Hollywood writers vote on strike: ‘At stake is the viability of TV as a career’


Hollywood writers vote on strike: ‘At stake is the viability of TV as a career’​

WGA union argues companies have ‘leveraged the streaming transition to underpay writers’

Michael Sainato
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Sat 15 Apr 2023 01.00 EDT


Hollywood writers have until Monday to authorize their union to call a strike amid contentious contract negotiations with major studios.
The authorization, based on a vote by guild members, would grant the leadership of the Writers Guild of America (WGA) the ability to call a strike if it can’t reach a contract with Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers (AMPTP) by 1 May.

“Writers are not keeping up,” the WGA argues in a 2023 report. “The companies have leveraged the streaming transition to underpay writers, creating more precarious, lower-paid models for writers’ work.”
In the report, the WGA, which has more than 11,000 members, argues the shift in the entertainment industry to streaming services has resulted in cuts to pay for writers, despite an increase in investments in content and consistent profitability.

“What’s at stake is the viability of television as a career,” said Brittani Nichols, a writer on Abbott Elementary and WGA member. “Right now a lot of people are struggling to string together quality jobs that can allow them to exist in a city like Los Angeles.”
Nichols compared the demands of members to those of other workers facing increasing pressures of economic inequality and rising costs of living.
“It’s not that the studios can’t afford these things. It’s, in my opinion, that they don’t care about what’s right or fair and they want to extract as much value from us for the least amount of money as possible, and that’s something we’re standing up to.”
The AMPTP represents entertainment media corporations that include Amazon, Apple, CBS, Disney, NBCUniversal, Netflix, Paramount Global, Sony and Warner Bros Discovery.
Since 2013-2014, the proportion of writers working at minimum pay levels has increased from 33% of all TV series writers to 49% in 2021-2022, with recorded increases in all writer positions, according to the report. Over the last decade, median writer pay has declined by 4%, or 23% when adjusted for inflation.
The WGA is calling for increased compensation and residuals from features, ending the practice of mini-rooms (smaller writing rooms where a showrunner and a limited group of writers develop scripts), and increases in contributions to pension and health funds for workers.
In a message to members, the WGA stated that the AMPTP had pushed for “rollbacks designed to offset any gains” in contract negotiations. “In short, the studios have shown no sign that they intend to address the problems our members are determined to fix.”
“The way that writers’ rooms work now, the way that we’re being paid, the way that we’re dealing with cuts in episode orders, all of that has slowly eroded our ability to make a living doing this,” said Susan Hurwitz Arneson, a writer in the industry for 15 years who has worked on shows such as AMC’s Preacher and the forthcoming John Wick prequel television series The Continental. “For a showrunner, it’s excruciating and impossible. For younger writers coming up, they’re never getting the mentoring and teaching to be showrunners because they are never allowed to be on set.”
Mini-rooms were originally meant to be supplementary support for a project but have been exploited as a loophole to pay minimum compensation to writers and avoid paying producer or showrunner fees for additional production duties, Hurwitz Arneson argued. She voted “yes” on the strike authorization, she said, in an effort to oppose trends she says are deteriorating pay and working conditions for writers.
“This is about people that create, from nothing, a product that everybody across the world enjoys, a product that makes billions of dollars for giant corporations. What we’re asking for is less than 2% of the dollar of what these companies are making, in order for us to benefit from our hard work and be paid fairly for it,” said Hurwitz Arneson. “We should be paid for the talent, hard work, the heart, the sweat, the tears and for the generation of worlds and products that employ thousands of people in this industry.”
The union has also taken aim at arguments by the studios of financial woes in the industry, as several entertainment media corporations have conducted layoffs in the past year; Disney announced cuts of 7,000 jobs that began this year, Netflix cut 450 jobs in 2022, citing decreases in subscription revenue, and about 120 workers were laid off at Showtime this year after a merger with Paramount.
Operating profits at the largest entertainment media companies in 2021 were about $28bn, a decrease from pre-pandemic profit levels, but the WGA cited continuing investments in streaming services, mergers and restructurings, and spending billions on stock buybacks.
CEOs of the largest entertainment media corporations receive exorbitant salaries. The Warner Discovery CEO, David Zaslav, received $39.3m in total compensation in 2022. The Netflix co-CEO Ted Sarandos received $40m, his co-CEO Reed Hastingsreceived $34m, and the Paramount Global CEO, Bob Bakish, received $32m.
The last time Hollywood writers went on strike was in November 2007, an action that lasted 100 days and halted production of major TV shows. The strike of 12,000 writers largely focused on disagreements with the AMPTP over emerging digital media platforms and streaming residuals. The Directors Guild of America and Screen Actors Guild will begin their new union contract negotiations this year with AMPTP.
The Actors’ Equity national council, which represents more than 51,000 professional theater workers, authorized a strike as new union contract negotiations with the Broadway League, the trade association for the Broadway industry, continue, with 90% signing a strike pledge if an agreement isn’t reached.
It is hard to predict which shows would be affected by a WGA strike, but during the 2007-2008 strike, top programs including Breaking Bad and Prison Break went on hiatus or had shortened seasons.

