

Non-white Americans tend to be more conservative (at least socially), but they'll vote Democrat more mainly out of a "lesser of two evils" mindset-- they often loathe the social liberalism of the Democrats, but some have this semi-hackneyed conception of the Republicans as evil racist Christo-Pharisees.

Many of them, especially in this age, also won't see themselves as strictly American, on account of not having much ideological motivation to do so-- the lot of them come here for economic opportunity and will still visit their countries of origin if they can, and there's not any pressure for them to consider themselves strictly American even though they renounce their origin country's citizenship by default when they naturalize in the States-- contrast with France, which is at least ostensibly more particular about this. They probably vote Democrat out of sympathy for those others who "struggle" to enter and be naturalized into this country (whether they're illegal immigrants or not).

The Democrats also construct their big tent through greedily accepting yet hyphenating Americans and accentuating their differences rather than insisting that they're all American-- Republicans fail to not other the naturalized compared to Democrats, even putting aside the burgeoning wignat factions that tend to align more with Republicans out of political necessity. That said, that Democrats talk favorably of social programs that many of these naturalized citizens rely or have relied on is certainly also a factor.

There's something to be said about this not ultimately mattering-- they're still voting for a party with a socially liberal agenda, giving them authorization to continue with the social ills they profess to have a diametric distaste for while not making any political action to counterbalance specifically those. Still, it's incorrect to straightforwardly conflate "liberal" with "Democrat"-- a lot of them are sociopolitical misfits that happen to align themselves with Democrats.

(Well... the children of immigrants tend to be straightforwardly liberal.)

(because society is much harsher on women who step out of line than it is with men as we've seen lately with the TERF wars)

You keep writing "society", but I keep seeing "women, mainly".

 

[whogoesthere]

You mean 'girls'. Us old birds see through the manipulation. Youngsters are drawn in by the need to be 'good', then we learn that we've been lied to and a 'good girl' is a goddamn useful idiot poised against society by family hating monsters.

The older I get the more people I'd have my men folk line against the wall.

ALL shitlib old women are just retards stuck in arrested development or aging BPD whores who've discovered their sex don't sell any more, but their useful idiot bullshit does. They can meet the wall too, granny faggots.

I really think I lot of young men have no fucking idea on the preasure for young girls to "be good" and "fit in".

There is a reason men find solitude easier and in many cases, preferable compared to women. As you say though, bit of age and getting out of the horny teens and 20s and both men and women tend to get a clue about the world.

 

[Polish Businessman]

They're not. They're just more conformist and risk-averse, so they will be more liberal in predominantly liberal environments, and more conservative in others.
There probably is some actual diffrerence in average worldviews (women care more about equality and harm prevention, less about freedom and abstract justice), but that was historically exploited by both left-wing and right-wing movements. For example, in the freshly independent Poland in the 1920s, it was the nationalist right that successfully pushed for women's suffrage, because women were more influenced by the Church, and less by socialist agitators in factories. In the 2010s I read a survey that 3/4 atheists in Poland (a generally religious country) were men. In general, the risk-aversity (which was perfectly reasonable for most women over the centuries!) will push women in the small-c conservative direction. Don't rock the boat, keep safe. That, in 2023, includes wokeness, because wokeness is not a liberal movement, it's just called 'liberal' due to genealogical reasons. It's just what every decent person does, just like every decent person praised the Pope in 1990s Poland, which unsurprisingly coincided with over 3/4 of atheists being men.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

Look at things like improving maternity leave, Pre-K or day care, school funding, food programs for kids and mothers--

--protecting trans girls who had consent accidents in girls' bathrooms, waiting for the right time to tell parents that you're educating children about gender identity in order to keep them safe, diversifying children's worldviews by allowing drag queens to read stories to them, stocking your library with confidently told bildungsromans like Gender Queer, and letting trans girls play girls' sports so they can be affirmed and play at their best.

I can see why women would take offense to conservatives wanting to cut the budgets for the institutions that perform these very valuable services.

And how could I forget having several high schools in districts where the students can't read at a fifth grade lev--

...I don't know how to spin that.

It's why the concept of a "trad wife"absolutely frightens the media.

It doesn't "frighten the media"-- "trad wives" are cut from the same cloth as the liberal women that decry them.