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Really guys? You think TV has been shit for the last decade?

Most shows are shit, some are fantastic.

Go watch some of the "best" shows from the 1980s and get back to me on how shit TV is nowadays.

FFS, they couldn't tell a complicated story because if you missed an episode, that ship sailed into the sunset, never to be seen again. "Twin Peaks" got cancelled because of this.

To wit, here are Rotten Tomatoes best shows from the 1980s:

Murder, She Wrote
ALF
Dynasty
Knight Rider
The A-Team
Three's Company
Moonlighting
21 Jump Street
Hill Street Blues
Family Ties
Saved by the Bell
MacGyver
Dallas
Miami Vice
SNL
Magnum, PI
The Golden Girls
The Cosby Show
Cheers

How many of these are people still watching in 2023?

Precious few.

How many of these got high ratings from people who remember the show as being good but they haven't seen it in ages so they can't accurately rank how it measures up to more recent stuff?

Virtually all of it.

I mean hell, I think X-Files is one of the best shows I've ever seen but the structure of the show feels very antiquated. Most of the episodes are stand-alone because the audience couldn't handle having to plan their lives around watching a TV show.

Now I can stream "Yellowjackets" and my fronds in other parts of the country can see it within the same couple days and we can catch up on it at both of our leisures.

It's a golden age.
You just demonstrated why these fools will fail. Streaming services are vast libraries of "content". So much so that nobody could ever watch it all. There is no actual value in the new stuff. It costs money to produce, while 40 year old seasons of Magnum PI were fully paid for 40 years ago. Netflix didn't get huge streaming new stuff. It got huge offering old familiar stuff whenever you wanted. Reruns of Friends eclipse every new show ever made for streaming.

These clowns will starve to death and nobody will know or care.
 
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Whatever will we do without these unimaginative assholes writing screenplays for mediocre TV shows and movies?
 
There's loads of good shows out there. Hell, there's loads of good writers out there. It's just that there is so much content - the 90% of everything is shit rule gets amplified that way.

Ordinarily I'd be in full support, because however badly you think of the writers in Hollywood, you know that the corporations are doing everything they can to not pay them. Hell, the last strikes were because every time a new technology comes along, the studios automatically treat it as a chance to not have to pay residuals unless forced to.

But one of their demands isn't about pay - it's about keeping writers rooms from shrinking. To me, that's instantly suspicious. The studios crying poor because they've had to fire people - they're still making insane profits so that's bullshit, but they're getting rid of dead weight. And if that dead weight is in a writers room, chances are it's like a lot of the dead weight being dropped right now - the DEI hires. The model of a writers room being large partly comes from the demands of doing around 22 episodes a season - a network tradition that is rapidly receding. Hell, look at lolcow Graham Linehan, writing UK sitcoms without a big writers room but with six-episode seasons.

So I'm always on board with demanding more money from a megacorp like the Hollywood studios, infamous for their biased accounting. But any demand that involves requiring a certain number of people must be hired regardless always sounds less like an unfairness issue and more like trying to keep the untalented on the payroll.
 
Really guys? You think TV has been shit for the last decade?

Most shows are shit, some are fantastic.

Go watch some of the "best" shows from the 1980s and get back to me on how shit TV is nowadays.

FFS, they couldn't tell a complicated story because if you missed an episode, that ship sailed into the sunset, never to be seen again. "Twin Peaks" got cancelled because of this.

To wit, here are Rotten Tomatoes best shows from the 1980s:

Murder, She Wrote
ALF
Dynasty
Knight Rider
The A-Team
Three's Company
Moonlighting
21 Jump Street
Hill Street Blues
Family Ties
Saved by the Bell
MacGyver
Dallas
Miami Vice
SNL
Magnum, PI
The Golden Girls
The Cosby Show
Cheers

How many of these are people still watching in 2023?

Precious few.

How many of these got high ratings from people who remember the show as being good but they haven't seen it in ages so they can't accurately rank how it measures up to more recent stuff?

Virtually all of it.

I mean hell, I think X-Files is one of the best shows I've ever seen but the structure of the show feels very antiquated. Most of the episodes are stand-alone because the audience couldn't handle having to plan their lives around watching a TV show.

Now I can stream "Yellowjackets" and my fronds in other parts of the country can see it within the same couple days and we can catch up on it at both of our leisures.

It's a golden age.
Agreed, looking at older TV, it's just more FUN.

Sure it was usually campy as shit, but it was fun, easy to watch, didn't preach at you and was easy to drop in an out of. Seriously, watching MASH, Magnum PI, Kojak, and Matlock reruns with my grandparents was much more fun than any Network TV show I've seen in the last decade.

Now most primetime trash is preachy, constantly badgers the audience about race, gender, insert other hot topic here and isn't FUN.

Also, the ridiculous forced diversity requirements are fucking annoying. No TV writers, most families aren't setup as a multigenerational, multiethnic, multi marriage unit of 10+ people all living in one house with a token gay thrown in for extra diversity. It's so goddamn on the nose it's almost a joke.

I will say that we HAVE gotten some gems on cable (Breaking Bad, 12 Monkey's, most of the HBO catalog) and a few network shows like Falling Skies were good but overall..... Older > newer.
 
There's loads of good shows out there. Hell, there's loads of good writers out there. It's just that there is so much content - the 90% of everything is shit rule gets amplified that way.

Ordinarily I'd be in full support, because however badly you think of the writers in Hollywood, you know that the corporations are doing everything they can to not pay them. Hell, the last strikes were because every time a new technology comes along, the studios automatically treat it as a chance to not have to pay residuals unless forced to.

But one of their demands isn't about pay - it's about keeping writers rooms from shrinking. To me, that's instantly suspicious. The studios crying poor because they've had to fire people - they're still making insane profits so that's bullshit, but they're getting rid of dead weight. And if that dead weight is in a writers room, chances are it's like a lot of the dead weight being dropped right now - the DEI hires. The model of a writers room being large partly comes from the demands of doing around 22 episodes a season - a network tradition that is rapidly receding. Hell, look at lolcow Graham Linehan, writing UK sitcoms without a big writers room but with six-episode seasons.

So I'm always on board with demanding more money from a megacorp like the Hollywood studios, infamous for their biased accounting. But any demand that involves requiring a certain number of people must be hired regardless always sounds less like an unfairness issue and more like trying to keep the untalented on the payroll.
The thing that will be interesting to see is what all of the White Male writers, who have been almost completely expelled from the industry in the past 5 years for being White and Male, will do? What reason do they have to give a shit about the WGA and its demands? They were thrown to the wolves based on their sex and skin color and their union did nothing. Even encouraged it. There's a lot of them out there. They could really use the work. Will they honor the strike? Or actually start getting their jobs back over the backs of the diversity hired Unionists?
 