The controversy you're seeing is a catfight; the lifestyle of the "trad wife" may be ostensible, but even their appropriation of clichés and trite phrases are seen as an attack against the non-trad liberal woman and her decisions and allegiances-- and they usually explicitly are.

I really think I lot of young men have no fucking idea on the preasure for young girls to "be good" and "fit in".

It's trivially easy to understand on an intellectual level. After all, it's not as if men aren't under pressure to conform-- it's just that of those who choose not to, most will be men.

 

[Lemmingwiser]

Women are now in control of the West. Not overtly, thats the realm of Men.

They really aren't. Choosing what luxuries to spend money on is influence, not control.

Women don't decide policy, nor do "voters".

The direction things are moving, CBDC, vegetarianism, social credit scores, none of those are consumer driven developments. People are being propagandized toward these things. These are not popularly voted on, or driven by consumer choices (yet).

The relationship order is somewhat in the reverse compared to how you suggest.

Sexual frustration? Please, spare the psycho analysis. I made this thread because I've seen many very intelligent and on-point women on this site default to basic liberal principles when certain things are brought up. I just don't get how someone can be told about the harm certain things are causing and still advocate for them 'because it feels right'.

Speaking of sexual frustration, how do we know women's liberal tendencies aren't because of sexual frustration? After all married women are much likelier to vote right and much likelier to be sexually satisfied. The correlation at least is there.

And the voting for masses of migrants to immigrate en masse and welcoming them at the train station might well be an expression of that. Perhaps them being called rapefugee's is making them attractive to the hind brain of the dissatisfied women.

 

[Alligator Alcatraz]

Women only seem liberal because historically, they have been treated as non-participants in society. Everything women push for is inherently liberal as society is changing. It was only in the last 100 years or so that women have been allowed suffrage, human rights, and other equity to assist them in functioning as an individual in society alongside men. It's pretty safe to say that once boomers and gen xbdie off, the concept of men and women being restricted by sex would be exclusive to developing countries.

 

[The Ugly One]

It's this simple:

liberal = nice
conservative = mean

Every single issue where there's a gender divide, the side women take is the one that has been successfully framed in the public consciousness as "nice." It's why, for example, they take the side of trannies. The issue isn't framed as psychotic perverts wanting to make you participate in their fetish. It's protecting vulnerable people. It's giving access to people who are excluded. Every single issue, even...

And how could I forget having several high schools in districts where the students can't read at a fifth grade lev--

...I don't know how to spin that.

Why has this happened? Because giving kids failing grades is mean. Holding them back is mean. Discipline is mean. One could argue that it's a lot meaner to turn kids out into the world who can't read, but we had that argument decades ago, and we lost, because the crying negro whose mean teacher gave him an F won the women's hearts.

 

[Eggplant Wizard]

Cause women are feels over reals and when women vote you get socialism. Remember, had it not been for the women voting, Hitler would have never gotten into power

Don‘t make me tap the “Hitler was appointed“ sign.

 

[DeeDee Megadoodoo]

The big five personality model does indicate that women are a lot more agreeable on average compared to men, it's by birth.
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Which means that they are averse to confrontation. In sociology this translate to them usually being cooperative and agreeing with the mainstream culture (or what she think is the mainstream culture).

I think its worth pointing out that that doesn't mean they're less malicious than men-- they just do it a different way. A way that's perfectly suited to social media, as it turns out. They use character assassination, social exclusion, passive aggression, etc. "Gossip" is just female bullying.

 

[tygressofaera]

I think we know it's not ALL Women. We've seen the Women branded as TERFS. But it does seem the only Women pushing back on other Women publicly, are not the level headed kind. But the Radical Feminists who are only out there due to their combined hatred of Men, and Men in dresses is a cause they can rally around. And they aren't willing to critique larger LGBTQ+ / BLM / CRT / DEI / Radfem stuff. Because they still partly support it.

Even terfs are retarded, yeah. I don't have an explanation for any of it, really. I'm done with terf spaces specifically because they refuse to acknowledge the deadly BPD problem of women's spaces. Women's spaces that don't exclude BPD havers or BPD behavior will soon fail. So, terf spaces pretend that chronic fatigue is real and that racism is bad.

The women I know who don't buy into this crap are a mail order bride from the Phillipines, and a homeschooled fundamentalist baptist. Both of these women have gone to college and have the same "rights" as every other US woman. So I can only guess it's something gotten in western public schools.