There's loads of good shows out there. Hell, there's loads of good writers out there.
Gotta stop you there. I think most of the good TV writers are dead from old age. For the ones that were good from the 90's-00's, most of them drank some kind of retarded kool-aid and can no longer put out the good stuff like they used to. As for movies, every fucking sequel, reboot, etc. I've seen forever has been fucking awful, some of them in cases where a trained monkey could have come out with something competent, yet they still failed. I don't know why I should be concerned with losing people who can't do their fucking job in the first place.

But one of their demands isn't about pay - it's about keeping writers rooms from shrinking. To me, that's instantly suspicious. The studios crying poor because they've had to fire people - they're still making insane profits so that's bullshit, but they're getting rid of dead weight. And if that dead weight is in a writers room, chances are it's like a lot of the dead weight being dropped right now - the DEI hires. The model of a writers room being large partly comes from the demands of doing around 22 episodes a season - a network tradition that is rapidly receding. Hell, look at lolcow Graham Linehan, writing UK sitcoms without a big writers room but with six-episode seasons.

The idea of a writers room is farcical from the beginning. Art by committee is not a great process. How many great novels were written by a writer's room? This would be like complaining that focus groups could go away. Oh no!

So I'm always on board with demanding more money from a megacorp like the Hollywood studios, infamous for their biased accounting. But any demand that involves requiring a certain number of people must be hired regardless always sounds less like an unfairness issue and more like trying to keep the untalented on the payroll.

The megacorp and the writers both don't deserve anyone's money equally since they're both as awful and bad at their jobs and probably have absolute disdain for normal people not affiliated with show business.
 
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Western media is absolute trash. Notice how very few TV shows in the last decade are considered good/memorable even by a western audience. FFS Friends was still doing better numbers in streaming than most new shows.

Let them strike. Last time it happened we saw the birth of "reality TV" which was the final nail in the coffin of me losing interest. Haven't had cable in 15+ years, and haven't missed a thing.
 
As for movies, every fucking sequel, reboot, etc. I've seen forever has been fucking awful, some of them in cases where a trained monkey could have come out with something competent, yet they still failed.
I saw quite a few very good movies last year. To be fair, Top Gun Maverick was a sequel, Bullet Train was adapted from a graphic novel, and Bodies Bodies Bodies was a complete rewrite of an apparently trash short story. I think Smile was expanded from a short, and See How They Run is an Agatha Christie pastiche heavily based on The Mousetrap, but things like The Banshees of Inisherin and Everything Everywhere All At Once were both original ideas, as were smaller films like The Outfit and that Nic Cage movie where he plays himself that I never remember the name properly, something like The Overbearing Weight of Immense Talent.

I saw bad movies as well, and forgettable movies, and yes, a couple of sequels that made me mad at what they fucked up. But then, I enjoy stumbling over something surprisingly good; really, those seem to be the films people love more.

My favourite show is unscripted, so I'm not so up on TV. But I heard great things about shows like Severance, House of the Dragons, Yellowjackets and The White Lotus, to name a few from just the last one/two years. There's definitely a horrible trend of taking absolutely everything you've ever loved and wokifying it, though, and it's just tiring at this point, but fortunately even more than 90% of them seem to suck so I don't feel I'm missing out on anything, just vaguely sad about the zombie that was something I used to like running around. There's a few shows that a younger me would have been so enthusiastic about, and it's depressing to think about how much of a monkey's paw a lot of the most prominent TV shows are. It's like they're determined to bury everything you ever loved in Pet Sematary.

The idea of a writers room is farcical from the beginning.
It makes sense for me for sitcoms, because then it's essentially a group of people riffing and one-upping to get the best jokes into the structure. From what I understand, that's the exact sort of culture most hampered by forced diversity, because they are hiring specifically the people who inhibit comedy to try and write it. I don't think it's necessary for every show, but I can see the benefit for comedies the most.
 
Western media is absolute trash. Notice how very few TV shows in the last decade are considered good/memorable even by a western audience.
Let's look at the "best" shows from every other year since 2013:

2013 (first google hit):

Breaking Bad
House of Cards
Banshee
The Returned
Game of Thrones
The Americans
Borgen
Rectify
Vikings
Supernatural

2015 (first google hit):

Mr. Robot
Mad Men
Broad City
The Americans
Difficult People
Empire
Fargo
Veep
Better Call Saul
John Oliver

2017 (second google hit):

Twin Peaks
Big Little Lies
The Handmaid's Tale
The Good Place
The Leftovers
Master of None
The Deuce
The Vietnam War
The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel
At Home With Amy Sedaris
(Mindhunter came in at #12 and was robbed)

2019 (first google hit):

Watchmen
Fleabag
Succession
Russian Doll
Fosse/Verdon
Lodge 49
Barry
Better Things
Mr. Robot
David Makes Man

2021 (first google hit):

For All Mankind
Reservation Dogs
Only Murders in the Building
The Underground Railroad
Station 11
It's a Sin
Succession
Maid
The White Lotus
WandaVision

This is a fraction of what's come out in the last 10 years. I can think of a dozen pretty good shows not on any of these lists.

I'd rather sit through a whole season of the #15 show from any of the last 10 years than a whole season of one of the top 10 shows from the entire decade of the 1980s.

Tell me you really want to watch 22 episodes of "Knight Rider" over "Squid Game" or "The Crown."

I just have to question what y'all's expectation is for TV if you think every one of these shows is not just not to your personal taste but is unequivocally utter shit.
 
Let's look at the "best" shows from every other year since 2013:

2013 (first google hit):

Breaking Bad
House of Cards
Banshee
The Returned
Game of Thrones
The Americans
Borgen
Rectify
Vikings
Supernatural

2015 (first google hit):

Mr. Robot
Mad Men
Broad City
The Americans
Difficult People
Empire
Fargo
Veep
Better Call Saul
John Oliver

2017 (second google hit):

Twin Peaks
Big Little Lies
The Handmaid's Tale
The Good Place
The Leftovers
Master of None
The Deuce
The Vietnam War
The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel
At Home With Amy Sedaris
(Mindhunter came in at #12 and was robbed)

2019 (first google hit):

Watchmen
Fleabag
Succession
Russian Doll
Fosse/Verdon
Lodge 49
Barry
Better Things
Mr. Robot
David Makes Man

2021 (first google hit):

For All Mankind
Reservation Dogs
Only Murders in the Building
The Underground Railroad
Station 11
It's a Sin
Succession
Maid
The White Lotus
WandaVision

This is a fraction of what's come out in the last 10 years. I can think of a dozen pretty good shows not on any of these lists.

I'd rather sit through a whole season of the #15 show from any of the last 10 years than a whole season of one of the top 10 shows from the entire decade of the 1980s.

Tell me you really want to watch 22 episodes of "Knight Rider" over "Squid Game" or "The Crown."

I just have to question what y'all's expectation is for TV if you think every one of these shows is not just not to your personal taste but is unequivocally utter shit.
Damned right I'd rather watch Knight Rider over Watchmen or Fleabag, I'd rather take a rusty cheese-grater to my ballsack than watch 3/4s of the shit you just listed. Hell, just looking at what you've listed shows the decline of quality, with 2013 loaded with really great shows, and then the only thing in 2019 or 2021 worth watching being For All Mankind and even the latest season of that wasn't particularly good.
 
I don't know how everyone here thinks the film industry works, but writers aren't the ones responsible for the 'woke' media stuff.

The last strike gave us reality television, lowered-standards across the board, and killed a whole array of legitimately interesting projects that never saw the light of day afterwards. I don't really want to find out what the next one gives us.
 
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